$80 Bearings!! Are Bronson Ceramics Worth It? - Whale Talk
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2021
- Find out why ceramics bearings are faster than steel and how to clean your bearings.
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@whalebonesworld tries to break some personal bests with some help from the Bronson Ceramic bearings.
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PUT RESPECT ON RON WHALEY'S NAME.
Did a whole Mr. Rogers episode about skateboard bearings.
The future generations need people like RON WHALEY.
Much Love!
“Are y’all finished or are y’all done....”
dude, best skateboarding review channel EVER!!!!
I've now watched all of these Whale Talks simply because Ron is the man! Don't stop making these! Lifetime skater still learning here and there from the master. Also, get as much footage in those Santa Cruz hills during the spring $$$
Thank you! Good 'ol UCSC paths. Cheers to skateboarding!
This store does the best reviews. Always a pleasure watching them.
Deer with the background props
Ron, you're persuasive.... I purchased the Bronson Ceramics right after finishing watching the video. I can't wait to get them. Big fan of your videos.
Really awesome and reasonable priced for a bday or end of school presents! Bearings, cleaner and instructions. Very good idea for the younger crowd too. 🦾👍
I have a set of ceramic bearings that are about 15 years old. And there a cheaper Chinese no name. Then I have zealous built in ceramics and bones race reds (steel) with built ins for the same price. And the zealous ceramic is well worth the moneys so that made me think if only the Bronsons ceramic was out when I was shopping for bearing last year. Ceramics are just better. No matter who makes them.
Undoubtedly the best video I’ve ever seen on bearings. Best in that the information was presented thoroughly, and I feel like I learned a lot of things that I haven’t seen explained elsewhere.
I did buy some Bronson Ceramics and they weren’t for me. They seemed to slow down pretty quick. It’s possible that they are more for people who skate in the park or skate fast bc I don’t do either of those things. I mostly skate flat ground street spots and I do a lot of cruising.
Either way thanks for the video…saved and liked.
I came for the Ron, son. Left with some Bronson.
Thank you! Hope you like them as much as I do. -Ron
Very clear steps and i'm sold right away!!! Gonna order some right now!
I really like your style to make videos. Keep the great work! 👍👍
Nice deer fam in the background! They like “bearings?.....nahhh....imma stay on the grass”
0:42 I felt that going over my head 😂
I've used them for about 2 years now and they still run perfectly fine. I love these bearings and can really recommend them. They really seem to last forever.
Right on! Thanks for the feedback!
I like the inro. You are going so fast and ollie over your camera and then it switches to how you roll away. So dope I want to learn that I just got a tripod to.
Excellent video! Thank you for posting!
very helpeful and informative many thanks!!!
Legit the best video I have ever seen in regards to bearings. I just switched to ALL Bronsons. Bronson is the best bearing company. I tested all of them. I think I spent over 200$. Bronson is absolutely the fastest. I'm a cruiser dude.
Waiting for mine in the mail can’t wait!!!
THE COOLEST BRONSON BEARING AD EVER MADE!!!
Very useful informative video. it is fun to watch
My guy 🤜🔥🤛
these videos are so good
Thank you! ☺️
Eric Dressen says he's tried every bearing there is and these are the best...says a lot. My next ones will probably be these...
That's a solid testimonial right there. Dressen's been skating fast forever.
I’m a bearing person. Always have been. That sound got me addicted to cleaning them.
Amphetamines hybrid bearings are basically an abec 7 with one ceramic ball and six steel. I have legit sank my board in the river, I ride it in the rain and the bearings ride perfectly fine! They've picked up a little bit of that crunchy noise but they still roll for at least 2 minutes
I’ve been running my RAWS for over a year and they are still just as fast as when I got them. Really looking forward to trying these ceramics.
I’m sold they’re coming in tomorrow!
I just pressed Bronson Raw’s into my freestyle skate and I have the Ceramics in my street boards(2) I was so impressed the raws have tungsten
Plated racers. I would clean bearings for my friends. I’ve been a bearing nerd for almost 3 decades🦖🦉🦖. STAY RAD!!!
Ok, i just bought them.... I noticed simply SO BIG DEFFERENCE between noname ABEC11 bearings and SPITFIRE BURNERS.... But after seeing this video, i had to just order them.... Looking forward for eternal riding after one push ^^
p.s. wanted just to say at the end, this was simply amazing professional video with very positive (looks like) person and it was very entertaining watching it... TX!
Thank you! Hope you love the bearings... and the kit!
