I love these discussions! I think it would be super helpful in the ski comparison videos if they were ordered with intended function. Seeing the Mid 80 ski comparison video ordered from carviest to versatile would be very helpful.
Deacon 84 is my favorite ski ever. The category discussion; i agree it is not an all mountain really but an everyday carver from hard to soft groomed snow. I don’t take my slalom ski anymore. I skied it in 14 inches and they worked fine but it was not the best tool for the job, they are a bit too stiff in the tip for that. I feel the 84-85 carving ski are the best category for progressing in carving in a lot of condition. Tried a Kendo last week and find a lot of that carving performance was there also. Buying now i would really be puzzled between Deacon/perigrine and the Kendo 88. Only one ski the Kendo would be my choice….i was not expecting this.
We always find it interesting when a ski like the Kendo can cross over to the front side/carving realm while also holding an all-mountain character. Surely, for a lot of resorts, Peregrine will hold up and be a true all-mountain ski, but it just seems narrow to be living outside the front side realm to me.
@@SkiEssentials i think they should have kept the 4-5 mm gap between the two skis. I am sure the 82 works great but for me 84-85 works better in softer groomed snow. I am a fan of Volkl skis the last 6 years ( never bought one before) now owns 3 🤪. Never say never. I am not sold on any brand. I ski what works better at the time, Volkl happens to suits my style at the moment.
Oh boy guys. I am a technical skier and have been following your videos on the Arcade and now this Peregrine! I am sold on the Peregrine 82 over the Arcade just from your great review and interpretations. I am excited. I’m 6’ , 175 lbs love to let the skis run on gs turns and then throw short radius on the sides of the runs. I ski out west. Ex Level 2 instructor and racer from decades ago. What length would you recommend. I skied 165 on a RC4 SC this season. Could have gone a bit longer but the ski held well and was damp. Last year I was on a RC4 CT in a 175 and for that ski it was a bit long so I would ski mostly centered as I could not really get to drive the front end. My play ski is Ranger 115 FR! Thanks guys!
Based on your stats and application, not to mention the preferences you mentioned, I think the 172 is a good choice. Seems to be in the middle of what you've been on and I think fits both your height, weight, and turn style.
Great film. Since I only ski for one or two weeks a year, it takes me a while to change skis. But only go for Volkl. Used to have Volkl All Stars then RTM84s. Now have the Deacon 84s. Probably can’t afford to buy these for the next few years…by which time, there’ll be a new design! Thanks again. 👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@joehasenauer1288 The Peregrine 80, most notably, is more skiable than the Kendo, especially on smoother terrain. The 82 is just a notch above in terms of grip and power, but still slightly easier to turn than the Kendo.
as a 1 quiver skier in european resorts I have loved Deacon 74s - are these a worthy successor, for pistes which start off perfect corduroy and end the day with sometimes slushpuppy moguls?
The Peregrine 72 or 76 will be more similar to the Deacon 74. These 80's and 82's don't quite have the same race-like build as the narrower skis in the line, but definitely increase the all-mountain capabilities and versatility.
Outstanding work as always Jeff & Bob! Would it be way off base to say the Peregrine 80 & 82 are similar to Blizzard’s Thunderbird R15WB & Brahma 82? Your reviews on all of the above suggest that to a degree. Cheers!
I think the Peregrine 82 feels less like a race ski than the Thunderbird, and none of them quite feel like the burlier Brahma 82 in terms of stability at speed. The 80 is even another outlier here, as it makes a different style of turn--shorter and more skidded when pushed, and cleaner/rounder when used a bit more gently. I didn't find the 80 had the high gear that the other skis on this list have.
I’d like to hear more thoughts on the comparison of the Peregrine 82 and the Blizzard Anomaly 84. I’d like a ski in that waist width range for the northeast. I’ve purchased the Rustler 9 (180) from you guys which I really enjoy and do wonder what your opinion might be about the Peregrine 82 and the Anomaly 84 complementing the Rustler 9 (or other similarly width waisted skis). Thanks!
This is a nice comparison because I think both of these skis do certain things really well. The Peregrine is quite a bit smoother and easier to turn, but it doesn't have the higher end of the Anomaly, especially when it comes to more off-piste and adventurous skiing. The Peregrine is a lot happier on-trail and in a groomed format. The Anomaly feels better prepared to take on true all-mountain conditions and terrain. It borrows shaping in the shovel, especially, from the Rustler series, so it does have that twist of versatility to it that the Peregrine doesn't really contain.
As an east coast skier, im leaning towards the 82s from your description purely for the grip. Not sure if that's a good plan or not. My skiing style is quick short turns on very icy slopes with icy bumps mixed in. I don't want a fast ski though. My speed days are over. And when I say ice I mean a solid sheet of ice not this supposed groomed ice I see vidoes on.
