Is funny to think that Solomon the unparalleled grand servant raised zelrecht the one who is said to be an unparalleled mage and ritsuka who is currently said to be an unparalleled master. He is really the goat
THERE HE IS! THE GOAT! THE GOAT! Goetia was only so powerful because he was literally riding on Solomon’s corpse. Bro’s corpse is that fucking Busted. I trust that Goetia will return and help with this scaling.
Everyone on the gauntlet reaction to Solomon np (except tiamat and ORT or someone that need to be fix) be like: damn.that shit is bright..... Rest in peace
even I am Solomon main/fan. it have some diff I disagree but as you said the result is still the same Tiamat is np match up, Ars Almadel Salomonis vs immortality of Earth goddess would be interesting scene.
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Hmmm. Hard to say this one.goetia was stated to be the strongest enemy they ever faced up until the end of lb 5.5 even.and while rhongo is supirior to u olga so is goetia.and solomon far surpasses even that.10 rings had a capacity that using its prowess solomon was able to even effect the throne of heroes or give magecraft from gods to humans.he also had insane mystary.ars paulina is just a better avalon tbh.and aas is hotter than even unsealed excalibur possibly since it was stated to be recorded as the hottest thing in human history and earth.solomons magecraft negation factor is another problem intirely cause magecraft related things like skadi's magecraft wont work on him.then again his omniscience gives him a iq win factor.and his true omnipotence can create miracles even to an extent that its prowess let it effect the throne of heroes and erase himself from it.dont downplay it cause it was himself.no normal noble phantasm can even remotely access the throne.it is THE throne thats aspecial and atemporal and has qualitative transcendence over the universe itself.and exists outside the universe.so he has insane range.he also would have the 72 demon gods and goetia(non beast).even if we consider chaldean to be goetia that goetia said he could throw hands with krischaria.then theres his 72 demon gods that dont gaf if they are killed or sealed they will always come back as long as solomon exists.and goetia is immortal as long as 72 demon gods exist and vice versa.so his versatility is insane.id say he should be able to take lb6 or most of it.hed stop at lb7 or something like that.i made a solomon scale recently.he is an absolute power house.defenetly not to be underestimated.oh yeah vertually speaking solomon has infinite mana/magical energy/magical stamina so he will always win drawn out battles.he also has a great mystary.higher mystary can resist lower mystaries and even overpower them.like hassan did with tiamat.as soon as solomon died worlds mystary almost completely dropped.solomon also should know and have mastery over all the shown magecraft that isnt special family based like worm magecraft.he should have things like projection or cube magecraft desplacement or even gem magecraft etc.he can buff any of his stats to ex with magecraft and so on.he jst has almost no limits.op af ngl. oh yeah heres the scale **Attack potency**: **Transcendent**-solomon possesses Ars Almadel Salomonis which can generate a heat source powerful enough to [pierce the planet]() **Transcendent+**-with ars nova utilizing the prowess of the 10 rings solomon could [remove his information from the throne of heroes]() which holds qualitative transcendence over the universe and is an even [higher plane of existence]()which exist [beyond space and time]() outside the [universe]() and is [aspetial and atemporal]() and it consistently stated that time does not exist in it.
Hmm so other than Ort (at full power) whom do you think is gonna be stronger than him? Not taking into account Supreme God's like Vishnu,Yahwah and Buddha
Probebly oberon depending on situation or tezcatlipoca could if prime aztec empire.still not 100% certain.confirmed ones are ort.oberon can.kuku or cam migjt be able to.can be a drsw tho.alien god is a maybe.solomons powers are mysterious.even more so when hes alive so i am quite unsure.and for anyone whos gonna say otherwise alive solomon>>>alive gil
@@mridstaid414 also solomon woudnt have the full extent of that omnipotence so he could lose to maybe budha or vishnu but abrehemic god outscales by a long shot.abrehemic god is atleast on par with chaos and the outer gods.
@@KingofMagesSolomon ye Fate favours the Abrhamic religions very highly many beast class and Grand servants are from there. Also I thought Camaztoz could win since he did defeat ORT( in some way) and Kuku has the heart of Ort right? And what about Nitocris alter and Eresh Alter
You forgot Chaos who can tank ASS like its nothing. Moreover Solomon was mentioned to be a counter to goetia, he himself hasn't shown feats bcz his entire legend is about him only using the ring once. And that one time use was to send them back. Speaking of goetia nega summon, only np of summoned heroic spirit can be cancelled. Lb kings are not heroic spirits, hes gona take dmg. Moreover if hes immortal inside his temple all his oponnent need to do is get him out of the temple and voila. Pretty sure a lot of the characters in the list are capable of that.
A bit correction about his reality marble Ars Paulina (The Temple of time). It is not that He is Immortal inside the temple, it is that He will be revived in the temple anytime that He died. The temple in essentially his respawn point, that allows him to keep reviving so long as his reality marble still exist. So, you need to destroy this reality marble if you truly wants to kill Solomon. And this is no easy feat cause Da Vinci mentions herself that Solomon Reality marble is big as a universe.
Isnt tiamat one technically a tie at best.i get where your coming from.solomon probebly does not have anything to beat tiamat but its the same vice versa.tiamat has nothing to get past solomons immortality and hax🤔.id say that one would be a tie
Its true, so i decided the winner based on who have is stronger even tho they cant kill each other Solomon ASS is stated can rival and destroy Tiamat nega Genesis but Thats it, and Tiamat can recreated the sea of life in a sec So it clear who is stronger between these two...
@@ghanialter7103it was stated to be capable of destroying her whole sea of life which considering that her sea is considered a part of her it includes herself. But she can simply revive herself or if she is sane can just teleport out of the way or just re manifest to the timeline like she already had done. And since solomon is mortal all it takes a few thousands of years to beat him or just continue tanking and dodging AAS till he dies from old age due to this being prime solomon. But this is all considering that solomon would be evil enough to force his familiar to incinerate all of human history to make aas op.
@@s.m.farzana6072Tiamat can recreated sea of life in a sec While Goetia...well....If we said He have infinite mana(which is not), okay then, but the prep time itself need a lot of time about 3 minutes
Also he doesn't have full control Jinn are very trolls in a sense sure they can tell you a lot but they sort of mix their truth with lies when we talk about black magic these jinns are the source of black magic someone like Helena the 4 star caster in the game has made many predictions which were very accurate but also many which were entirely false if you look into her history she was heavily into black magic as I said jinns love trolls on that case jinns on average are neutral they are like another species made from matter naked to human eyes but they can see us there are nice jinns and bad even good ifrits exist but the good ones don't manifest in our space since it's a sin oh and jinns can take form of humans and animals it is also noted that even some animal's can see that if you think about it it's pretty scary but don't be scared lmao 💀 according to God we are better than them or more specifically best of his creation
More on Solomon he might have been the strongest Prophet I mean look at prophet David also Solomon made a wish to God to not give this much strength to any other prophet he had complete control over wind could talk to animals and yes the most broken of all the command over jinns
Yo my man dont mean to be disrespectful but how about you read LB7 before you make another one of these? You are out of your mind if you think Solomon mid diff Camazotz who by definition defeated ORT. The only reason why Camazotz lost against us was because he lost his immortality by remembering his past. Goetia said the real Solomon would've been able to stop him. This is correct since you know Solomon kinda owns everything Goetia had lol(excluding AAS since Goetia gained it AFTER Solomon's death) this doesnt mean Solomon is 50x stronger than Goetia. Solomon highballed is a bit stronger than Goetia and lowballed is weaker since Goetia gained AAS and Beast buff after his death
Lets be real for a moment, Musashi would hold her own quite well. She was a member of the anti Kaos team and the one who ultimately pushed it back. Kaos might I add is the strongest character in FGO. Saber Artoria and Gilgamesh as typical as it is would also do well. Avalon negates anything except Nova which at works means Saber ties with him and Solomon is by no means fast enough or strong enough to pop that before being rushed by a full power close combat excalibur blast. Also Gil has the firepower to counter the 72 demons of Goetia and the EA to counter the reality marble. Again, Solomon does not have counters to these 3 characters.
