Simon Jordan DEFENDS Ange Postecoglou's Dismissive Approach To Set-Pieces! 👀🔥
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan discuss Tottenham Hotspur manager Ange Postecoglou's footballing mentality.
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It'll happen again tonight. We'll concede from a set piece.
😂 While a player is standing on Vicarios toes
Thiago Silva will score from a set piece.
Hahaha not against Chels mates
If they don’t learn to protect Vic there is a massive issue with tactics.
What a bunch of negative supporters. 😂😂😂👍🏽
Culture my backside... What's more spursy than conceding three goals in the first half to ur biggest rivals. Conte's words still ringing true!
And schooled again by Chelsea. This Chelsea. Smh
@@jamieldn I can't believe these are professional footballers. No uniqueness, no faints, no drop of shoulder, passing is below par, crossing non existent, decision making gone awry. It's like they only know how to run in straight lines
@@KitzlerM.Dietrich robots. Zero personality and character. Its like they all picked the good boys in school. The brown nosers and the teacher's pet. They're all easily rattled. It wouldn't surprised me if they called mum at halftime.
Simon is spot on, he gets it!
What does he get exactly ?
Simon is right
@@phildemetriou440 It’s about the bigger picture. Changing a whole culture at a club like Spurs is a big feat. It’s not about damage mitigation, it’s about changing the core fundamental way players approach the game. To truly be successful this is the correct approach, and it’ll take time.
@@phildemetriou440 read the reply above
This aged well…
Aged like milk lol
Chelsea SCORED 2 Set pieces tonight fyi
Simon’s defence, of Levy and anything Spuds, is so solid he’d win the Quadruple.
Spuds dear oh dear. You shouldn't be listening get back to school.
wtf are you talking about? Spurs wining? Ha!
@@kevinwhite3560 old enough for your mama
@Zion66666 the more you open your mouth the more you show what a little mug you are. Pathetic
@@Zion66666 this is not a mature response. 😬
Spurs just need to get their recruitment right, and they will be in the mix. It is on the recruitment team to identify players that are undervalued and can be improved by Postecoglou's coaching. Even Man City rarely buy galacticos (Haaland and Grealish being exceptions to the rule): they have a profile of player that they look for, that they can plug into the Pep coaching machine and add +£30m in value.
So, just like every other club in existence?
Good point except Grealish is very far from a galactico. Miles off
@@Qlickyno, realistically there are very few teams that can possibly be ‘in the mix’
But their recruitment was dubbed one of the best before the season begun
Ange will focus on finding players who 1. who make strong defensive decisions 2. who make fewer defensive mistakes 3. players who can play as an upfield defense 4. players who create and convert scoring chances.... and all with a winning mentality..... running until they drop... preseason is gonna hurt big time.
Ange has had an ok first season.
Spurs playing their most attractive football in several years.
Proven to be stubborn and naive in first managerial job in the Prem.
The honeymoon is now over.
If spurs don't hit the ground running next season, the knives will be out.
They finished 8th last year, without Kane they’d have finished 12th-15th. They then lost Kane. Pretty much guaranteed 5th with 5 games left is better than “ok” I’d argue. They do need to concede less and be more consistent next year, I’d agree
@@mikeydoc11 They had a great start but have been rubbish since Chelsea in November. 25 games, 10 wins, 4 draws, 11 losses, 41 goals scored, 45 conceded, out of both cups early and no European football to worry about. Had it not been for new manager bounce they wouldn't be in the top half of the table and he's be looking at the sack potentially.
@@SW-by9ob 10 wins seemed a little low so I went had a look. It was 11 wins and 10 losses. Now 11 loses after Chelsea today. They definitely had a poor November period (4 loses) and a poor recent period (3 loses). Finishing top 5 is a good 1st year. Now we'll see what he can do going forward
Jordan defends anything Spurs and his mate Levy
💯
If Spurs' defence was as good as Simon's defence of Spurs then we'd be top of the league.
Simon has it pretty well spot on here, I hjave watched Ange teams play over the years and that is the best analysis on AP teams since he has come to the Premier League
Nonsense, every successful team can defend and has a good defence. Hogwash
People forget Spurs took 18 games to concede a single goal from a corner. 23 games until the 2nd goal conceded and it started being a thing in the media.. There was originally a lot of praise for their defending at set pieces, but it's easier to just look at recent form.
