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Didnt expect that , as the movies have commonalites as there arent too many movies about anomal eco terrorism, but they are different, and for over the hedge, we need hope so, thats good it ends in a ell yeah we can fight mood. Also that , nnice of the response video to comments :D
The bitter-sweetness of pom poko's ending still sticks with me to this day. Everything is different, most of it for the worse, but there a moments when you can dance with your friends and family in the moonlight, and maybe that's enough.
I LOVE Pom Poko. I did an essay on it for a Japanese course I did. Nothing as good as this, but the movie is so rich even my dumb butt could grasp enough depth to write something passable. This analysis makes me wonder what parallels can be seen between post-war boomer stories and climate crisis gen z stories
Man, I grew up with Over the Hedge, and while I've seen or at least heard of most of Ghibli's movies I had ZERO idea Pom Poko existed Guess I'm adding it to the backlog... 🤔
I just discovered that it wasn't Watership that traumatised me as a kid, it was "The Animals of Farthing Woods". Kinda similar premise, but oh boy. Oh boy. The deaths in that one. Horrifying. I still appreciate having watched it, but man, no wonder I am the way I am.
IIRC the reason that Bigwig survives the entire text is that Addam's daughters vetoed his death during the story's original form - An improvised story to keep two children occupied during long car rides. Wouldn't be opposed to seeing more Watership Down related content from you - Seeing it show up in a comparison of Over the Hedge to Pom Poko was a treat for sure (I do think the more natural comparison to Watership Down is The Animals of Farthing Wood, but that's probably my own biases)
Yes, its definitly one of their best and deserves to be remembered more, its also less edgy than mononoke probably too. And grounded. And i like mononoke but the feeling at the end, pom poko is a masterpiece of a very , its gentle but dark. Over the hedge is in its own right and we need motivation to fight so a more positive bent there is aproviate
pom poko was one of my favorite ghibli films as a kid and i'm so glad people still remember it. isao takahata is possibly a better storyteller than miyazaki
Late comment but maybe worth thinking about; Sense Pon Poko came out the increasing urbanization and shrinking population of Japan mean that the wilderness of Honshu is now expanding
I mean all around Japan has held to more of its wilderness and traditional culture than most other westernized countries, complete defeat was in fact avoided it seems
Always love to see Takahata get some exploration. American audiences seem to only care about Ghibli films made by Miyazaki, but Takahata's first two features are just as good as anything his partner made. Every time I rewatch Pom Poko I wish I enjoyed it more - I love Only Yesterday so much, and PP's themes and ideas are so good (as expressed here)... but I think this film's more scattershot plot just grips me less effectively than Takahata's previous works.
That is a really well articulated point in your essay, the shift the USA’s culture from the mid 00s to now. As a later millennial who’s grown up in post 9/11, post Housing Crisis America, there is a real sense of defeat and strife in life that makes it hard for me to accept the idea of ‘things will work out.’ Pom Poko’s theme of continuing on in the face of defeat, taking what small victories you can, do resonate more with me.
17:20 Honestly, I think this also is a great description of Tolkien's works. He was always so vehement against allegory, but it's hard not to see influences of his life in the text. I do like his foreword on the subject in Fellowship; the haunting statement of "By 1918 all but one of my close friends were dead."
I mean he said all that mainly in regards to his books being taken as an allegory of christianism, an idea he hated even in other stories and played into his dislike of other works such as the chronicles of narnia. Despite the lord of the rings clearly having a lot of Christian undertones and being obviously influenced by Tolkien's life and upbringing, one must remember his intention to write the story was to give England a mythological like story which he felt lacked, despite this I don't think anyone can read the retaking of the shire and not see it as an obvious hate letter to industrial and modern development after the war
2017 Me that had been memeing about Over the Hedge being the best anime of all time: *🎶Vindicated, I am selfish, I am wrong, I am right, I swear I'm right, swear I knew it all along!🎶*
As someone doing a-level english, your remarks about waffling with context are distressing but moreso greatly appreciated. You are really great at structuring essays so this was a very entertaining and insightful watch. Ghibli's films do often feature post/anti-war and environmental messaging as you may know so I'd be interested to see you link those in the future maybe - especially if you can see something even deeper! (If the copyright claimers don't smite you into dust for it that is :p)
"drawn and illustrated in lavish, ekphrastic detail" - always nice to learn a new word, thanks for that :) Great video, impressively eloquently scripted and presented, you present an amusing comparison between animated rodent-retaliation films. PomPoko is a bittersweet delight. And I am genuinely one of those people scarred by the film of Watership Down - I watched it on TV aged five with my parents - I guess they didn't realise what it would be like but they didn't stop me watching once that became clear either - and some of those visceral flesh-tearing bloody scenes haunt me to this day, this film was my first true loss of innocence ;)
This video popped up in my feed a few hours after watching Pom Poko for the first time, funnily enough. At some point between finishing the movie and this video showing up, I said to my girlfriend something like "isn't there like a dreamworks movie with the same premise? This one is so much better."
