Meshuggah BLEED Drumtrax (Metalheads EZX)
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This video is a recording of "Bleed" played by Tomas Haake of Meshuggah on his personal drumset at Fear and Loathing Studios in Stockholm, Sweden for Toontrack's EZdrummer "Metalheads Expansion Pack" (VSTi). Recorded and Produced by Daniel Bergstrand. Midi editing by Fredrik Thordendal. Post-production mix by Professor Serious in Reaper 3.72. Video was created with Nero, and I guess it cant handle line-level audio (some clipping). In my opinion Drumkit From Hell has a more "punchier" sound, larger soundscape and better cymbal tone seperation. But if mixed properly (with a little extra EQ work), Metalheadz EZX sounds epic! If you want Thomas Haake's drumset and the rest of the Meshuggah midi drumtracks (12 total) in High Quality visit toontrack.com and for more info on meshuggah visit meshuggah.net
People please, this is Tomas, or Toontrack would have a lot of lawsuits on their hands. There are ghost notes, but they were lost in the youtube compression. This is a non-HQ video from a few years ago. It's Tomas, trust me. There's even documentaries of Tomas making this on youtube somewhere. Just go to Toontrack.com before posting things like, "This is not Tomas'' or ''This is the wrong BPM'' or ''There are no ghost notes."
This video was my way of advertising (and reviewing) their product. I have the rights to post this. Toontrack released a product, in this case, drum midi files of Meshuggah songs (as they have been doing for over a decade). Customers who purchase that product also purchase the right to use, edit, or reproduce it. I've paid toontrack for those rights. I have great respect for Meshuggah and Toontrack and I look forward to their next release.
the hi-hat seems a little quiet in this mix, otherwise ENJOY!
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How long did it take your computer to learn this?
Took him the entire supercomputer network to finish the first minute
***** Probably.
Mr Derp Yeah lol i agree. i'm trying to find that one, i need to post it.
Mr Derp I guess so i can't find it :p
No shit right lol
I can still hear the guitar string bend
but theres only 12 cymbals in the kit, I only listen to music with 13+
Hubartus Brewbabus
Its 13 cymbals (the hihats are 2 pieces)
I love his drumming style alot, he, like Danny Carey, loves to play with his feet. Amazing dude
omg i love that drums....superior drummer....one of my favourites
Holy shit is 1:48 groovy as hell! to actually hear just how Thomas plays this is just awesome. Some people can't play the hairtas (double bass) with their flippin hands! Haake is a cosmic metronome.
So technical, yet so groovy...
I can listen to this track all day
Tomas Hertaake.
To try to clarify a little bit. A 3/4 beat and a 4/4 beat that are played at the same tempo and line up every 12th note is a polymeter. A 3/4 beat that is played at the same time as a 4/4 in two different tempos so that they start and end at the same time is a polyrythym. Make more sense?
Sounds sooooooo beastttttt. And that snare is tight.
@Drummerz24 Yeah, definitely. If you become proficient in drum programming (being a drummer as well) it's a great knowledge to have and you can wield it to great advantage. For example, with my band, i recorded my drum tracks on one condensor mic for demo purposes, then I took the time to completely recreate them in Addictive Drums. It sounds great now and it can sit better with the other instruments that were recorded. It all depends on the drummer but I suggest you give it a shot!
Well I don't know any music theory, but being a fan of the band, it was a real pleasure listening to this. Likes :D
Tomas Haake rules !!
beautifule.
very good
@VJelectro I see your point, but not all studio's are expensive, and as a drummer myself as well, I ran into this problem when trying to record my side band's first EP, (nothing special, just a local band). I can play all the numbers live, but I was struggling to get the right drum sound I wanted trying to record it at home. My bandmates suggested the software, but I wanted (for the few that bought the album) to know it was me playing, not a computer program, granted it was still all my work.
@Xam271 I figured it out lol. I should've been clearer and asked about the pattern instead of the count lol. 99% of Meshuggah's songs are 4/4, but that pattern where I mentioned was intriguing, to say the least.
Such awesome people listen to this music. Thanks for the input and the help!
