I wonder if any of them are still in opperation. I remember a stitches article in the '90s that had an even older system that at that time was still in use that had pullies and ropes from the ceiling because "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" We were amazed at it at the time and were trying to figure it iut based on the picture. The Schiffli system at least has an interface on it that seemed somewhat familliar to digitizing. This other mishmosh of pullies and things seemed baffling.
Very good video, very good explained, every word is true. I'm from Germany, we started embroidery in 1991, bought the first software for 30.000,- D-Mark then. Our Mitsubishi L300 Bus was exactly the same price then. The computer with a super Graphic-card and supporting a scanner to get the Logos of our customers into the PC was 8.500.- D-Mark, the Scanner was another 1.500,- D-Mark. All prices are netto / without taxes. The monthly income of a very good skilled worker in Industry was around 1.900,- D-Mark. So the total Investment to start creating our own designs was 21 months income of a skilled and well experienced worker, just to get started with digitizing. Now we better don't mention the time it took to create a design :-) but we love our job, that's why we also paid a lot of updates, upgrades since then. With every stage of new computers starting from DOS to windows 11 the software has to be adopted. I also own Hatch and Design Doodler, very good software and fun to be creative with.
With respect to the companies who create the softwares I have to admit that the costs are outrageous and unjustified. This is really a field where I hope AI can catch up and provide as good results as with expensive softwares
Heaven forbid. The cost, as John implys, is a relative thing. Creativity of design is the last bastion of humanity. While AI can copy styles, I can't say that anyone who enjoys creating art in paints, threads or even digital expression looks forward to giving that aspect up. I can see a productivity only benefit to it, but always I enjoyed when a customer said, their design looked even better than they imagined it would or that their company logo had never looked so good before. I remember the KFC folks said that they had never before had the Colonel's face turn out in stitches at the size they requested before. That is something that meant something to me, not just turning it over to computer to figure out. I accomplished that. I remember getting a tricky design using mettalic thread to execute nicely was challenging, but to then hear that a lady that had 11 years experience at my first company - before I ever started embroidery - had told my customer it was impossible, meant something more having done it myself. I even told the customer, I'm glad she hadn't said what she had been told because I just thought there was a trick I hadn't figured out yet. (Hint: The stitches that aren't there can be just as important as those that are.)
Embroidery software reminds me of the software required for laser cutting, water cutters and other manufacturing applications. You aren’t drawing pictures, you are giving instructions a machine will use to generate the finished item.
But how we will know if we create the design correct since we can't export the design and use it in the machine?? I don't understand why many of trials they don't even have the option to export what we create....
Hatch is a Wilcom product, just not the ES version. Not sure if they purchased another software or intentionally created a different interface. A lot of the tools appear to be the same - I just wasn't around during those iterations. Is Hatch the Windows version of EDS? I don't remember what their big system was branded when I was at a company that used Wilcom. I was using the EDS system there.
I'd love to see a demonstration of the punching machines, that would be absolutely fascinating!
I wonder if any of them are still in opperation. I remember a stitches article in the '90s that had an even older system that at that time was still in use that had pullies and ropes from the ceiling because "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" We were amazed at it at the time and were trying to figure it iut based on the picture. The Schiffli system at least has an interface on it that seemed somewhat familliar to digitizing. This other mishmosh of pullies and things seemed baffling.
Very good video, very good explained, every word is true.
I'm from Germany, we started embroidery in 1991, bought the first software for 30.000,- D-Mark then. Our Mitsubishi L300 Bus was exactly the same price then. The computer with a super Graphic-card and supporting a scanner to get the Logos of our customers into the PC was 8.500.- D-Mark, the Scanner was another 1.500,- D-Mark. All prices are netto / without taxes. The monthly income of a very good skilled worker in Industry was around 1.900,- D-Mark. So the total Investment to start creating our own designs was 21 months income of a skilled and well experienced worker, just to get started with digitizing. Now we better don't mention the time it took to create a design :-) but we love our job, that's why we also paid a lot of updates, upgrades since then. With every stage of new computers starting from DOS to windows 11 the software has to be adopted. I also own Hatch and Design Doodler, very good software and fun to be creative with.
Because you’re telling it to almost fly a plane😂😂😂❤❤, love Hatch!!!! It works wonderfully!!!🎉🎉🎉
The Wilcome Ultimate Special Edition is a pretty good deal
With respect to the companies who create the softwares I have to admit that the costs are outrageous and unjustified. This is really a field where I hope AI can catch up and provide as good results as with expensive softwares
Heaven forbid. The cost, as John implys, is a relative thing. Creativity of design is the last bastion of humanity. While AI can copy styles, I can't say that anyone who enjoys creating art in paints, threads or even digital expression looks forward to giving that aspect up.
I can see a productivity only benefit to it, but always I enjoyed when a customer said, their design looked even better than they imagined it would or that their company logo had never looked so good before. I remember the KFC folks said that they had never before had the Colonel's face turn out in stitches at the size they requested before. That is something that meant something to me, not just turning it over to computer to figure out. I accomplished that. I remember getting a tricky design using mettalic thread to execute nicely was challenging, but to then hear that a lady that had 11 years experience at my first company - before I ever started embroidery - had told my customer it was impossible, meant something more having done it myself. I even told the customer, I'm glad she hadn't said what she had been told because I just thought there was a trick I hadn't figured out yet. (Hint: The stitches that aren't there can be just as important as those that are.)
Embroidery software reminds me of the software required for laser cutting, water cutters and other manufacturing applications. You aren’t drawing pictures, you are giving instructions a machine will use to generate the finished item.
The software I use for my laser machine cost me $20.
@@bluemonkeyfiedI was thinking of the big CNC machines not little laser cutters.
Good software may cost but really opens on what you can do with it .
But how we will know if we create the design correct since we can't export the design and use it in the machine?? I don't understand why many of trials they don't even have the option to export what we create....
Is Wilcom better than Hatch software?
Hatch is a Wilcom product, just not the ES version. Not sure if they purchased another software or intentionally created a different interface. A lot of the tools appear to be the same - I just wasn't around during those iterations. Is Hatch the Windows version of EDS? I don't remember what their big system was branded when I was at a company that used Wilcom. I was using the EDS system there.
Other thing that you need to take care is the facts the tech support that is required to fix the problems when use the software.
Good video thanks
I have to keep telling my students how worthy it is to buy hatch.
Wow! 54k usd?!
Yup!
It's a racket.