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Thank you for everything you put into this side hobby of yours. I was on the brink of buying a used m9 monochrom for 2.9k after watching this video. It would be my first rangefinder and my first Leica. I also remembered your voice in my head saying gear doesn't matter. After careful deliberation, I realised I still couldn't afford a Leica at this point with a young toddler in tow. I backed out and will keep taking pictures with the gear that I have. You're a good and kind person. I pray for nothing but the best for you and your family.
Thanks, you made my day! I just love this camera and will never get rid of it no matter what people say. Oh and what lovely baby you have, congratulations! Mine is 3 now, time flies! Have fun!
I find your videos very enjoyable . They remind me of when I shot with M2's and M3's in the early 1970s - I remember dickering over the price of a perfectly fine used M3 and getting it for $400. I was terrible at shooting with those cameras - of course they weren't suitable for sports photography (I was a magazine staff photog). I like your photos because they have a similar feel to my favorites from that era - non-sports subjects like two bicycles leaning against a tree trunk and looking just like two sweethearts in love - I sold that one to a bike fanatic who printed cards with it. I enjoy the classy tight presentation - it all just fits together so nicely. Tak sa micket, for the very pleasant times, one photographer to another.
My favorite RUclips channel bar none...love watching your videos....I have too many cameras as it is, but the monochroms have always intrigued me (that said, I have found that TL2 b&w jpegs are surprisingly good right out of the camera)
It’s funny, I’ve been using those exact two lenses you showed (Planar and Color-Skopar) on my M9 because they were very well priced. They’ve both been outstandingly sharp performers.
I was really tempted to pick up an M Monochrom late last year and ended up getting an M9 instead. I usually shoot Color and Black and White 50/50 so I didn’t want to make the jump to a pure B&W camera. But it does have great low light performance compared to the M9 I agree on the price point for these cameras too. I paid $1200 for an M8 with the Voigtlander 35mm Nokton lens and $2400 for an M9 with a new sensor and the sapphire glass screen upgrade. The deals are out there patience is the key.
I knew it, it's a mistake watching your video! 😁 Kidding. I bought 3 cameras just from watching your video and I never regret any if it. Great video, great pictures and congratulations on the addition of the little one. This might be 4th camera I'm considering. Just for the ccd sensor all day alone.
I would gladly swap my M240 for the M9 Monochrom. It and maaaybe the M10 Monochrom (probably the best CMOS mono sensor they've made) are the closest I can get to my Foveon BW, but still shoot a Rangefinder :)
i have the dp2m and the photos are amazing. I havnt owned a m monochrome but I just found one for sale. The thing i hate about the dp2m is the amount of batteries required. I have 6 and that is not enought o get me through an hour
CCD Sensors are some wild magic. my k10d has the best colors SOOC that i have tried to date. my olympus is almost as good. also, i have checked the colors in prints and theyre awesome. long live the old ccd magic!
If the seller doesn't have paper work there is a button sequins one can press to open a hidden menu. There one can check the sensor ID which be 15 or 16 on the M9 and 53 on the MM.
Great video Mattias, could you please share your workflow to get color images from a black and white sensor? It seems to me that it is something done above all in the field of astrophotography, but I am pleasantly surprised by the excellent results that can also be obtained in more common areas. Thanks for the continuous ideas you give us.
Great shots! You answered both questions I had near the end, whether it had Auto ISO, and what the price was. The last part is sadly a dealbreaker for now, but I knew to expect it
I’d love to see your review of something like the Nikon D3X. The noise, colors and textures it produces are so unique and it’s black and white images are just like The original Acros 100.
This is my dream camera, if only I could find one at the right price. I currentley have the M8 which I love but would drop it for the M9 Monochrom any day. Cheers.... 👍
I adore my m8 and use it so much more than the Monochrome. The mono is great and produces gorgeous images but it just hasn’t gelled with me. I’m tempted to sell to fund a medium format camera for landscapes but always will wonder “will I regret this” if I do
I don't know what a right price is but I paid a fortune for this one and I don't regret it. Actually it was much too expensive for me but somehow I managed to buy one and it'll stay with me for ever. And it's much cheaper now
Seems we have the same taste for lenses. I shoot my Leica M2 with the Zeiss Planar 50 and the little Voigtlander Skopar 35. Both are excellent lenses! BTW I agree with your comment regarding prices, bought my M2 for 600 Euros, now the same shop is asking no less than 2000 😳
Matthias, why do you *do* this to me? 😂 Always showcasing such great equipment. I would kill to have this camera. Well, not literally kill. Probably. 🤷🏼♂️
The first camera is always special. I miss my RX100 a lot. It's size, power and features just don't compare to the GX9. And I don't think there ever will be another option that comes close.