@JustMeGuitarman This recording is 115 bpm. Some people claim that Bleed is 110 or 120, they are probably referring to a different recordings. This was recorded for Toontrack years after Obzen was released, in Meshuggah's studio in Sweden.
Because that makes things easier!
@RobSoundtrack I did not add any compression (besides that of whatever youtube applies to their videos to save space). I did do a little EQ, in the lows and low-mids. I think in the prgram there is a "compression" fader, that sends a compressesd signal into the mix... much like the "room" mic fader.
Tomas Haake Worked directly with Toontrack to develope this plug in for EZ drummer. The sounds your are hearing are sampled from Haake's kit and was recorded by Haake through triggers to create a MIDI track. Sure it's a mapped (sequenced) track but the midi recording came directly from Haake himself.
@VJelectro True. As long as the musician can preform it live, I guess it makes a viable option for recording purposes. This kind of technique could be handy for recording on a budget too, but I have to admit, I haven't really taken the time to learn or use drum software yet. So, I guess I can't knock it until I've really tried it.
Just bought mine. Woop!
Agreed, way better than dfh. I recently did the crossgrade to SDX with the Metal Foundry. Similar sound just with better samples and more eq. But just for quick mock up drum tracks with good quality, Metalheads is the perfect choice. Sick vid.
@emilolsson91 They use a technique called polymeters. Polyrhythm are two different beats which end up in the same time signature or one measure usually ends up the same, just with different speeds. Polymeters is using two or more totally different time signatures at the same time, creating the chaotic effect. Millenium Cyanide Christ for example, has a 4/4 beat for snare and hi-hat but the kick changes with every (short) measure.
Awesome!
Actually the whole thing is in 4/4. The kicks may sound like they are in an odd time, but its the way that you sub divide the 4/4 that gives you the feel of the odd time...Its not an actually in a different time signature. If that was the case you would find less upbeats and downbeats between the hands and feet happening at the same time.
AHHH EARGASM!
This BEAT is so fuckin sick
@Sticksandstones32 The ghost notes are only used live so he can keep time. He dosent need to throw them in when recording because he has a click going
@stylepic2009 I think your right, I thought about it after commenting
It's both, plyrhytmic in normal notes, or something like that
@Sc0ttPrian i understand completely. DEI has always been my favorite album. and choasphere... but luckily this EZX software comes with 12 of their most popular songs. I choose to put up Bleed, because i never plan on covering it. I had Sane up on youtube, but took it down because i began covering it. And didnt want people using samples, that i mixed, on their recordings without my permission. i dont care about bleed enough to cover it, so im sharing it with the world.
@FaschTv YES!!!
I love Meshuggah. They are my favorite band hands down. Especially their earlier works. As a huge fan, I consider Metalheads EZX as a special Meshuggah Release. That was the main reason why i got it. But as a composer/producer it has also given me another option, other than alll that Drumkit From Hell has to offer. As a stand alone EZX it's great, but I totally recommend getting DFH first, then adding Metalheads to your arsenal. Ideally you should have Superior Drummer if you want total control.
meshuggah in two words, Rhythmic exercise.
Yes. I use Cubase 5 and a 61 key midi controller to do mine but you can also use your computer keyboard as a virtual midi controller. it just won't have the same response as an good midi controller. if your feeling ambitious you can actually sit there and mouse click each note ;)
@Sticksandstones32 The ghost notes are only played live. They are not present in the studio version, from what I've heard.
@iAmPesukone Sorry, but the ghost notes are in this recording. Just can't be heard here. I were actually really confused when playing this with a higher velocity, that there were snare hits that I did not know about. (Haven't heard them on the recording)
@manorocks123 baring in mind this expansion can be used on both EZdrummer AND Superior Drummer. I use it with EZDrummer as the overall file size including EZdrummer is alot smaller than that of superior drummer. But at the end of the day man its all down to personal preferences and which programme you prefer to use.
IMO this is WAY better then Drum Kit from Hell!! \m/
@Xhell420 did u have an original multi track drum track to convert to midi ? if not what did u use? thanks
the drums are 420/420.