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the comic strip Over the Hedge was based on since you wrnt into the history of both Pom Poko's director and Richard Adams.
To me, there's far more direct a link between Watership Down or Pom Poko & their original authors' experiences than there is between OtH's movie & the comic strip that inspired it. It's also a question of scope - there's always another rabbit hole (or 10) you can go down while making a video like this, but if you try to bring in every relevant context/intertext, you end up making far fewer videos. Not so bad a thing if you're confident each video will perform well, or if you've got another reliable source of income, but at present, I can't really afford every video taking a month in the oven.
@@PillarofGarbage It was just more at least acknowledging the comic strip and its influences in the relevant section rather than acting like the thing was created wholesale by Dreamworks. Good vid otherwise.
Sadly, no matter how good the film's story or message or characters are, it is always going to be a niche cult film in North America. Just like Over The Hedge's problems revolve around a sack of nuts, Pom Poko's lack of exposure in the west also stems from sacks of nuts. I'm surprised POG got through the whole video without mentioning this problem: the film is filled with wall to wall Tanuki balls. It's part of the folklore in Japan that most people grow up with (Tanuki's nertz are signs of prosperity and the source of their shapeshifting power) so to the native audience it was no big deal. To eeryone else, it can be jarring. And it's not like the tanuki sacks are just a background element--they figure prominently in the story. Humans are assaulted and possibly killed by overinflated nertz. Everyone is impressed when one of the masters reveal the carpet they're standing on is his transformed sack. At one point, the "death ship" that sails down the river packed with Tanuki is made form one grand old master tanuki's transformed scrotum. So those of you who might be wondering why more people don't talk about this film more, especially given it's a Ghibli film... well, now you know.
It’s no accident I dropped the ball on the balls! I do actually have a tanuki-scrotum-centred video idea that I was thinking of making down the road - so I thought I’d save up all testicular commentary in case I end up making that one
I feel obliged to spread the word of “pronouncing it ‘jib-lee’” the way they do. ;-) I guess technically Miyazaki would pronounce it closer to ‘jib-oo-ri’ with the center vowel fairly elided, but regardless. Just the J sound starter is all we really desire in life.
I was having a lot of inocent fun laughing at the silly raccons, then suddenly the tv said something like "5 people died", and i was like "no freaking way" and started laughing because of the shock value. It was a fun film with a strong message, but not one i can show to my 10yo sibilings sadly.
I mean its fair pom poko is oriented on japanese themselves, a stand in for tradition and capitalism?! And i think is more also a cautionary tale and that there is hope to adaprt somehow, and its rough but there? Yes enviromentalism is there but also tied within older Thats the idea, the tanuki are opriented a lot ion comfy village communities I mean its a different movie than a more optimistic hopeful you can fight about enviromentalism anf that there is hope, Both do have the importance to protect what environment ther is to but admitedly fifferent. Like the tanuki really remind people to preserve at least some? And to care about the community you need to hold out? I feel the sense that the movie tries to imply that ther eis community out there just way harde to see too than, in a village? Ok the urbanisation villages narritives seem to show yeah in the village ones its more wholresome but its still there, and oddly hopeful? But also over the edge more hopeful is, modern needed really and , also important, and its meant to motivate, so, thats great.
Just for clarity, I'm just commenting to give the video engagement, I'm faking outrage cause I never thought of the two in the same vein cause I just love Pompoko and didn't like over the hedge.