Hi Mattias, loved the video and the photos, thanks! Despite the difference in the sensor size and pixel resolution, which black and white did you prefer in between the M8 and the M9M, having both the CCD sensor? I've read the M8 gives a more contrasty and grainier filmic look with less dinamic range. The advantage of the M8 is that it's way cheaper than M9M. Thanks!
If the seller doesn't have paper work there is a button sequins one can press to open a hidden menu. There one can check the sensor ID which be 15 or 16 on the M9 and 53 on the MM.
Hi Mattius, I bring to your attention to issues regarding the film mode for type 240. In low light, vivid and even smooth color mode causes much more exaggerated peripheral light fall off than the off mode in color (i.e., color JPEG as is), even with 50mm and most certainly significantly more with 28mm and wider lenses. Is this normal?
Great video as always. My biggest worry now is the aging batteries of the M9. I’ve heard of a few people experiencing shorts from knockoff eBay batteries and the Leica ones are no longer made. What are your thoughts?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter maybe I’ll start taking a more serious look at those M9s if that’s the case. I agree with you when you on shooting the M9 like a film camera. It’s how I treat my M10 and that makes iso6400 feel like so much…the M11 just feels limitless in comparison
From time to time I think about the monochrom but then I look back at my experience with the M8 and M9 and the loud shutter and the bad display and I'm cured again. For me it would be M246 or newer.
To this day I still haven’t found a scenario where I needed a screen that was better. Think it’s time for another video on overrated camera features :)
You can use CCD for dim lit places and they do very well in capturing the scene how it is. I'm Not the biggest fan of 1 million Iso trying to make day for night shots
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I'm looking at the subtlety of the grays. You like a lot of back lit hi contrast so I can seen your point. I like as well Sigma DP Merrill in monochrome mode- there's guy doing B&W Macro on a Merrill Flickr group whose work is jaw dropping.
enjoyed the video. made me want one but i may be lazy because the prices were high on the internet. i then remembered i had HP5 in my M4 and was ok and the GAS subsided. i
Where are you guys finding good condition Leicas for that cheap?? Clearly not eBay like I’ve been looking at. And how do you ensure your ccd sensor won’t corrode?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter Well I guess I need to search longer and harder. Can’t seem to stumble across them for less than $4000. How do you ensure it also has the new ccd sensor that won’t corrode? Favorite lenses for yours?
You can check the sensor in the hidden system menu. I would sell mine instantly if I got $4000.. I probably couldn’t get more that $3000, and that’s mint with only 3000 exposures.
I used to own one. Was thinking about getting back into Leica by buying an old CCD Monochrome. THE BIG PROBLEM with their CCD sensors was they broke down and had to be serviced for free by Leica. If you buy a CCD Leica, ensure the sensor has been replaced and the seller has the paperwork.
It’s the sensor cover glass that corroded due to oxidisation. Leica initially replaced corroded sensor glass with the same glass till circa 2016. After that date they used a different cover glass that so far has stood the test of time.
It looks very nice, but it's not for me. Every time I try to commit to monochrome luck hits me with a beautiful colour scene. And after Sam L Streetlife's take on shooting monochrome for a year confirmed my fears, I think I would end up carrying those tri-chrome filters with me everywhere. 😂 CCD sounds nice, but I don't know the difference. Maybe one day I could get my hands on a regular M9 and the 28 elmarit.
Digital Leica died with me with the M9 Debacle, CMOS M10 and the Sony A7 line, I miss actual range finding, but it's just not worth the drama. Anything they can do Sony and Chinese lens manufacturers can do better. I will always love my M6, but I sold my M9 the second I got a replacement sensor.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter YeS SiR ! SONY = Soul-Less & Dead like a Corpse i have the M10-P *white* Limited Edition & 50 Summilux -- the feeling is indescribable ..... & I might wait for the M11-Monochrom
@Mattias Burling I'm not talking about high-speed photos, sometimes when I want to take a second shot, camera is still busy writing the first picture. Sometimes, you miss great shots. I kept the camera because it was something special with that sensor.