Yeah, especially the Peregrine 82. The Volkl just isn't quite as high octane as the Disruption, but it's way easier to manage and I think it's surprisingly versatile with the flatter profile.
Another northeast skier here. I've been skiing on a set of 2019 Volkl RTM 84s, but I'm considering getting something a little newer. Should I understand that the Deacon 84s replaced the RTM 84s, and so these Peregrine 82s are sort of the direct lineage replacement? Given the ski conditions we see around here and that I focus mainly on carving groomers, I might enjoy the Peregrine 82 more than the Deacon 84s, since it sounds like the Deacon 84s are more like my RTM 84s.
Yes, that's the continuation of the line. Even the RTM 84 had a few different iterations, moving from 3D spine and full rocker back to more of a rail style with more material on the sides--we love how these skis go back and forth between what's best! I'd say the new Peregrine is a lot like the older RTM's with the central spine but way more smooth.
Hi guys, really nice comparison! I am about to buy my first pair of skis. I would say that I am an advanced skier and relatively good technically. So far I have been skiing allmountain skis from atomic with a medium width of 80mm and a length about 175. I would like to develop my carving skills, have a versatile ski for the whole day that is lively and shines especially in the medium to wide radii, but also try out the short turns. I am 187cm (6"14) and 95kg (210lbs), which of the two peregrines would you rather advise me to improve, and in which length? thanks in advance :)
I find the 80 to be livelier and more energetic while the 82 is more powerful and demanding. If short turns and medium radius arcs are where you like to be, I think the 80 has a lot to offer. I'd go 182 in the 80 here.
@@on_philm The V10 is considerably happier in short to medium radius carves while the Peregrine is far more versatile in terms of turn shape and style. Many skiers use the skid style of turn more often than they think, and that's a lot easier on the Volkl--the Head wants to be perfectly on edge all the time. I find the Peregrine to be a more composed ski in various conditions and terrain, despite being 5 mm narrower underfoot.
@@SkiEssentials thank you!! I really appreciate the feedback. The Peregrine is definitely on my list to test out. Last question ^^ what do you think about Nordica's Steadfast 85 compared to the Peregrine?
@@on_philm I'd take a Steadfast personally as I find it a exceptional ski in this range. It makes very clean, round turns and has smoothness to spare. The Peregrine feels very techy, and that's great and works well for a lot of skiers, but I like the more traditional and round feel of the Steadfast a whole lot. Steadfast is not as quick or agile--that's the balance.
Talking about whether it's a frontside or all mountain, at around 20:04 Bob talks about alot of ppl that would call 82 way to wide for a front side carver! Those people obviously skipped past or ignored the AWESOME Advertisement at the beginning of this video. watch the add, then look a real skier in the eye and tell them this is too wide to carve!!!! Cheers. Its sounds like it may have good all mountain qualities and may not be confined to the front side, But pretty sure it's not giving anything up to a narrower ski on the cord.
We seem to be having this discussion more and more as our audience becomes more international. There seems to be a pretty big gap between what an on-piste ski in the alps vs. one in Colorado. While I've never skied in Europe, from what I gather, you're either firmly on-piste or totally in the backcountry, leaving our popular 88-92 mm skis kind of in a smaller usage zone. The piste skis seem to be from 65 to 75 mm underfoot and are very race/technical oriented, and the other skis are wider touring options. Here in Vermont, something that's 82 mm underfoot feels very appropriate for groomers, and since the trails aren't always perfect, and there's other things to do, it also has versatile notes. Most skiers, though, seem happier in that 88-92 range as they carve just fine and handle adverse conditions and terrain competently as well.
I tried the peregrines 80 and found them to be very smooth and stable but they lacked pop and rebound. I normally ski Blizzard Thunderbird R13’s and would like to add skis that can handle mixed conditions but still offer solid carving ability and rebound. Any suggestions?
Just completed by first season of skiing after switching from snowboarding. I would say I picked it up rather quickly, I am comfortable with parallel turns and working on carving. I am 42yo 6ft, 200lps athletic build. I would like to purchase my first pair of skis best for on piste skiing in New Mexico and Colorado, that can handle fresh snow and crud in the afternoon, are easy to turn, stable at moderate speeds up to 45mph, that would allow me to continue to progress and work on my turning technique and carving. I think I narrowed down my list to these skis: Peregrine 80, Stance 80 or 84, Anomaly 84, and Kanjo 84. Could you please help me pick ones that would fit my criteria and what length would fit me best, or are there any other ones outside of my list that you would recommend.