There's obviously been a drop off and teams are targeting that since the second Everton game, but Ange is right not to overreact and panic his squad/staff into doubling their time training set pieces. If they get better at controlling games more generally and get a couple stronger aerial players in, it's very quickly not a huge issue.
From my POV the main issues in the last few months have been not having Richy. He is strong from defensive corners. Much as I hate to say it we also miss Harry, Hugo and Eric as they were all very solid in the air.
@@markwjones23 Yeah you're bang on. Harry Kane was arguably our best defender for defensive set pieces, best forward for goals, best creative outlet in midfield areas... We really did rely on him for everything!
Spurs just lost to Chelsea, and again both goals came from set pieces! 😂
@@tonylam4549 yeah as I said, obviously there is a problem, but I would argue both goals came from losing control of the game and giving away a stupid foul as much as just not being switched on at a set piece
Postenoclue thinks defending is not his style. It’s a critical requirement “mate”, not an optional thing.
Postenoclue is running 5th when everybody predicted we’d be 10th
@@ropekd1681 The start he had helped - before the opposition started to figure him out and then it became clear that Postecoglou is not interested in resolving obvious problems.
@@ropekd1681 I never thought we'd finish as low as that. I thought we'd have a decent season and challenge for both top 4 and at least one of the cups, even with Kane gone. Went out of both cups early and top 4 is almost gone with 5 games to go. It's been a disappointing season overall. The praise for Ange is so far OTT.
@@ropekd1681 No team in the history of the PL has ever had a start as good as Spurs this season and still finished outside the top 4. That's how bad the last 6 months have been, without even mentioning the abysmal showing in the cups.
business of winning?
winning teams defend and attack set pieces with consistency
Simon, he had 15 days to prepare to play against spurs’s arch rivals. Arsenal played 4 games in that time. His not silly. But he’s certainly stubborn and slightly naive. You cannot kick on without a Plan B.
He also said he would never question the referee decision earlier on. Now he has changed his tune
Honestly, does Simon have shares in Spurs because Ange is immune to criticism apparently due to Ange ball mate.
Levy a friend
Doesn’t have the courage of his convictions to bash spurs
Ange AND levy
They are a private limited company
If you can’t defend from set pieces and concede goals you will not win games in this league. Set pieces are so important nowadays and the childish reaction that he doesn’t have any interest in that side of the game is a joke just ask Celtic fans. The man has one way of coaching and that’s why he will never reach the top of the game. Martin O’Neill, Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon and even Wim Jansen all done exactly the same job in Scotland as Ange so let’s not make him out to be something special which he clearly is not, he will b at Spurs another 18 months and then he will be sacked and we will never hear of him in this country again.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Ange has concided 3 corner goals in two matches
But Postecoglou thinks there are more important things to focus on.
The guy's clueless.
@@ppuh6tfrz646that’s why he’s managing spurs and your commenting on RUclips
9 goals conceded and replied with 3. I can understand conceding to Arsenal but the other two sides have been bang average. Newcastle have been poor and Chelsea are having a banter season. They're in their banter era. 🥲
Imagine Simons response if Arteta had lost at the weekend and said that? Simons on Levys payroll 100%
Simon is a multi millionaire he’s on no one’s payroll
Might not be on his payroll but Simon DEFINITELY has some vested interest in spurs. No idea what is it, especially when the club has shafted him in the past when he owned palace, but it literally pains him to say anything negative about them or Daniel Levy.
@@shaunlee2135 well he’s a good friend of Daniel Levy.
SJ said the Truth.
Ange is a WC manager who will win nothing with the Spurs 👌
If WC is short for toilet I do agree. Suit Spursy toilet of a stadium perfectly as he's absolutely dogshit.
So many bots
Defo
Can you guys finally agree this guy works for Levy. Please don’t take his views on my club ARSENAL seriously.
Goffy!
Simon defends anything Tottenham. I wonder why? Nothing to do with his BF Mr Levy
Couldn't be that Ange just talks sense and is a down to earth guy.
@@fudgetable1he's clearly blinkered when it comes to Totspur. It was happening way before Ange arrived.
Simon you are wrong. Ossie Ardiles had the same philosophy, we might let in three or four but we will score four or five. IT DON'T WORK!!!
Great commentary Simon! Ange is definitely changing the culture first! Then success will follow!