Great video, thorough and informative ✨🌹✨🌹✨
Damn....this was the most awesomest video of all time, you should win SOTY for this. I'm definitely a bearing person. Recently my bearings were making a crackling noise, almost like the crown was grinding and it started to drive me crazy, I cleaned them twice, even made a bearing cleaner device and put speed cream in them but still no luck. They looked cool, the FKD Lightning Green ones, so I didn't want to give up. They still crackle unfortunately and will toss in the towel. I guess I'll grab some ceramics, mainly cuz I skate mostly parks and I love when my board feels like it slips from under me from being too fast. I'll grab some G3s as well cuz I usually ride mine raw. Thanks so much for the info. If anyone knows the reason behind the crackling noise please share, those green bearings are too cool to give up on, THANKS!!! :P
these look like a good deal. I always use my bearings for a couple years at the least, even if they get junked up. By the end of those years, that board is worse for wear, haha! at that point, I'm replacing damn near everything on the board. I'd like to get some components I don't have to replace every time I get a new setup. I've got some nice venture trucks I reuse often, but getting some bearings to keep around sounds like a great bonus. after that, it's just the deck, tape, and wheels. I suppose the bushings too.
Might have to try them. Been riding bones ceramic. These are half the price. Nice
4:52 Ron, is that a Darren Navarrette Neighbor's board?? Sick!
Ha! Yes! The Nash Executioner. My first board as well as many other skaters my age. Absolute garbage (the Nash one, not Darren's) but nostalgic. Had to get one from eBay.
Thanks Ron
Wow that ollie at the beginning was fast as fuck
Hard balls braddah
Awesome vid!
Thank you!
ceramics are worth it plus the cleaning kit!!!
I have G3's :D got it in south africa years ago :D still feels good, but they needed a deep clean, brushed and steeping them 24 hours now :D
Super hard to separate good marketing from fact,. Ended up buying all of Bronsons line and bones line (including Swiss ceramics) to get my own opinion. Currently on the Bronson cermanics, about 3 weeks in but they are nice. Unsure if they are faster than raws out the box though
It's literally all marketing. Most of the stuff that is objectively better, just doesn't matter for skateboarding. And there are downsides to ceramic bearings too (for example, they can still break on impact). The whole denting steel balls vs smooth ceramic balls is also kind of questionable stuff. We're mostly talking theoretical performance gains here. Most steel ball bearings will have a good enough performance. (And let's be honest, who goes 60mph on a skateboard, out in the desert, jumping of 10 stair sets for months on end? Because that's really the type of scenario where it would 'matter'.) And sometimes being harder doesn't equate to being more durable at all, as energy impact and dispersion is dealt with in less fluid and forgiving ways. Think of bouncy rubber on shoes for impact protection, versus hard flip flops that hurt when jumping. Different for different purposes, but not superior. For bearings a lot of the durability is compromised by how dirty it gets, how rust plays a role and how that impacts the balls. I don't want to hate on this video, but for reasons of cost, value and durability alone there's a reason why people are satisfied with just the G3s or whatever the cheapest ones are.
It’s good to know because we have a hill to the desert you go maybe 63 max in a draft train and it also gets over 100 degrees consistently in the summer. Never thought of that aspect...
What was best Bronson ceramic or bones Swiss ceramic?
@@palleh7742 swiss by alot imo. dont notice much on the bronsons. like a bit faster than g3s imo but not the extra $50 fast.
@@PHeMoX Harder = more brittle.
Do you need Ceramics? What kind of Skating do you do? Do you have a Vert Pipe in your Backyard? Do you have a drained “Pool?” Do you just use the local Park? Is your Skateboard your transportation? Really, most of these are going to benefit from Ceramic through conservation of Energy. Is a RUF CTR Anniversary sweet? Absolutely. Do you NEED one? no.
I'm just getting back into bombing after a ten year break...these bearings are worth the money of you have it, not needed but if you can get these....they are nice. I live in the pnw and these are great for wet riding. Iv got another set coming to fit in my dry wheels.
i just discovered that i am a bearing person.
Whale Talk forever. My man is like 45 and did the best looking straight ollie down a six stair possible.
Oh and I bought a set of ceramics.
Thank you so much!!! 47 now. Sometimes it's annoying that I can't do all the things I used to but skateboarding is as fun as ever. Hope you like the ceramics! -Ron
Who threw something at Ron at 5:27 and what do I win for noticing it?
hahaha good eyes
Good R&D with T.P. and NHS
The Legend! Tim P.
Minor speed wobbles in filas. Ron has that control
Thanks for the info! Have you done any testing without spacers? I feel like I get more speed with my swiss that way but am looking into bronson ceramics.