I think if you're used to sliding on snow and have some athleticism, you can go with a sturdier ski. I think that puts the Anomaly 84 and the Peregrine 82 at the top of your list. You might out ski the 80 sooner rather than later, probably worth a bump to the sturdier 82. The Anomaly is the most stable and high-performance as well as the most versatile. If you spend more time on-trail and in a carved turn, the Peregrine aligns more with that application.
What is more appropriate for an intermediate skier: Peregrine 82, Montero AX or Anomaly 84? Is Peregrine 82 good for an intermediate skier hoping to progress? It should allow skidding turns and mistakes. I live in European alps, so it should handle ice to slush (with bumps) snow conditions during the same day, but mostly on piste (for powder I will take snowboard). I am a snowboarder moving (partially) to ski, now doing about 10-15 days skiing and 10 days snowboarding per season, will be the 3rd season on ski. Thanks!
I'd go with the Montero AX due to the slightly more flexible shovel. The other skis are on the stiffer side overall and may not provide the latitude you're looking for when it comes to mistakes. Also, they're incredibly smooth and awesome skis overall.
Thanks for the answer! Do you think that the new Montero AX 2025 would be much better than 2024 for an intermediate skier (i guess it will have a bit more flexible tips and tails)? I think there is a discount for 2024 model, but is it worth paying extra for the new model?
@@nikolaytsyganov1452 I don't think it makes much of a difference--both are amazing skis. The flex gets a bit more available when it comes to slower and more moderate speeds, so yes I do think there's a benefit for an intermediate, but maybe not worth the extra money.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! Spoken to the Stockli rep in their shop, she said there is a difference, but not everyone could even feel it as it's quite minor, at least according to her experience on testing 2025 models. So she recommended taking a discount :). Thanks for quick answers and great reviews!
The 82 feels more like the AX than the 80 in terms of build, I don't think the shape is as much of a big difference. I skied the AX yesterday and it was amazing how well it handled variable snow conditions and terrain. The groomer performance of the Stockli is a lot smoother, but not necessarily higher end.
I was planning to replace my Salomon S/Force 11 with Deacon 80/84 this year. Now I look at Peregrine 82 as most suiting my needs- stability at higher speeds and medium to long turns are my prorities. I ski 100% on-piste in European Alps. Do you think it’s worth waiting for Peregrine as it seems to be a good choice? Or just stick with 2024 Deacons? Could You advice me on sizing (172/177) ? I’m 180cm (5’11) / 95kg (208lbs). My Salomon skis felt just perfect at 177cm.
We say this a lot when new skis come out--it's not like the Deacon 84 is all of a sudden a bad ski. There are a lot of similarities here for sure, and comfort at long and medium turns definitely carries through. I think if you want to get a better deal on a great set of skis, go for the Deacon 84. I'd say the 177 if that's what you're used to will be just fine.
Retired my old AC3s due to the bindings, I am about to pull the trigger on a pair of Deacon 84s on sale (30% off) to replace. Am I going to have FOMO by not getting the Peregrine 82s or is the 84s still a good ice coast ski?
@@SkiEssentials Thanks as always for your honest feedback. You guys (and gals) are a great resource. Was a pleasure meeting you at the Boston Ski Show last fall! I look forward to your review and insight!
I'm currently skiing on Dynastar Outland Pro 80 , just been lucky enough to do a Volkl factory tour and am tempted by the Peregrine 82, or should I stay at 80 and are they a good replacement for them? Sorry about all teh questions, I'm a European skier. Great review thank you
The 80, with the fiberglass rather than titanal frame of the 82, is more peppy and energetic while the 82 is smoother, stiffer, and a bit more demanding. Personally, I like the quickness and agility of the 80 as it allows for excellent bump skiing as well as being more amenable to shorter and mid-radius carves which I prefer.
You might answer this question in this video but I am going to ask before I forget.. I just got done watching a review on the Montero AR.. How do these skis compare to the AR and AX? A side question that you can answer or not.. I know Jeff likes to compare VW and Audi.. I am going to compare Good Year to Cooper tires.. Do you have any idea about the rubber dust? Is it soft and can handle high speeds like Good Year or is it hard and loud and slippery like Cooper tires? I imagine there are probably some good analogies with Volkl but I can't think of any right now...
The 82 and the AX share a bit more than the AR and the 82. The 80 doesn't really have a Stockli vibe to it--need the metal of the 82. The AR still wants to track straighter and faster and just feels more substantial on the feet while the AX has the nimbleness of the 82 and the turn versatility.
sry for my bad english. i will buy me a new ski and may favourite was the deacon 84. now i have seen ur test with the peregrine, but i couldn´t understood, whats the difference between the deacon 84 and the peregrine is. my skills are 7, if u have a scale between 1-10 and my preference is to ski on a piste. do u have a recommendation for me, which one i can by? thank you
I'd get the Deacon 84, mainly because it's a better deal right now. The performance level is very similar, although the Peregrine feels smoother and more composed but not necessarily higher performance.