@@ghanialter7103 ASS? Also Nega Summon was an ability used by Goetia who stated he had it because he was the Supreme summoning spell. There is no evidence Solomon has that power. Even If he does, it doesn't mean he can pull Saber from Avalon. Your assuming here that people are at full power yes? If so then those would be real Artoria with Rhongomyniad and Excalibur, Prydwen and Avalon. Full power Gilgamesh has Ea, Enkidu, a ship that is faster than light. Solomon has no counters for any of these.
Holmes said Arjuna Walter's Mahapralaya is pretty much on Arms almadel level in his lostbelt and not even Mash would able to swallow up that attack. Let that sink in. Not to mention Rama, Scathach, Enkidu, Quetz, Dantes and Nero were one of the last few servants who endured waves after waves of his attacks and held their own in CQC. Let all that sink in.
Yes, did you see Mash literally died because of ASS too? Mahapralaya only effective inside His lostbelt and it never shown or stated to be able to attack others While ASS can be deployed from outside of space and time
@@ghanialter7103 still doesn't make it enough for Goetia to power creep the lostbelt kings from Surtr onwards. They're serious threats to him to. At least mid difficulty each and every one of them. Prime Solomon is just a tad bit stronger nothing more. That is the truth. One thing is simping and the other is understanding the truth.
Sefar, Olga, KuKu, Amaterasu all beat him. Solomon dealing easily with Goetia is a compatibility thing and even then Goetia doesn't hold a candle to any of these guys
@@altirius Ars Paulina Sefar cluld tank ASS is debatable since it cant tank a unknown seals of Excalibur, Kuku struggle againts ninkigal even when they fought in mid Air, Tezcatlipoca Pierce through Olga heart so i cant see she have a high Tier durability, amaterasu also dient really have any high Tier devensive and immortal negates hax
@@ghanialter7103 As far as I know, the power of Excalibur was sealed by Artoria/Arthur Pendragon, so the Excalibur used against Sefar had no seals and the Excalibur seals only existed several years after Sefar's death.
@@ghanialter7103 aas is infinitely inferior to unsealed excalibur, it is said that aas is equivalent to millions of attacks from a sealed excalibur morgan
He has Ars Paulina who make him immortal, Ars Almadel Solomonis i believe also can destroy the insect of abyss due it stated to able to destroy Tiamat sea of life None of em here can tank ASS
Let me explain.its mostly cause his 1 rings omnpotence is busted.his 10 rings gives him so much range he can acess throne of heroes which is beyond infinite distance.he can probebly easily escape insect of the abyss. goetia is directly stated to be the strongest enemy faced by chaldea till lb 5.5 even.including zeus or u olga.morgan magecraft gets cancalled.kuku cant get past solomons immortality and hax.
@@ghanialter7103 Also remember, Solomon can use and disable all magic and magecraft that humanity ever use. (This is one the Ten rings ability) The only exception is Magic that was made from Gods, but because almost all Magic and magecraft comes humanity. So He can literally almost use any magecraft, and in theory also included True Magic because humanity did achived it.
@@Patrick-tg6wmid say true magic is also exceprion.magic and magecraft are fundamentally completely different.their very fundamental source is not the same.magic is more like miracles than anything.they dont count among magecraft ngl
@@KingofMagesSolomon Yeah, that's why i say in theory. The reason i think so it because Humanity itself did achive it. With Zelretch, and Aoko being the known one. So in theory, Solomon should be able to use True Magic. Tho, this could be wrong if there other limitation that i don't know.
Depends if you think Persona scales to SMT (which I would agree with due to multiverse) If it does then Joker could probably wipe since he killed Yaldabaoth who existed on a plane of existence that transcended the concept of Dimensions and later beat Adam Kadmon who Morgana said was "on another level" with support from the Phantom Thieves
Thats not all Goetia said, Prime Solomon would easily beat him All of Goetia Power is from Solomon nine Rings so basically all goetia can do, Solomon can also do it but better Grand Time Temple is owned by Solomon that exsist outside of space and time He was the master/mentor of zelrech (idk If i spell His Name right) who is one of the strongest magus And more...
He won't be able to do anything with Doman, not only is he incredibly difficult to kill, but he's also the best wizard. Oberon has no weaknesses and can ignore all human laws
Solomon immortal....thus douman cant kill him, "best wizard", well...Solomon is the first Mages, He even is a mentor for zelrech "Oberon has no weaknesses and can Ignore human laws", well....Solomon hax is given by the gods so its no a human laws....
@@ghanialter7103 Why? Doman influenced the universe and interacted with it. Based on his magical arsenal, he has a variety of tools to win. In fact, I want to say that it is impossible to choose a winner here, they are both high magicians. Probably the alien god was afraid of him. I suppose it's an impossible task to impose your rules on him
@@Feilong22 you know what? You are the very first person to actually defend douman.. But okay... Douman doesnt have immortality, thus He can died, If He is immortal and all of your statement is right then why did He loses? Solomon temple/Ars paulina exsist outside space and time so it means He literally live above universes level Ars Almadel Solomonis also can rewrite the world and Its a huge threat to humanity, douman is still a human so He got a disadvantage
@@ghanialter7103 Well, many people don't like Doman for his actions, but as a villain he coped with his role perfectly. There were many reasons why he lost and did not become a beast, but these reasons were imposed by the plot. Without trying to make him lose under the influence of the plot, he can endlessly create his own clones (equal to him in strength and abilities), can cancel magic directed at him personally. And this is a small part of what he does The fact that he is human is very controversial, he is closer to a demon. There are two gods and an evil spirit in him
@@Feilong22 well...i like him (please don't misunderstood my word) And yes he is a demon but His original self is a human, so i believe He still have human trait on him thus He got disadvantage to ASS
I Mean....Mélusine could damage the insect of abyss even if she need to do a kamikaze And did you think Solomon ASS couldnt Scratch the insect? It can, clearly
@@ghanialter7103 i mean from inside insect of the abyss even castoria who is counter of oberon and stronger than melusine cannot do anything to go outside soo i think solomon only win if he didnt get sucked inside
@@overknightsyt5495 and did you think a literally 1 vs 1 debate fight of oberon vs solomon will start inside the insect of abyss? Thats unfair Oberon need to swallow His opponent First, its not like the opponent out of nowhere got transported to the inside of the abyss.... I ask you this then... Could oberon tank a ASS, i Mean ASS who already touch him?
Not really, I bet they cant even reach Solomon throne, they need to pass through 72 demon gods plus Goetia that were immortal as long as Solomon still alive....
I think I'd give it to Arthur Pendragon actually depending on how many seals are undone. If it's a true prime Solomon vs true prime Arthur Pendragon (no seals) I think Arthur is taking it.
@@ghanialter7103 Like... I'd consider it at best high diff either way. Prime Solomon as it stands is pretty featless and the only thing we have is 2 seals released arthur being stupid OP in the arcade game with all seals released arthur being featless and just stated to be stupid OP. Also think that prime Camazotz and Tezcalipoca could probably win too. Prime Camazotz had enough power to stop prime ORT who would absolutely beat Solomon. Tezcalipoca as his proper Grand Servant self is way more up in the air as we only have a statement saying prime Tezcalipoca could beat Camazotz and ORT. But I'd at least say it's going to be another high diff either way. Still an argument on what could be the strongest character in verse (Arthur with plot) being a high difficulty win speaks to how absurdly broken Prime Solomon is. The moment we're comparing to ORT (even in his FAR weakened state) being probably one of the only characters that could soundly win against him he's gotten to broken tier.