Not with him in charge it won't. Naive and utterly predictable.
Ange has not raised the bar, Spurs will never win anything with this guy, any manager who believes they can play the same way, same tactics, for every opponent or plays a high line with 9 players or believes set piece defending is not important, 60% of goals come from set pieces, is delusional, get rid
Simon will always defend his Daniel Levy.
He's a manager with a style that would smash through a league if he had 11 world-class players.
Problem for him is he's at Spurs!
Well said back the Gaffa 👍
If he fixes the spursy mentality he will become legendary 💪
Simon Jordan is living proof of some clubs having their media (paid) voice. His defence of incompetent cowboys from Chelsea (Boehly) and stubborn Levy from Tottenham is just ridiculous.
These guys in the media talk outta their back sides. When Arteta said there were times he thought about subbing a GK they all said blah blah blah. Now it Ange and they are like he doesn't really mean it that way.
Setpieces will always be part the game, and if teams are getting stronger at them then pretty silly to rule them out
Of all players he's doubting Pedro Porro the guy doesn't know anything about football 🤡🤡🤡
Can you imagine Pat Jennings struggling with set pieces back in the day? It just wouldn't happen, he would organise his defence and command his goal. If things continue like this at Spurs, there's only one outcome I'm afraid.
In a way Ange has exceeded expectations. The expectation is that Spurs never win anything but often get past the first few rounds of the domestic cups, and Ange has exceeded that by going out of both early.
Postecoglou is the MAN
That's what the other Premier League managers are starting to say.
They love him because he's easy to read and becoming easy to play against.
Is a man. I agree
Daniel Levy’s media mouthpiece in full swing here
Ange will prove everyone wrong,like he’s done years after years.He’s a proven winner and I actually think the only thing that could stop him is Levy not backing him in the transfer window.COYS.
I never saw so much passion for Arteta who in his first job ever as a manager has to turn around a football club that was in total shambles with bang average players rotting the squad at the time. But we all know he has a kind spot for Tottenham. It’s too bad it’s biasing his opinion on Arsenal.
Ange is everyone’s best mate down the pub. If he wasn’t he’d be given a hard time.
Guaranteed Chelsea win tonight.
Tottenham will just about fall over the line for European football next season.
Looking forward to getting bladdered, watching them on Thursday nights, love it. We're not good enough for Champion's League!
@@slonchdixon652
Agreed.
The CL next year would be far too soon for Tottenham.
The UEFA Cup is a far more suitable tournament for their development.
You do know the Real Madrid zone marks defending corners and does not put someone to assist goal keeper ???
Agree with simon, but I really hope the behind the scenes that he is working on set pieces and he does see it as problem. I do get what he is trying to do is create winning culture.
"hes not a silly man" and "i dont care about our record with set pieces"
Mutually exclusive
Simon one minute defends levy next week he will be saying he doesnt spend enough.....bottom line is levy needs to invest way more money into the team /squad with 250m plus his summer ....we will see all on levy now
For anyone who thinks ange isn’t good enough. Look through his record as a manager in Australia, International team manager, Japan and Scotland. This exact conversation on his tactics was said 20 years ago, repeated year after year and he’s made everyone eat their words since. I hate spurs but he’s built different and will change English football. It’s just like how Australians and even Kiwis have had to change English cricket, Australians have just taken longer to get to the PL table.
Bobbins. Those tactics might work in farmers leagues and international football, but over a 38 game PL season? No chance, as he's proven in the last 6 months.
Ange is not interested in getting 4th and not interested in defending set pieces.
What's next. Not interested in winning?
Spurs really found a manager that matches their history and DNA.
It's like saying I'll raise my GPA to 4.0 but refusing to study math
Villa have conceded more goals from set pieces than spurs this season
Gangho it is then Ange 😂😂😂😂
Ange clearly isn't going to change or adapt to the EPL, he's going to force his style of play on opposition teams....
The only question is how long he will last doing it at Tottenham...🤔
It’s so naive of spurs not to try and deal with such a hole. It is something all opposition teams will use to win. Football is a game of fine margins to whether a team wins or loses.
Arteta took time, even
Last year with a really good side they folded like a cheap suit… give him a few windows.
The set piece situation is really just Vicario. He needs to deal with it.