LOL i want to see someone test out the 2k bearings even tho not needed. Thats dope the ceramics come with the kit. I big fan of Reds but do like G3 and really dig the Raws that ive tried recently. Damn does fila make skate shoes?
10/10 intro man
Great bearing
i used to use abec 7 and 9 bearings.. But as soon as i tried bones reds,swisd ceramics and super reds,, i was hooked and never skated abec again
good video
Id like to try some 6 ball Raws, or maybe 6 ball ceramic Raws
those ricta 86a go really fast :) my set went from 57 to 48mm in a few months time to get a new one !
what's the difference with the older ones and the new cored and chrome clouds ?
Indeed. I skate the 87a oj keyframes. Impossible to go back to a hard wheel. Way too slow.
probably could have cut this vid in half and still got the same info in it, but it was worth it for the deer. :)
I have a set of ricta like this as well, they are oval
Ceramics here I come!
I got mine, and it's like skating on butter, I was like it didn't know boarding was ever this easy
I just got my cleaning kit but thought the lid was a defective that it did not snap on all the way down. And I came across your clip and found out that it was normal being loose. Sir, would you be so kind and please tell us why the lid does not snap on if you know? Doesn't it make more sense if the lid'd seal the opening tight?
Great question. You really have to hold it tight when shaking. I think even if it snapped on it would still leak if you didn't hold it all the way down tight. It could have had a rubber sealed top but I think that would more expensive and eventually deteriorate and leak. For case use longevity and to keep the price as low as possible would be my answer.
Best reviews. Best reviews by a skater.
Im Sooold ! 🔥🏁🔥
Genuine question - can you shatter a ceramic ball? Which height + rider weight must be? Some people claim, but I never saw anyone do it.
I've never known a skater who broke ceramics balls from skate impact.
So wait, G3's are actually faster than RAWS? Why are they more money if the G3's are better? Also, I bought some cheaper ceramic bearings and are great, but never tried them on drops because I heard ceramics are actually weaker than steel bearings and so I never wanted to try ceramics on my street board because I was scared to explode the bearings like I have heard people doing before. I would definitely give these a shot if I was certain they were gonna be strong and not explode on a bad landing like I have heard ceramics are well known for. I have them specifically on my longboard because I didn't want to blow them up ollieing an 8 stair or something. Also, I really appreciate these videos, even after 13 years of skateboarding, thank you very much and keep up the great work!!
The Raws cost more because the races are coated with Tungsten - which helps dry lubricate them so everything can be exposed and stay fast. G3's don't need the Tungsten since everything is enclosed.
The Bronson Ceramics use the Silicon Nitride balls and are very durable and we've had no issues with anyone breaking them. They'll definitely hold up to an 8 stair drop.
Thank you! Skateboarding is the best! -Ron
Hi i has very positive experience with Si3N4 (black balls). Only hard luck 6 ceramic was slower VS other steel bearings as Bones swiss ,swiss 6, bronson g3. Other ceramic was on another level of speed acceleration and smoothness and way better VS Bones swiss ,swiss 6, bronson g3. 4 years on different Si3N4 bearings and no one bearing failed. Only changed 2 seals. Changing lube and cleaning them every usually its 5-6 months as sound became louder and more friction. Use all washers spacers as it should be. Grease was super thin lithium MoS2 water resistant cleaning with gasoline. All 4 sets of ceramic still alive and used in different set of wheels. Compared to brand new doesnt feel any speed lost and smoothness.
They do degrade, they eat away the race/inner trucks over time. But by time this happens, you wouldve been through a dozen of quality steel bearings.