No doubt an amazing camera, but if I spent $2000+ on a camera that only took black and white photos... my wife would spend the same on shoes that look ordinary.
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Thank you for everything you put into this side hobby of yours. I was on the brink of buying a used m9 monochrom for 2.9k after watching this video. It would be my first rangefinder and my first Leica.
I also remembered your voice in my head saying gear doesn't matter. After careful deliberation, I realised I still couldn't afford a Leica at this point with a young toddler in tow. I backed out and will keep taking pictures with the gear that I have. You're a good and kind person. I pray for nothing but the best for you and your family.
Leica can wait :)
The trichrome images are AMAZING, more!!!
someone should make a single filter thats tri on a slide.
This
Thanks, you made my day! I just love this camera and will never get rid of it no matter what people say. Oh and what lovely baby you have, congratulations! Mine is 3 now, time flies! Have fun!
I've been watching your videos for years now. So happy to see your little one next to Gunpowder. You're a lucky man, congratulations.
🙏
I find your videos very enjoyable . They remind me of when I shot with M2's and M3's in the early 1970s - I remember dickering over the price of a perfectly fine used M3 and getting it for $400. I was terrible at shooting with those cameras - of course they weren't suitable for sports photography (I was a magazine staff photog). I like your photos because they have a similar feel to my favorites from that era - non-sports subjects like two bicycles leaning against a tree trunk and looking just like two sweethearts in love - I sold that one to a bike fanatic who printed cards with it. I enjoy the classy tight presentation - it all just fits together so nicely. Tak sa micket, for the very pleasant times, one photographer to another.
I’m glad you liked it!
I almost traded my Leica Monochrom to 246 Monochrome. I’m glad I kept it, and keeping it forever. Great video Matt!
Smart move.
My favorite RUclips channel bar none...love watching your videos....I have too many cameras as it is, but the monochroms have always intrigued me (that said, I have found that TL2 b&w jpegs are surprisingly good right out of the camera)
I love my 246 and the three Leica lenses I have (28, 50, 90), render wonderfully on it. Mind you, they render colour wonderfully on my m10 as well
have you compared 246 BW to M10's BW conversion ? Curious if thers is a difference!
One of my favorite youtuber, no bs ..very informative
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Interesting and sincere review, and as always, wonderful pics, Mattias. I wish I had your talent.
"Much less noise, and the noises you do get tend to be quite pleasing" tell me that image of 😍 Baby Burling was timed precisely for that phrase 2:03
I have to rewatch 😃
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I have added the time and corrected it :D
I’ve heard that Pentax might release K3 Mk. 3 Monochrome in Jet black finish. I can’t wait!
That would be very cool.
It’s funny, I’ve been using those exact two lenses you showed (Planar and Color-Skopar) on my M9 because they were very well priced. They’ve both been outstandingly sharp performers.
They are great bang/$ lenses 👍
Me to! 😍👏
Me too! I love cosina lenses and M9! Both lenses are made by cosina in Japan, right?
I was really tempted to pick up an M Monochrom late last year and ended up getting an M9 instead.
I usually shoot Color and Black and White 50/50 so I didn’t want to make the jump to a pure B&W camera. But it does have great low light performance compared to the M9
I agree on the price point for these cameras too. I paid $1200 for an M8 with the Voigtlander 35mm Nokton lens and $2400 for an M9 with a new sensor and the sapphire glass screen upgrade. The deals are out there patience is the key.
Nice!
I knew it, it's a mistake watching your video! 😁 Kidding. I bought 3 cameras just from watching your video and I never regret any if it. Great video, great pictures and congratulations on the addition of the little one. This might be 4th camera I'm considering. Just for the ccd sensor all day alone.
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Can you make a video on the method to create the photos with the filters?