@@aermikExcalibur couldn't even scratch ORT, heck I would say not even slash emperor to be honest Also no, tezcatlipoca doesn't beat camazotz let alone ORT Arthur with all seals unlocked would probably be Grand Servant level, Prime solomon could be argued for top 5 in the verse
@@prasant6533 Nah I swore that in the arcade Proto Arthur just one shots ORT. Or maybe it was 2 seals Arthur one shots one of the beasts? I forgot which. Also Tezcatlipoca stated in his prime he could take down Camazotz prime who was on par with ORT. But yes, it is just a statement and we don't have anything to back it up until we finally get true grand berserker Tezcatlipoca. I don't think he's lying though. Arthur no seals is like Void Shiki. Featless but Nasu gives them all the powers the plot needs them to have. Reason why I could see the argument for 0 seals Arthur at the very least being extreme diff.
i dissagree with the diffecultis and i think higt hier lb7 characters like eresh, kuku and olga are at least high diff and camazoptz beats him. there i just no feat that puts solomon above camazotz imo but very good video solomon is op.(I also dont think any character form earth will surpass camazotz in streang for a while)
Camazotz will never can kill Solomon Nor the rest of 72 Demon gods (including goetia) Camazotz also can be killed, His immortality is not as top Tier as Tiamat and Solomon immortality Eresh and Kuku doesnt have a DC that able to wipe off all of 72 Demon gods at once, so they must be take several hit from the demon gods who each attack can easily kill top Tier servant such as scathach They also didnt have a great endurance to stay fight in a very very long time
camazotz was heavily weakened when fighting in lb7 due to creating the alters and being mentally insane, Anubis was also a perfect counter to Cam and he didn't actually lose he gave up because he thought he had done enough for his world. he also has way better stamina than Solomon and his immortality made him able to survive everything ort threw at him and ort is way above Solomon in power. He still has the best immortality in the vers as long as he doesn't give up. plus Solomon can't summon Goetia because he got created after Solomons's death so he doesn't count, and he can only use ars almadel solomonis once and it wont be able to kill Camazotz@@ghanialter7103
@@ghanialter7103I'm curious about Eresh though? I thought after reading LB7 and seeing how she can control all those legs of gugalanna along with her constant authority of the underworld that she would be able to at least deal with the demon pillars including Goetia.
@@ghanialter7103I disagree with camazotz. It was literally stated even if the planet was destroyed he would still live. Plus that dude raw power pierce through ort heart and we all know ort only lose to one person and that is camazotz
@@syamilfaiz1189 yes but Camazotz can die, i mean...we actually defeated him alongside with nitoalter Ort also didnt die againts camazotz Kukulkan one shoot Ort too...
Arthur, Camazotz, Kuku, Eresh Alter > WOB scales as the 1st planetary class and is one of the 2 strongest beasts we've seen so far. Arthur destroyed Excalibur by simply opening its 13 seals. Camazotz single-handedly ripped out the heart of ORT. Kuku destroyed ORT Xibalba with only last sun Xibalba, and Eresh Alter states that he destroyed ORT's body without difficulty and could fight Sefar alone. Solomon has no feats or Hax to resist them.
Solomon is the strongest mage in the entire verse, He knows all 5 types of magic in the verse and if you know how absurdly busted the 2nd magic is then you'll surely change your opinion.
@@ghanialter7103 Solomon isn't "low-diffing" the Shinto god who's basically the chief deity of their pantheon, one who could harness energy from the sun for being a solar divinity, which is also akin to being categorized as a cosmic god for that matter, and a being who has raw power equal to that of Sefar's. Besides, Sefar is the natural enemy of intelligent lifeforms, god or not, due to her conceptual advantage of anti-civilization. Naturally, Amaterasu as a singular god will clearly be at a disadvantage compared to a fused Zeus who has the power of an entire pantheon with multiple authorities. So, her defeat against such an opponent doesn't really translate well to how far she could scale.
Dude he was the first mage in the entire verse, knows all 5 types of magic. He is the master of a guy who has literally defeated Type-Moon. That's enough evidence already.
Uhm no.he beats zeus easily.literally goetia is stronger than zeus.morgan magecraft gets cancalled by him and rhongo might be stronger than lb5 u olga or zeus but its still relevant to goetia then.and solomons far stronger.10 rings allows miracles like effecting throne of heroes.hes quite easily escaping the infinite distance of insct of abyss.kuku doesnt have anything to get past ars paulina his immortality 72 dmon gods immortality etc.pure strength or power dosnt help if your enemy is hax based and has insane hax
@@KingofMagesSolomon10 rings allows him to give all his magecraft back to God that basically revokes all his achievements and give sit all back to God removing him from the throne of spirits. If kuku and solomon fight it will all be dependent on kukus np spamming skills , np strength and stamina since solomons familiars cannot hurt her significantly due to her being able to one shot divine spirit that no sell attacks that kill divine or incapacitate divine spirit. And if we interpret kukus bonk as equal to aas then solomon dies not from unga bunga but from old age due to it being an endless fight and alive solomon Is you know a human with a human life span. But solomon could win by ordering his familiar(goetia) to add more aas bands of light and nuke kuku and I am atleast expecting he can't incinerate himself from the heat. So he wins but with mid diff. Camazotz might be able to outlast him tho if I take his immortality to the absolute maximum interpretation.
You overestimate salomon.😅 How can Salomon beat Kukulkan? Camazotz ? U-Olga Marie ? Beni-ema Alter? Ereshkigal Alter who can beat sephar? And Tiamat? Goetia???? And you said that ORT take that with mid difficulty? 🤨 Is very false!!!!
There is no false or True cause there is no an actual answer for that... Kuku, U Olga, Beni Enma, Eresh Alter cant kill Solomon or bypass Solomon immortality Camazotz also doesnt have hax who can bypass and absolute immortality like Solomon or Tiamat Goetia stated Solomon would easily beat him If He was at His Prime And i never say Tiamat lose againts Solomon
@@ghanialter7103 the reason why goetia loses against solomon ten rings is because goetia is a human magecraft, and the ten rings give control of all human magecraft, in addition, is mentioned in fate/grand order material that goetia king of man surpassed king solomon.
@@ghanialter7103 solomon doesn't have any feat to beat someone like arjuna alter or zeus, you can try to argue that goetia is said to be superior to alien god, but that's a translation error and even arjuna alter is stated in fgo HP to be above goetia
@@ghanialter7103 Solomon also has no way of killing them. Immortal does not mean invincible. It's not because we can't kill him that he wins and I don't think that Kukukkan can't destroy Ars Paulina since his noble fantasy is anti-world. Camazotz has the greatest immortality in Fate even ORT can't kill him how many times Solomon? And then Camazotz is astronomically stronger than him.
So little correction for some people Solomon is op yes but not in the category of the best Reasons 1)demon pillars are kinda overrated a base Arjuna was able to kill 28 with his NP so it's not like they are unkillable Some NP's can destroy 72 demon pillars pretty easily EA(can kill tiamat in her weakened state who can summon 11 lahmu who are on par with demon pillars and they also have way less durability than her if merlin can match them then Gil's EA destroys),quetz's NP (can destroy the sea of life which was said to only able to be destroyed by the bands of light. this does not mean EA can't do the same because EA was unknown till that point) any other NP close to these NPs can destroy 72 demon pillars pretty easily 2)ars almadel Salomnis Let's be honest goetia's ars almadel salomnis is probably stronger than solomon's as goetia had 3000 years worth of magical energy in it and it was also stated that it is something that solomon cannot achieve so how strong is solomon's ars almadel salomnis is currently unknown and this means his power has to be considered hypothetically. 3) ars paulina is no exception to a reality marble and anyone who can destroy a reality marble like EA,quetz,goetia can destroy ars paulina it is stated goetia and solomon are invincible but not ars paulina which makes them invincible so solomon is not entirely invincible 4)he has literally no durability feats his shield got broken by few punches from goetia which can barely harm quetz so he is kind of a glass Cannon. Y'all remember I never said he/she can beat solomon in a battle I am just saying he is nkt unkillable and not as strong as y'all think he is but still he is the strongest grand. (maybe except ort) I won't be debating about this seems kinda boring to debate about. That's just my opinion so there is no reason for anyone to get angery on this.
It can be destroyed but cant be killed since they will return back from the death (immortal) Also Gilgamesh EA never kill Tiamat even in her Weakened, Holding back, underworld+concept of death debuff, cause She just got send to the void and then resummon herself as alter Ego Class...
@@ghanialter7103 yes but their immortality comes from ars Paulina which can destroyed by EA or anyother NP like EA Yes he didn't kill her but he destroy her body which is something no one else there could have done
@@KingofHeroesGilgamesh then why Gilgamesh didnt blast His EA in the first place in Solomon singularity? One answer, EA cant do it Destroying Tiamat body is not a impresive feats after what they do to her, She also holding back, didnt use any Defensive, doesnt resist, and furthermore She let then to kill herself after fujimaru talk to her
@@ghanialter7103 yes there are reasons for all. first EA needs the amount of mana That isn't possible for ritsuka to give. And Gil instead of using EA had given his mana to ritsuka to summon other servants Don't know how destroying tiamat's body isn't a good feat as all the others even after trying could only manage to cut off her wing even ars almadel Salomonis has never been stated to destroy tiamat's body maybe her wings but never her body. Yes ritsuka did ask her to give up but he didn't say "decrease your durability" she was the same tiamat but stopped attacking and even when she did try to kill Gilgamesh it did nothing to him. By simple scaling Ars almadel Salomonis can destroy the sea of life, quetz's NP destroyed the sea of life with 30% authority (so around 60% authority quetz's NP would be equal to if not stronger than ars almadel Salomonis) Gil destroyed tiamat including the sea of life (the sea of life exists in her body) So by scaling EA's feat of destroying tiamat's body doesn't seem to be that bad,does it ?