@@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH the steel degraded after around 2 years. I used Si3N4 balls and put them instead of steel balls in bones super reds, and bones swiss 7. No difference bearings became exactly as new. Plastic cages, seals from old ceramic bearings now became backspace parts. After steel degraded i think bearings lost 50-60% performance minimum
@@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH its doesnt true 1 year used Bones swiss 7 steel doesnt degraded, but most bearings degraded very fast its true. And because of this many peoples thinking cleaning doesnt make any sense. I cannot say how long it takes to degraded Bones swiss because after i buyed Si3N4 all steel bearings became as separate spare parts
@@acgwestsidesb6410 Interesting experiment, thanks for sharing! Yes, I think going from steel balls to ceramic balls makes sense if you can get them cheap and their diameter is matching, but the other way around can be problematic IMHO. This is my own purest theory, but ceramic balls are much harder, especially SiNitride, than any metal, but the races are always made from metal, so on every vertical force application (like jumping), depending on your weight and acceleration, ceramic balls are way more likely to make a dent in the metallic race, which they will then flatten but will get more play are, which will likely add more friction. Metal balls are as soft as the race, so they are likely to just compress/decompress instead of denting as they are closer to same hardness as the itself brace. To give an analogy, like a toast with tomato over it, versus a toast with a piece of metal over it. The tomato will take part of energy and then transfer some to the toast, so they might both deform, but spread it, the piece of flat metal in contrast will send all energy to the toast, pushing through it. For the same reason, used races after metal balls should be full of cracks (what actually blocks the metal balls), but more or less in acceptable overall shape when it comes to the form; where the race after ceramic balls will have lots of room to play, thus the metal balls in that race will have even more friction than the old ceramic balls. I have both types myself, bought a pack of black SiNis on 56mm 86a conicals when I started practicing in skatepark (because metals I had back then were garbage and did lots of drag), which I then later transfered into 70mm cruiser wheels and got a bunch of good regular metal bearings for the skatepark wheels as soon as I started practicing jumps and drops. TL;DR ceramics are excellent and economical for horizontal movement, but they degrade on jumps, metal are the other way around. Best
What about globe bearings? I got a globe complete for my first skateboard, and I know a small amount about skate companies, but what is your review on them
I got bones reds but idk im thinking of just getting these if i get a stimmy
Man get urself a whole new setup if u get a stimmy lol.
You ever try Oust bearings?
Ron has the best ads in the game... but I'm still not going to spend more on bearings than my deck. I know they're probably amazing but jesus.
What speedometer app was he using, I bomb alot of hills and would like to know how fast I'm going
It's just called "Speedometer" in the App Store. Super easy to use.
Been a bearing person since since 2001
Ceramic bearings friction on a metal surface will wear out faster vs steel on steel. Unless maintained and lubricated frequently they will wear quickly.
This is why you don’t store ceramic knives next to steel knives. They will become dull and ruined.
I bought ceramic Bones bearings once and they lasted 4 months
As a bearing person, Bones has me sold on their Race Reds
They last long AF
I would have to agree. Bones are the king of the hill, thus far.
Bronson ceramics are faster than bones swiss ceramics, I would know my buddy has a set and my board is way faster than his
Not sure about cleaning the shields with the alcohol. Won't that attack the rubber?
I feel like it would probably. I'd just give the shields a solid wipe down with a separate small dry clean towel
I had a set of Bronson 3 and the ball crown in all of them had broken in many pieces. I hope that doesn't happen with the ceramic bearings... Doesn't matter how good the balls are if the crown breaks and jams up everything.
The crown? Or the cage?
18:49 yea I believe it’s 99% alcohol 👀😂
hahahaha :)
Dude you look like a cross between a Gazelle and Joseph Gordon Levitt. That's a compliment!
Ha. I'll take it as one. Could do worse than JGL.
Which one should I choose, BRONSON RAW or CERAMICS?
Raws for the hissy spin. Ceramics for speed longevity and the cleaning unit.
I’ve just install them following your guide on how to properly install bearing into wheels and deck. But why aren’t they fast?? I paid for ceramics but they’re not faster? What am I missing here? I loosened the bolts to give the wheels space to run but NOTHING … I ride Spitfire wheels 54
Give them a little time. Brand new bearings are loaded up with lubricant so they don't automatically spin forever by hand. Rolling under your feet they'll be super fast.
ceramic is good for speed, but isnt also fragile for impact like drops? compared to competition bones swiss bearings?
Some ceramic bearings are a bit more fragile than steel. It depends on what their made of. The silicon nitride is super hard and durable. We've had no issue with them breaking. We've got some heavy hitters riding them too.
@@NHSSkateDirect thanks for the info G.
What are better the g3 pros or the raws
Both are great. I'd say the G3's are faster and prefer them unless you like to hear that loud, dry spin of a raw, shieldless bearing.
When I clean my bearings with IPA
I always use VooDoo Ranger ! 🍺
I'm going oust moc 9
What are those Blue/Pink Wheels?
Ricta Cores Neon Pink 52mm, 101a. We're out of them at the nhsfunfactory.com but I see some of our retailers still have them. Try skateusa.com or boardparadise.
How are you not getting speed wobble at 30mph
what are these like compared to bones Swiss 6?
A very high end steel bearing. Bones has an excellent reputation for all their bearings. I ridden the OG Bones Swiss and those are great. Supposedly these should skate like those but since the balls are bigger less friction and even faster. However I've never skated them so I can't say how they feel.
