The propulsion specifications are all over the map. You've clearly compromised the motoring performance to go with this electric option. You've spec'd a 25 kW electric motor for propulsion yet in the diesel version you've selected a diesel with over double the continuous rated output at 59kW. At minimum 15,000 kg displacement you're only at 1.6 kW per ton well under the 2 kW per ton industry standard which most vessels exceed including your conventionally diesel powered version at 3.9 kW per ton. Curious what your thoughts and test results have shown performance wise. Specifically why the power discrepancy in a design billed at the ultimate blue water boat.
Realistically everyone going blue water will take the conventional diesel. Honestly I think until batteries get better, electric is only really viable for day sailors.
Why would you include the generator if the boat has the diesel option? These are lithium based batteries, which means their charge rates are very high. Why not charge the house bank at 100 amps+ from the propulsion diesel? At 1.4 kWh + your be recharged very quickly. With a bank that size dual alternators and near 3kWh should be possible.
@TehCoiL I did not mean lifting the yacht. I meant where is the tender stowed - davits or foredeck? If foredeck how is it launched. The tender is often an afterthought on cruising yachts but is enormously important
That's the really funny thing, they have come up with a "solution" of a sorry tiny davits that are attached to the folding swim platform, so you can hang your tender off the stern some foot or two off the water. So it will be in the way should you moor stern to and it will also be useless at sea. But it would be interesting to see if the whole platform would be ripped off if the tender got pooped on from breaking waves from behind.
Love the vacuum epoxy with kevlar reinforcing construction. Love the fact that it doesnt have a torpedo keel bulb. The interior layout is great as is the fit of tankage and systems. The hexagonal windows and the coachroof are "bleach my eyes" level of ugly and the idea of hanging a dinghy off davits that are attached to a folding swim platform some 60 cm off the water is such an hopeless design. It incorporates the rear that works poorly with a braindead solution for dinghy storage. The looks are subjective, but if you are making a blue water focused boat, have it made with appropriate design from the get go. Hell, you could just offer a factory made solar arch, fixed wind screen and factory fitted bimini that covers the entire cockpit and is easily deployed. The people down south wont get anything without sun cover and even here up in the Nordics, being able to block out the rain and snow would be essential to separate this from other cuirsers. So much potential and great workmanship ruined by atrocious design that is not fit for intented use.
I have 8 100 amps lithium batteries in my 23ft trailer. That is good for a week boomdocking. This is not suficiente for this boat, on heavy usage the generator will be running virtually all day long. Noise hell for sure.
Wow, this is one fantastic yacht! I recently completed my circumnavigation on our X-482. I can't wait to do it again on a XC 47😊
The propulsion specifications are all over the map. You've clearly compromised the motoring performance to go with this electric option. You've spec'd a 25 kW electric motor for propulsion yet in the diesel version you've selected a diesel with over double the continuous rated output at 59kW. At minimum 15,000 kg displacement you're only at 1.6 kW per ton well under the 2 kW per ton industry standard which most vessels exceed including your conventionally diesel powered version at 3.9 kW per ton.
Curious what your thoughts and test results have shown performance wise. Specifically why the power discrepancy in a design billed at the ultimate blue water boat.
Realistically everyone going blue water will take the conventional diesel. Honestly I think until batteries get better, electric is only really viable for day sailors.
Why would you include the generator if the boat has the diesel option? These are lithium based batteries, which means their charge rates are very high. Why not charge the house bank at 100 amps+ from the propulsion diesel? At 1.4 kWh + your be recharged very quickly. With a bank that size dual alternators and near 3kWh should be possible.
You could add an 48v alternator that gives you up to 9kw so you are correct a generator is overkill unless you want safety backup.
Hi everyone. From gas stove to lithium battery's same same but different. I've been on board x yachts and they build really good boats so????
Where does the tender go? Foredeck? And how is it launched and retrieved?
Every single X-Yacht ever built have a centerlift where you lift the boat via the steelframe that is built into the hull.
@TehCoiL I did not mean lifting the yacht. I meant where is the tender stowed - davits or foredeck? If foredeck how is it launched. The tender is often an afterthought on cruising yachts but is enormously important
That's the really funny thing, they have come up with a "solution" of a sorry tiny davits that are attached to the folding swim platform, so you can hang your tender off the stern some foot or two off the water. So it will be in the way should you moor stern to and it will also be useless at sea. But it would be interesting to see if the whole platform would be ripped off if the tender got pooped on from breaking waves from behind.
You lost me at sail drive 😂😂😂
Innovation just for the sake of innovation. Where is true value innovation?
What electric motor was it?
I know u showed Ocean Volt, but it was silver, and OV is blue 🤔
Oceanvolt HighPower ServoProp 25
nice, are you guys going to be in Cannes Boat Show with it?@@Oceanvolt
Love the vacuum epoxy with kevlar reinforcing construction. Love the fact that it doesnt have a torpedo keel bulb. The interior layout is great as is the fit of tankage and systems. The hexagonal windows and the coachroof are "bleach my eyes" level of ugly and the idea of hanging a dinghy off davits that are attached to a folding swim platform some 60 cm off the water is such an hopeless design. It incorporates the rear that works poorly with a braindead solution for dinghy storage.
The looks are subjective, but if you are making a blue water focused boat, have it made with appropriate design from the get go. Hell, you could just offer a factory made solar arch, fixed wind screen and factory fitted bimini that covers the entire cockpit and is easily deployed. The people down south wont get anything without sun cover and even here up in the Nordics, being able to block out the rain and snow would be essential to separate this from other cuirsers. So much potential and great workmanship ruined by atrocious design that is not fit for intented use.
I have 8 100 amps lithium batteries in my 23ft trailer. That is good for a week boomdocking. This is not suficiente for this boat, on heavy usage the generator will be running virtually all day long. Noise hell for sure.
Dumbest thing ever is to put an electric engine in a sailboat
Electric motor?? Are you nuts. Batteries exploding. Lithium mined killing all life!!?? What??
Still don’t get the thought of building a plastic boat with an e motor to reduce carbon!!
You can leave 100 k technology behind with a better result.
dunno why monohulls are a thing when catamarans are here. quit wasting time chasing a dying market.
Put out a battery fire ???? Yeah right anyone ever see a battery fire it is really scary, this is crazy