Its not, also pom poko isa about urbanisation villages , tradition and remind what can be kept While over the hedge being more positive if not naive , yeah wants to inspire, And does, while pom poko is yeah there are traditions and community even if life is, , its several themes really, which over the hedge isnt, its pretty straighforward and , good its a movie wit ha message that does it well.
It’s come up a couple of times in my videos so far. Check out my video ‘The Limits of the Multiverse’ from last year, or I also reference it in the Patreon/RUclips Member exclusive video ‘Dying of Stress’ from the start of this year. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head, at least. Oh, and I think it _maybe_ gets some play in my video ‘The Trial of Cassian Andor’, too.
This video is sponsored by Aura - get your two-week trial here! aura.com/pillarofgarbage
And if you want more discussion on these films, there's also a short cut script section available to read now for Patreon and RUclips Members!
www.patreon.com/posts/endnote-pom-poko-111427410?Link&
Didnt expect that , as the movies have commonalites as there arent too many movies about anomal eco terrorism, but they are different, and for over the hedge, we need hope so, thats good it ends in a ell yeah we can fight mood.
Also that , nnice of the response video to comments :D
Pillar is officially in its Over the Hedge Era I see.
Iconic, I love to see it😊
You scared me for a second, I thought it was some kind of AI "what if this but MIYAZAKI??" thing
_pillar of garbage AI slop pivot when_
@@PillarofGarbagenever, hopefully.
I was nervous
@@PillarofGarbage Pillar of Garbage? More like Pillar of...um...
Well-played, Mr. Pillar Man.
SAME I WAS TERRIFIED 😊
Over the Pillar, Under the Garbage.
The bitter-sweetness of pom poko's ending still sticks with me to this day. Everything is different, most of it for the worse, but there a moments when you can dance with your friends and family in the moonlight, and maybe that's enough.
I LOVE Pom Poko. I did an essay on it for a Japanese course I did. Nothing as good as this, but the movie is so rich even my dumb butt could grasp enough depth to write something passable.
This analysis makes me wonder what parallels can be seen between post-war boomer stories and climate crisis gen z stories
Man, I grew up with Over the Hedge, and while I've seen or at least heard of most of Ghibli's movies I had ZERO idea Pom Poko existed
Guess I'm adding it to the backlog... 🤔
I just discovered that it wasn't Watership that traumatised me as a kid, it was "The Animals of Farthing Woods". Kinda similar premise, but oh boy. Oh boy. The deaths in that one. Horrifying. I still appreciate having watched it, but man, no wonder I am the way I am.
While people are making 9 hour video essays on how the Acolyte shot their dog. You on the other hand decided to make actual great content.
Different content for different tastes right
IIRC the reason that Bigwig survives the entire text is that Addam's daughters vetoed his death during the story's original form - An improvised story to keep two children occupied during long car rides.
Wouldn't be opposed to seeing more Watership Down related content from you - Seeing it show up in a comparison of Over the Hedge to Pom Poko was a treat for sure (I do think the more natural comparison to Watership Down is The Animals of Farthing Wood, but that's probably my own biases)
I love that you brought Watership Down into this; I actually never saw the film but the book changed me when I read it for sure.
Pom Poko is my second-favorite Ghibli film after Nausicaa and I am so stoked you covered it! Here's hoping more people give it a look.
Yes, its definitly one of their best and deserves to be remembered more, its also less edgy than mononoke probably too. And grounded. And i like mononoke but the feeling at the end,
pom poko is a masterpiece of a very , its gentle but dark.
Over the hedge is in its own right and we need motivation to fight so a more positive bent there is aproviate
pom poko was one of my favorite ghibli films as a kid and i'm so glad people still remember it. isao takahata is possibly a better storyteller than miyazaki
Late comment but maybe worth thinking about; Sense Pon Poko came out the increasing urbanization and shrinking population of Japan mean that the wilderness of Honshu is now expanding
I mean all around Japan has held to more of its wilderness and traditional culture than most other westernized countries, complete defeat was in fact avoided it seems
Always love to see Takahata get some exploration. American audiences seem to only care about Ghibli films made by Miyazaki, but Takahata's first two features are just as good as anything his partner made. Every time I rewatch Pom Poko I wish I enjoyed it more - I love Only Yesterday so much, and PP's themes and ideas are so good (as expressed here)... but I think this film's more scattershot plot just grips me less effectively than Takahata's previous works.