I have multiple sets of both and I believe the Swiss 6 are faster out of the box. The Bronsons are super quiet but not quite as fast initially, though they seem to speed up with break-in and are much lighter.
This kills me to say this because I Love ❤️ G2’s and G3’the price point and quality is above bones. I’ve skate the Bronson ceramics for 1yr+ and they aren’t as good as the bones ones. The machining or steel didn’t hold up like the bones ones did I had bones for 4+ years before ones started to pop. At about a 1.5yr I started to pop the Bronsons. 😢
If NHS sees this and wants to stay competitive. I’ll leave an answer to my feedback. The part that failed was the cages. I noticed they started to get brittle and break. They degraded quicker than the competitors my guess is that after cleaning the bearing in alcohol over time the plastic cages crack.
1:47 - The way Ron says Debris sounds more like he's having a difficult time recalling a painful relationship with a woman named Debra 😂
Oh that Debbie.
Deer!
Hi anyone test them VS other ceramic bearings Si3N4 or Bones swiss? What results?
Bones Swiss Ceramics are definitely a step above the Bronsons. The Super Swiss 6s feel faster out of the box as well, although the Bronsons feel like they break in and get faster over time. The Bronsons are the most quiet and arguably the smoothest.
@@jonathandantonio649 thanks but i have Black Panthers ceramic and broken in to full performance was around 2 active summer months. From box they was slightly faster then Bones swiss 6 but much much smoother and roll farther. I think bronson g3 i have on cruizer board have very long break in process too
@@jonathandantonio649 I think metal cheaper and doesnt polish enough because of that broken in period so long. After i put inside Bones super reds/swiss 2 years old Si3N4 balls from Black Panthers i didnt have broken in period process again
I was very distracted by future dinner walking behind him.
Which camera do you use?
Take a shot every time he says bearings and tell your mom I said “Heeey”
Comparing them with Swiss Ceramics which ones are faster/better? man that's like $100 difference..
The Bronson Ceramics tested faster than Swiss Ceramics on our lab machines. If you're interested in how those machines work: ruclips.net/video/lbSkoP8m_js/видео.html
Under your feet is a bit harder to tell. Both are about as fast as you can get as far a skate bearing. I thought the Bronson felt a little faster and yes. $100 is quite a bit. Also, the bearing cleaning kit is a nice bonus.
@@NHSSkateDirect I’ve ordered my brosnson ceramics and cleaning kit + speed oil. I don’t regret it after installing them they are nice and smooth for sure. Love you guys keep skating trending more and more 👍🏽👍🏽🔥🔥
I own multiple sets of both bearings, and the Swiss Ceramics are better without question. That said the Bronsons are really good and probably the quiet bearings I've ever ridden. You won't be disappointed.
Spacers?? To use or not to use..?
I say use if you got 'em and want your bearings to last longer.
Please upload more
Looks like you are at the Cell Games…
I just purchased the Bones Swiss a day before watching this... Should I take them back and purchase these? Guessing I probable can't go wrong with either but the Bronson has a cleaning kit included.
Just getting back into the sport after 35 years and so much has changed (for the better) so please be patient with me. Thanks.
No you will be very happy with your Bones Swiss (although I prefer the Bones Super Swiss 6) and the Bronson Ceramics won't be much, if any, faster, although they are noticeably lighter and perhaps the most quiet bearings I've ridden (although they do seem to get louder after break-in).
As bearings go, Bones Swiss Ceramics are a cut above all others I've tried; if you have the money they are worth every penny and last a LONG time. They are FAST. After that I like the aforementioned Super Swiss 6, and the Bronson Ceramics.
I have multiple sets of all 3 and you can't go wrong with any of them, but I would say the Bronsons are probably the quietest but slowest of the 3 out of the box, although they do seem to get faster with break-in. The Super Swiss 6 feel very fast and smooth right out of the box but are definitely heavier. The Swiss Ceramics are just amazing though.
@@jonathandantonio649 So it turns out that I had the Bones Swiss but they weren't ceramic. The white box fooled me. So I returned them and bought two boxes of the Bronson ceramics featured in this video. Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
No problem, you would have been happy with your Bones Swiss but will very much enjoy your Bronsons. They're smooth, quiet, and fast.
I've been skating the same set of Bones Swiss for 22 years.
BONES!!! the bones ceramics are $112
Just bought me a set of these, smooth as fuck so far!
Nice! Enjoy. Yesterday my 2 friends that ride them both said they were the first bearings they ever put in that they felt were fast enough to truly notice.