This is a song on it's own. The rest of the song is just extra, like bloopers in a movie.
certain parts of the bass pedals reminds of the drum intro to hot for teacher
It's actually both. When talking about multiple rhythms playing at the same time, that's polyrhythm. When referring to different meters in a piece of music, that's polymeter. Hence, playing a 3/8 beat with a 4/4 beat is an example of both polyrhythm AND polymeter.
@ctuliebs
He's using ezdrummer. Superior 2.0 kits all have that "elegant" theme to it and you can't change that. With ezdrummer, the kits all have a different look to them. Such as the drum kit from hell pack. It has the flames, but on superior, its just that elegant look like on all other expansions.
Don't waste the money on ezdrummer just for the themes if you already have superior! Superior does everything ezdrummer can do. Plus WAY more.
You can use Metalheads just as easily as DFH to record new beats. But DFH comes with a ton of generic midi files "beats" of different time sigs and feels. Though recorded as a heavy metal tool, you can get a Rock/Pop sound with DFH, you cant really get that with metalheads. Metalheads IS Thomas Haakes drumset, but you only get 12 meshuggah songs, no extra beats. DFH was recorded by Haake as well as other great drummers included. As a composer or producer you will find more uses for DFH.
Its the Live version of Bleed from the Alive DVD
The hands are generally in 4/4 the feet seem to switch between 3/4 and 5/4
I will buy this kit but with octobans,rototoms,and gong drum!
So... can anyone help me figure out how to count on the part from 1:45-2:36? Having trouble figuring it out
can u record drums with your keyboards and it cud still be saved as a midi ? is it possible with this program ?
@InfernoMitchi93 You need to manually change the velocities. I noticed that with their more recent EZX's, they have a weird velocity pattern that if you trigger the sample with anything other than full force, it'll sound really quiet and weak. Unfortunately, most GP files are programmed with varying velocities so it doesn't copy+paste too well.
@RobSoundtrack The Metal Foundry of toontrack has complete studio sound of jocke skog engineering meshuggah of thomas haake there is a preset of thomas haake BLEED :P
by saying this part fo the drumset is in a different time signature is being redundant. the point of a drumset is to play multiple rhythms at once. Polyrythms. and that doesnt change the PULSE of the beat.... which creates the time signature (and tempo). Like MOST Meshuggah, it's in 4/4 ...nuff said.
@USMCplusMETAL Many people asked this when the album was released, eventually people figured it out, there's quite a few cover videos online now!
@everythingwentjim he's not saying it's easy to replicate, it's the fact that it's just a polyrhytmic herta pattern (2 32nd notes followed by 2 16th notes) that makes it simple, aside from the fact it's occasionally played up with extra 16th notes, it's a simple 4/4 / 3/4 polyrhythm, + it doesn't take too much stamina once you have the technique down
Also, to the creator of this, you missed out all the ghosts on the snare.
@Sticksandstones32 Oh yes, they are there. Try upping the velocity in EZ-drummer, and the ghost notes pop out more.
@bungiejumper765 It's really simple indeed, but coupled with some polyrhythms and speed it becomes a beat that demands a hellish lot of stamina and counting.
I'm using this through superior drummer 2.0, and I was wondering how you get the green set? I still have the superior set up with an extra bass drum n cymbals
@abyxjohnson dont judge a drum machine by it's low-quality youtube video. This EZX comes with several different snares, this happens to be Haake's personal snare. There's is also a mixer in the program to change the levels, and of coarse yuo cn tweak it inside your host.. i use Reaper.
@Sticksandstones32 No they're there. It's lost in the youtube quality compression
@BertFlamingo Haha... i know, it's so groovey. This of coarse was a a real recording, turned into midi, then i mixed and bounced it down to .wav, made it into a video, and uploaded it so anyone can jam with this song, and see the potential for Metalheads. There are free and easy ways to download videos from youtube and rip the audio from it. But i suggest you buy EZdrummer's Metalheads and have drumtracks of 11 more songs by meshuggah!
so is this 4/4 or not? :|
4/4 with polyrhythms and displacement
Almost Everything Meshuggah does is in 4/4
4/3
Kyle Schneid The most used polyrhythm in the song is 4 over 3, yes, and later (0:56) comes 4 over 5, but the entire song is in 4/4
Henrik Wigum you're absolutely right it's in 4/4, I have the sheet music for it.
