I love these technical videos! I'm in SAE Baja, a college engineering competition designing and racing mini UTVs, and this channel is GOLD. It's so hard to find any suspension design information that isn't directly geared towards open wheel road racing, and even harder to find actual recommendations on good ranges for caster/attack angle etc!! Keep them coming! I wish I had this resource last year
@@shocktherapy8610 Please!!!!!!!! These 2 discussions on suspension geometry have been by far the most informative and easy to understand explanations of suspension geometry and how to do it right. It only took about 30 secs to earn my subscription!
I agree with Mitch, Kawasaki kind of dropped the ball on the 7th when the "new models" they introduced were accessory packages and not a turbo, a 4 seater or both. Missing huge sales, especially since that platform has sooooo much potential. And 4 seat sport machines are a super hot item right now. Hopefully they are working on something for the fall.
Excellent series, but I have a question that I have not been able to find an answer to on the net. You explained that anti-dive is implemented via the braking forces on the spindle and the anglels of the a-arms from the side view. How would inboard brakes effect this? Can anti-dive still be implemented with inboard brakes?
Short answer is No. the force being used is the top of the spindle trying to be pushed forward when the caliper applies force counteracted by the upper arm wanting to move up and rearward when compressed. This “bind” is gone when the caliper is not mounted to the spindle.
I'm wondering if the manufacturer does not consider anti dive in the design. Is that something that can be addressed through valving and spring kits? Great series guys. Love the info.
So Anti dive is only through geometry. You can affect this with more spring and low speed valving in the front to help with dive but any of these things you do through spring or shock will affect the rest of the ride quality at ALL times and not just under braking. That is why anti dive is so awesome. Only used when needed.
Many have attack angle in the lower arm mounts. Not many have anti dive. We are in the middle scanning all the front suspension on sport utvs now so we can tell you who has what in a few weeks.
Really liking the tech and info videos. Would like to see a tech video on high/low speed compression and rebound settings. Also what is rhe pros and cons of an IRS (rear A arm type) suspension.
I love these technical videos! I'm in SAE Baja, a college engineering competition designing and racing mini UTVs, and this channel is GOLD. It's so hard to find any suspension design information that isn't directly geared towards open wheel road racing, and even harder to find actual recommendations on good ranges for caster/attack angle etc!! Keep them coming! I wish I had this resource last year
Glad to help. Pass it on to the new class coming through the course!
@@ShockTherapyllc 2 years later, same school, same team, same super in depth and helpful videos
Yes keep the suspension geometry coming. Thanks...
You got it.
@@shocktherapy8610 Please!!!!!!!! These 2 discussions on suspension geometry have been by far the most informative and easy to understand explanations of suspension geometry and how to do it right. It only took about 30 secs to earn my subscription!
That dad moment he sounded sincere and disappointed.
I agree with Mitch, Kawasaki kind of dropped the ball on the 7th when the "new models" they introduced were accessory packages and not a turbo, a 4 seater or both. Missing huge sales, especially since that platform has sooooo much potential. And 4 seat sport machines are a super hot item right now. Hopefully they are working on something for the fall.
Funny thing is...Chase asks better questions than anyone calling in!
Sometimes he does pull a rabbit out of his hat.
Excellent series, but I have a question that I have not been able to find an answer to on the net. You explained that anti-dive is implemented via the braking forces on the spindle and the anglels of the a-arms from the side view. How would inboard brakes effect this? Can anti-dive still be implemented with inboard brakes?
Short answer is No. the force being used is the top of the spindle trying to be pushed forward when the caliper applies force counteracted by the upper arm wanting to move up and rearward when compressed. This “bind” is gone when the caliper is not mounted to the spindle.
Awesome explanation of anti dive
Not sure why anyone would give you a thums down ...all great stuff
I'm wondering if the manufacturer does not consider anti dive in the design. Is that something that can be addressed through valving and spring kits? Great series guys. Love the info.
So Anti dive is only through geometry. You can affect this with more spring and low speed valving in the front to help with dive but any of these things you do through spring or shock will affect the rest of the ride quality at ALL times and not just under braking. That is why anti dive is so awesome. Only used when needed.
amazing!
I alway wondered why no company put a solid axle like trophy truck at the back.
What is your take on the new Speed UTV's, from what you have seen so far?
I think they will be amazing and I can't wait. Robby called and said I am invited to their pre production testing in August, September in AZ
I have a wildcat xx, I like the suspension, works great, would just love more tunable shocks, is it possible to put different adjusters on my QS3?
IQS gives you a softer ride on soft than possible just with the regular clickers
Yes it is. You can do a dual compression adjuster swap or you can do IQs upgrade too. contact us for details and prices on both when you ready.
Do any of the sport sxs have angled upper a arm mounts like you speak of
Many have attack angle in the lower arm mounts. Not many have anti dive. We are in the middle scanning all the front suspension on sport utvs now so we can tell you who has what in a few weeks.
@@ShockTherapyllc thanks for answering I didn't realized you talked about it later in the video
Really liking the tech and info videos. Would like to see a tech video on high/low speed compression and rebound settings. Also what is rhe pros and cons of an IRS (rear A arm type) suspension.
@@ndub1257 You got it. Adjusters next Tuesday!
Awesome
What kind of oil do you run in the rzr Turbos. Could of swore I seen a guy using mobile 1. Which mobile 1.. Thanks
We use Mobile 1 10-30 full synthetic or Zmax 10-30 full synthetic.