I cant believe people are arguing FOR a streamer rolling PvP. Like you'll actually do anything that way. 90% of ppl picking a fight on these servers are 3+ levels above you or have some sort of insane other advantage on you, rogues just leave if they think they have a tiny chance to lose, etc etc, its just so bad. Learned from SoD.
I realized over the years that even as a non streamer PvP servers are an acquired taste and they are usually not very fun to play on. Evident by how fast PvP servers die compared to PvE servers it's clear that a majority of players share this sentiment, but are afraid to say it.
i think people dont wanna see streamers playing hardcore, investing time in the streamers journey only for them to die and restart to same content all over again, its very dull
@@mnn1265true, they used to be fun on private servers years ago but people took it way too far on classic servers. I would recommend going pve and flagging whenever you want to do world pvp for sure.
@@manimal9871 Exactly, I don't see why people feel the need to be FORCED to PvP when they don't want to or when they are vulnerable doing other things. If that's your thing great, but if not what's the appeal? Just flag and do it when you want...
PvP in general in vanilla is a mess. World PvP has never been these epic battles, the servers can’t even handle that anymore lol. It’s nothing more than a group of 60’s griefing NPCs and killing lowbies.
@@MikeyJ232 Pvp is smooth when you 1v1 as lock, rogue, mage and SP (maybe hunt if you have a large area) ; and as a team it can be fun. But else, it can be annoying.
Guzu is much more relaxed than I would ever be as a popular streamer. That "then don't make enemies" guy would have been banned and a kick out the door.
@@Pøssessïve-B upset enough to type this comment on the internet putting down a reasonable opinion from a guy you’ve never met and never will again. Verified, Certified, Genuinely upset.
That’s so true unfortunately, people are way too sweaty on classic it really ruined pvp servers for me. They were super fun many years ago on private servers and vanilla but it’s ridiculous nowadays.
For the record, you absolutely can do world PvP on a PvE server. When I first played WoW, back in the days of OG Wrath, I was on a Normal/PvE server. We'd switch our PvP flags on and have huge rolling battles across The Barrens. The only difference between PvP and PvE servers is that on a PvE server you get to control when you engage in world PvP. If you're not in the mood for it, you can choose not to get involved *at that time*. When I shifted my characters across to a PvP server to do guild raiding with a group of IRL friends, I was actually disappointed by the relatively poor quality of the world PvP. On the PvE servers there'd been a lot of fun, spontaneous mass battles and raiding of capital cities. On the PvP server, there was much less world PvP, and it was almost exclusively griefing of lower level characters.
I really hate the, its allowable so its okay attitude towards pvp griefing. There is alot of stuff you can do on a pve server that people would also not tolerate. Just because something is technically allowed doesnt mean you need to just take it lying down mouth shut.
PvP servers are trash. You wanna exp ? Max lvl will just camp you on every step. If you wanna pvp, there are still invasions on the city or BGs on PvE servers. Bcs most of the world "pvp" is just getting camped by multiple rogs to annoy shit out of you. And there are limits on CDs and powerlvl for how many and how good rogs one can "put to sleep" before "sleeping".
PvP server characters are the most valuable. If you are not a streamer, it's actually fun. You are encouraged to group more on PVP servers. So if you like to run around alone, yeah it's going to suck 😅
@@Nelorose yea, I like to do my quests in peace. I dont like the idea walking to finish quest and fighting off 3 rogs as pala just to put one on half HP so another come from stealth to stun me and 1st one heals up, and than 3rd to safe 2nd. Its just annoying. If I wanna do pvp I go BG. or invading Orgrimar or Stormwind. Or leveling char just so max lvl come, so I need to come with mine to beat him up. and I cant even exp bcs once I switch chars he is back...
100% respect your decision. you do you man. you have some true friends / followers / community that will follow you (watch) regardless of your decision.