Eh, idk man, some of these are pretty incorrect U-Olga has a stellar class saint graph, meaning her power is star level, which is completely out of Solomon's league Castoria has 12 Unsealed Excalibur's, a single one is capable of killing Sefar who is stellar class Lie Like Vortigern is stated to exceed a black hole in danger, a black hole is beyond stellar class which is obviously outside of Solomon's weight level Ninkigal literally beat ORT If Arthur and Artoria had their weapons unsealed they would win as they can kill stellar class people
Do you know about zelretch? The guy who supposedly single handedly defeated Type Moon ( Arguably the strongest Type in the entire Nasuverse ) with his second magic and guess what? Solomon was the master of zelretch.
Stellar class =/= strength of a star it only refers to the amount of magical energy produced by the Saint graph. Saint graph magical energy =/= strength either as Amaterasu has 387,420,489 and stage 7 Sefar has 300,000,000. And Amaterasu did worse against her than ares who couldn’t even touch her. Kama who can destroy and affect any amount of universes as an incomplete beast and is weaker than Arjuna alter, and the complete beasts, but because her Saint graph is not even satellite class. Arthur and artoria could possibly but clairvoyance he can see the attack the moment the Excalibur is created, go to temple of time and then if they are summoned as servants just unsummon them. AAS can affect Avalon but Excalibur cannot relinquish the temple of time.
@@prasant6533 Per WoG AE has all of Type: Moon's power, since AE is also 100% Arc and has Gaia's power AE is Type: Moon+Red Arc (maybe stronger than Red Arc)+Gaia
Nah , starting from godjuna till kuku it's just no diff , or low diff 🤷 , don't say neg that's just BS Edit: wow hassan on low diff while these lb kings not? Lmao , agreed till lb kings and then suddenly surtr not on neg whike godjuna us 💀💀 lmao Kuku>zeus100≥godjuna>morgan>>surtr and the rest 💀💀🤣
Its true tho, godjuna NP will never can affect grand Time Temple, Zeus also defeated by a black Barrel empowered by quirinus mana, Morgan attacks also cant affect GTT She also doenst have any Defensive to Tank ASS, KuKu also struggle againts ninkigal while in her Domain (mid Air), She also didnt have any top Tier Defensive Capabilities to Tank ASS
@@ghanialter7103 GODJUNA np scales universally without the wall of light and he can destroy the world and recreate it and change the texture of lb every week 💀 morgan did it like once using even the lb trees power but zeus can't AND YOU PUT SURTR OF LOW DIFF??!!while zeus and godjuna on neg?!? Bro what? , Hassan too?? , godjuna has the best defence among the lb kings I'd say with his AUTHORITIES and all , but shouldn't they be on no diff , to low diff instead of surtr and Hassan?! 💀
@@ghanialter7103 no And yet surtr Hassan on low ?!! 💀 godjuna is capable of far more and is one of the strongest kings , him and zeus being in neg diff while surtr and Hassan on low is just bs absolute bs 💀
@@gilpendrago Like i said there is some servant i change the diff Godjuna and Zeus i change it to no diff And king Hassan, yes... He have a Insane endurance also His Basic attack able to kill three new Offspring Lahmu who is Equal to one demon God pillar each, He can also Teleport quite far, so He possibly can backstabbed Solomon (very low chance, since Solomon can See through future and have EX clairvoyance), but yeah...even tho He succed, His Attack will never can break through Solomon barier One Ring Weakened Solomon barier can tank 20+ goetia Serious punches
@@ghanialter7103 yeah but Hassan ain't even godjuna level , 💀 like godjuna clears him EX clairvoyance, godjuna has it too wym? Normal arjuna took out like 20 or more demon god pillars, we see Hassan struggling and even using his teeths against the lahmu 💀💀 , godjuna and zeus should be higher than morgan and Hassan tho
Solomon can definitely beat most fo the servants, but he isn't beating LB kings, we only able to beat only weakened skadi, while QSH was grand level. And he is definitely getting OS by Zeus and AA, they are gods and have authorities and access to divine magics while solomon using magecraft. Kukulkan will oneshot him, she is heart of ort, there is no way Solomon doing anything to her
I can agree that Solomon is stronger than other of the grand servants and beasts. But KukuOrt is a different level. I'm afraid he can't even beat Abigail. And many other foreigners
![[FGO NA] My Hardest Solo Ever - Enshrined Diety Cernunnos - First Ever King Hassan Solo 8T](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qdN3lq7r0rA/mqdefault.jpg)
Is funny to think that Solomon the unparalleled grand servant raised zelrecht the one who is said to be an unparalleled mage and ritsuka who is currently said to be an unparalleled master. He is really the goat
100/102 is insane, congrats to the OG grand caster
THERE HE IS! THE GOAT! THE GOAT! Goetia was only so powerful because he was literally riding on Solomon’s corpse. Bro’s corpse is that fucking Busted. I trust that Goetia will return and help with this scaling.
Goetia can't do 1 spell basically solomon strongest spell itself Ars Nova
Everyone on the gauntlet reaction to Solomon np (except tiamat and ORT or someone that need to be fix) be like: damn.that shit is bright..... Rest in peace
Yes, only for both of em
The rest, none of em is capable to Tank ASS
@@ghanialter7103 I'm surprise you're dont add my top 1 fav servant to the gauntlet
@@Therejoicepriest697 wait, who?
@@ghanialter7103 No pls no pls I beg of you.i don't her to get slaughtered
@@ghanialter7103 I'm not gonna say it because on the next gauntlet I will be triggered
The strongest magus in nasuverse
Another day another overkill from the goat 🐐
even I am Solomon main/fan. it have some diff I disagree but as you said the result is still the same
Tiamat is np match up, Ars Almadel Salomonis vs immortality of Earth goddess would be interesting scene.
There is some servant who i change my mind about the difficulty but the result is still the same anyway
Tiamat deserve respect thanks for giving her 😅😅
Do atroria pendragon saber running gauntlet
I think Eresh alter could be argued mid diff at least. And camazotz maybe extreme diff.
You forgot the a few like Draco and Charlemagne
@@jannatulferdosh1428Unsealed Avalon Artoria Pendragon*
Cause regular saber ain’t getting far-
I love this edit ❤❤❤
My Anime Rogues Gallery List :
1.Saber Artoria Pendragon The King Of Knights
2.Lancer Scathach The Queen Of The Land Of Shadows
3.Rider Medusa The Gorgon
4.Saber Altera The White Titan
5.Caster Tamamo No Mae The Nine Tailed Fox
6.Rider Quetzalcoatl The Sun Deity
7.Saber Miyamoto Musashi The Legendary Samurai
8.Berserker Minamoto No Raikou The Mad Oni
Hmmm.