Remember people laughed when Pep says he doesn’t coach tackles
That's correct Pep shouldn't have to, it's up to the players to recognize their weaknesses and practice and train to eliminate those weaknesses. The coach is there for the tactics, style, and team selection. Pep shouldn't be teaching basics when the players are brought in at young ages, and should know the basics by age 17-18, and then improving their game from 18-24. By the time a player is 25-29 they should be playing their best football.
Imagine if it was arteta said what that Spurs manager said I guarantee you Jordan tune would be different
Did he say Spurs were glamorous?
Make it make sense.
The mental gymnastics from Simon to justify a dumb comment is astounding
Simon should set up a separate Spurs apologetics channel....when will Daniel Levy release his grip hold on talk sport
This discussion is a waste of time. Need to focus on what Ange thinks he needs to fix first. Clearly set pieces are important but it's not a priority yet for Ange.
Well done you 'Five - minutes - into - the - future - commentators - and - fans.' Ange is looking years into this VERY challenging Tottenham project in the best league in the world (apparently). Tottenham fans are SO quick with the knives. No wonder your trophy cabinet holds a lot of dust. Hang in there Ange these fans are bi-polar.
I agree simon you right mate ❤❤❤❤
Simon can never admit when hes wrong. He stuck his neck out by putting Ange on a pedestal, and now its looking like he was wrong again. If that was Olly at the wheel saying these things he would be horrified.
Angeball 💯 ❤
As a Celtic fan,we still have problems with set pieces but I do get where Ange is coming from if you buy the best defenders and goalie you shouldn't need to spend a lot of time coaching them how to defend. Where he does need to change in the PL is until he gets the world-class players to play his system he should have a plan B regarding formation changes. He got away with it in Scotland ,he will never get away with it in the PL even with 11 world-class players.
Ange has the experience and the words, he also understands the vicious nonsense......leave him alone......stop with the cowardly bile.....let him work on his team.....
Tino Werner catching strays 😬
I don't really get the spurs argument...you're angry becuase you're 5th? I mean credit to villa who I don't think have a better squad but are over performing . But can spurs really say they have a better team than Liverpool...arsenal or man city? I assume spurs fans are not delusional so the answer must be no .....so how can you be dissatisfied with being below them ? Or is it not the the actual being 5th or just the losing a couple in the row ? But this is synonymous with being 5th you're gonna lose games . This manager came in ..successfully galvanised a team ...successfully improved the way they play now now he needs time and money to put better players in who arnt good enough to finish in the top 4. Which again spurs must admit there are players in that squad who sre just not champions league level so again how would you demand them to get champions league football.
For me I see a team that could be argued to be the 6th ..5th or 4th best team in the league and they're sitting at 5th. Fair enough for a manger who's just come in and hasn't brought in his style of player yet.
No only that we've lost the best English striker since Wayne Rooney, and are still 5th. Imagine Liverpool losing Salah and still being close or in the top 4.
@pyrrhusepirus7181 but that's my point ...you're in a decent position considering everything . I don't know any teams that could lose like 50 goal involvements a season and still knock on champions league football that's why I'm saying I don't understand why there's any anger towards ange right now .
Stop talking sense please, you’ll have all the club draggers after you.
We don't have a better team than Liverpool, Arsenal, or City but the thing that changes it for me is that we didn't have any European football and did nothing in the cups either. Not having the congestion of games is supposed to be an advantage (so you would believe from Pep's and Klopp's rants over the years). So to have no European football, do nothing in the cups, and still falling short of top 4 with a few games to go, is failure for me. Especially for what's supposed to be considered a big team. Chelsea had no European football either and have performed poor in the league but at least they went far in the cups.
@joewhite22 but you haven't been a good cup team for a while really. And new managers don't change that you've had some of the best cup competition managers of all time and that didn't change so why would bringing ange in get you a cup. The team is in dire needs of some players with experience in going far in cup competitions, you won't just automatically get that mentality in the squad . I just don't see the connection between not finishing above 5th , not having a good cup run and ange . If the style of play was awful and the team seemed unhappy I'd be like ok yeah the managers to blame here. But the team looks behind him and plays some nice football you just lack some quality and lack players with experience in winning none of those things are anges fualt
We dont care about CL football. We dont care about set pieces. We only play one way regardless of the opposition. God forbid if poch, arteta or ten hag said any of those things 😂
Spurs have won so many trophies this season
Yawn
Whos here after they've just conceded 2 set piece goals against Chelsea after 70 mins 😂😂😂 mug
Does SJ wear polo necks to hide the fact he has no Adams apple
He is tonight losing 2 nil😅
Poch in rebuild with players he doesn't want. Ange is media darlin who can't do wrong
Ange is evolving into a Manager that isn't really worth listening to. He's likeable for sure and he's charismatic but his cv doesn't say very much. He seems to change his story regularly. Hopefully, he's not out of his depth...