With the Blaze series Volkl definitely designed wood core non metal laminate skis that are in the All Mountain category. They are described as more approachable ( easier) to ski than models like the Kendo, Mantra skis. Also Blaze models start at 82, 86, 94, 106 and 114 . The 94, 106 and new 114 are very versatile off piste skis. The 82 and 86 are more versatile all mountain recreational models that are relatively easy to ski. That Peregrine 82 is definitely designed to be driven at higher speeds and higher edge angles than the Blaze models. 👍🙏⛷
The Blaze, specifically the width-comparable 82, is a lighter, more versatile ski that's mainly designed for softer snow and easy turning. There's also a touring component with the Blaze, as they are efficient climbers when paired with the proper tech binding and boot combos. The on-trail performance is vastly different, as the Peregrine is a strong and stable ski that operates well on firm snow and at higher speeds.
I have waiting for this Review...I am looking for another ski. Actually i have a rossignol forza 60. And my question is, is the peregrine 80 or 82 a better choice? Or are they quite similar to the forza? My other choice is the nordica steadfast 85. As a good all day ski for mostly spend my time on groomers. Thanks for the great Videos... Best regards Olli
The 80 is more similar to the Forza 60, but the Steadfast is right there as well when it comes to short, round, and clean arcs. I do think the 82 offers a bit more in terms of firm snow performance as it has a pretty steady edge grip to it on ice. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the Steadfast 85.
Why would you trade in the Forza60? I have this ski as well and it’s such a nice carver. Skied it in less than ideal conditions (crud, very soft snow, fresh snow) and it powers through it without any problems. And boy, does it like to turn! The 60 is really versatile, as long as you stay on the groomers.
I am looking to purchase my first pair of skis and need some help. I live on the east coast so I would need a pair of skis that can handle groomed hard packed snow and I want to get into the park aswell. I was looking at the Faction Prodigy 2, Bent 100, and the Armada Arv 100. Any recommendations?
Im just an internet dipshit but i would go for something in the 90s. I always feel my edging capabilities especially on ice get considerably worse with wider skis. Im also starting to get into a bit of park/terrain and dont feel im missing too much on my 92's.
For eastern skiing, I do think the narrower versions of these skis make more sense, so the Prodigy 1, Bent 90, and ARV 94 might fit in better with what you're looking to do. Between those, the ARV has a nice mix of on and off trail characteristics while I do find the Bent and the Faction to fall on the flexible side of the spectrum for groomers and firmer snow.
The Anomaly is the higher horsepower ski of the group with the Peregrine just behind, but it's not as versatile as the Anomaly is either. Steadfast prefers more moderate speeds and turn shapes, but in this realm, it's one of the more engaging skis I've been on these past two years. If you're looking for fantastic groomer and all-mountain performance, go with the Anomaly. If you're on-piste most/all of the time and like the precise and smooth feel of a pure front side ski, the Peregrine is fantastic.
The V.Werks is lighter and more snappy--kind of how I feel about the Deacon 80. The 82 is dense and smooth--more so than the V.Werks, but the V.Werks has that light/precise feel to it that is tough to duplicate.
@@SkiEssentials I'm glad someone asked this question! So I'm assuming the Deacon V.Werks is being retired and replaced with these skis as well? I think I'd like to pick up a set of the V.Werks if it's being retiring and will be discounted!
The 82 as a skibum race ski. Great description. Love the non-float example of the 82... "perfect!"
Gotta put them through all the paces!
Oh boy! can't wait for the 2025 Mantra Collection review now!
We're working on the M7 for sure, but the rest of the collection returns structurally unchanged.
I love these discussions! I think it would be super helpful in the ski comparison videos if they were ordered with intended function. Seeing the Mid 80 ski comparison video ordered from carviest to versatile would be very helpful.
We do this! It kind of depends on our mood at the time. Sometimes it's slarvy to carvy, other times it's price, and sometimes it's alphabetical!
I have skiing the Peregrine82 for a while now, it's amazing how good it is. Really impressed by it
Nice! It's so smooth!
@@SkiEssentials ... and sharp
Deacon 84 is my favorite ski ever. The category discussion; i agree it is not an all mountain really but an everyday carver from hard to soft groomed snow. I don’t take my slalom ski anymore. I skied it in 14 inches and they worked fine but it was not the best tool for the job, they are a bit too stiff in the tip for that. I feel the 84-85 carving ski are the best category for progressing in carving in a lot of condition. Tried a Kendo last week and find a lot of that carving performance was there also. Buying now i would really be puzzled between Deacon/perigrine and the Kendo 88. Only one ski the Kendo would be my choice….i was not expecting this.