Hard to say this one.goetia was stated to be the strongest enemy they ever faced up until the end of lb 5.5 even.and while rhongo is supirior to u olga so is goetia.and solomon far surpasses even that.10 rings had a capacity that using its prowess solomon was able to even effect the throne of heroes or give magecraft from gods to humans.he also had insane mystary.ars paulina is just a better avalon tbh.and aas is hotter than even unsealed excalibur possibly since it was stated to be recorded as the hottest thing in human history and earth.solomons magecraft negation factor is another problem intirely cause magecraft related things like skadi's magecraft wont work on him.then again his omniscience gives him a iq win factor.and his true omnipotence can create miracles even to an extent that its prowess let it effect the throne of heroes and erase himself from it.dont downplay it cause it was himself.no normal noble phantasm can even remotely access the throne.it is THE throne thats aspecial and atemporal and has qualitative transcendence over the universe itself.and exists outside the universe.so he has insane range.he also would have the 72 demon gods and goetia(non beast).even if we consider chaldean to be goetia that goetia said he could throw hands with krischaria.then theres his 72 demon gods that dont gaf if they are killed or sealed they will always come back as long as solomon exists.and goetia is immortal as long as 72 demon gods exist and vice versa.so his versatility is insane.id say he should be able to take lb6 or most of it.hed stop at lb7 or something like that.i made a solomon scale recently.he is an absolute power house.defenetly not to be underestimated.oh yeah vertually speaking solomon has infinite mana/magical energy/magical stamina so he will always win drawn out battles.he also has a great mystary.higher mystary can resist lower mystaries and even overpower them.like hassan did with tiamat.as soon as solomon died worlds mystary almost completely dropped.solomon also should know and have mastery over all the shown magecraft that isnt special family based like worm magecraft.he should have things like projection or cube magecraft desplacement or even gem magecraft etc.he can buff any of his stats to ex with magecraft and so on.he jst has almost no limits.op af ngl.
oh yeah heres the scale
**Attack potency**:
**Transcendent**-solomon possesses Ars Almadel Salomonis which can generate a heat source powerful enough to [pierce the planet]()
**Transcendent+**-with ars nova utilizing the prowess of the 10 rings solomon could [remove his information from the throne of heroes]() which holds qualitative transcendence over the universe and is an even [higher plane of existence]()which exist [beyond space and time]() outside the [universe]() and is [aspetial and atemporal]() and it consistently stated that time does not exist in it.
Hmm so other than Ort (at full power) whom do you think is gonna be stronger than him? Not taking into account Supreme God's like Vishnu,Yahwah and Buddha
Probebly oberon depending on situation or tezcatlipoca could if prime aztec empire.still not 100% certain.confirmed ones are ort.oberon can.kuku or cam migjt be able to.can be a drsw tho.alien god is a maybe.solomons powers are mysterious.even more so when hes alive so i am quite unsure.and for anyone whos gonna say otherwise
alive solomon>>>alive gil
@@mridstaid414 also solomon woudnt have the full extent of that omnipotence so he could lose to maybe budha or vishnu but abrehemic god outscales by a long shot.abrehemic god is atleast on par with chaos and the outer gods.
@@KingofMagesSolomon ye Fate favours the Abrhamic religions very highly many beast class and Grand servants are from there. Also I thought Camaztoz could win since he did defeat ORT( in some way) and Kuku has the heart of Ort right? And what about Nitocris alter and Eresh Alter
Bro just pull out a whole data....
Yeaaaaaaaah part 2 !!!!!
You forgot Chaos who can tank ASS like its nothing. Moreover Solomon was mentioned to be a counter to goetia, he himself hasn't shown feats bcz his entire legend is about him only using the ring once. And that one time use was to send them back. Speaking of goetia nega summon, only np of summoned heroic spirit can be cancelled. Lb kings are not heroic spirits, hes gona take dmg. Moreover if hes immortal inside his temple all his oponnent need to do is get him out of the temple and voila. Pretty sure a lot of the characters in the list are capable of that.
A bit correction about his reality marble Ars Paulina (The Temple of time). It is not that He is Immortal inside the temple, it is that He will be revived in the temple anytime that He died. The temple in essentially his respawn point, that allows him to keep reviving so long as his reality marble still exist. So, you need to destroy this reality marble if you truly wants to kill Solomon. And this is no easy feat cause Da Vinci mentions herself that Solomon Reality marble is big as a universe.
Even with the wisdom of god he still died as a human
Akhirnya karakter kesukaanku Solomon
Actually, i just feel that if the bell rings, hassan wins,if it dosent solomen wins
Wadya say
Isnt tiamat one technically a tie at best.i get where your coming from.solomon probebly does not have anything to beat tiamat but its the same vice versa.tiamat has nothing to get past solomons immortality and hax🤔.id say that one would be a tie
Its true, so i decided the winner based on who have is stronger even tho they cant kill each other
Solomon ASS is stated can rival and destroy Tiamat nega Genesis but Thats it, and Tiamat can recreated the sea of life in a sec
So it clear who is stronger between these two...
@@ghanialter7103And solomon can use aas again and again like spam.he has infinite mana.so he can constantly destroy the sea of life lol
@@ghanialter7103it was stated to be capable of destroying her whole sea of life which considering that her sea is considered a part of her it includes herself.
But she can simply revive herself or if she is sane can just teleport out of the way or just re manifest to the timeline like she already had done.
And since solomon is mortal all it takes a few thousands of years to beat him or just continue tanking and dodging AAS till he dies from old age due to this being prime solomon.
But this is all considering that solomon would be evil enough to force his familiar to incinerate all of human history to make aas op.
@@s.m.farzana6072Tiamat can recreated sea of life in a sec
While Goetia...well....If we said He have infinite mana(which is not), okay then, but the prep time itself need a lot of time about 3 minutes
You should do Type arcuied against the fgo verse.
Just to clarify, Arcueid is not a Type, Earth doesn't have a Ultimate one which is why Gaia had to forge a contract with Crimson Moon
@@prasant6533 so she's more like a pseudo type for earth? An unofficial type?
@@Nthdegree2 its known Archetype Earth in FGO
Accurate lore
Bro do CCC Gil
W edit
Next song-sweater weather plz 😊
Solomon(pbuh) is considered as a prophet in Islam. And he is said to have command over jinns.
That's why he is so busted 🔥🔥
@@mridstaid414 you a Muslim?
To clarify jinn includes Satan and many other powerful than him do what will with that info
Also he doesn't have full control Jinn are very trolls in a sense sure they can tell you a lot but they sort of mix their truth with lies when we talk about black magic these jinns are the source of black magic someone like Helena the 4 star caster in the game has made many predictions which were very accurate but also many which were entirely false if you look into her history she was heavily into black magic as I said jinns love trolls on that case jinns on average are neutral they are like another species made from matter naked to human eyes but they can see us there are nice jinns and bad even good ifrits exist but the good ones don't manifest in our space since it's a sin oh and jinns can take form of humans and animals it is also noted that even some animal's can see that if you think about it it's pretty scary but don't be scared lmao 💀 according to God we are better than them or more specifically best of his creation
More on Solomon he might have been the strongest Prophet I mean look at prophet David also Solomon made a wish to God to not give this much strength to any other prophet he had complete control over wind could talk to animals and yes the most broken of all the command over jinns
So Solomon(prime) if he fights Whore of Babylon, will he win or not?(Sorry for my bad English)
I disagreed with a few things on the Gilgamesh one but this is all facts
Solomon is just built different
Gilgamesh?
Really?
He is indeed very Overrated....
@@ghanialter7103what? No i meant your Gilgamesh VIDEO. He won too MANY match ups
Solomon stomps him
@@l30ng62 oh yeah my bad
Nah solomons gonna cook all of em.Though do you scale Artoria Avalon and the Lostbelts boss above him?
Check my comment if anyone wants more info.im a massive solomon fan so been researching his stuff for a while now
@@KingofMagesSolomon could you just send the whole thing about solomon on youtube ?
Yo my man dont mean to be disrespectful but how about you read LB7 before you make another one of these? You are out of your mind if you think Solomon mid diff Camazotz who by definition defeated ORT. The only reason why Camazotz lost against us was because he lost his immortality by remembering his past.
Goetia said the real Solomon would've been able to stop him. This is correct since you know Solomon kinda owns everything Goetia had lol(excluding AAS since Goetia gained it AFTER Solomon's death) this doesnt mean Solomon is 50x stronger than Goetia.
Solomon highballed is a bit stronger than Goetia and lowballed is weaker since Goetia gained AAS and Beast buff after his death
Do Oberon or Alcides next
Lets be real for a moment, Musashi would hold her own quite well. She was a member of the anti Kaos team and the one who ultimately pushed it back. Kaos might I add is the strongest character in FGO. Saber Artoria and Gilgamesh as typical as it is would also do well. Avalon negates anything except Nova which at works means Saber ties with him and Solomon is by no means fast enough or strong enough to pop that before being rushed by a full power close combat excalibur blast. Also Gil has the firepower to counter the 72 demons of Goetia and the EA to counter the reality marble. Again, Solomon does not have counters to these 3 characters.
@@roanewakeman9031 nega summon and ASS
@@ghanialter7103 ASS?