That is a really well articulated point in your essay, the shift the USA’s culture from the mid 00s to now. As a later millennial who’s grown up in post 9/11, post Housing Crisis America, there is a real sense of defeat and strife in life that makes it hard for me to accept the idea of ‘things will work out.’
Pom Poko’s theme of continuing on in the face of defeat, taking what small victories you can, do resonate more with me.
Pillar of Garbage Over the Hedge era is real
17:20
Honestly, I think this also is a great description of Tolkien's works. He was always so vehement against allegory, but it's hard not to see influences of his life in the text. I do like his foreword on the subject in Fellowship; the haunting statement of "By 1918 all but one of my close friends were dead."
I mean he said all that mainly in regards to his books being taken as an allegory of christianism, an idea he hated even in other stories and played into his dislike of other works such as the chronicles of narnia. Despite the lord of the rings clearly having a lot of Christian undertones and being obviously influenced by Tolkien's life and upbringing, one must remember his intention to write the story was to give England a mythological like story which he felt lacked, despite this I don't think anyone can read the retaking of the shire and not see it as an obvious hate letter to industrial and modern development after the war
Personally, I loved Pom Poko. It is an odd fable, but very charming.
i'm just balls out for this film
2017 Me that had been memeing about Over the Hedge being the best anime of all time: *🎶Vindicated, I am selfish, I am wrong, I am right, I swear I'm right, swear I knew it all along!🎶*
You cheeky fella you got me good
As someone doing a-level english, your remarks about waffling with context are distressing but moreso greatly appreciated. You are really great at structuring essays so this was a very entertaining and insightful watch. Ghibli's films do often feature post/anti-war and environmental messaging as you may know so I'd be interested to see you link those in the future maybe - especially if you can see something even deeper! (If the copyright claimers don't smite you into dust for it that is :p)
/😂eP
"drawn and illustrated in lavish, ekphrastic detail" - always nice to learn a new word, thanks for that :) Great video, impressively eloquently scripted and presented, you present an amusing comparison between animated rodent-retaliation films. PomPoko is a bittersweet delight. And I am genuinely one of those people scarred by the film of Watership Down - I watched it on TV aged five with my parents - I guess they didn't realise what it would be like but they didn't stop me watching once that became clear either - and some of those visceral flesh-tearing bloody scenes haunt me to this day, this film was my first true loss of innocence ;)
Idk if this is a straight compliment or a backhanded one. But, I didn't know you had this* in you. I'm impressed, well done. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
19:08 Godzilla is a pretty famous example of this imo
I love both movie
why am i crying now
Tanuki are the cutest little friends!
This video popped up in my feed a few hours after watching Pom Poko for the first time, funnily enough. At some point between finishing the movie and this video showing up, I said to my girlfriend something like "isn't there like a dreamworks movie with the same premise? This one is so much better."
Tanuki are the ultimate form of theater.
Ohhhh maaaaaan! Pom Poko is brilliant! I put it off for So long because it looked dumb. I was so fucking wrong.
You should make a video about watership down, the original movie and the Netflix show
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the comic strip Over the Hedge was based on since you wrnt into the history of both Pom Poko's director and Richard Adams.
To me, there's far more direct a link between Watership Down or Pom Poko & their original authors' experiences than there is between OtH's movie & the comic strip that inspired it.
It's also a question of scope - there's always another rabbit hole (or 10) you can go down while making a video like this, but if you try to bring in every relevant context/intertext, you end up making far fewer videos. Not so bad a thing if you're confident each video will perform well, or if you've got another reliable source of income, but at present, I can't really afford every video taking a month in the oven.
@@PillarofGarbage It was just more at least acknowledging the comic strip and its influences in the relevant section rather than acting like the thing was created wholesale by Dreamworks. Good vid otherwise.
Pom poko was my fav childhood movie (3 and honestly the best gibli film
Fucking love pom Poko. Silly little guys
Sadly, no matter how good the film's story or message or characters are, it is always going to be a niche cult film in North America. Just like Over The Hedge's problems revolve around a sack of nuts, Pom Poko's lack of exposure in the west also stems from sacks of nuts.
