It dose not even make sense for the movie as one the characters is the governors daughter they would be filthy rich like from what I can see in this they could not even afford 1st class tickets.
@@Gripen1974it is safer to fly than to get into a car. If you do not think that people should get on a plane better not get into a car because comparatively that is suicide.
Former diver here. I cant say how correct this is, because it has been over a decade since i last certified, but AFAIK if the air pocket you are in is surface pressure (like in the crashed plane) you could swim out of the water and up to the surface as long as you properly execute an emergency ascent. The bends occur when you dive because you are breathing compressed air for an extended period of time.
I haven't watched the video but I assume water was entering the aircraft but there was an air pocket. If there was no rigid barrier between the water and the air then the air is being compressed by the water pressure. Unlike a submarine where the hull prevents the air being compressed.
@@toast6375 the air pocket inside the plane would indeed be compressed air. The OP said the air pocket in the sunken plane would be surface pressure. It would actually be compressed by the water pressure pushing against it. It would only remain at surface pressure after sinking if there was a rigid separation between the air and the water but because the plane has a big hole, that's not the case here. It's the same reason a balloon gets smaller the deeper you go in water even though no air has escaped... the water pressure is compressing the air. Functionally it is exactly the same as air compressed inside an air cylinder. Perhaps you're saying that if they left straight away they wouldn't have time to develop issues from breathing this compressed air but that's not really what the OP said. To make it clearer, the air in a scuba tank is compressed to extremely high PSI but the regulator controls the amount that is released so it is roughly the same pressure as the surrounding water. If you have an air pocket at 60ft under water without a rigid barrier it is being compressed to roughly 40PSI, if you're scuba diving with a tank at 60ft you're breathing air that is roughly compressed to 40PSI. If the regulator on a scuba tank provided noticeably lower pressure than the surrounding water then nothing would come out, if the regulator supplied noticeably higher pressure than the surrounding water then you would suddenly pop when trying to take a breath.
15:12 its not the fuselage that keeps them afloat in water its the wings. More specifically the fuel tanks. Procedure is to dump all the fuel in any crash scenario, this leaves a massive air tank in both wings if the dump valve closes back properly. Even if it doesnt, it would still take a long time for water to flood them considering pressure gradients
@@sedemafenyo turn a cup or glass upside down and push it into a sink full of water, all the way to the bottom. The air inside the cup will displace the water and remain dry even fully submerged as long as you keep it facing downward, much like dump valves on fuel tanks do. That's the best way I can explain air vs water pressure without being vague and technical. But we can go into the technicals of it if you want
You can also use the amount of light they can see through the windows to estimate their depth. By 120 feet, saltwater will have absorbed nearly all visible red light, so considering they can still very much see the color red, (helpfully demonstrated by a few of their fellow passangers) it's safe to assume they can't be any deeper than 120 feet. Still dangerous for sure, but survivable if they move quick!
@A_Stereotypical_Guy I don't know about that. Being able to tell if I'm descending or not by if it gets lighter or darker sounds useful. I'm not sure when knowing how deep in the ocean you need to go to no longer see the color red will help, but just having a "we are no more than x feet deep" fact can probably help calm people down.
Hey everyone, Pilot here. Birdstrikes as well general issues that lead to needing to fly OEI (One Engine Inoperative) are the single most trained thing in simulators for ATP pilots (the type of pilots who fly you for an airline). Airliners can *EASILY* fly on one engine, and while we may need to descend to an altitude where there is enough power to manage it, it will be okay. Flying is one of the safest methods of travel, and while it is totally acceptable and natural to feel fear or anxiety, don't let that stop you from flying with us. Edit: And had I watched the video for 40 seconds longer, I would have heard/seen him say the exact same thing I said.
@@witnessfox3509Damn! I almost missed that. Should’ve been obvious, as those three sharks are great whites, and the trenchcoat is an entire circus tent. Why they grouped up to try to disguise themselves as a freakishly giant human, I may never know.
What I got from this is that the lawyers are going to have a field day with the airline and the arguments on percent of liability between the pilots and airline negligence are going to be epic. Also, they better hope the governor loses reelection. He is going to go to town on them for his nearly dead daughter.
It bothers me that the divers don’t have any sort of marking floats to deploy as soon as they confirm the wreck. Which can help to communicate with chopper.
They might have been able to bring a SMB with a spool of 100-150 feet. Maybe more. They could attach that at higher up on the slope if needed. I guess either if they communicate with pilots or go missing the GPS location is marked down.. lol. They didn't really have much time after confirming survivors to do anything before getting slaughtered.