Also Nega Summon was an ability used by Goetia who stated he had it because he was the Supreme summoning spell. There is no evidence Solomon has that power.
Even If he does, it doesn't mean he can pull Saber from Avalon. Your assuming here that people are at full power yes? If so then those would be real Artoria with Rhongomyniad and Excalibur, Prydwen and Avalon.
Full power Gilgamesh has Ea, Enkidu, a ship that is faster than light. Solomon has no counters for any of these.
There you are my precious Bat King God of the Mayan Underworld ❤️
Tezcatlipoca 🖤
And Kuku 💚
Holmes said Arjuna Walter's Mahapralaya is pretty much on Arms almadel level in his lostbelt and not even Mash would able to swallow up that attack. Let that sink in. Not to mention Rama, Scathach, Enkidu, Quetz, Dantes and Nero were one of the last few servants who endured waves after waves of his attacks and held their own in CQC. Let all that sink in.
Yes, did you see Mash literally died because of ASS too?
Mahapralaya only effective inside His lostbelt and it never shown or stated to be able to attack others
While ASS can be deployed from outside of space and time
@@ghanialter7103 still doesn't make it enough for Goetia to power creep the lostbelt kings from Surtr onwards. They're serious threats to him to. At least mid difficulty each and every one of them. Prime Solomon is just a tad bit stronger nothing more. That is the truth. One thing is simping and the other is understanding the truth.
@@ghanialter7103who said it is only effective inside his lostbelt ?
Sefar, Olga, KuKu, Amaterasu all beat him. Solomon dealing easily with Goetia is a compatibility thing and even then Goetia doesn't hold a candle to any of these guys
None of em can kill him, or tank ASS
@@ghanialter7103 why?
@@altirius Ars Paulina
Sefar cluld tank ASS is debatable since it cant tank a unknown seals of Excalibur, Kuku struggle againts ninkigal even when they fought in mid Air, Tezcatlipoca Pierce through Olga heart so i cant see she have a high Tier durability, amaterasu also dient really have any high Tier devensive and immortal negates hax
@@ghanialter7103 As far as I know, the power of Excalibur was sealed by Artoria/Arthur Pendragon, so the Excalibur used against Sefar had no seals and the Excalibur seals only existed several years after Sefar's death.
@@ghanialter7103 aas is infinitely inferior to unsealed excalibur, it is said that aas is equivalent to millions of attacks from a sealed excalibur morgan
What about someone like some Unsealed Saber Avalon? Would Avalon be able to tank Solomons AAS??
I don't think so...
Oberon edit next🔥🔥
How can solomon Beat Oberon ,Zeus, Kuku Castoria?????
He has Ars Paulina who make him immortal, Ars Almadel Solomonis i believe also can destroy the insect of abyss due it stated to able to destroy Tiamat sea of life
None of em here can tank ASS
Let me explain.its mostly cause his 1 rings omnpotence is busted.his 10 rings gives him so much range he can acess throne of heroes which is beyond infinite distance.he can probebly easily escape insect of the abyss.
goetia is directly stated to be the strongest enemy faced by chaldea till lb 5.5 even.including zeus or u olga.morgan magecraft gets cancalled.kuku cant get past solomons immortality and hax.
@@ghanialter7103 Also remember, Solomon can use and disable all magic and magecraft that humanity ever use. (This is one the Ten rings ability) The only exception is Magic that was made from Gods, but because almost all Magic and magecraft comes humanity. So He can literally almost use any magecraft, and in theory also included True Magic because humanity did achived it.
@@Patrick-tg6wmid say true magic is also exceprion.magic and magecraft are fundamentally completely different.their very fundamental source is not the same.magic is more like miracles than anything.they dont count among magecraft ngl
@@KingofMagesSolomon Yeah, that's why i say in theory. The reason i think so it because Humanity itself did achive it. With Zelretch, and Aoko being the known one. So in theory, Solomon should be able to use True Magic. Tho, this could be wrong if there other limitation that i don't know.
the first GRAND
100/102 is insane.
How about Akira/Joker (with Satanael) against this gauntlet?
I don't know about him
Depends if you think Persona scales to SMT (which I would agree with due to multiverse)
If it does then Joker could probably wipe since he killed Yaldabaoth who existed on a plane of existence that transcended the concept of Dimensions and later beat Adam Kadmon who Morgana said was "on another level" with support from the Phantom Thieves
we cant really scale solomon in term of power , all we know is that he is goetia counter
Thats not all
Goetia said, Prime Solomon would easily beat him
All of Goetia Power is from Solomon nine Rings so basically all goetia can do, Solomon can also do it but better
Grand Time Temple is owned by Solomon that exsist outside of space and time
He was the master/mentor of zelrech (idk If i spell His Name right) who is one of the strongest magus
And more...
What about void shiki can he neg diff her too?
Sadly, No He cant
He won't be able to do anything with Doman, not only is he incredibly difficult to kill, but he's also the best wizard.
Oberon has no weaknesses and can ignore all human laws
Solomon immortal....thus douman cant kill him, "best wizard", well...Solomon is the first Mages, He even is a mentor for zelrech
"Oberon has no weaknesses and can Ignore human laws", well....Solomon hax is given by the gods so its no a human laws....
@@ghanialter7103 Why? Doman influenced the universe and interacted with it. Based on his magical arsenal, he has a variety of tools to win. In fact, I want to say that it is impossible to choose a winner here, they are both high magicians.
Probably the alien god was afraid of him. I suppose it's an impossible task to impose your rules on him
@@Feilong22 you know what?
You are the very first person to actually defend douman..
But okay...
Douman doesnt have immortality, thus He can died, If He is immortal and all of your statement is right then why did He loses?
Solomon temple/Ars paulina exsist outside space and time so it means He literally live above universes level
Ars Almadel Solomonis also can rewrite the world and Its a huge threat to humanity, douman is still a human so He got a disadvantage
@@ghanialter7103 Well, many people don't like Doman for his actions, but as a villain he coped with his role perfectly.
There were many reasons why he lost and did not become a beast, but these reasons were imposed by the plot. Without trying to make him lose under the influence of the plot, he can endlessly create his own clones (equal to him in strength and abilities), can cancel magic directed at him personally. And this is a small part of what he does
The fact that he is human is very controversial, he is closer to a demon. There are two gods and an evil spirit in him
@@Feilong22 well...i like him (please don't misunderstood my word)
And yes he is a demon but His original self is a human, so i believe He still have human trait on him thus He got disadvantage to ASS
ask for edmond dante
How can solomon survive insect of the abyss? I mean the exit is cease to exist
I Mean....Mélusine could damage the insect of abyss even if she need to do a kamikaze
And did you think Solomon ASS couldnt Scratch the insect?
It can, clearly
@@ghanialter7103 i mean from inside insect of the abyss even castoria who is counter of oberon and stronger than melusine cannot do anything to go outside soo i think solomon only win if he didnt get sucked inside
@@overknightsyt5495 and did you think a literally 1 vs 1 debate fight of oberon vs solomon will start inside the insect of abyss?
Thats unfair
Oberon need to swallow His opponent First, its not like the opponent out of nowhere got transported to the inside of the abyss....
I ask you this then...
Could oberon tank a ASS, i Mean ASS who already touch him?
@@ghanialter7103 oh yeah your right soo solomon will win before oberon can do such a thing
@@overknightsyt5495 yes, pretty much
Even when Oberon release His insect, it cant even swallow him and His entire temple
C’mon some of the neg diffs deserved low diffs TT
Not really,
I bet they cant even reach Solomon throne, they need to pass through 72 demon gods plus Goetia that were immortal as long as Solomon still alive....
I dont know that solomon can defeat arthur pendragon. Thats new to me! 😊👍
I think I'd give it to Arthur Pendragon actually depending on how many seals are undone. If it's a true prime Solomon vs true prime Arthur Pendragon (no seals) I think Arthur is taking it.
Still Solomon Takes it
@@ghanialter7103 Didn't 2 seals release Arthur 1 shot ORT?
@@ghanialter7103 Like... I'd consider it at best high diff either way. Prime Solomon as it stands is pretty featless and the only thing we have is 2 seals released arthur being stupid OP in the arcade game with all seals released arthur being featless and just stated to be stupid OP.