I am playing the new fresh hc realm just for the experience again and since it's progression. But after all that's done with I'm back to Stitches realm, as that's where the characters/guilds are. Think most will go back once this fresh progression is done. As streamers will leave and the economy will just become like the current ones. Though I'll do a PVE realm character along side, since they will go TBC.
@@jaxen231Since I will go back to Stitches after the fresh hc progression is done. It's certainly possible I'd just free transfer the HC 60 from the new HC realm to the new PVE realm ready for TBC. I forgot about the transfers they have.
@@djockom why do you care? If people are enjoying themselves that's all that matters. If you want a new experience, go play a different game and don't roll on vanilla fresh servers lol
Go PvE. If you want to PvP, you can always enable the flag. If people want to fight you, they can, and you can turn it off when you are done with it. I am personally going to roll PvE as well this time. I don't want to bother with random PvP in the world. I have BGs for PvP.
dont worry about having too many shamans.. for one you want more shamans than any other class in raids anyways and 2nd: 80% of all the shamans will die before reaching 60 or after reaching 60 with a classic totem pull, 15% will probably die from overconfidence, as shaman really slaps and 5% will die from windfury procc on first hit vs bosses PS: what are you going to do when a guildmate wants to give you a flurry axe? lets say because they found it on their mage and they like your haircut?
The current community in hc is happy to see streamers and the surge of players returning to hc. With that said, a new server probably wasn't needed if you guys just SSF and used discipline (AKA not boost). Many current players are being screwed over because they don't want to level through hc 1-60 which is mostly a self journey or account depend on the mode you pick. In addition, the hc severs that are currently going will see a big shift in population with another hc sever being released. Since the server is already on the way and can't be avoided perhaps streamers would be kind enough to advocate for current players. How? Well perhaps if blizzard were to announce hc to hc sever transfers with limited items(aka none past first phase) and limited gold( a reasonable amount not to disturb the new economy say 10-20g). This feature would not be live for like a month or two, but that would give current players a avenue to bring the hard work they've done over without disturbing anything.
i love so much how pvp players try to get into your head with ego trap when you tell them you're playing pve. i have several close friends like that and it's weird they always stop playing sooner than me because they're sick of having to tryhard just to get into a raid but at each new phase they replay the naah comedy pvp is better you are a pve andy you don't like the real game. i love them so much
The reality is that those players suck at pvp and that's why they will never grind arena or rated BGs and instead like to feel superior for killing someone who has no potential to fight back.
It sucks that they're not adding achievements or challenges into the core game with the new realms, or a Petri nerf or updated models, or literally anything to make them different. I honestly don't even see the point in adding more HC realms. The ones we have aren't full, yet always have levellers looking for others to group up with. All these new realms do is dilute the HC playerbase so Soda can have his hype for two months.
I don't understand why chat is so confused. Getting camped when you're just trying to quest is like a guaranteed way to completely ruin the fun of the game. And like you said, the fact you're streaming and people can basically pull up a Guzu-GPS any time they want to grief your experience makes it a million times worse.
ty to all streamer for leaving pvp servers for the normal people, i know it sucks for them, but it also sucks for us, economy, population just everything. even tho i wish it would be a world were we all could have fun on pvp , its better that way atm
Hi, You should consider having a character on Horde Stitches EU if you want to raid Hardcore in a PvE environment. Gives you an option to see more content than just the leveling, happy to get you into the raids if you want to do that.
@@chc2650 Not sure what you are referring to. There is no „ganking“ on HC servers, as PvP flags are off. Unless you make the mistake to get flagged, there is little ganking that can happen at all.
