How to cut perfect rafter feet or tails, I mark the rafters, then cut the rafters really straight
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This is the way I have been cutting my Rafter feet or tails we also call this the eve of the roof, I talk about the process and demonstrate my teqnique and the basic tools needed
I also show a clip of the preparation of the rafter feet with the festool router
Roof construction is specialist and can be dangerous, please do not try anything you see me do without the correct training and safety in place
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I use a similar method but would always use a level on each rafter as they will all vary slightly due to crowning etc. Nice job though
Joshua Matheron cx. Cccc. Cc.
Thought you were going to be juggling circular saws with that warning at the start 😂
I do that for fun sometimes -=}
Dam my wife heard you say about the dangerous tools and offered to buy me one for Christmas.
Yep clearly knows his trade. He knows his worth. Routing the edges of rafters, if he puts the effort in for that small detail well the project will be of a very high standard. Great videos btw.
It was a great idea for Robin to show how little time it takes to add that detail; less than 60s per rafter foot. So for an extra hour on site, anyone looking up will see the quality of his work; and this will one of the few parts of Robin's work that is actual visible when the roof is completed.
Love the chamfer detail and that you took the time to cut one of the double rafters back at the wall line so that it doesn't look odd at the eaves. Great attention to detail!
This is the way I was always taught, on a very small roof I may cut the rafter feet first. On a long stretch this is the proper way 👌
Proper method but I would have though standard among carpenters?
I use a red builders line though, I don't feel a chalk line can be pulled tight enough to be accurate especially so on long runs.
Nothing is standard in the elitest world of any skilled tradie..!
In this case it doesn't matter if it's a long run. The line still gives the correct measurement cause it's not moving sidewards.
Prebuilt trusses, guys won't even snap a line to cut. Which does work, but stringing the tails is the only way on a hand cut roof. The tight string never lies.
If you want a *REALLY* tight string line then buy some Dyneema throwline (find it on ebay or arborist supplier stores like FR Jones or Honey Brothers), a 50m roll is about 17-18 quid, it's 1.6mm (the thinner a line is the better, gets less effected by wind), it'll take 300kg to snap it unless it's frayed... I've tested it, made a rope swing out of a single strand, took my weight swinging about on it no problem. You can get it tight as piano wire even over long stretches. When I'm not chucking weights in trees I mainly use it for fencing, amazing stuff!
@@longleaf0 like fly line backer. You can get that shit so tight that it will cut your hands.
Hello from Ireland Robin. Brilliant video, keep up the great content
Hi Robin, That's the way I have always set and cut mine, some carpenters I have seen pull a chalk line and mark it with the chalk but that won't work if a rafter is up a little or down a little as the line will cause the mark to be out or in more and then the Fascia will not be straight . Looks a tidy job as always. Thanks for sharing.
This method work perfectly if there are no large crowns in the rafter,otherwise you need to plum down from line with a level on every rafter
Makes a big difference!
@@ninjasixrr certainly does. Nothing worse than a wavey fascia
Fantastic, thanks for posting the video
Hello from N.ireland robin, great video, and tips as usual... we call them tails here so id a chuckle to myself as id never heard them called feet. Good warning for the saw as its needed for everyone who picks one up...Jimmy
Joinery Works.
Hi Robin, love your roof videos as I learn so much 😀 👍👍.
Totally agree with you about the circular saw's, just take it really slow & be aware of what you're doing.
I've just bought a Makita 355mm beam saw - total monster (for cutting my ridge beams) and you need to be really aware of what you're doing with that !!!
Thank you for the great videos - any more information about the roofing square & app ?
Hope you have a great day.
Regards
Tim
Why not just use a sliding bevel ? Smaller lighter less cumbersome
Hello from Ireland also. Tasty bit of work.
Yip good technique robin very wise with the disclaimer at the start😉🤣
American here. I love your videos and seeing the subtle differences, I must say though, why not cut them all on the floor? That's how we do it here. I suppose part of it may be that we would never have scaffold like that. Anyway keep making videos I'll keep watching them
Hi Skye, I cut the level soffit cut on the ground, but quite often until the roof covering material arrives we will not know exactly how much to cut or leave, we have so many different types of roof coverings here in the UK!!! also I can get an absolute straight line this way!! All the best Skye
Great tips, can I ask~ you put noggins between each rater outside the wall plate with some sort of black ventilation system. Is that to allow airflow and keep vermin out? If so what's it called? Cheers
Bird block I’m guessing it’s an open soffit
@@michaelbrandrick9594 I usually block between the rafters even with closed eaves. It stops the rafters from twisting over time, I usually leave out every fourth one for ventilation, 👍 🔨 🇮🇪
We call them sparrow boards.
Top job Robin and great technique
Good video Robin, like the use of square to plumb down, I'd use spirit level but much quicker with your method. How you getting on with the squares? Interested in purchasing one if you do manage to get something sorted👍.