We always find it interesting when a ski like the Kendo can cross over to the front side/carving realm while also holding an all-mountain character. Surely, for a lot of resorts, Peregrine will hold up and be a true all-mountain ski, but it just seems narrow to be living outside the front side realm to me.
@@SkiEssentials i think they should have kept the 4-5 mm gap between the two skis. I am sure the 82 works great but for me 84-85 works better in softer groomed snow. I am a fan of Volkl skis the last 6 years ( never bought one before) now owns 3 🤪. Never say never. I am not sold on any brand. I ski what works better at the time, Volkl happens to suits my style at the moment.
Oh boy guys. I am a technical skier and have been following your videos on the Arcade and now this Peregrine! I am sold on the Peregrine 82 over the Arcade just from your great review and interpretations. I am excited. I’m 6’ , 175 lbs love to let the skis run on gs turns and then throw short radius on the sides of the runs. I ski out west. Ex Level 2 instructor and racer from decades ago. What length would you recommend. I skied 165 on a RC4 SC this season. Could have gone a bit longer but the ski held well and was damp. Last year I was on a RC4 CT in a 175 and for that ski it was a bit long so I would ski mostly centered as I could not really get to drive the front end. My play ski is Ranger 115 FR! Thanks guys!
Based on your stats and application, not to mention the preferences you mentioned, I think the 172 is a good choice. Seems to be in the middle of what you've been on and I think fits both your height, weight, and turn style.
Sounds right. Thanks guys!
Great film. Since I only ski for one or two weeks a year, it takes me a while to change skis. But only go for Volkl. Used to have Volkl All Stars then RTM84s. Now have the Deacon 84s. Probably can’t afford to buy these for the next few years…by which time, there’ll be a new design! Thanks again. 👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Ha! It seems to go like that, doesn't it.
Does the Peregrine equate to the Kendo in skiability?
@@joehasenauer1288 The Peregrine 80, most notably, is more skiable than the Kendo, especially on smoother terrain. The 82 is just a notch above in terms of grip and power, but still slightly easier to turn than the Kendo.
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as a 1 quiver skier in european resorts I have loved Deacon 74s - are these a worthy successor, for pistes which start off perfect corduroy and end the day with sometimes slushpuppy moguls?
The Peregrine 72 or 76 will be more similar to the Deacon 74. These 80's and 82's don't quite have the same race-like build as the narrower skis in the line, but definitely increase the all-mountain capabilities and versatility.
Outstanding work as always Jeff & Bob! Would it be way off base to say the Peregrine 80 & 82 are similar to Blizzard’s Thunderbird R15WB & Brahma 82? Your reviews on all of the above suggest that to a degree. Cheers!
I think the Peregrine 82 feels less like a race ski than the Thunderbird, and none of them quite feel like the burlier Brahma 82 in terms of stability at speed. The 80 is even another outlier here, as it makes a different style of turn--shorter and more skidded when pushed, and cleaner/rounder when used a bit more gently. I didn't find the 80 had the high gear that the other skis on this list have.
I’d like to hear more thoughts on the comparison of the Peregrine 82 and the Blizzard Anomaly 84. I’d like a ski in that waist width range for the northeast. I’ve purchased the Rustler 9 (180) from you guys which I really enjoy and do wonder what your opinion might be about the Peregrine 82 and the Anomaly 84 complementing the Rustler 9 (or other similarly width waisted skis). Thanks!
This is a nice comparison because I think both of these skis do certain things really well. The Peregrine is quite a bit smoother and easier to turn, but it doesn't have the higher end of the Anomaly, especially when it comes to more off-piste and adventurous skiing. The Peregrine is a lot happier on-trail and in a groomed format. The Anomaly feels better prepared to take on true all-mountain conditions and terrain. It borrows shaping in the shovel, especially, from the Rustler series, so it does have that twist of versatility to it that the Peregrine doesn't really contain.
Thanks!
As an east coast skier, im leaning towards the 82s from your description purely for the grip. Not sure if that's a good plan or not. My skiing style is quick short turns on very icy slopes with icy bumps mixed in. I don't want a fast ski though. My speed days are over. And when I say ice I mean a solid sheet of ice not this supposed groomed ice I see vidoes on.
I'd say you're in the right place with the 82. Go shorter if you feel like you're maxxed out on speed.
Sounds like a flatter disruption 82ti from a build pov. Not the same league of a ski obviously, but curious how you found they compared?
Yeah, especially the Peregrine 82. The Volkl just isn't quite as high octane as the Disruption, but it's way easier to manage and I think it's surprisingly versatile with the flatter profile.