I'm surprised POG got through the whole video without mentioning this problem: the film is filled with wall to wall Tanuki balls. It's part of the folklore in Japan that most people grow up with (Tanuki's nertz are signs of prosperity and the source of their shapeshifting power) so to the native audience it was no big deal. To eeryone else, it can be jarring. And it's not like the tanuki sacks are just a background element--they figure prominently in the story. Humans are assaulted and possibly killed by overinflated nertz. Everyone is impressed when one of the masters reveal the carpet they're standing on is his transformed sack. At one point, the "death ship" that sails down the river packed with Tanuki is made form one grand old master tanuki's transformed scrotum.
So those of you who might be wondering why more people don't talk about this film more, especially given it's a Ghibli film... well, now you know.
It’s no accident I dropped the ball on the balls!
I do actually have a tanuki-scrotum-centred video idea that I was thinking of making down the road - so I thought I’d save up all testicular commentary in case I end up making that one
@@PillarofGarbage Ballsy move
love it!
....Yeah, I would not compare those two. I don't remember there being any giant testicles in over the hedge.
OMG I'm less than a minute in and I saw this movie when I was a kid and couldn't remmber the name for the life of me. XD
Let's look over a real hedge for over twenty minutes
Gunna like and comment, but you bet your arse I am going to watch both these movies BEFORE I watch more of this vid
I feel obliged to spread the word of “pronouncing it ‘jib-lee’” the way they do. ;-)
I guess technically Miyazaki would pronounce it closer to ‘jib-oo-ri’ with the center vowel fairly elided, but regardless. Just the J sound starter is all we really desire in life.
ok and now pull the amazing mr. fox into this. do it annakin.
Way better thumbnail
I'm sorry: did you say jellied... eels?? I'm not going to Google that in case it's real, but I sure hope you made it up.
are those balls?
yeah it’s a whole thing
Japanese folklore is weird, or folklore in general for that matter, people get into folklore is fun/horrifying
Personally I was hoping for the O. T. H. licensed game.
I was having a lot of inocent fun laughing at the silly raccons, then suddenly the tv said something like "5 people died", and i was like "no freaking way" and started laughing because of the shock value. It was a fun film with a strong message, but not one i can show to my 10yo sibilings sadly.
I mean its fair pom poko is oriented on japanese themselves, a stand in for tradition and capitalism?! And i think is more also a cautionary tale and that there is hope to adaprt somehow, and its rough but there? Yes enviromentalism is there but also tied within older Thats the idea, the tanuki are opriented a lot ion comfy village communities
I mean its a different movie than a more optimistic hopeful you can fight about enviromentalism anf that there is hope, Both do have the importance to protect what environment ther is to but admitedly fifferent. Like the tanuki really remind people to preserve at least some? And to care about the community you need to hold out? I feel the sense that the movie tries to imply that ther eis community out there just way harde to see too than, in a village?
Ok the urbanisation villages narritives seem to show yeah in the village ones its more wholresome but its still there, and oddly hopeful?
But also over the edge more hopeful is, modern needed really and , also important, and its meant to motivate, so, thats great.
Balls =D
a comment of engagement
engagement
raccoon balls
Yes pom poko is the name of the magic balls they use to transform :P
How dare your compare my super favorite movie to that dreamwork slop.
Just for clarity, I'm just commenting to give the video engagement, I'm faking outrage cause I never thought of the two in the same vein cause I just love Pompoko and didn't like over the hedge.
Worried pillar of garbage turned to ai garbage
Every masterpiece has its cheap copy
I'm not gonna even try to guess which you're referring to
Its not, also pom poko isa about urbanisation villages , tradition and remind what can be kept
While over the hedge being more positive if not naive , yeah wants to inspire, And does, while pom poko is yeah there are traditions and community even if life is, , its several themes really, which over the hedge isnt, its pretty straighforward and , good its a movie wit ha message that does it well.
@@marocat4749 dude it was a joke
I would like to hear your thoughts on the book Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher @pillarofgarbage
It’s come up a couple of times in my videos so far. Check out my video ‘The Limits of the Multiverse’ from last year, or I also reference it in the Patreon/RUclips Member exclusive video ‘Dying of Stress’ from the start of this year. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head, at least. Oh, and I think it _maybe_ gets some play in my video ‘The Trial of Cassian Andor’, too.
@@PillarofGarbage great will do!