I've seen every explains video since this beginning, and its had its ups and downs. Mostly ups! This video is the first in a while that feels like its getting back to what makes the channel great, taking the time to break down situations in a bit more depth and doing the google work for me about situations I should never need to know anything about. Keep it up :)
So I’m gonna bust a bubble here. As soon as the cabin suffers decompression like that at 37k feet, everyone in there is gonna take a nap within seconds.
Yep then they would suffer the effect HACE ( HIGH Altitude Cerebral Edema ) aka brain swelling due to a lack of oxygen, it's what the climbers who climb Everest go through when they don't use oxygen and Everest is what...29k-30k feet high
@@chrismeyers5963 Actually no, it is sustained time at those altitudes which will cause edema as the body is attempting to acclimate. Short-times at that altitude (i.e. the time it takes the pilots to descend to below 14000ft) will simply lead to hypoxia and unconsciousness but most would immediately regain consciousness as soon as they descended (assuming they didn't put on their mask) Military and commercial pilots can take training which exposes them to those altitudes without oxygen to allow them to experience their personal hypoxia symptoms. Some people get sleepy, some start laughing, but knowing their symptoms can help them possibly recognize a hypoxia event in case the alarms didn't work. That obviously wouldn't be allowed if they could develop cerebral and pulmonary edema that quickly.
Just a quick nerd dose of aerospace knowledge. Bird strikes are common. So common in fact that most of the modern engines are designed in such a way that if a bird is sucked into the engine, it damages only the fan blades (the biggest ones in front) but then flow around the engine, not through the engine core. So unless you hit a huge flock which damages almost all the fan blades, you should be in fact fine
To be fair, Medical and Cabin rated pressure oxigen tanks, will not help you survive the ascent from underwater either, deepsea oxygen tanks need a pressure regulator because there is pressure on the tank itself and you need to constantly adjust the rate it gives you oxygen with the depth
At 24:56, that's a Sand Tiger shark - whole different beast from a Tiger Shark. Sand Tiger sharks are generally not aggressive whereas Tiger sharks are one of the most aggressive of all sharks. I think maybe the Bull Shark is at the top with Tiger #2 and Great White #3.
@@A_Stereotypical_HereticIt has been a long, ongoing debate. Heck, when I lived in Monterey (around 2008 or 9), a surfer was killed by a Great White (it was a bit further south between Pacifica and Carmel IIRC). Great Whites (from what I was told at the Monterey Aquarium) will eat ANYTHING when they are hungry. Bulls and Tigers on the other hand, will bite, then eat ANYTHING at ANYTIME. I dunno but I hope to never meet any of those 3 wise men...
@@A_Stereotypical_Hereticyeah idk about that bull shark takes both of those gw hit you once and very rarely will go at you again you will like die from that hit but a bull shark won’t stop till there is nothing left of you
Wait wait. When you're in a confined space with way too many people (like underwater plane), the priority usually isn't the lack of oxygen -- it's too much CO2. And the bodyguard addresses that, such as dizziness. Thank you Apollo 13.
I just saw this movie two days ago, and the part with the divers confused the hell out of me. Your divers just jumped out your plane, and you realize you're low on fuel so screw those guys, we need to refill. We'll be back in a couple of hours.
@@evandaymon8303 This. I don't know anything about naval rescue but shouldn't there have been some kind of gps tracker to tag the plane? So even if the divers died, the Coast Guard could get a boat out there for rescue.
5:02 it’s actually very rare for bird strikes to cripple an aircraft. This is what made the Hudson incident so unusual but that was a plane which lost both engines early into the flight and so didn’t have much speed to begin with
"What would you do?" I dunno, probably die? I mean......it's far enough down...that plane is just gonna implode. And those inflatable vests aren't gonna inflate that far down because they dont have enough compressed air to inflate enough, so they're just stuck down there anyways. Great movie, but incredibly implausible.
Decompression sicknesses would not be a problem when initially mentioned. It takes a while for your body to adjust to higher pressure. If they all left the plane swimming for the surface with a few minutes their Decompression symptoms would be minor.
A) I was assuming the grandmother was lying about being a strong swimmer so that others wouldn't try to argue with her staying behind. B) For folks having a tizzy: Picking a film, watching, scripting, recording, editing, and posting almost certainly takes longer than four days unless Nerd is an absolute machine. Two channels with similar concepts covering the same movie can happen. It doesn't mean it's plagiarism.
Exactly. Check out wikis twin films article. A popular recent example is Smallfoot (Warner Bros) and Abominable (Dreamworks) released in 2018 and 2019.