People still think Spurs can win the league.
Pinocchio jim is back
Again,I have to agree with Simon. All surrporters want instant success. It doesnt happen overnight or in one season. Give Poch and Ange a fair go. Surrporters are like virgins in a whorehouse......g>ve me instant gratification!
Better players is so annoying! 20 months ago with a lesser squad (with the exemption of Harry Kane) was predicted to be city’s biggest rivals under Conte, he flopped so now the players aren’t good enough 🙄
The clue is in the word 'predicted' 😎
@@phildemetriou440haha true story
Ange will fail epically next season if he continues being stubborn.
You NPCs have been parroting this for over a decade
100%.
He is getting found out and he will struggle with the extra games next season.
We've played almost the minimum possible number of matches this season.
Spurs will sack him within the next year he’s clueless
VStop the Hate against Arsenal and follow your own process Spursy
"whether pedro porro is a good enough player" LOL
Your not wrong I commented that what a clown 🙄
He’s a decent player
agree, they can work on set-pieces all they want they're still a joke club
Simon is an ex owner who shouldn’t be talking about something he knows nothing about ,he’s clearly on the Ange team bus but the man’s not a good manager in the premier league,and it’s very clear.Arsenal forever 😂
Simon loves spurs
Ange is a media darling for some reason. He won’t ever win the Premier League with his style of play, and he’s incredibly arrogant if he thinks that he can get away with playing the same style, with the same tactics, irrespective of the opposition. Turning his nose up at the option of employing a dedicated set piece coach is unintelligent. Spurs fans will soon get sick of his swashbuckling approach because they’ll keep failing
I'm a lifelong Tottenham fan and I want him out now.
@@ppuh6tfrz646when he's improved your team up the ladder and given attacking mentality. You're proper spurs 😅
@@troppodude The performances have been poor for several months, other teams have started to figure us out because he only has one style of play.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Fair assessment time will tell
😂 you cant stop set pieces in football games talking rubbish SJ 😂
Making a mountain out of a mole hill the media here.
Simon is daydreaming which player in the world that has won things as he puts it is going to go to Tottenham Spurs.
Well, I'm a Rangers fan who said, "Ange who?" when he turned up at Celtic, and I'm big enough to admit that we all know who he is now.
Having said that, he's being unnecessarily stubborn here: it IS a game of fine margins. Just ask all those ex-England managers who scoffed at the idea of practicing penalties if you need proof.
The way Simon simp for Spurs and Ange is cringy
Have you had a letter from city Simon? , time to keep your mouth shut.
Hes gonna need better players, well therein lies the problem Simon because your mate Daniel is not gonna pay for the best players.
Let's talk about city and the 115 or are you to scared now 😂
You'd think Ten Hag is the villain.. Impostercoglou is that villain who thinks he's a hero.. At least Ten Hag owns his arrogance
Impostercoglou thinks he's down to earth but behind the curtains he's arrogant and stubborn as hell
As are all managers it part of the job
The reason Simon always defends Levy and Spurs is becuz he sees himself in Levy being a failure and all..
Anytime he defends Levy and Spurs, he's just defending himself and mitigating for his previous failures
Say what you want but to call levy a failure seems a lil off
You guys have the best stadium in the world. They are a powerhouse in the league albeit one of the weaker ones always profitable the clubs finances are great
The difference how these pundits treat Ten Hag and "Big Ange" is hilarious. One got top three and a trophy in his first season and the other will possibly scrape 4th with no trophy in his first season. Lets see how he does in his second season!
It's interesting how Ten Hag has been branded as deluded by the media for saying "shots on goals" is of no importance (and being largely right since most those shots are low quality chances), but this is branded as brave and determined.
Might not be a silly man, but he is a silly manager and will soon find out he's better off in one of the Scandinavian leagues or Scotland.