Another northeast skier here. I've been skiing on a set of 2019 Volkl RTM 84s, but I'm considering getting something a little newer. Should I understand that the Deacon 84s replaced the RTM 84s, and so these Peregrine 82s are sort of the direct lineage replacement?
Given the ski conditions we see around here and that I focus mainly on carving groomers, I might enjoy the Peregrine 82 more than the Deacon 84s, since it sounds like the Deacon 84s are more like my RTM 84s.
Yes, that's the continuation of the line. Even the RTM 84 had a few different iterations, moving from 3D spine and full rocker back to more of a rail style with more material on the sides--we love how these skis go back and forth between what's best! I'd say the new Peregrine is a lot like the older RTM's with the central spine but way more smooth.
I weigh 250 im on 182 Kendall 84 does that sound like the right ski
Hi guys, really nice comparison!
I am about to buy my first pair of skis. I would say that I am an advanced skier and relatively good technically. So far I have been skiing allmountain skis from atomic with a medium width of 80mm and a length about 175. I would like to develop my carving skills, have a versatile ski for the whole day that is lively and shines especially in the medium to wide radii, but also try out the short turns. I am 187cm (6"14) and 95kg (210lbs), which of the two peregrines would you rather advise me to improve, and in which length?
thanks in advance :)
I find the 80 to be livelier and more energetic while the 82 is more powerful and demanding. If short turns and medium radius arcs are where you like to be, I think the 80 has a lot to offer. I'd go 182 in the 80 here.
@@SkiEssentials how would you compare the peregrine 80 against a head shape v10?
@@on_philm The V10 is considerably happier in short to medium radius carves while the Peregrine is far more versatile in terms of turn shape and style. Many skiers use the skid style of turn more often than they think, and that's a lot easier on the Volkl--the Head wants to be perfectly on edge all the time. I find the Peregrine to be a more composed ski in various conditions and terrain, despite being 5 mm narrower underfoot.
@@SkiEssentials thank you!! I really appreciate the feedback. The Peregrine is definitely on my list to test out. Last question ^^ what do you think about Nordica's Steadfast 85 compared to the Peregrine?
@@on_philm I'd take a Steadfast personally as I find it a exceptional ski in this range. It makes very clean, round turns and has smoothness to spare. The Peregrine feels very techy, and that's great and works well for a lot of skiers, but I like the more traditional and round feel of the Steadfast a whole lot. Steadfast is not as quick or agile--that's the balance.
Terrific video
Thank you!
Talking about whether it's a frontside or all mountain, at around 20:04 Bob talks about alot of ppl that would call 82 way to wide for a front side carver! Those people obviously skipped past or ignored the AWESOME Advertisement at the beginning of this video. watch the add, then look a real skier in the eye and tell them this is too wide to carve!!!! Cheers. Its sounds like it may have good all mountain qualities and may not be confined to the front side, But pretty sure it's not giving anything up to a narrower ski on the cord.
We seem to be having this discussion more and more as our audience becomes more international. There seems to be a pretty big gap between what an on-piste ski in the alps vs. one in Colorado. While I've never skied in Europe, from what I gather, you're either firmly on-piste or totally in the backcountry, leaving our popular 88-92 mm skis kind of in a smaller usage zone. The piste skis seem to be from 65 to 75 mm underfoot and are very race/technical oriented, and the other skis are wider touring options. Here in Vermont, something that's 82 mm underfoot feels very appropriate for groomers, and since the trails aren't always perfect, and there's other things to do, it also has versatile notes. Most skiers, though, seem happier in that 88-92 range as they carve just fine and handle adverse conditions and terrain competently as well.
I tried the peregrines 80 and found them to be very smooth and stable but they lacked pop and rebound. I normally ski Blizzard Thunderbird R13’s and would like to add skis that can handle mixed conditions but still offer solid carving ability and rebound. Any suggestions?
In the 80ish range, definitely check out the Stockli Montero AX, and also the Nordica Spitfire 80. A bit more pep with these skis vs. the Peregrine.
Just completed by first season of skiing after switching from snowboarding. I would say I picked it up rather quickly, I am comfortable with parallel turns and working on carving. I am 42yo 6ft, 200lps athletic build. I would like to purchase my first pair of skis best for on piste skiing in New Mexico and Colorado, that can handle fresh snow and crud in the afternoon, are easy to turn, stable at moderate speeds up to 45mph, that would allow me to continue to progress and work on my turning technique and carving. I think I narrowed down my list to these skis: Peregrine 80, Stance 80 or 84, Anomaly 84, and Kanjo 84. Could you please help me pick ones that would fit my criteria and what length would fit me best, or are there any other ones outside of my list that you would recommend.