PvP Realm is the only way for me, there is no way I will walk side by side with the faction I’m at war with and not be able to attack them as if we were allied
Put money on it someone gets a ban from the prox chat 100% and it will prob be pliav lol and going pve is huge for streamers i dont blame u. Also as a resto shaman main for 19 years its broing FYI its rank 1 chain heal and WF totem and totem twisting thats it
I played pvp server no matter what when I was 18-late 20’s. Alas now I am a balding 37 year old with a fiancée and limited time to play. I’m going pve for sure and forcing her to level as a pocket healer beside me for bgs
I'm thinking about going NE druid. Always played horde, only dabbled with a few alliance chars to 60 during these 20 years of playing. If they allow transfer from HC fresh to normal Fresh I'm starting HC
My plans (random average player) - Orc Rogue HC (Never played Rogue) - Hardcore (Gonna stream it on twitch) - If i die i go to PVE server, I agree with what Guzu says. - If i do succeed hitting 60. i'll shave my head so ill look like Guzu Peace
@@wolfwolf7152ah yes because if payos streams ever showed it, its WAY MORE FUN watching someone get corpse camped on not just one, but all of their characters/accounts. PvP servers are Grief servers anymore, let it go.
i would never do hunter ever again in pvp because its bad solo at 60 and mages at 60 are ridiculously too good once they get a healthy hp amount. but idk if pve is worth it since idk what the classic bot situation is like there
i got to rank 10 pvp before bgs were released through adventure wpvp. i know what im talking about. even a pro at the class would agree even if they fare better. warrior, rogue and mage only need to stand in your dead zone. mage has many ways deal with the pet. and a warrior doesn't have to step in your trap, better off just conceding scatter shot and traps isn't working and going BM and losing in solo.
After playing pvp server on sod. i dont blame you for choosing to not get camped. im not even a streamer and they still camped me for hours. f'n lifeless horde. Also they need to realize. The servers are gonna have faction limits. Imagine if Guzu finishes his fangs and goes to start on the pve server and its ally capped, he'll have to play horde or play the pvp server. There's only one server each and hc characters will be flooding the pve server when they die. The faction limit thing is gonna be a real problem i think.
@@Graahk-r8u I've played WoW since 2004 and you're wrong and my supposition is that you are a lot based on your baseless comment. None of the things you mentioned require playing on a PvP server but then you're probably a noob yourself.
If you are a stream sniper/griefer guild, do you see pushing most streamers to PvE servers as a W or an L? Wouldn't the optimal strategy long-term is milking and edging it for as long as possible by moderating the attacks such that streamers think they can stay on PvP
ngl ive been in one of the griefer guilds and they dont care about what happens to a server / other people they just want their fun and dont care about anyone else
Raiding Ogrimmar, fun. But you're helping to divide the Hardcore Community with people killing their characters on Stitches to start on the new server. Meanwhile Stitches will drain empty and the community will be divided between servers. I don't know man, why didn't Blizzard announce a SF hardcore server instead of just normal HC again. What are they actually thinking.
why is guzu doing self found ? when he can Help people with gear and stuff this man is lucky as fuck on his HC runs lol , you just gonna play in your own bubble if you play Self found cause what are the interaction with other people be unless its about giving noob cloth gear etc , in self found you just chat with your own party , or random interaction in public that are rare cause probably guzu will play at EU time .
the facts that you cant dismiss totem with shaman in vanilla will kill a lot of new player in dungeon, i prefer the alliance i just hate to watch barrens lvling
You can indeed reduce griefing by playing on a pve realm, but even then it's going to be there, one way or another. Sure, it won't be as direct as pvp corpse camping, but it'll be dead quest givers and escort npcs, and abusing some gameplay features to make things harder for you.
World pvp is never fair, it's only fun in the first month of release when everyone is leveling, but after a while you get fully geared twinks and level 60s ganking everywhere. It's rare to get a true fair 1v1 when both guys are about the same level
You can tell this comment section is full of 2019 classic babies. Wah wah wah please go PvP, wahhhhh, classic PvP isn't even fair or real and it all just sucks.
I cant believe people are arguing FOR a streamer rolling PvP. Like you'll actually do anything that way. 90% of ppl picking a fight on these servers are 3+ levels above you or have some sort of insane other advantage on you, rogues just leave if they think they have a tiny chance to lose, etc etc, its just so bad. Learned from SoD.