Agree
I would gladly swap my M240 for the M9 Monochrom. It and maaaybe the M10 Monochrom (probably the best CMOS mono sensor they've made) are the closest I can get to my Foveon BW, but still shoot a Rangefinder :)
i have the dp2m and the photos are amazing. I havnt owned a m monochrome but I just found one for sale. The thing i hate about the dp2m is the amount of batteries required. I have 6 and that is not enought o get me through an hour
Its interesting with those filters. Like you getting 2 cameras in 1. Then the look of these photos you get with it are film a like. Perfect!
Just ordered from B&H, along with a 35/2 Biogon. CAN'T WAIT!!!
@@technolene What was your price? Thoughts?
CCD Sensors are some wild magic. my k10d has the best colors SOOC that i have tried to date. my olympus is almost as good. also, i have checked the colors in prints and theyre awesome. long live the old ccd magic!
Woohoo for Pentax K10D. Agree, love mine :)
@@snappiness hey! Nice to see you here! And thanks for making me buy one😅
@@EstelonAgarwaen lol, anytime. Spread the K10D love
@@snappiness love the K10D . Was my first DSLR, and when the light is suitable that sensor produces glorious results.
I agree. I have pentax *istdl and i love how it render color
Awsome vid! I just bought mine a month ago and absolutely love it.
How much u got it?
Many thanks, I'm just about to buy one to add to my M9 (can't completely do without colour) . You've talked me into it :)
Had the M9M now for 9 months and haven't used anything else since
Hi Mattias, how do you know if this camera has a newer sensor (mentioned at 4:15) - that's not in danger of corrosion?
If the seller doesn't have paper work there is a button sequins one can press to open a hidden menu. There one can check the sensor ID which be 15 or 16 on the M9 and 53 on the MM.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter OK, cheers.
Great video Mattias, could you please share your workflow to get color images from a black and white sensor? It seems to me that it is something done above all in the field of astrophotography, but I am pleasantly surprised by the excellent results that can also be obtained in more common areas.
Thanks for the continuous ideas you give us.
Great shots! You answered both questions I had near the end, whether it had Auto ISO, and what the price was. The last part is sadly a dealbreaker for now, but I knew to expect it
I’d love to see your review of something like the Nikon D3X. The noise, colors and textures it produces are so unique and it’s black and white images are just like The original Acros 100.
The B&W jpeg mode or convert from color raw in Lightroom?
This is my dream camera, if only I could find one at the right price. I currentley have the M8 which I love but would drop it for the M9 Monochrom any day. Cheers.... 👍
I adore my m8 and use it so much more than the Monochrome. The mono is great and produces gorgeous images but it just hasn’t gelled with me. I’m tempted to sell to fund a medium format camera for landscapes but always will wonder “will I regret this” if I do
I don't know what a right price is but I paid a fortune for this one and I don't regret it. Actually it was much too expensive for me but somehow I managed to buy one and it'll stay with me for ever. And it's much cheaper now
Seems we have the same taste for lenses. I shoot my Leica M2 with the Zeiss Planar 50 and the little Voigtlander Skopar 35. Both are excellent lenses! BTW I agree with your comment regarding prices, bought my M2 for 600 Euros, now the same shop is asking no less than 2000 😳
Matthias, why do you *do* this to me? 😂 Always showcasing such great equipment. I would kill to have this camera. Well, not literally kill. Probably. 🤷🏼♂️
how you transfer the photos in this camera?
Hi Mattias,
Where did you buy this model? What is the current price?
Thank you.
What filters are you using to get those color images?
Woo! Question: where do you get your music? It’s great, and I assume it’s royalty free?
From RUclips.
Great vid. Love videos that are exactly what the title says.
i love my fuji s5 ccd. Which ones corrode how can I tell?
Please introduce a place to repair the corrosion of the CCD sensor
I dont see that happening. All you can do is buy one that has the corrosion free sensor.
Tempted by the m246. The m240 series seems to be the forgotten Leica and prices are tumbling.
Is their a newer version of this camera and is it CMOS? Great video, as usual!
Absolutely. There is the M240 Monochrom as well as the M10 Monochrom.
Is Leica m8 black and white jpeg almost the same ?
What’s full model of this camera?
So this the M9 monochrome?
The first camera is always special.
I miss my RX100 a lot. It's size, power and features just don't compare to the GX9. And I don't think there ever will be another option that comes close.
Please do “5 reasons to buy Leica Film camera in 2022” much appreciated!