I would have thought filming using a mobile phone whilst driving, kills more people? Could be wrong 🙄😅🙄
Thats Robins mate filming him. You can see he wasn't holding a phone🙂
Hi Robin,its a pleasure watching you work. Any updates on the new roofing square?
I can’t help but find it ironic that you start off by talking about safety, while driving at 70mph talking into a camera.
I’d much rather some plonker lops his thumb off with a saw than plow into me at 70mph. Or is that just me?
I normally just use a bevel with a string line to mark the feet
Man, so envious that you have your scaffolding at the right height. Seeing as your a lover of good tools, invest in an occidental leather pouch, that one is looking bit tierd.
All that work in 10 mins I think is pretty good. Camera technique showed how lined up it all was. Great quality 👌
i do the same but i make a chalk line first then with my square i scribe my plumb line. easier i think and quicker. and you also have a straight edge. maybe i miss something
Great advice as always from Robin. Sure most of us watched this with scaffold envy for doing a single storey building / extension.
My first thought. I do each one from a ladder
You sound a little bit like Micky Flannigan
Precision work, well done.
Pfuuu
Excelent video! Like 👍 from România 😉 🍷
I 🔔 u
I 👍 u
Awesome video Robin great tips and tricks, So true about the power saw, we would have to cut them by hand for many years until he was happy we could use a hand saw then it was on to the power saws hey, i've still not gone down the cordless route yet to tight i think all the best Tony have a awesome weekend.
When I served my time in the mid 90s. I was into my 3rd year before I was allowed use any power tool. I must say I think it was the best of training. The respect and fear of powertool gets lost as the years roll on. And the" take a chance" approach takes over to get the job done. A great respect for an unforgiving machine is what's needed. 👍
I was on a job years ago and I seen the chippies doing this except their way was to snap a chalk line across the top then walk backwards along the scaff lopping them off with a chainsaw. Probably the roughest s**t I've seen in my life
Ha
What do the black plastic strips on the blocking achieve? seal off insulation perhaps?
Roof ventilation
What is the black DPM/DPC like material on the wood? Is it the same stuff you put on your decking frame?
Reminds me of times past. My favourite carpentry job was always pitching roofs and we work very similar. Last 22 years Carpenter in Australia. Not a pitched roof in site all trussed. I really miss some of the complicated English roof builds with dormers and eyebrows etc. Now I put up numbered jigsaws which is not the same. The nail guns and modern tools help now. Never had them when I started 40 years ago. Love watching your videos keep them coming
I was my uncles apprentice and he used to cut them with a chainsaw 😅
I`ve seen that ! being done
Unusually you pushed the line with the square and so the arrow became a little bent from half way!
The camera did a nice illustration as it disappeared the cut ends on closeup.
Damn cameras!
Enjoyed the vid as ever.
Unusually you pushed the line with the square and so the arrow became a little bent from half way!
The camera did a nice illustration as it disappeared the cut ends on closeup.
Damn cameras!
Enjoyed the vid as ever.
Unusually you pushed the line with the square and so the arrow became a little bent from half way!
The camera did a nice illustration as it disappeared the cut ends on closeup.
Damn cameras!
Enjoyed the vid as ever.
Hi Robin Great video thanks. What are the black ? foam strips for? I. assume it was the upcut at the end that prompted the warning. You could have used the square and marked the other side and cut down? Mike
Neat and efficient, as always. Same way I was taught. Funnily enough, in Australia, we call them rafter tails too
Awesome robin, how do you keep all the sawdust & wood splinters out of you socks, I’ve been building a treehouse this last week & my socks are trashed 😂
For those of us new to circular saws any chance of a video some time. Perhaps do it with a young assistant. Great video, and didn't think the saw use was unreasonable (perhaps I've failed the test then)
Yes the disclaimer was a good idea, 9by 2 ridge? What's the span and Internal height achieved?
Hi robin, Was that just a string line in that reel or chalk line? If it’s a string with the chalk have you got a link? Cheers
Even though we call them rafter tails on the side of the pond, that's exactly how I was taught to do it 15 years ago. Sometimes I'll use a torpedo level for the plum cut. Fascia comes out perfectly straight every time.
Hi Robin great video. Do you have any experience working with the festool HK55c or Mafell Kss50 for this type of work or more generally ?
The way I have always done mine the only thing I note is the wal plate is not always the most accurate due to varying cavity sizes and using face work line is often better
Great video
Very helpful as this is a job I have to do
Thanks 👍🏻
Hi there thanks for the great veideos. I'm in the process of completing my first 2 storey extension and I'm at roof level now. The hipped roof is my general concerns and wondering if you have and general advice?
I'm a yank so I'm ignorant, what's with the pipe at the plate line?
Hi K D we use a ventilation strip to provide ventilation to the cold side over the roof insulation, hope that helps mate
Surely u can chuck a laser line down from a slight height. Unless its too bright to see
I tend to make sure the wall plate is parallel with the brick and make or cut down the existing template and run saw off that - ive also done it robins way too
Here in America those Jorts are slightly amusing
Love the word "jorts" I have worked out what it means!! Nice one!!