I realized over the years that even as a non streamer PvP servers are an acquired taste and they are usually not very fun to play on. Evident by how fast PvP servers die compared to PvE servers it's clear that a majority of players share this sentiment, but are afraid to say it.
Would roll pve in a heartbeat if I didn’t wanna play horde
@@BH-zo4nq just do it anyway man, theres always a decent horde pop on the PVE servers still.
@@MikaelLVcs was the most active server on sod like the whole time and the only active era realm is pvp ur just yapping
I wonder which hobbyless asshat clowns want to see him on the pvp server. Surely not the PvP Andys who cant do better than ganking solo players.
Bro why is twitch chat arguing for pvp server like it's a democracy? You do what you want, Guzu!
I guarantee a number of the people screaming in chat for PVP are the same people that would camp him if he did actually go PVP.
i think people dont wanna see streamers playing hardcore, investing time in the streamers journey only for them to die and restart to same content all over again, its very dull
Dont get peer pressured into going PVP. Streamers are unfairly targeted, going PVE is totally valid.
On pvp servers everyone gets ganked. Don't go on that cesspool...
PvP servers are just plain toxic.
@@mnn1265true, they used to be fun on private servers years ago but people took it way too far on classic servers. I would recommend going pve and flagging whenever you want to do world pvp for sure.
@@manimal9871 Exactly, I don't see why people feel the need to be FORCED to PvP when they don't want to or when they are vulnerable doing other things. If that's your thing great, but if not what's the appeal? Just flag and do it when you want...
whats the botting situation like in pve?
This is going to be hype, can't wait for the OF content! (I can't wait for the OnlyFangs content either!)
Confirmed Guzu feet-cam POV for OF subscribers? Can this get any more hyped?! 🤩
You’ve been waiting to comment this huh
According to the HC stats, Shaman is the least reachable class that makes it to 60 without dying. Opposite to Paladin who is first, but Shaman last.
You sound gay .
wpvp is not really a thing, people just over level and go back and harass low lvl players
PvP in general in vanilla is a mess. World PvP has never been these epic battles, the servers can’t even handle that anymore lol.
It’s nothing more than a group of 60’s griefing NPCs and killing lowbies.
@@MikeyJ232How are 60s going to grief on a fresh server? I’m glad you soys aren’t rolling pvp cause you sound absolutely terrible at WoW.
@@MikeyJ232 Pvp is smooth when you 1v1 as lock, rogue, mage and SP (maybe hunt if you have a large area) ; and as a team it can be fun.
But else, it can be annoying.
Guzu is much more relaxed than I would ever be as a popular streamer. That "then don't make enemies" guy would have been banned and a kick out the door.
you're a grown adult who gets upset at words on the screen
@@Pøssessïve-Byou are too
@@imaforceanature7297 making fun of him = being upset
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@@Pøssessïve-B upset enough to type this comment on the internet putting down a reasonable opinion from a guy you’ve never met and never will again. Verified, Certified, Genuinely upset.
Pve will be fine, old pvp isn't the same anymore
That’s so true unfortunately, people are way too sweaty on classic it really ruined pvp servers for me. They were super fun many years ago on private servers and vanilla but it’s ridiculous nowadays.
the amount of organic wpvp that happens is so miniscule now days that it isn't worth
I Agree just a bunch of spergs doing everything AS QUICK AS POSSIBLEEEEE TO SHOW MY VIEWEERS WEWWWWWWW
Yep, PvP servers are solely for ganking and greefing, waste of time.
Agreed. I had more mass battles on a PvE server back in OG Wrath than you'd get on a PvP server these days. People's mindsets are different now.
For the record, you absolutely can do world PvP on a PvE server. When I first played WoW, back in the days of OG Wrath, I was on a Normal/PvE server. We'd switch our PvP flags on and have huge rolling battles across The Barrens.
The only difference between PvP and PvE servers is that on a PvE server you get to control when you engage in world PvP. If you're not in the mood for it, you can choose not to get involved *at that time*.