@suprjnt420 Yes it is... I don't even need DKFH anymore, Metalhead works great even for pop, any type of Rock, country, sounds fat and punchy, VERY GOOD!
@rockrule80 No... but Polyrhythm is when 2 (or more) beats is played simultaneously and most of Meshuggah's (or Periphery's, Vildhjarta's, Tool's etc.) songs has a 4/4 ground beat that revolves around 4-16 bars... so... this song is still 4/4 ;)
wow! I use DKFH and thought it sounded great but this sounds awsome, totally natural!
@xpguardian Oh, didn't read the description. In any case though, Haake played it here differently to how it's played on the album version.
Is there compression on this already??
Thinking about purchasing this soon...
Beat Time Machine
@GuitarWyzzard It depends on what your needs are. If your a sound engineer that needs to put a drumtrack to various types of music (say metal most common), I would definitely suggest Drumkit From Hell. If you are a huge Meshuggah fan, and need all of their special releases, possibly want to cover one of their songs, i suggest metalheads. If you are a composer, lookin to write new drumbeats of any style, i suggest DFH. If you want to re-write Meshuggah's beats into your own I suggest Metalheads.
I may be wrong, but wouldnt 3/8 played with 4/4 be a POLYMETER? not a polyrhythm? i may be wrong, but from my understanding its polymeter.
@OneSpudd NOPE! It is 115 bpm. In EZ drummer Metalheads, It's says the BPM with the song title. I'm staring at it right now. "BLEED 115BPM" ... so I programmed this MIDI track to 115bpm.
Besides detailed Eq adjustment and effects. The key area Metalheads lacks over The Metal Foundry is the snare. Kick could use a little adjustment. But not bad. Good work.
@Drummerz24 Yeah, In my perfect world, I'd want it to be me playing the instrument and recording my performance. That's my number one choice, but all in all, if you put the right amount of work and dedication into it, you can get the sound and performance you want in software. You just have to keep in mind your drumming abilities and certain nuances that you have when you actually play the instrument.
@Xhell420 Bleed is what got me listening to Meshuggah and I haven't been able to like any other album nearly as much as Obzen lol mainly bleed.
Do i have the right to download this vid.
and play the guitar to this ? :)
Good for workouts if you like double bass sound :V
"Workouts" who starts working out lifting 500kg? 😂
@8thstreetdropsoulja damn right fucking impressive
@Xhell420 Meshuggah in three words, "Oh sweet christ!"
@UMadUJelly Obviously. But this software is great for people like me, who work grave shifts and don't have access to an amazing drummer 24/7. It allows me to track guitars to a decent sounding drum kit.
i cant use it, it says error.. help
Art of Dying By Gojira, please!
Bro can you tell me the mixer levels of each drum parts? plzzz
4:51.. insane!
them double bass
No snare ghost notes?
@suprjnt420 i appreciate you're opinion. But how so?
Is this better or the same as the drum kit from hell expansion? I have to pick one of the two haha
I can almost add the hands with my feet but it gets hard in the middle
What MIDI controller are you using?
how is the diference with drumm kit from hell? :S
I'll puff to that!
@BertFlamingo vid2mp3.com or any other vid to mp3 sight is the fastest way to just take a sound from a vid and have it on ur itunes, that is if they exist
this track is preloaded into the plug in along with the drum tracks for Lethargica, Electric Red, Stengah, Pravus, Closed Eye Visuals, Sane, Rational Gaze, Straws Pulled at Random, The Mouth Licking What You Have Bled, Future Breed Machine, and Combustion. He didn't map this track
@alexkills and concentrate on the hi hat and cymbals. they play the regular beat, while the bassdrum adds the irregularities.
@xpguardian Thats another area of metalheadz i dont like... bad compression... please note... the ghost notes are there... but this is just a standard youtube video, so it's kinda lost in there
@Sticksandstones32
Haake programmed this so I guess their live only!
Fucking Yes Polyrhythms!!
Donde esta ghost notes?