27:30 im pretty sure that playing metal is considered to draw in sharks. likely has to do with the vibrations this kind of music sends through the water, though i dont think we fully understand why atm also the sound of plastic bottles and aluminum foil crumbling under water WILL draw in all kinds of sharks, that is a often used technique in shark diving.
I'd say beaten. If it boils down to: Would never happen, it's beaten. Then if it's still beatable after giving several concession to accepting the premise, beatable. Leave unbeatable to things that require sheer luck or niche skills in order to survive OR are legit you're dead the moment you are in the situation.
I love this silent rivalry with How to Beat. I did the research..your channel and first How To Beat video came first. I'm on your side. Plus your voice is awesome. And you're a better presenter. And your head doesn't bounce around all over the screen every time you talk. Unlike How To Beat (Once you see it, you can't unsee it)
How to beat is a hack. Nerd explains is better. Sense of humor, voice, knowledge, etc. just better. Not perfect... But not as annoying as that how to beat guy.
Also worth noting: the first shark kill, the man gets dragged back down into the water. Sharks can't swim backwards so it wouldnt be possible for it to drag the man down like that. It would have to grab him, do a 180° turn and swim away with him.
Sharks: i am the product of 450 million years of refinement and evolution, an apex predator in the seas, with no natural predators, and nothing to fear. Also sharks: AHHHHHH BUBBLES
It's one thing to survive when it depends on one's own individual choices, but the entire situation is down to sheer luck. First of all, you need to survive a plane crash. Then you need to have been in the right seating so you didn't drown when it crashed, or been thrown from the plane WHILE it was crashing. Then you have to survive slowly running out of oxygen while being unable to leave due to being surrounded by sharks, PLUS surviving the stupidity of the passengers. Then you have to basically swim through an unknown number of man-eating sharks using an air tank that's not designed for the situation, while also getting a fatal case of the bends. And then on top of all of that, you have to be found and rescued in the middle of the night, surrounded by open ocean, all before the sharks follow you and eat you anyway, or you die of the bends. And that's not mentioning your rescuer's ability to save you from said bends on the way back to base. This whole movie is UNBEATEN in my opinion.
An airplane can fly on one engine, and if all engines fail it essentially becomes a glider. The record a passager plane has glided without engines and landed is over 100 miles. The only way this movie is unbeaten is if both the pilot and copilot had no training and the engine safety measures failed. Also I know dcs is less of a concern for freediving, but I dont know what the rules would be for trapped in an airpocket. There is a chance though that they would be okay had they left the plane quickly. Assuming they could make it to the surface.
So, the engine wouldn't explode or catch on fire, it would do pretty muck the opposite. The paste from the bird would coat the inside of the combustion chamber causing all combustion internally to stop. So it would be a loud wack, and then it would seize up and stop.
No, they do catch on fire generally. It's called an engine flame out. There is so much compression in a jet engine that bird body would be gas exhaust within fractions of a second.
Exactly. Plus the bird splitter will only do so much when the birds fly in them. My fellow airplane guys we meet again. 😂 I worked as an engineer at Cessna and Currently work on the wing boxes and fuel tanks at Boeing
@@FaceFamous And I worked for Airbus Space and Defence and all I can say is that a bird can cause an engine flame out if its pastry mist reaches the combustion chamber. It is not the bird itself, but its residue blocking the pressured fuel line. It creates stutters and makes the engine unusable, unless you want to use a bomb to further fly. But what would be more concerning would be the aerodynamics of the jet fins, at that altitude they were flying maybe 600 miles, not even steel can withstand a 3kg solid object at that speed (not to mention that Boeing is known to use magnesium fins in their jet engines). It would create a non-centered momentum and rip away the planes wing if kept powered on
The plane just straight up sinking was freaking hilarious, like wtf? LMAO. They directors definitely did not research anything about emergency situations in planes at all.
This movie was beaten, because even in a world where Boeing has fallen so far, it still came across as utterly unrealistic. That which cannot happen cannot beat us.
37:00 Nana a 'Top Swimmer', eh? Not the best Medic... but a Salute to Nana here. She's not taking the Kit, because she knows she ain't making it. Selfless, in the end. Bravo, Nanny, Bravo.
Unfortunately sharks are not afraid of diving equipment and additionally favor heavy metal music (via fluff shark week study a couple years ago) because it may remind them of the sound of struggling fish 🐠
Pilots would have gotten a crew alert message as soon as that engine got warm. Then they would pull the fire shutoff. Also cool thing about an engine fire on a commercial plane airliner, is that the the engine is designed to burn itself off the plane, so in theory the engine will just fall off to prevent fire and shrapnel from spreading. Assuming they can’t put the fire out.