When I shifted my characters across to a PvP server to do guild raiding with a group of IRL friends, I was actually disappointed by the relatively poor quality of the world PvP. On the PvE servers there'd been a lot of fun, spontaneous mass battles and raiding of capital cities. On the PvP server, there was much less world PvP, and it was almost exclusively griefing of lower level characters.
I really hate the, its allowable so its okay attitude towards pvp griefing. There is alot of stuff you can do on a pve server that people would also not tolerate. Just because something is technically allowed doesnt mean you need to just take it lying down mouth shut.
PvP servers are trash. You wanna exp ? Max lvl will just camp you on every step. If you wanna pvp, there are still invasions on the city or BGs on PvE servers. Bcs most of the world "pvp" is just getting camped by multiple rogs to annoy shit out of you. And there are limits on CDs and powerlvl for how many and how good rogs one can "put to sleep" before "sleeping".
PvP server characters are the most valuable. If you are not a streamer, it's actually fun. You are encouraged to group more on PVP servers. So if you like to run around alone, yeah it's going to suck 😅
you get camped by a max level on fresh servers? Get a grip man you are paralyzed with fear. We get it you are bad at wow.
@@Graahk-r8u so you play wow only on a fresh server ? for a 2 days ? Well, maybe try to play it more. :)
@@Nelorose yea, I like to do my quests in peace. I dont like the idea walking to finish quest and fighting off 3 rogs as pala just to put one on half HP so another come from stealth to stun me and 1st one heals up, and than 3rd to safe 2nd. Its just annoying. If I wanna do pvp I go BG. or invading Orgrimar or Stormwind. Or leveling char just so max lvl come, so I need to come with mine to beat him up. and I cant even exp bcs once I switch chars he is back...
100% respect your decision. you do you man. you have some true friends / followers / community that will follow you (watch) regardless of your decision.
Good choice Guzu. I was always on pvp servers in the past, but recetntly I have found found PvE servers to be very nice and relaxing.
It’s funny to me that everyone forgot that all pvp servers transformed into pve anyway. Enjoy your time Guzu :)
i love the youtube content when its close to fresh like "ultimate class guide for fresh server" or "what you should do first on fresh servers"
"what if i never die?" made me laugh so much :D
that demonic rune nearly slipped out of his hand
I am playing the new fresh hc realm just for the experience again and since it's progression.
But after all that's done with I'm back to Stitches realm, as that's where the characters/guilds are. Think most will go back once this fresh progression is done. As streamers will leave and the economy will just become like the current ones.
Though I'll do a PVE realm character along side, since they will go TBC.
But you can go on fresh hc and while you die at some point .. transfer it to the new era fresh pve server and go to tbc right ?
@@jaxen231Since I will go back to Stitches after the fresh hc progression is done. It's certainly possible I'd just free transfer the HC 60 from the new HC realm to the new PVE realm ready for TBC. I forgot about the transfers they have.
I am so hyped for fresh
Why, playing the same thing over and over and over and over?
@ you dont have to play.
@@djockom why do you care? If people are enjoying themselves that's all that matters. If you want a new experience, go play a different game and don't roll on vanilla fresh servers lol
SAME
@@djockom after I finish video games I throw them away, why would I play them again
Chat is cringe af. Imagine 2k people telling you to play the game how they want. Guzu is too nice to his chat lol
I can't wait to have streams to watch 24/7 again. OF was such good content last time, I hope it is again. PVE for streamers is totally the way to go.
Let the man play what he wants... any of his viewers asking to roll pvp server and just trying to force him are 100% the griefers
no dog. he need to play what i want dog
it’s text on a screen. nobody can force him to do anything. you are weird…
Go PvE. If you want to PvP, you can always enable the flag. If people want to fight you, they can, and you can turn it off when you are done with it.
I am personally going to roll PvE as well this time. I don't want to bother with random PvP in the world. I have BGs for PvP.