Also think that prime Camazotz and Tezcalipoca could probably win too. Prime Camazotz had enough power to stop prime ORT who would absolutely beat Solomon. Tezcalipoca as his proper Grand Servant self is way more up in the air as we only have a statement saying prime Tezcalipoca could beat Camazotz and ORT. But I'd at least say it's going to be another high diff either way.
Still an argument on what could be the strongest character in verse (Arthur with plot) being a high difficulty win speaks to how absurdly broken Prime Solomon is. The moment we're comparing to ORT (even in his FAR weakened state) being probably one of the only characters that could soundly win against him he's gotten to broken tier.
@@aermikExcalibur couldn't even scratch ORT, heck I would say not even slash emperor to be honest
Also no, tezcatlipoca doesn't beat camazotz let alone ORT
Arthur with all seals unlocked would probably be Grand Servant level, Prime solomon could be argued for top 5 in the verse
@@prasant6533
Nah I swore that in the arcade Proto Arthur just one shots ORT. Or maybe it was 2 seals Arthur one shots one of the beasts? I forgot which.
Also Tezcatlipoca stated in his prime he could take down Camazotz prime who was on par with ORT. But yes, it is just a statement and we don't have anything to back it up until we finally get true grand berserker Tezcatlipoca. I don't think he's lying though.
Arthur no seals is like Void Shiki. Featless but Nasu gives them all the powers the plot needs them to have. Reason why I could see the argument for 0 seals Arthur at the very least being extreme diff.
Morgan next time pls
Try Ryougi Shiki
i dissagree with the diffecultis and i think higt hier lb7 characters like eresh, kuku and olga are at least high diff and camazoptz beats him. there i just no feat that puts solomon above camazotz imo but very good video solomon is op.(I also dont think any character form earth will surpass camazotz in streang for a while)
Camazotz will never can kill Solomon Nor the rest of 72 Demon gods (including goetia)
Camazotz also can be killed, His immortality is not as top Tier as Tiamat and Solomon immortality
Eresh and Kuku doesnt have a DC that able to wipe off all of 72 Demon gods at once, so they must be take several hit from the demon gods who each attack can easily kill top Tier servant such as scathach
They also didnt have a great endurance to stay fight in a very very long time
camazotz was heavily weakened when fighting in lb7 due to creating the alters and being mentally insane, Anubis was also a perfect counter to Cam and he didn't actually lose he gave up because he thought he had done enough for his world. he also has way better stamina than Solomon and his immortality made him able to survive everything ort threw at him and ort is way above Solomon in power. He still has the best immortality in the vers as long as he doesn't give up. plus Solomon can't summon Goetia because he got created after Solomons's death so he doesn't count, and he can only use ars almadel solomonis once and it wont be able to kill Camazotz@@ghanialter7103
@@ghanialter7103I'm curious about Eresh though? I thought after reading LB7 and seeing how she can control all those legs of gugalanna along with her constant authority of the underworld that she would be able to at least deal with the demon pillars including Goetia.
@@ghanialter7103I disagree with camazotz. It was literally stated even if the planet was destroyed he would still live. Plus that dude raw power pierce through ort heart and we all know ort only lose to one person and that is camazotz
@@syamilfaiz1189 yes but Camazotz can die, i mean...we actually defeated him alongside with nitoalter
Ort also didnt die againts camazotz
Kukulkan one shoot Ort too...
make more
Pls make Emiya Mega Gauntlet
Everytime he defeated someone he copied their NP’s
(Kinda obvious that Emiya would lose pathetically so yeah)
Bro you are on crack😂
Can he beat Magi Mari tho ?
Arthur, Camazotz, Kuku, Eresh Alter >
WOB scales as the 1st planetary class and is one of the 2 strongest beasts we've seen so far. Arthur destroyed Excalibur by simply opening its 13 seals. Camazotz single-handedly ripped out the heart of ORT. Kuku destroyed ORT Xibalba with only last sun Xibalba, and Eresh Alter states that he destroyed ORT's body without difficulty and could fight Sefar alone. Solomon has no feats or Hax to resist them.
Thats what I was curious about. Despite all of Solomon's hax, I wonder if he would be able to resist these characters based on feats and statements.
Solomon is the strongest mage in the entire verse, He knows all 5 types of magic in the verse and if you know how absurdly busted the 2nd magic is then you'll surely change your opinion.
Ars Paulina i believe can resist Them, He just simply immortal
And yes..Solomon didnt have any feats, but the statements are crazy enough
@@ghanialter7103 Ars Paulina should be destructible, if something can destroy ORT it should be able to destroy Ars Paulina
Do you think Amaterasu can hold the ground against him ?
Hmm let's see
Probably Solomon beat her low diff at best
Amaterasu is comparable to Goetia who Solomon would easily beat
@@ghanialter7103 so who do you think can beat him?
@@ghanialter7103 Solomon isn't "low-diffing" the Shinto god who's basically the chief deity of their pantheon, one who could harness energy from the sun for being a solar divinity, which is also akin to being categorized as a cosmic god for that matter, and a being who has raw power equal to that of Sefar's.
Besides, Sefar is the natural enemy of intelligent lifeforms, god or not, due to her conceptual advantage of anti-civilization. Naturally, Amaterasu as a singular god will clearly be at a disadvantage compared to a fused Zeus who has the power of an entire pantheon with multiple authorities. So, her defeat against such an opponent doesn't really translate well to how far she could scale.
OP or not, I don’t see him Negging all these characters. Like no way does he Neg Diff Merlin and Zeus.
Dude he was the first mage in the entire verse, knows all 5 types of magic. He is the master of a guy who has literally defeated Type-Moon. That's enough evidence already.
@@prasant6533 Elaborate on “defeated type moon” pls?
Sure He does
Solomon will lose to Zeus, Oberon, Morgan, Kuku
Edit: i change my mind
it's prime solomon, literally the master of zelretch( a second magic user )
Uhm no.he beats zeus easily.literally goetia is stronger than zeus.morgan magecraft gets cancalled by him and rhongo might be stronger than lb5 u olga or zeus but its still relevant to goetia then.and solomons far stronger.10 rings allows miracles like effecting throne of heroes.hes quite easily escaping the infinite distance of insct of abyss.kuku doesnt have anything to get past ars paulina his immortality 72 dmon gods immortality etc.pure strength or power dosnt help if your enemy is hax based and has insane hax
Prime Solomon slams all of them
@@KingofMagesSolomon damn he is more busted than I thought
@@KingofMagesSolomon10 rings allows him to give all his magecraft back to God that basically revokes all his achievements and give sit all back to God removing him from the throne of spirits.
If kuku and solomon fight it will all be dependent on kukus np spamming skills , np strength and stamina since solomons familiars cannot hurt her significantly due to her being able to one shot divine spirit that no sell attacks that kill divine or incapacitate divine spirit.
And if we interpret kukus bonk as equal to aas then solomon dies not from unga bunga but from old age due to it being an endless fight and alive solomon Is you know a human with a human life span.
But solomon could win by ordering his familiar(goetia) to add more aas bands of light and nuke kuku and I am atleast expecting he can't incinerate himself from the heat. So he wins but with mid diff.
Camazotz might be able to outlast him tho if I take his immortality to the absolute maximum interpretation.
You overestimate salomon.😅
How can Salomon beat Kukulkan? Camazotz ? U-Olga Marie ? Beni-ema Alter? Ereshkigal Alter who can beat sephar? And Tiamat? Goetia???? And you said that ORT take that with mid difficulty? 🤨 Is very false!!!!
There is no false or True cause there is no an actual answer for that...
Kuku, U Olga, Beni Enma, Eresh Alter cant kill Solomon or bypass Solomon immortality
Camazotz also doesnt have hax who can bypass and absolute immortality like Solomon or Tiamat
Goetia stated Solomon would easily beat him If He was at His Prime
And i never say Tiamat lose againts Solomon
@@ghanialter7103 the reason why goetia loses against solomon ten rings is because goetia is a human magecraft, and the ten rings give control of all human magecraft, in addition, is mentioned in fate/grand order material that goetia king of man surpassed king solomon.