Hi could you please do a video on best books/master class for beginner photographers from your own experience?
Thanks 😊
Hi Mattias, loved the video and the photos, thanks! Despite the difference in the sensor size and pixel resolution, which black and white did you prefer in between the M8 and the M9M, having both the CCD sensor? I've read the M8 gives a more contrasty and grainier filmic look with less dinamic range. The advantage of the M8 is that it's way cheaper than M9M. Thanks!
@mattias, thanks for this, when searching for deals how do I differeniate between cameras with the new sensor and the one that corrodes? thanks
If the seller doesn't have paper work there is a button sequins one can press to open a hidden menu. There one can check the sensor ID which be 15 or 16 on the M9 and 53 on the MM.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter thank you
Hi Mattius, I bring to your attention to issues regarding the film mode for type 240. In low light, vivid and even smooth color mode causes much more exaggerated peripheral light fall off than the off mode in color (i.e., color JPEG as is), even with 50mm and most certainly significantly more with 28mm and wider lenses. Is this normal?
No idea, never owned a m240.
Your content is great!
What cameras are you owning now?
Hey Mattias, what websites do you use to find deals? Just ebay or are there others you would recommend? Love your content!
What are some other ccd sensor still camera options than Leica (more affordable)?
Pentax, Nikon, Fuji.
Great video as always. My biggest worry now is the aging batteries of the M9. I’ve heard of a few people experiencing shorts from knockoff eBay batteries and the Leica ones are no longer made. What are your thoughts?
The Leica batteries are still available and I’ve never had any issues with third party on any camera.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter maybe I’ll start taking a more serious look at those M9s if that’s the case. I agree with you when you on shooting the M9 like a film camera. It’s how I treat my M10 and that makes iso6400 feel like so much…the M11 just feels limitless in comparison
So Leica m monochrome sensor doesn't corode?
Same as the M9, if it has the new sensor it doesn’t.
Amazing pictures! I'm was on the fence :-)
Honestly I thought this video was sponsored by Ebay, well, nice videos as always :)
From time to time I think about the monochrom but then I look back at my experience with the M8 and M9 and the loud shutter and the bad display and I'm cured again. For me it would be M246 or newer.
To this day I still haven’t found a scenario where I needed a screen that was better. Think it’s time for another video on overrated camera features :)
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I know that you even belong to the 1% (or less) of rangefinder users who like cameras without a screen.... :-)
I happen to have one and I love it. Unfortunately I can’t use it as much as I would like to.
Same here
Very nice pictures.
You can use CCD for dim lit places and they do very well in capturing the scene how it is.
I'm Not the biggest fan of 1 million Iso trying to make day for night shots
Please don’t tempt me Mattias, my wallet can’t handle this. The monochrom has always been the (digital) Leica to have imo, such a unique direction.
I wish I can find one for this price. I haven’t seen any m9m pop up in such a long time
Oh Yeah-Gorgeous tones. The M10 Monochrome is even better.
Personally I find the M10 worse.. but it’s all subjective of course :)
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I'm looking at the subtlety of the grays. You like a lot of back lit hi contrast so I can seen your point. I like as well Sigma DP Merrill in monochrome mode- there's guy doing B&W Macro on a Merrill Flickr group whose work is jaw dropping.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter BTW I like those filter color shots you did. Cool color.
you sold the zfc??!
Nope.
enjoyed the video. made me want one but i may be lazy because the prices were high on the internet. i then remembered i had HP5 in my M4 and was ok and the GAS subsided. i
I remember when you almost tricked me into getting a Leica m9 with a Leica 50mm lens. Why am I here lmao
If you would have it probably would have been worth a bit more today. The M9 is rising again :)
Come on my bank account has barely recovered from Christmas
i would still give it to the m8 over this. lack of IR makes amazin bw
I have Leica M (not the Monochrom). I love it, but it does feel like it's getting a bit dated. I would love an M Monochrom to compliment it though.
Nah, its not dated. The older CCD versions runs cirkels around the M10 and M11 :)
Thank you
CCD FOREVER
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Don’t watch, don’t watch.
Checks wallet after watching.
Luckily it only has 5€ in it.