Same 👍🏽 gl
dont worry about having too many shamans.. for one you want more shamans than any other class in raids anyways and 2nd: 80% of all the shamans will die before reaching 60 or after reaching 60 with a classic totem pull, 15% will probably die from overconfidence, as shaman really slaps and 5% will die from windfury procc on first hit vs bosses
PS: what are you going to do when a guildmate wants to give you a flurry axe? lets say because they found it on their mage and they like your haircut?
The current community in hc is happy to see streamers and the surge of players returning to hc. With that said, a new server probably wasn't needed if you guys just SSF and used discipline (AKA not boost). Many current players are being screwed over because they don't want to level through hc 1-60 which is mostly a self journey or account depend on the mode you pick. In addition, the hc severs that are currently going will see a big shift in population with another hc sever being released. Since the server is already on the way and can't be avoided perhaps streamers would be kind enough to advocate for current players. How? Well perhaps if blizzard were to announce hc to hc sever transfers with limited items(aka none past first phase) and limited gold( a reasonable amount not to disturb the new economy say 10-20g). This feature would not be live for like a month or two, but that would give current players a avenue to bring the hard work they've done over without disturbing anything.
Onlyfangs content gonna go so hard, can't wait 🔥
i love so much how pvp players try to get into your head with ego trap when you tell them you're playing pve. i have several close friends like that and it's weird they always stop playing sooner than me because they're sick of having to tryhard just to get into a raid but at each new phase they replay the naah comedy pvp is better you are a pve andy you don't like the real game. i love them so much
The reality is that those players suck at pvp and that's why they will never grind arena or rated BGs and instead like to feel superior for killing someone who has no potential to fight back.
Is it so hard to understand why he doesn't wan't to play on a pvp server? what is wrong with his chat?
i love how he is fine with going pve regardless of other peoples oppinions. f*** pvp servers with griefers.
go pve guzu, just go pve! thanks for that
Can't wait for Guzu's return to self-found hardcore!
Wise words. Pvp teeth grinding enough non streamer, ptsd farming wintersaber in vanilla. Enjoy the journey guzu!
It sucks that they're not adding achievements or challenges into the core game with the new realms, or a Petri nerf or updated models, or literally anything to make them different.
I honestly don't even see the point in adding more HC realms. The ones we have aren't full, yet always have levellers looking for others to group up with.
All these new realms do is dilute the HC playerbase so Soda can have his hype for two months.
I don't understand why chat is so confused. Getting camped when you're just trying to quest is like a guaranteed way to completely ruin the fun of the game. And like you said, the fact you're streaming and people can basically pull up a Guzu-GPS any time they want to grief your experience makes it a million times worse.
ty to all streamer for leaving pvp servers for the normal people, i know it sucks for them, but it also sucks for us, economy, population just everything. even tho i wish it would be a world were we all could have fun on pvp , its better that way atm
As a non streamer, i just cant miss a fresh PVP server, respect your decision tho guzu
Stick woth your plans Guzu! Will love watchinplayingcontent either way brother!
why is his hair on the wrong side of his head
Hi,
You should consider having a character on Horde Stitches EU if you want to raid Hardcore in a PvE environment. Gives you an option to see more content than just the leveling, happy to get you into the raids if you want to do that.
Yeah I barely have 2 hours a day to play, cant waste time getting ganked by a sweatlord NEET all night.
@@chc2650 Not sure what you are referring to. There is no „ganking“ on HC servers, as PvP flags are off. Unless you make the mistake to get flagged, there is little ganking that can happen at all.
PvP Realm is the only way for me, there is no way I will walk side by side with the faction I’m at war with and not be able to attack them as if we were allied
Put money on it someone gets a ban from the prox chat 100% and it will prob be pliav lol and going pve is huge for streamers i dont blame u. Also as a resto shaman main for 19 years its broing FYI its rank 1 chain heal and WF totem and totem twisting thats it
It's all about what you enjoy!!!! Will enjoy watching it ALL
voice proximity is about to become the most used addon after DBM
Recap: Only the most ETHICAL STREAMING PRACTICES for Classic Fresh!