@@ghanialter7103 solomon doesn't have any feat to beat someone like arjuna alter or zeus, you can try to argue that goetia is said to be superior to alien god, but that's a translation error and even arjuna alter is stated in fgo HP to be above goetia
@@ghanialter7103 Solomon also has no way of killing them. Immortal does not mean invincible. It's not because we can't kill him that he wins and I don't think that Kukukkan can't destroy Ars Paulina since his noble fantasy is anti-world. Camazotz has the greatest immortality in Fate even ORT can't kill him how many times Solomon? And then Camazotz is astronomically stronger than him.
So little correction for some people
Solomon is op yes but not in the category of the best
Reasons
1)demon pillars are kinda overrated a base Arjuna was able to kill 28 with his NP so it's not like they are unkillable
Some NP's can destroy 72 demon pillars pretty easily
EA(can kill tiamat in her weakened state who can summon 11 lahmu who are on par with demon pillars and they also have way less durability than her if merlin can match them then Gil's EA destroys),quetz's NP (can destroy the sea of life which was said to only able to be destroyed by the bands of light. this does not mean EA can't do the same because EA was unknown till that point) any other NP close to these NPs can destroy 72 demon pillars pretty easily
2)ars almadel Salomnis
Let's be honest goetia's ars almadel salomnis is probably stronger than solomon's as goetia had 3000 years worth of magical energy in it and it was also stated that it is something that solomon cannot achieve so how strong is solomon's ars almadel salomnis is currently unknown and this means his power has to be considered hypothetically.
3) ars paulina is no exception to a reality marble and anyone who can destroy a reality marble like EA,quetz,goetia can destroy ars paulina it is stated goetia and solomon are invincible but not ars paulina which makes them invincible so solomon is not entirely invincible
4)he has literally no durability feats his shield got broken by few punches from goetia which can barely harm quetz so he is kind of a glass Cannon.
Y'all remember I never said he/she can beat solomon in a battle I am just saying he is nkt unkillable and not as strong as y'all think he is but still he is the strongest grand. (maybe except ort)
I won't be debating about this seems kinda boring to debate about.
That's just my opinion so there is no reason for anyone to get angery on this.
It can be destroyed but cant be killed since they will return back from the death (immortal)
Also Gilgamesh EA never kill Tiamat even in her Weakened, Holding back, underworld+concept of death debuff, cause She just got send to the void and then resummon herself as alter Ego Class...
@@ghanialter7103 this guy is a Gil wanker, he thinks Gil is relevant in the big league lol
@@ghanialter7103 yes but their immortality comes from ars Paulina which can destroyed by EA or anyother NP like EA
Yes he didn't kill her but he destroy her body which is something no one else there could have done
@@KingofHeroesGilgamesh then why Gilgamesh didnt blast His EA in the first place in Solomon singularity? One answer, EA cant do it
Destroying Tiamat body is not a impresive feats after what they do to her, She also holding back, didnt use any Defensive, doesnt resist, and furthermore She let then to kill herself after fujimaru talk to her
@@ghanialter7103 yes there are reasons for all. first EA needs the amount of mana That isn't possible for ritsuka to give. And Gil instead of using EA had given his mana to ritsuka to summon other servants
Don't know how destroying tiamat's body isn't a good feat as all the others even after trying could only manage to cut off her wing even ars almadel Salomonis has never been stated to destroy tiamat's body maybe her wings but never her body.
Yes ritsuka did ask her to give up but he didn't say "decrease your durability" she was the same tiamat but stopped attacking and even when she did try to kill Gilgamesh it did nothing to him.
By simple scaling
Ars almadel Salomonis can destroy the sea of life, quetz's NP destroyed the sea of life with 30% authority (so around 60% authority quetz's NP would be equal to if not stronger than ars almadel Salomonis) Gil destroyed tiamat including the sea of life (the sea of life exists in her body)
So by scaling EA's feat of destroying tiamat's body doesn't seem to be that bad,does it ?
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Eh, idk man, some of these are pretty incorrect
U-Olga has a stellar class saint graph, meaning her power is star level, which is completely out of Solomon's league
Castoria has 12 Unsealed Excalibur's, a single one is capable of killing Sefar who is stellar class
Lie Like Vortigern is stated to exceed a black hole in danger, a black hole is beyond stellar class which is obviously outside of Solomon's weight level
Ninkigal literally beat ORT
If Arthur and Artoria had their weapons unsealed they would win as they can kill stellar class people
Do you know about zelretch? The guy who supposedly single handedly defeated Type Moon ( Arguably the strongest Type in the entire Nasuverse ) with his second magic and guess what? Solomon was the master of zelretch.
Stellar class =/= strength of a star it only refers to the amount of magical energy produced by the Saint graph.
Saint graph magical energy =/= strength either as Amaterasu has 387,420,489 and stage 7 Sefar has 300,000,000. And Amaterasu did worse against her than ares who couldn’t even touch her.
Kama who can destroy and affect any amount of universes as an incomplete beast and is weaker than Arjuna alter, and the complete beasts, but because her Saint graph is not even satellite class.
Arthur and artoria could possibly but clairvoyance he can see the attack the moment the Excalibur is created, go to temple of time and then if they are summoned as servants just unsummon them. AAS can affect Avalon but Excalibur cannot relinquish the temple of time.
@@prasant6533 mf what? Type: Moon is probably the weakest one, it's quite literally just a weaker version of Archetype: Earth
@@mrdogeguy7299 No? Archtype : Earth was supposed to be a vessel for Type Moon, he should be stronger than her.
@@prasant6533 Per WoG AE has all of Type: Moon's power, since AE is also 100% Arc and has Gaia's power AE is Type: Moon+Red Arc (maybe stronger than Red Arc)+Gaia
Nah , starting from godjuna till kuku it's just no diff , or low diff 🤷 , don't say neg that's just BS
Edit: wow hassan on low diff while these lb kings not? Lmao , agreed till lb kings and then suddenly surtr not on neg whike godjuna us 💀💀 lmao
Kuku>zeus100≥godjuna>morgan>>surtr and the rest 💀💀🤣
Its true tho, godjuna NP will never can affect grand Time Temple, Zeus also defeated by a black Barrel empowered by quirinus mana, Morgan attacks also cant affect GTT She also doenst have any Defensive to Tank ASS, KuKu also struggle againts ninkigal while in her Domain (mid Air), She also didnt have any top Tier Defensive Capabilities to Tank ASS
@@ghanialter7103 GODJUNA np scales universally without the wall of light and he can destroy the world and recreate it and change the texture of lb every week 💀 morgan did it like once using even the lb trees power but zeus can't AND YOU PUT SURTR OF LOW DIFF??!!while zeus and godjuna on neg?!? Bro what? , Hassan too?? , godjuna has the best defence among the lb kings I'd say with his AUTHORITIES and all , but shouldn't they be on no diff , to low diff instead of surtr and Hassan?! 💀
@@ghanialter7103 no
And yet surtr Hassan on low ?!! 💀 godjuna is capable of far more and is one of the strongest kings , him and zeus being in neg diff while surtr and Hassan on low is just bs absolute bs 💀
@@gilpendrago Like i said there is some servant i change the diff
Godjuna and Zeus i change it to no diff
And king Hassan, yes...
He have a Insane endurance also His Basic attack able to kill three new Offspring Lahmu who is Equal to one demon God pillar each, He can also Teleport quite far, so He possibly can backstabbed Solomon (very low chance, since Solomon can See through future and have EX clairvoyance), but yeah...even tho He succed, His Attack will never can break through Solomon barier
One Ring Weakened Solomon barier can tank 20+ goetia Serious punches
@@ghanialter7103 yeah but Hassan ain't even godjuna level , 💀 like godjuna clears him EX clairvoyance, godjuna has it too wym? Normal arjuna took out like 20 or more demon god pillars, we see Hassan struggling and even using his teeths against the lahmu 💀💀 , godjuna and zeus should be higher than morgan and Hassan tho
Solomon can definitely beat most fo the servants, but he isn't beating LB kings, we only able to beat only weakened skadi, while QSH was grand level.
And he is definitely getting OS by Zeus and AA, they are gods and have authorities and access to divine magics while solomon using magecraft.
Kukulkan will oneshot him, she is heart of ort, there is no way Solomon doing anything to her
I can agree that Solomon is stronger than other of the grand servants and beasts. But KukuOrt is a different level. I'm afraid he can't even beat Abigail. And many other foreigners
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@@balaka3020 "Avenger Assembl-"
*FLAME ON!*
@@ghanialter7103 Yea i assume they will come