I think if you're used to sliding on snow and have some athleticism, you can go with a sturdier ski. I think that puts the Anomaly 84 and the Peregrine 82 at the top of your list. You might out ski the 80 sooner rather than later, probably worth a bump to the sturdier 82. The Anomaly is the most stable and high-performance as well as the most versatile. If you spend more time on-trail and in a carved turn, the Peregrine aligns more with that application.
What is more appropriate for an intermediate skier: Peregrine 82, Montero AX or Anomaly 84? Is Peregrine 82 good for an intermediate skier hoping to progress? It should allow skidding turns and mistakes.
I live in European alps, so it should handle ice to slush (with bumps) snow conditions during the same day, but mostly on piste (for powder I will take snowboard). I am a snowboarder moving (partially) to ski, now doing about 10-15 days skiing and 10 days snowboarding per season, will be the 3rd season on ski.
Thanks!
I'd go with the Montero AX due to the slightly more flexible shovel. The other skis are on the stiffer side overall and may not provide the latitude you're looking for when it comes to mistakes. Also, they're incredibly smooth and awesome skis overall.
Thanks for the answer!
Do you think that the new Montero AX 2025 would be much better than 2024 for an intermediate skier (i guess it will have a bit more flexible tips and tails)? I think there is a discount for 2024 model, but is it worth paying extra for the new model?
@@nikolaytsyganov1452 I don't think it makes much of a difference--both are amazing skis. The flex gets a bit more available when it comes to slower and more moderate speeds, so yes I do think there's a benefit for an intermediate, but maybe not worth the extra money.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! Spoken to the Stockli rep in their shop, she said there is a difference, but not everyone could even feel it as it's quite minor, at least according to her experience on testing 2025 models. So she recommended taking a discount :).
Thanks for quick answers and great reviews!
How does the Peregrine compare to the Montero AX? Versatility, bumps, variable, groomer performance?
The 82 feels more like the AX than the 80 in terms of build, I don't think the shape is as much of a big difference. I skied the AX yesterday and it was amazing how well it handled variable snow conditions and terrain. The groomer performance of the Stockli is a lot smoother, but not necessarily higher end.
I was planning to replace my Salomon S/Force 11 with Deacon 80/84 this year.
Now I look at Peregrine 82 as most suiting my needs- stability at higher speeds and medium to long turns are my prorities.
I ski 100% on-piste in European Alps.
Do you think it’s worth waiting for Peregrine as it seems to be a good choice? Or just stick with 2024
Deacons?
Could You advice me on sizing (172/177) ? I’m 180cm (5’11) / 95kg (208lbs). My Salomon skis felt just perfect at 177cm.
We say this a lot when new skis come out--it's not like the Deacon 84 is all of a sudden a bad ski. There are a lot of similarities here for sure, and comfort at long and medium turns definitely carries through. I think if you want to get a better deal on a great set of skis, go for the Deacon 84. I'd say the 177 if that's what you're used to will be just fine.
Retired my old AC3s due to the bindings, I am about to pull the trigger on a pair of Deacon 84s on sale (30% off) to replace. Am I going to have FOMO by not getting the Peregrine 82s or is the 84s still a good ice coast ski?
It's not like the Deacon 84 all of a sudden became a bad ski. It's still awesome. If you can get a good price on a Deacon, I say go for it.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks as always for your honest feedback. You guys (and gals) are a great resource. Was a pleasure meeting you at the Boston Ski Show last fall! I look forward to your review and insight!
I'm currently skiing on Dynastar Outland Pro 80 , just been lucky enough to do a Volkl factory tour and am tempted by the Peregrine 82, or should I stay at 80 and are they a good replacement for them? Sorry about all teh questions, I'm a European skier. Great review thank you
The 80, with the fiberglass rather than titanal frame of the 82, is more peppy and energetic while the 82 is smoother, stiffer, and a bit more demanding. Personally, I like the quickness and agility of the 80 as it allows for excellent bump skiing as well as being more amenable to shorter and mid-radius carves which I prefer.
You might answer this question in this video but I am going to ask before I forget.. I just got done watching a review on the Montero AR.. How do these skis compare to the AR and AX?
A side question that you can answer or not.. I know Jeff likes to compare VW and Audi.. I am going to compare Good Year to Cooper tires.. Do you have any idea about the rubber dust? Is it soft and can handle high speeds like Good Year or is it hard and loud and slippery like Cooper tires? I imagine there are probably some good analogies with Volkl but I can't think of any right now...
