Double wishbone suspension geometry | Designing | Calculation | Hard points | Camber vs wheel travel

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2020
  • Double wishbone is the independent type of Suspension geometry that allows each wheel to act and react independently from the others. Designing of double wishbone geometry involves various assumptions and approximations. So, here I will be covering almost all approximations involved in designing the suspension geometry. Adjusting relative angles and length of control arms, you can design a perfect suspension geometry for your vehicle. After getting all the hard points from 2d sketches, put the coordinates of these hard-points in suspension software’s , to analyse the curves of different parameters and get a suitable suspension geometry .
    In this video you will learn :-
    1) What is Double wishbone geometry?
    2) Construction, designing and calculation of Double wishbone geometry?
    3) Effect of Control arms on handling characteristics of vehicle.
    4) Study of Camber versus wheel travel Curves
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Комментарии • 58

  • @bedbudha768
    @bedbudha768 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for this amazing video. Looking forward for such insightful and informative videos.

  • @monkeseeaction21987
    @monkeseeaction21987 7 дней назад

    Excellent video. The system for defining ball joint locations is very helpful.

  • @mohammadzain6225
    @mohammadzain6225 3 года назад

    Excellent video.....very helpful

  • @aclark549
    @aclark549 3 месяца назад

    This is a great video. I appreciate the breakdown on how the dimensions are determined and explaining the assumptions required. Thank you.

  • @himanshuchaudhari338
    @himanshuchaudhari338 3 года назад +7

    Hello, the mounting of pushrod on UBJ or LBJ depends upon where the forces are maximum between the two. So can you please tell me that how do I get my maximum forces on UBJ intentionally so as to mount the pushrod on UBJ??
    P.S- Very good content as usual.

  • @simonmuncker8632
    @simonmuncker8632 3 года назад +1

    Hello, great video. I was wondering if this procedure applies to the rear suspension, I mean, is there any change if I use this method for the rear suspension? Thank you for your time :)

  • @emina4627
    @emina4627 Год назад +1

    Nice! One for McPherson would be useful too. And which textbook did you use for reference?

  • @ayoubben4721
    @ayoubben4721 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot

  • @anujawasthi6789
    @anujawasthi6789 3 года назад +2

    how about designing of upper and lower control arms?

  • @adityalonakadi1069
    @adityalonakadi1069 3 года назад +6

    Hey amazing video, it's exactly what I was looking for! Could you further explain how can we calculate the diameter of the control arms and also explain how to calculate the geometrical dimensions of the knuckle?

    • @SandeepSingh-43
      @SandeepSingh-43 3 года назад

      The control arm diameter is open for your preference. You have to consider material, and its properties, and the particular use. You also have to take into account the cost. .048" wall thickness would be a good start. After you engineered the part, then off to FEA analysis.

  • @LemonMontage420
    @LemonMontage420 2 года назад

    There is a mistake on case 2. The outer tire will gain NEGATIVE camber when the body is rolled, not positive camber, and the opposite is true for the inner wheel. This makes alot of sense if you think about it, as when you're rolling, the LBJ connection on the body on the outside wheel is going out towards the wheel while the UBJ is going inwards, making the wheel have to rotate inwards towards the body (negative camber) in order to maintain the length of the suspension arms, the opposite is true of the inner wheel

  • @akhilraj3777
    @akhilraj3777 3 года назад

    How to design double wishbone suspension with single horizontal spring damper only connecting lower wishbones

  • @Dante-ti5ii
    @Dante-ti5ii 2 года назад +7

    0.75x video speed for no brain xploding...

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful video..for designing double wishbone suspension geometry

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @utkarshgupta6578
      @utkarshgupta6578 Год назад

      Bro how to select camber, caster, roll angle , toe in , all these values for geometry

  • @utkarshgupta6578
    @utkarshgupta6578 Год назад

    How you decides the knuckle points

  • @saadshahid5118
    @saadshahid5118 Месяц назад

    can someone please explain how to get position of knucle mounting ??

  • @pavangiri9435
    @pavangiri9435 Год назад +1

    Sir how can I find svsa length
    Sir please do you help us please sir

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 2 года назад

    There is a formula for calculating the correct upper A-arm length. I read it years ago in an engineering book, but haven't been able to find it again. You start with the lower arm, built to whatever length. The height of the lower arm above the ground, the length of the lower arm, and the height of the upper arm all go into the equation. I just can't remember what functions to use or if there is other data needed. The end result is a pair of arms that produce zero scuff while giving the necessary camber gain.

    • @manojgore9235
      @manojgore9235 Год назад

      what was the book's name

    • @johnterpack3940
      @johnterpack3940 Год назад

      @@manojgore9235 I wish I could remember. That was 40 years ago.