I don't think I've ever seen anything so absolutely and perfectly mid in my entire life. Been waiting for Nerd and Cinema Sins and the others to give us their takes cos this movie was a special one.
25:40 Typically the first type of shark nicknamed "The Shipwreck Shark" Is the Oceanic Whitetip Shark; As the vibrations from the coming crashes of Planes/Boats. They tend to be the first to investigate such potential "Food" cases.
....also the air pocket in the fuselage? Also, also...once the plane hit the water, that was their opportunity to get out of the plane instead of just sitting there looking at each other. Also the classic nurse or medical professional as a survivor and the engineer or military personnel.
In order to slow oxygen deprivation is to actually splash around the water which helps gas exchange.. just like fish in a fish tank creating surface movement of the water promotes the gas exchange releasing the oxygen in the water and absorbing and removing CO2 levels. But only a small amount of the CO2 will be exchanged!! But releasing the oxygen from the water is the most important for the immediate future..
Just gotta point out that I'm almost certain the regulators those divers were using before getting turned into shark-bait would have no oxygen left, unless they very politely turned off the air-supply while getting eaten... they're supposed to constantly pump air. Also, what even happened to diver #2, it looks like he just decided to sit down and die for... literally no reason.
decrompession isnt really necessarry for free diving to my knowledge, the inside of the plane should have the same atmosperic pressure as the surface so they most likely wouldnt need to decrompess on the way up though i doubt anyone is making that swim without drowning
Of what I know of sharks they wouldn't be like in this movie. Sharks don't eat humans except in certain circumstances. I heard that animal find humans quite disgusting and I would agree when thinking of all the chemicals we put into our bodies daily. The only reason I could see the sharks being there were if there were passengers bleeding which could attract the sharks, but even then, they would probably not been that aggressive against the living. The reasons sharks might bite humans could be because they are curious and don't have any other way of touching or we splash around too much which the shark see as a provocation. There are around 4 deaths a year from shark attacks which is nothing compared to all other ways humans die by like car crashes, or just by other humans. Anyways, sharks are misunderstood and even if they are scary, are relatively harmless against humans, mostly because we aren't their food source.
Funny enough, that part about playing Metallica actually would bring a different breed of shark. Great whites are actually known to come to boats playing metal or heavy metal music.
It's actually better for the first officer to fly the plane and the captain to be running checklists and troubleshooting in an emergency. I'm an airline pilot and former cargo captain and once you get a certain threshold of flying experience in a plane, flying it becomes the easy part - being able to step back and get the big picture view and be more of the "overseer" of the emergency is what is hard, and that task usually gets deferred to the more experienced pilot. That's how it was at my former cargo job and that's how it is in my current airline, but maybe it's different outside of the U.S. Oh and you wouldn't land OEI on autopilot. Anyways, love your videos!
Only a select few airlines that I know of are still around with rigorous training and employ based on stress management and qualifications similar to military training. I'm not afraid of flying, but I'm afraid of putting my life in the hands of people who are hired on by airlines that are looking for an ESG/DIE score. So I've stuck to the ground and the roads ever since 2016 or so.
So the teeth on the sharks,the way they were positioned suggest it was a tiger shark. Their teeth curve opposite of eachother from the middle and the teeth on these shark seem to the same. Of course,this is very bad news since tiger sharks and Bull sharks are infamous for eating whatever is there,even humans.
I wouldnt suggest blasting metalica, you would need music with a higher pitch. lower freqency sounds attract sharks! I remember an old episode of flipper where they had a radio in the water and it attracted a shark and flipper had to save the day! I mean the information is factual and not just from flipper but fun fact?
I've come to love when movies try to use tourniquets JUST because I know that 99% of the time they're doing it wrong and it's so fun to watch Nerd go off about how and why they're wrong.
I dont think theyd need to worry about Bends when surfacing since the plane was already depressurized before entering the water. Free divers can go really deep and back quickly without problems because its the mixed air in diving tanks that alter the blood chemistry, but regular air is ok.
You and Roanoke gaming should collab you two would be perfect if yall made a channel together or even just a video together two men with beards and good senses of humor, he could explain the biology and how something would function and you could go into detail on how to beat it
I miss the alternative background music you used for a period of time 2 years ago. Should swap between 'em once in a while imo! Awesome content as usual regardless though haha, love watching any video you post!
Kyle: "Why is there a shark on a plane?"