Great tip for marking out Robin. Thanks
Those turn ups on your shorts must be a great spot for collecting sawdust.
Hi robin. Where your belt and pouch from ?
Very good work
Where did you mark the cut line with the rafter square?
Nice… so nice
Are you going to put tricoya mdf for facia you do seem to like the stuff.
what is that Black FOAM ROLL Between the RAFTERS ?
Some Sort of SEAL
Hi Joni, That is plastic air vent strip that allows air into the roof void above the final insulation
@@ukconstruction AH !!!!!! Thanks Mate
Keep Videos of Projects Coming - Interesting to Watch and LEARN
Don't forget to add the bird boxes in those open eaves Robin 😉
Great stuff nice and simple many thanks
Do you not have a wormdrive circular saw?
Great videos, I’m learning a lot!
Hello Robin,
Well done, as always. I would have done it the same way myself. Good to warn people about the use of power tools. Most carpenters do not reach retirement with ten fingers. Every time you have to be really careful with the use of the machines.
Keep up the good work.
Greetings from a dutch carpenter.
Great stuff Robin,the cordless circular saws have made this easier than it used to be with a 9 inch circular saw.
Your cameraman's getting really good! How's his carpentry coming along?
Someone get that poor skilly a new blade 😭😪
Can't wait to see the fascia board go up.
How many closed their right eye at 8:25 ?
Your a good bloke saying that robin about safety
Great video.. Put ur tape measure in yer pouch tho 😀
Great video Robin but why don't you cut those bits when you cut the birds mouth etc?
You can actually but if they seat differently, your plate isnt perfect, rogue rafters means your fascia line could wander. More of an issue with shiny plastic fascias.
The force is strong wiv this Jedi !!!!!!!!
Years back i became a dab hand with a small chainsaw and a lekky planer, if you have technique , this is quick and tidy[sharp chain req] trust me , great for big cut roof.🤭💪😇
@@stevehallam6495 for sure steve, this was back in the day, and much bigger timbers then, and the type of timber allowed easy use in terms of accuracy, the kiln dried stuff today...well, haha sounding my age lol😅🌞
Glad to see I’m doing it the same way as the master. 👌. Nothing bugs me more than a wonky line on the fascia.
Why not use a sliding bevel
A sliding bevel can easily be knocked out of true, and also the stock is short and sawn timber can throw out your angle
Great idea for the exposed bottom of rafters 🍀🇮🇪🤟
Hi Sir I copy your tips & techniques at work and my co-workers think I am quite skilled little do they know I am learning this from the best, thanks for all these videos it has helped me getting a raise in my wages.
Kind Regards
Thats brilliant well done you!!
Who doesn't on occasions pull the blade guard forward and hold it so you can move the saw through slightly faster? I've seen much worse practice on sites including working a table saw without the riving knife or guards on.
I yank the guards off every tool I own, been doing it coming up on 40 years and I've only lost 3 fingers in all those years
Hienoa työtä hyvä asenne työhön ja hyvät työkalut Hyvää jatkoa👍🇫🇮
Great video. I'm no carpenter or joiner but was wondering if you put the string line underneath rather than on top then it would be quicker to place your square each time to mark the vertical?
It's just easier to set it up from the top as you can see what your doing but there's nothing to say you can't reverse it I've just never see it done personally 🤔🔨
You're the best Robin 👍👍👍
Robin smashing RUclips at the minuet, camera man upgrade as well, absolute master craftsmen, would love to have been you apprentice. Keep it up mate
This is the beauty of RUclips; we can all be Robin's apprentice!
Its all in the detail.. Nice one Robin
please rob show us how you tied that knot at 3.47. I've watched it so many times and still don't get it it looks so simple
Put youtube in slow motion
What are the black things on the bottom row of noggins?
These are plastic ventilation strips to vent the cold side of the insulation
@@ukconstruction Much appreciated.
What is the black tubing you have nailed from one end to the other? Nice work.
Hi Rich, this is a vent strip to vent the roof over the insulation
You are the coolest dude!!!
Very good video ,thanks
Why aren't you able to use the pattern rafter to copy the feet as well? edited for feet instead of tails!
It’s never accurate enough, any bow in the timbers will cause the plumb cuts to not be in line. Also, using a pattern rafter is not the best way to Mark your rafters. Measure then use either a square or a mini pattern
Great work Robin, nice now we have these dinky skillys aye
Yes indeed
You’re an artist son
Great camera work !!
One line Robin!
What’s the function of the black bits between the rafters? Can’t quite see in video..
They are plastic strip vents, to vent the space above rafter insulation. Can go above fascia.
Geralt of Rivia grand! Thanks. Thought they might be vents, but in some shots they looked more like armaflex.
Do u have a video describing your method for laying out and cutting hip rafters? Thank you
Hi Tim, I have one on skillbuilder look under videos and browse down and you will see it or google How to cut a hip rafter and its there, let me know if you see it?
@@ukconstruction Awesome! Thank you, Robin