Will it Run? Stuck Supercharged 2 Stroke Detroit Diesel! John Deere 440 Sitting for Years!
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- This one isn't our usual car or truck but we've been needing a tractor to use..why not one that's a bit different! This 1960 John Deere 440 was parked years ago when the hydraulics gave up. In today's video we're attempting to get the frozen, Supercharged, 2 stroke, 2-53 Detroit Diesel running again! I hope you all enjoy! Thank you as always for the continued Love and Support!!
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It's really nice to see their are still a couple of channel's that fix things so they can use them and not just for views. Now that's very 😎👍🔥🇺🇲
Do not put rag into blower, it will be sucked into the cylinders, have a block of wood ready to put over the blower. Ask BusGreaseMonkey how the governor is setup so it will respond better to throttle lever.
Yeah, he tried shutting down a 6-71 in a bus with an old towel. Unfortunately his wife’s car was sitting next to the rear of the bus with a door open….. The towel went thru the engine, was totally chewed up, and the remains wound up in the seat of the car………
"There's something about the Detroit Diesel!" You hit the nail on the head, Michael...they're loud, brash, and they will pull their weight - when you take care of them, they will run forever. And sometimes, with a little determination, you can bring them back. Looking forward to seeing this working out again😁👍
Yeah after you bring em back its just like waking up a monster. Right back to work beautiful engines for work
I never comment on this channel because my mechanical knowledge is zero but it doesn't stop my enjoyment - I'm surprised they don't have more subscribers - thanks for the content guys! 👍
We really do appreciate your comment! 😊 I’m so glad you’re enjoying! Thank you!
Love it man! Awesome!
Love your enthusiasm Michael, after doing the Porsche this will be a walk in the park. Just be careful with this big stuff it can kill you rather than just hurt you!
Ain't that awesome! Even the little two cyl Detroit has the "Detroit" sound. Sounds soooooo good!
I never knew a 2 stroke could have valves and I thought I knew motors, that's cool!
And it's got a supercharger. Unique.
And a crankcase full of oil too!
@@ebutuoyebutouy not a supercharger
@@stereolababy Read to video's title. U can see it in the video. On the side of the block below the cylinder head. All have a supercharger. Some of the last models also got a turbocharger.
@@ebutuoyebutouy its just a blower that clears the combustion chamber. you should read about 2 stroke diesels and what that is that you think is a SC
I am excited for you guys and I am bouncing around like a 40 year old watching you.
😃😃😃 I hope you enjoyed!!
@@BudgetBuildz we did sir I say that we did!
The stuff you poured down the blower is coming out the airbox drain. There's also an airbox cover that you could remove and see into the intake ports on the cylinders. The drain is there to let any oil out that could collect in the airbox.
Thanks so much for the info! I’ll take a look!
Hank and Wiley are so jealous.
Excellent video Budget Buildz :) also Mike :) furance oil is lower quality Desiel fuel it blue yellow color and farm Desiel fuel is Purple Blue Red Die also fuel station same colors but that one had water in tons ! Also what do put A grey bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel tank plus Add 300 Automatic transmission Fluid in together in new fuel also do monthly too! That fuel filter you buy from John Deere , International in Case or Massey Ferguson Dealerships also oil filter too also use conventional 10w30 or 15w40 engine oil to no synthetic type! Air Chamber there pan on bottom take Heavy Duty SAE 30 engine oil, 50/50 antifreeze green type Prestone use , Hydraulic fluid plus Filter get from Dealership of John Deere, called Hy Tran and Transmission is 80w90 differential fluid in too got lots to fill and oil pressure gauge too works right! Engine parts get from John Deere too!
heating oil is #2 diesel same as diesel you get at the pump bro!
Well Hot damn & slop the chicken's that old work horse ain't done yet!
Pretty awesome! I love seeing old farm/tractors stuff brought back to life. It might be finicky, but there's no computers to mess with!
Great to see that the machine will continue to be useful. Good for the environment. Joe
It's not supercharged it has a "blower" all the blower does is blow in another charge of fresh air it doesn't make boost. Next it's best to put a vicegrip on the rack and manually run the throttle it sounds like the govenor/linkage or injection rack is hanging up the way it revs then dies. Hopefully the hydraulics are easy to figure out
everyone loves to say a detroit is blown, but little do they know
You are correct sir👍
A super charger and a blower are the same dang thing. They literally pull the roots blowers of 71 series and use them on built car engines. The only difference is sizing. Also... even in a detroit the blowers do increase intake pressure... they wouldn't be blowing any air through the engine if they didn't make any at all. A super charger is a broad term that covers blowers and turbos and aything else that increases intake pressure above ambient air pressure. A turbo charger is a type of super charger for example, just like a blower is a type of supercharger.