  • @simulationspot
    @simulationspot 3 года назад

    Hey can you share the ppts it would be of great help

  • @anupgupta9572
    @anupgupta9572 7 месяцев назад

    Roll centre kaise calculate karenge?

  • @38SIDDHANTKARAMBALIM.E
    @38SIDDHANTKARAMBALIM.E 3 месяца назад

    what is exactly fvsa length and how i do i find it?

  • @priabiasa9095
    @priabiasa9095 2 года назад

    Probably I miss something, how to determine y2, y4, y5, and y6, or in other words how to find the length of upper and lower control arm?

  • @chhavitanwar138
    @chhavitanwar138 2 месяца назад

    how to implement this t in 3d software

  • @ashutoshmane7392
    @ashutoshmane7392 Месяц назад

    how to find SVSA length and angle

  • @sachinpatil4563
    @sachinpatil4563 10 месяцев назад

    Hatsoff Vatsal...You are indian Gillespie👌👌

  • @shubhamkumar7100
    @shubhamkumar7100 3 года назад +3

    Great video and explanation. can you please complete the hardpoints series.

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад

      Thank you . I have completed the hardpoints for front geometry . Check this out :- ruclips.net/video/S_GraRRbxLg/видео.html

    • @gfff503
      @gfff503 2 года назад

      @@thevatsaljain sir please reply, I have lot of confusion

  • @AruneshKashyap
    @AruneshKashyap Год назад

    How to find wheel travel

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 3 года назад

    Can you make video on h arm geometry for rear suspension .. please

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад +1

      Hello Rajendra , I am working on it. It will take time. Thanks and Stay tuned.

  • @nirmalparmar4224
    @nirmalparmar4224 3 года назад

    How to determine roll cente of trailing arm suspension?

    • @theyellow8834
      @theyellow8834 3 года назад +1

      Get the 1st axis multiplied by the 3rd significant figure and minus the velocity of travel which is around 89 degrees, get the x axis and calculate the Pythagoras tie rod to find the average swing.

  • @sachindethe3023
    @sachindethe3023 3 года назад +1

    Could you please share reference u have considered for calculation that would be useful 😊

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад +2

      The formulas and calculations were from Milliken vehicle dynamics

  • @joelgreen1475
    @joelgreen1475 3 года назад +2

    If am not using a 3D software, how do I determine the center of gravity?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад +1

      This can be useful :- ruclips.net/video/7nmYYBdhO_k/видео.html

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 3 года назад

    Please provide h arm geometry videos soon...as I am currently working on that..and I need some help

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад

      Hello Rajendra , I am working on it. It will take time. Thanks and Stay tuned.

  • @habibrehman2195
    @habibrehman2195 3 года назад +2

    How to draw the 3D geometry in solidworks?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 года назад +1

      For making 3D geometry in Solidworks, you can use option of 3D sketch from sketch toolbar.

  • @mrrandom6913
    @mrrandom6913 2 года назад

    Great video. Can you recommend a book please?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  Год назад

      Race car vehicle dynamics
      Book by William F. Milliken Jr.

  • @086_rajatpatil5
    @086_rajatpatil5 3 года назад

    I this video I dint get this to the point , for the wheel travel during the bump of 8inches and during droop if its 4 inches than how come wheel travel will be 12 inches ? Plz explain

    • @fhonethone
      @fhonethone 2 года назад

      Maybe a bit to late, but wheel travel = bump + droop = 8 + 4 = 12 inches

    • @sachinpatil4563
      @sachinpatil4563 10 месяцев назад

      This condition
      unladen to bump= 8
      Unladen to Droop(rebound) =4
      Total travel 12 inch
      This is the wheel travel for SUV

  • @Dante-ti5ii
    @Dante-ti5ii 2 года назад

    Hello, can you put the text you are saying in the video as a kind of subtitles? For non english people can be hard to understand. Thank you.

  • @086_rajatpatil5
    @086_rajatpatil5 3 года назад

    How to calculate wheel travel ?

    • @cr7savage709
      @cr7savage709 7 месяцев назад

      Did you figure it out ?

  • @MrPrime-mt8dd
    @MrPrime-mt8dd 5 месяцев назад

    bro nice content but stop talking like a robot, the continuous up and down pitch in your voice is really irritating. i know you're speaking like this so that easier for other's to understand but nah bro

  • @user-rt3lb9oq6x
    @user-rt3lb9oq6x 5 месяцев назад

    Buddy, in English we don't pronounce letter R. Improve your awful pronunciation.