Can’t wait for classic fresh! EU pvp is where it’s at for me though
Play PVE, PVP servers suck even as normal guy. It’s 10x worse for streamers.
I played pvp server no matter what when I was 18-late 20’s. Alas now I am a balding 37 year old with a fiancée and limited time to play. I’m going pve for sure and forcing her to level as a pocket healer beside me for bgs
torn between mage, druid, or restarting my warlock.
If they will allow to transfer dead HC chars to Fresh PVP this can be a good idea, you died > moving your char to pvp and smacking there.
I'm thinking about going NE druid. Always played horde, only dabbled with a few alliance chars to 60 during these 20 years of playing. If they allow transfer from HC fresh to normal Fresh I'm starting HC
Haha just got to the part where Guzu planned exactly what I said 😆
is hardcore going to progress into tbc aswell?
Everyone went horde last time in TBC classic so alliance makes sense, had the same idea :D
Stupid racials in arena:(
Shaman huh.. Guess another Dark Rune death will come then 😂
My plans (random average player)
- Orc Rogue HC (Never played Rogue)
- Hardcore (Gonna stream it on twitch)
- If i die i go to PVE server, I agree with what Guzu says.
- If i do succeed hitting 60. i'll shave my head so ill look like Guzu
Peace
totally fair to play on PvE server as a streamer, good decision
Nice!!
I gave up on pvp servers a while back,looking forward to playing with ya on EU 🎉
Guzu, you could do the pvp server, you can have dedicated body guards lol
they really want guzu on pvp.......thats already a red flag lol
because they want content, vanilla pve content is really really bad
@@wolfwolf7152ah yes because if payos streams ever showed it, its WAY MORE FUN watching someone get corpse camped on not just one, but all of their characters/accounts.
PvP servers are Grief servers anymore, let it go.
Do u know what time utc the new servers do drop?
And here i hoped the return of the staff warrior was uppon us
i hope they add
- dual specc for classic
- char copy to classic era before tbc release
- force faction balance also on PvE Realm
Orc or undead for warlock pvp?
12:01 saves you 12min of yapping
Yapping is the point of the video
@@AMGKITTENZ Right, if you watch Guzu and skip the yapping, did you really watch Guzu?
@@McSireson there's people out there that enjoy Guzu yapping, but an answer to the simple question "Whats your plans for fresh" isn't a 12min answer.
@@Fluffman13 I mean, he goes through everything he wants to do throughout the video.
i would never do hunter ever again in pvp because its bad solo at 60 and mages at 60 are ridiculously too good once they get a healthy hp amount. but idk if pve is worth it since idk what the classic bot situation is like there
hunters are bad at 60 solo pop? I think you're just the one who's bad LOL
i got to rank 10 pvp before bgs were released through adventure wpvp. i know what im talking about. even a pro at the class would agree even if they fare better. warrior, rogue and mage only need to stand in your dead zone. mage has many ways deal with the pet. and a warrior doesn't have to step in your trap, better off just conceding scatter shot and traps isn't working and going BM and losing in solo.
Hey World❤ Have fun during FreshVanilla
6:20 no mention at all of orc warlock?
He mentions warlock at 6:06.
Will we have a midnight release in EU?
After playing pvp server on sod. i dont blame you for choosing to not get camped. im not even a streamer and they still camped me for hours. f'n lifeless horde.
Also they need to realize. The servers are gonna have faction limits. Imagine if Guzu finishes his fangs and goes to start on the pve server and its ally capped, he'll have to play horde or play the pvp server. There's only one server each and hc characters will be flooding the pve server when they die. The faction limit thing is gonna be a real problem i think.
Why would the pve servers have faction caps?
@Felnoodle1 don't know. Ask blizzard?