Saved again from having to sleep on the couch.😎
You can make a Meme out of the CCD topic =D
C-Mos Virgin and CCD Chad
(just kidding, both technologies have it's down and upsides)
Where are you guys finding good condition Leicas for that cheap?? Clearly not eBay like I’ve been looking at. And how do you ensure your ccd sensor won’t corrode?
eBay.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter Well I guess I need to search longer and harder. Can’t seem to stumble across them for less than $4000. How do you ensure it also has the new ccd sensor that won’t corrode? Favorite lenses for yours?
You can check the sensor in the hidden system menu. I would sell mine instantly if I got $4000.. I probably couldn’t get more that $3000, and that’s mint with only 3000 exposures.
now that you upload this video, Leica M9 Monochrome prices will go up for half a year :)
I don’t need a reason to buy this camera.
What I need is MONEY💰
Thumbs up
I used to own one. Was thinking about getting back into Leica by buying an old CCD Monochrome.
THE BIG PROBLEM with their CCD sensors was they broke down and had to be serviced for free by Leica.
If you buy a CCD Leica, ensure the sensor has been replaced and the seller has the paperwork.
Or check the sensor data in the hidden menu.
pentax for the winzzzZzzz q 10
Where can I buy a M9M for $2000? In the UK it has been around £2300 for a while. It is also quite hard to find one on the market.
I can’t even get rid of mine for that price. And that’s mint condition with almost no exposures :)
Even Monochrom cameras with the replacement sensor can corrode. There was a second replacement sensor that didn’t corrode.
That’s what I said. But what you say is not exactly correct. The replaced that corrode didn’t get the new sensor. There was no in between sensor.
It’s the sensor cover glass that corroded due to oxidisation. Leica initially replaced corroded sensor glass with the same glass till circa 2016. After that date they used a different cover glass that so far has stood the test of time.
Yeaaaaahhhh
Without the crap like live view, video and WiFi...
Me:"But I like those things. "
So do I, but not in a rangefinder.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter Wifi though, that's pretty useful to copy pictures without the need of a laptop.
No thanks in a rangefinder for me.
never selling mine....!! You will never find one in Australia for less than $4k
I should sell mine there :)
It looks very nice, but it's not for me. Every time I try to commit to monochrome luck hits me with a beautiful colour scene. And after Sam L Streetlife's take on shooting monochrome for a year confirmed my fears, I think I would end up carrying those tri-chrome filters with me everywhere. 😂
CCD sounds nice, but I don't know the difference. Maybe one day I could get my hands on a regular M9 and the 28 elmarit.
Excuse me…
what do you mean by….
even with the poor Chinese lens?
Isn’t it obvious?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter obvious what?
Digital Leica died with me with the M9 Debacle, CMOS M10 and the Sony A7 line, I miss actual range finding, but it's just not worth the drama. Anything they can do Sony and Chinese lens manufacturers can do better. I will always love my M6, but I sold my M9 the second I got a replacement sensor.
Sony doesn’t make rangefinders nor do they sell a monochrome stills camera.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter YeS SiR ! SONY = Soul-Less & Dead like a Corpse
i have the M10-P *white* Limited Edition & 50 Summilux -- the feeling is indescribable ..... & I might wait for the M11-Monochrom
Yo where the 2k Monochromes at
For a street camera, the buffer is terrible.
No problem at all. Specially for street where a big buffer isn’t needed.
@Mattias Burling I'm not talking about high-speed photos, sometimes when I want to take a second shot, camera is still busy writing the first picture. Sometimes, you miss great shots. I kept the camera because it was something special with that sensor.
That’s never happened. You can take lots of pictures in a row. Sounds like you have a defective camera or card.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter Original Monochrome (18MP CCD sensor)
Yup, same camera.
1st
you are 2nd
No doubt an amazing camera, but if I spent $2000+ on a camera that only took black and white photos... my wife would spend the same on shoes that look ordinary.
well boys, time to hit eBay as fast as you can
3.6k at the moment. hell naw
It costs much less than that. Closer to 2K.
You forgot one reason: "You have wayyyyy too much money!"
$2k isn’t that much in the camera world. Most high end cameras costs way more.
Untill now, i still don't know what is ur dream camera😂
You always lose money buying any cameras. Period!!
Thats factuality incorrect. Period!!!!!!!!!! ;)