The 82 and the AX share a bit more than the AR and the 82. The 80 doesn't really have a Stockli vibe to it--need the metal of the 82. The AR still wants to track straighter and faster and just feels more substantial on the feet while the AX has the nimbleness of the 82 and the turn versatility.
sry for my bad english. i will buy me a new ski and may favourite was the deacon 84. now i have seen ur test with the peregrine, but i couldn´t understood, whats the difference between the deacon 84 and the peregrine is. my skills are 7, if u have a scale between 1-10 and my preference is to ski on a piste. do u have a recommendation for me, which one i can by?
thank you
I'd get the Deacon 84, mainly because it's a better deal right now. The performance level is very similar, although the Peregrine feels smoother and more composed but not necessarily higher performance.
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thx for ur answer!
How do these compared to the Volkl Blaze?
With the Blaze series Volkl definitely designed wood core non metal laminate skis that are in the All Mountain category. They are described as more approachable ( easier) to ski than models like the Kendo, Mantra skis. Also Blaze models start at 82, 86, 94, 106 and 114 . The 94, 106 and new 114 are very versatile off piste skis. The 82 and 86 are more versatile all mountain recreational models that are relatively easy to ski. That Peregrine 82 is definitely designed to be driven at higher speeds and higher edge angles than the Blaze models. 👍🙏⛷
The Blaze, specifically the width-comparable 82, is a lighter, more versatile ski that's mainly designed for softer snow and easy turning. There's also a touring component with the Blaze, as they are efficient climbers when paired with the proper tech binding and boot combos. The on-trail performance is vastly different, as the Peregrine is a strong and stable ski that operates well on firm snow and at higher speeds.
I have waiting for this Review...I am looking for another ski. Actually i have a rossignol forza 60. And my question is, is the peregrine 80 or 82 a better choice? Or are they quite similar to the forza? My other choice is the nordica steadfast 85. As a good all day ski for mostly spend my time on groomers.
Thanks for the great Videos...
Best regards Olli
The 80 is more similar to the Forza 60, but the Steadfast is right there as well when it comes to short, round, and clean arcs. I do think the 82 offers a bit more in terms of firm snow performance as it has a pretty steady edge grip to it on ice. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the Steadfast 85.
Why would you trade in the Forza60? I have this ski as well and it’s such a nice carver. Skied it in less than ideal conditions (crud, very soft snow, fresh snow) and it powers through it without any problems. And boy, does it like to turn! The 60 is really versatile, as long as you stay on the groomers.
I am looking to purchase my first pair of skis and need some help. I live on the east coast so I would need a pair of skis that can handle groomed hard packed snow and I want to get into the park aswell. I was looking at the Faction Prodigy 2, Bent 100, and the Armada Arv 100. Any recommendations?
Im just an internet dipshit but i would go for something in the 90s. I always feel my edging capabilities especially on ice get considerably worse with wider skis.
Im also starting to get into a bit of park/terrain and dont feel im missing too much on my 92's.
For eastern skiing, I do think the narrower versions of these skis make more sense, so the Prodigy 1, Bent 90, and ARV 94 might fit in better with what you're looking to do. Between those, the ARV has a nice mix of on and off trail characteristics while I do find the Bent and the Faction to fall on the flexible side of the spectrum for groomers and firmer snow.
These sound awesome! Think the 80 is suitable for an intermediate?
Yes, I found the ski to be very easy to turn but still has a lot of energy for progressing and improving skiers.
Thanks!!
Peregrine 82 vs Anomoly 84? Vs Steadfast 85?
The Anomaly is the higher horsepower ski of the group with the Peregrine just behind, but it's not as versatile as the Anomaly is either. Steadfast prefers more moderate speeds and turn shapes, but in this realm, it's one of the more engaging skis I've been on these past two years. If you're looking for fantastic groomer and all-mountain performance, go with the Anomaly. If you're on-piste most/all of the time and like the precise and smooth feel of a pure front side ski, the Peregrine is fantastic.
Oh boy is this great ⛷❄️
Yes it is!
Can we pay to take out a demo of the Peregrines at your Killington location?
I doubt it, but give them a call and see if they'll set it up. My guess is that they're only for retail sale.
Guys, how would you compare this to deacon vwerks 84?
The V.Werks is lighter and more snappy--kind of how I feel about the Deacon 80. The 82 is dense and smooth--more so than the V.Werks, but the V.Werks has that light/precise feel to it that is tough to duplicate.
@@SkiEssentials I'm glad someone asked this question! So I'm assuming the Deacon V.Werks is being retired and replaced with these skis as well? I think I'd like to pick up a set of the V.Werks if it's being retiring and will be discounted!
Im on the deacon 84 at whiteface they are definitely responsive
I ski like bob with the body of Jeff
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Before I listen to the reviews, both Peregrines look way, way better than their predecessors which look old school in comparison.
Agree! Although I always liked the fire engine red of the Deacon 80.