@@DotHackerSora Well I went and read the blue post. It is very clearly stated that only PvP servers would have faction caps
Only pvp servers have faction cap, also allies do the same thing its a player thing to be an ass and suck at pvp pretending to be good camping lowies
Will Boosting for mages be available?
going to PVE is the biggest redpill a wow player can take. We've seen world PVP and in 9/10 cases its not engaging
PvE servers all day! Shaman inc!
Where does it say Oceania is getting excluded from Classic Classic Fresh?
I don't like PvP servers, I'd rather PvP when I'm in the mood and prepared. I don't want to PvP while I'm herbing, mining or doing quests.
So true, you can even flag too when you do want to in the open world 👍🏽
cool you are bad at WoW. Probably have terrible parses, have never fully cleared a raid tier, nor do you have any PVP achievements.
lmao touch grass
@@Graahk-r8u I've played WoW since 2004 and you're wrong and my supposition is that you are a lot based on your baseless comment. None of the things you mentioned require playing on a PvP server but then you're probably a noob yourself.
What server did Only Fangs decide to go with? Fresh or Defias Pillager?
Fresh.
Go pve unless you play rogue, I agree.
I'm confused. I watched Savix video where he said yall didn't make the cut
Are people even allowed to go Self-Found in Only Fangs? I thought it was supposed to be kind of a guild-trading-effort...
All streamers be like I think il play alliance 🤡🤡🤡
I'm looking forward to TBC as well, this time hopefully without the fucking mount boosts and other shit of that sort.
Can't you play HC on EU, and when you die, transfer it to the PVE one?
If you are a stream sniper/griefer guild, do you see pushing most streamers to PvE servers as a W or an L? Wouldn't the optimal strategy long-term is milking and edging it for as long as possible by moderating the attacks such that streamers think they can stay on PvP
These stream snipers and griefers were never known for long-term planning or deep thinking.
ngl ive been in one of the griefer guilds and they dont care about what happens to a server / other people they just want their fun and dont care about anyone else
1 week he plays retail again and 1 week after sod play 1 game
guzu da man
bro thinks using only chain heal sounds fun
Gonna be fun
have people forgotten how miserable the SoM streams were? I'm glad hes going PvE
i am too making the switch to alliance and pve server this time 😎
Raiding Ogrimmar, fun. But you're helping to divide the Hardcore Community with people killing their characters on Stitches to start on the new server. Meanwhile Stitches will drain empty and the community will be divided between servers. I don't know man, why didn't Blizzard announce a SF hardcore server instead of just normal HC again. What are they actually thinking.
is there self found on pve?
so, onlyfangs = NA HC realm? (guzu never mentioned in video that it's hc event)
What race did pilav and savix get?
why is guzu doing self found ? when he can Help people with gear and stuff this man is lucky as fuck on his HC runs lol , you just gonna play in your own bubble if you play Self found cause what are the interaction with other people be unless its about giving noob cloth gear etc , in self found you just chat with your own party , or random interaction in public that are rare cause probably guzu will play at EU time .
Soda said no Guzu!
the facts that you cant dismiss totem with shaman in vanilla will kill a lot of new player in dungeon, i prefer the alliance i just hate to watch barrens lvling
Another carebear...
You can indeed reduce griefing by playing on a pve realm, but even then it's going to be there, one way or another. Sure, it won't be as direct as pvp corpse camping, but it'll be dead quest givers and escort npcs, and abusing some gameplay features to make things harder for you.
That list is so small i cant read.
8:16 - play the clip Editor
World pvp is never fair, it's only fun in the first month of release when everyone is leveling, but after a while you get fully geared twinks and level 60s ganking everywhere. It's rare to get a true fair 1v1 when both guys are about the same level
think you are delusional man you can get 1v1s all the time and there is constant pvp in shared questing zones on pvp servers.
Oof no defuff uncap
You can tell this comment section is full of 2019 classic babies. Wah wah wah please go PvP, wahhhhh, classic PvP isn't even fair or real and it all just sucks.
Holy shit im 49% Troll out of 4 picks