@@Wingnut353 yes but its not "super charging" if it was "super charging" they wouldn't have added turbos to them engines with blower bypass doors. It's called a blower on a Detroit because its simply "blowing" fresh air into the engine it's simply replacing the intake stroke. A super charger is for performance applications as its sized larger per engine displacement and typically spinning faster to create boost pressure for forced induction. A Detroit is a "naturally aspirated" engine when it doesn't have a turbo hence the "N" on 6-71N or 4-53N, the N stands for "naturally aspirated" your not wrong on other applications it is most definitely a super charger but on a 2 stroke Detroit is sole purpose is to blow in a fresh charge of air not gain performance they will not run without one.
@@jaronvaughn4520 thank for correcting these people I'm Jimmy nut from Canada and yeah if starts to run away a towel isn't the answer a block of wood or good health 12"x12" piece of 3/4" plywood right 😉
Thats nuts there is a towel over there lol.
Good job guys. Thanks Ron
Awesome to see you guys bringing these vehicles/tractors back to life! Bravo 👏🏻
That wind is a normal day in Oklahoma lol cool old rig!
I never had any doubt. Built to last.
Love IT! Love the variety of stuff lately. This big rig is ready to WORK!!! YES, more of this, please!!!
Anything you want to know about a 2 - stroke Detroit you can learn from Wayne 0:12 Stroker. He is very knowlegable when it comes to Detroits.
yep same on my old tractor, pull starter and us the pry bar to turn it over
Fun to watch and how happy you are when it is running. Mind you I would be happy too
What an awesome video!! However, 2 strokes aren't "supercharged", they have a "blower" which is not a 'performance enhancing' part, it's actually part of how the engine works. There's plenty of video's around which explain how they work in good detail, if you're interested. Can't wait for the follow up vid! Three thumbs up!!
True, lots of folks make that mistake…. I cringed every time he called it a “supercharger”. And 2-53 means 2 cylinders at 53 CI per cylinder.
Yup, the blower is for scavenging
Sounds excellent.
You guys are miracle workers.
Great video and I love it because I have an old 1970 model 400 John Deere backhoe . I found out that a water company had bought it brand new and then it had a couple of owners before me .
I see several things that are similar and then I see several things that are heavier built on my 400 . It has had a new engine block put in it and a new hydraulic pump put on it and a new alternator and it has had a used steering box unit off of a John Deere tractor put on it and it is in fair shape, but a little rough also . I have had it for about 4 years and still have several things that I am going to work on, the main thing now is I need to replace several hydraulic hoses on it, they are not leaking but look awful all cracked and split and rusted really bad on several of them . I am looking forward to seeing yours cleaned up and hoses fixed and engine running good . Thanks for the video and I will see you all later, take care and stay safe .
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Nana says you can practice on that machine at her house. ( only a couple of jobs lol) Love ya sweetie
Cool ole tractor .gotta love your enthusiasm .
David, I can not even comprehend you stuffing a rag in the intake!~ A board to cover is the only method. I have twisted wrenches as long as you and your dads age combined or at least close... that rag gets sucked into the blower and goes between the shafts, it will split it like a watermelon! Take the rack off and clean clean it, the governor housing the same!
B.B. ,, INTERESTING A TRACTOR NOT A CAR ,, ITS A CHANGE NICE!!! LOVE THE CARS ,,ALSO..GREAT SOUND WE NEED PART 2!!!! PEACE>...
I work in the towboat industry as a pilot, we actually have one of those little 2 cyliders with a generator stinger on it at the office
that sock filter is a ac delco t553. i sold thousands of them.
I would have dumped a lot of motor oil over the top end to lube it up before the pump kicks in. But thank God she runs.
I just bought a 67 JD400 with the 4cyl non turbo diesel.
Engine locked up, trying my best to get it started!
Good job!
Nice work
I was happy to be able to finally be in on one of those high fives!
3:05 that's why I love this channel. We get to see it all. Keep up the good work :)
That is a very cool sounding 2 Detroit cylinder diesel.
Yes sir I have to agree with you on that drain tank.
I believe that it is going to with no issues if done correctly and patience is used with excess!
Super cool!
That’s cool and once u got it unstuck and started it up she sounds healthy. Great work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
That's a really cool og episode, bringing something back from the dead. Show more on the clean up please 🤙🏻
Awesome episode mate! Can't wait for the next one. Wanna see that bad boy diggin.
You are correct you want everything loose. Pull that valve cover off!!! 😉🤙😊👍
Look Mummy, an Airplane Up in the Sky, Name that Tune. P.S. Great Video.
By the way which one is Pink lol
Oh man! You have to restore that thing ! Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 😉
Nice find guy's hope you get it functioning again 👍👍🇺🇸
Nice! I'm amazed how your dad looks like he could be your twin brother!
NICE!!!!
Thanks!
Amazing save
Thank you!
Good job on that one! Looking forward to seeing it work for you!
I believe the "Acetone/ATF Mix" originated from "Tayrl" on Utube as a Lawnmower Mechanic...
Or, at least where I heard about it first 3 years ago.
"TRACTOR SUPPY" may have most of the parts that you will need for that JD!
Sincerely,
-T 🖖
Western Washington State
P.S. Nice Gantry Crane on the side of your Shop! 👍
No it didn't, it's been around for longer than him.
@@MegaDirtyberty It used to be called Ed’s Red. An old gunsmith was credited with being the original creator of it but he probably heard about it from another old guy.
Awesome video guys 😃 love you and your dad working together.
Great job guys! That is going to come in handy around the homestead!😁
Awesome episode Michael can't wait to see it in operation
I know of a guy who has the 3cyl. version(3-53) in a pickup truck. Not fast but you know he's coming.
This would have happened to the jubilee you sold us but glad we got it!! great video!!!!
Use filter assembly for oil furnace
Good to see you upload Michael
You should contact the people on the Bus Grease Monkey on RUclips. He knows a lot about Detroit Diesals, although he is more into the large engines...but he can probably point you to places where you can get things like injectors and the like.
Im not too well known on these engines but as far as I know they just added and subtracted cylinders from the engine and kept the rest of tech the same so im pretty sure if he knows alot about the large ones he can easily help with the small ones
Diesel > Everything
Fantastic job great outcome guys.
A two stroke diesel ! 😳 Never heard about that . Impressive ! 👍
This was really cool love to have that tractor
Is there anything you guys can't get running lol guys it sounds great that supercharger sounds great still a lot to go but i no you can get it going so keep on keeping on
Looking forward to seeing this "minty"
Love you guys and the videos. Really hope to see more videos soon. God Bless
That's tough lil diesel way to go michael! Loving the content want to see more on the diesel
Bus grease monkeys gonna be proud of u running a Detroit diesel
Congrats, very nice project!! And it´s different !!
Awesome cool 🆒️ 😎 👍
Great content. Be awesome to see it put back to work.
Hmm, last night I found a listing for an old wood hull boat with twin 6-53 Detroit Diesels.
The 71 or 92 Detroits are technically better engines in they had fewer problems about staying running.
If the engine has a blower on it it is "Naturally Aspirated" not "Supercharged", diesels have a blower to move enough air through to clear exhaust gasses from the cylinders, the ones with a turbocharger on them are the ones with higher airflow and compression for better performance.
I hope that you will get it going again.
You might have a awesome piece of equipment and history that you can use daily if you take care of it. Drain and fill run shortly and drain again.
Had a John Deere 435 with one of those ragged ass screaming detroits a few years back.
Good video I like these different fixes. I saw a channel recently I think it was Hot Rod Hoarder and he explored a junkyard in Tennessee where they guy had like 14 cosworth vega’s. I think that would be a very interesting restoration. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !
Yes them old Detroit Yamaha’s do run diesel straight diesel
Michael! I’m surprised you didn’t try and drive the tractor! It’s what you usually do - either way, awesome content!
Pakistani approved safety sandals. Finally.
Wow, never heard an engine like that before!
That was AWESOME!!!!
Sounds like a siren!! Wheres part 2????
It will run now. Service everything now.
Be careful with that Detroit. Although a 2-53 isn't as dangerous as the big boys. 53/71 6cyl and bigger. Really cool to see a change in content! more Heavy-duty/farm stuff!
absolutely awesome. loved it
COOL! Can you confirm the rpm you are running it at? And is that ok for it?
Thanks! I’m not positive what the max rpm is, I believe 2800. It is governed also. With that we probably didn’t run it over 1400rpm or so, without the intake it is exceptionally loud and sounds like it’s revved a lot higher. We won’t run it much like that, even so, without getting it under a load.
It's a 2 stroke so it sounds like it's spinning twice as fast
Old heating oil and old diesel was the same.
It is a scavenger blower not a supercharger. Although you can use this as a sc. The engine only has exhaust valves and intake ports.
Put some sea foam in fuel tank per instructions 1 oz per gal?.good luck
Those old two strokes will run on ALMOSt any oil, mineral spirits, turpentine, cooking oil, and yes heating oil.
And they will run away on their own lubricating oil.
heating oil is diesel!guess you diod not know.
@@andrewslagle1974 Spot On. kinda depends on the refinery, locally they make kerosene, diesel, light and heavy fuel oils. All of which are separate products.
Great stuff guys
that engine would be cool for a small truck build
Blower not supercharger. The way a 2 stroke works it needs the blower to push fresh air into the cylinders since it doesn't have valves. It doesn't create "boost". You can add a turbo to it for that. Later units actually had Turbo.
Interesting project. 👌
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Excellent job guys! It scares me to think you're running that for that long with acetone in the oil, however you did mention dumping the oil, so all's well that ends well. Looking forward to seeing further progress 👍☮️