The sharks: "Why's this plane in the Ocean bro?"
Fun fact: there are more planes in the ocean than sharks in the sky
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@coreyklaustermeier5692 Sharknado would like a word with you my good sir 😂
@@TGT2012 hahahaha
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The fact that you approach these videos with the air of a disgruntled fireman trying to rescue people makes this all the more hilarious.
This movie reminds me of the man who was rescued by divers after he spent several days trapped in an air pocket in a boat underwater.
Yeah that's gotta suck!
That was quite a lucky man
I thought of this too! What's crazier is that the guy became a diver after
in PITCH BLACK with under the crushing sound of the ocean, that story was actually crazy
the worst part about that entire ordeal was that it was pitch black and he had to swim through the corpses of his friends to find a bigger air pocket
just call Jason Statham his shark plot armor is unbreakable
Sharks, gangsters, car wrecks, fall damage, bullets, his armor is all purpose.
Not all purpose. Mars managed to kill him
Throwing hands with them sharks
MEG was pretty interesting to me, despite its flaws
As compared to Colm Meaney's Plane plot armor, which is garbage (see this and Die Hard 2)
*"He said the thing."*
Top rule of survival in potentially harrowing situations. You never say the thing.
Saying the thing means the thing inevitably happens
Everything goes haywire if one fool says "What can go wrong?"
You can't be serious with this shit 🤦
W-what is the thing?
@@alvarodiogolopessousa5911 3:10
You never say that, or any variation of that.
I'm immortal, I can never die... nothing bad will ever happen to me
Moral of the story: don’t get on a Boeing 57 plane nowadays, or be rich enough to afford your own, or have enough money to fly on private jets.
It dose not even make sense for the movie as one the characters is the governors daughter they would be filthy rich like from what I can see in this they could not even afford 1st class tickets.
Or boeing in general at time of this writing they made some really crappy planes in name of making deadlines and profit
I thought we have learned the last couple of weeks to not get on any boeing plane, what ever model.
@@Gripen1974it is safer to fly than to get into a car. If you do not think that people should get on a plane better not get into a car because comparatively that is suicide.
another happy landing
Former diver here. I cant say how correct this is, because it has been over a decade since i last certified, but AFAIK if the air pocket you are in is surface pressure (like in the crashed plane) you could swim out of the water and up to the surface as long as you properly execute an emergency ascent. The bends occur when you dive because you are breathing compressed air for an extended period of time.
I haven't watched the video but I assume water was entering the aircraft but there was an air pocket.
If there was no rigid barrier between the water and the air then the air is being compressed by the water pressure.
Unlike a submarine where the hull prevents the air being compressed.
@@retsaMinnavoiGas he said, air compression sickness requires a while off compressed air.
@@toast6375 the air pocket inside the plane would indeed be compressed air.
The OP said the air pocket in the sunken plane would be surface pressure.
It would actually be compressed by the water pressure pushing against it.
It would only remain at surface pressure after sinking if there was a rigid separation between the air and the water but because the plane has a big hole, that's not the case here.
It's the same reason a balloon gets smaller the deeper you go in water even though no air has escaped... the water pressure is compressing the air.
Functionally it is exactly the same as air compressed inside an air cylinder.
Perhaps you're saying that if they left straight away they wouldn't have time to develop issues from breathing this compressed air but that's not really what the OP said.
To make it clearer, the air in a scuba tank is compressed to extremely high PSI but the regulator controls the amount that is released so it is roughly the same pressure as the surrounding water.
If you have an air pocket at 60ft under water without a rigid barrier it is being compressed to roughly 40PSI, if you're scuba diving with a tank at 60ft you're breathing air that is roughly compressed to 40PSI.
If the regulator on a scuba tank provided noticeably lower pressure than the surrounding water then nothing would come out, if the regulator supplied noticeably higher pressure than the surrounding water then you would suddenly pop when trying to take a breath.
That's what I was thinking all along.
15:12 its not the fuselage that keeps them afloat in water its the wings. More specifically the fuel tanks. Procedure is to dump all the fuel in any crash scenario, this leaves a massive air tank in both wings if the dump valve closes back properly. Even if it doesnt, it would still take a long time for water to flood them considering pressure gradients
pressure gradients provided by? or existing between? please clarify and don't be vague
@@sedemafenyo turn a cup or glass upside down and push it into a sink full of water, all the way to the bottom. The air inside the cup will displace the water and remain dry even fully submerged as long as you keep it facing downward, much like dump valves on fuel tanks do. That's the best way I can explain air vs water pressure without being vague and technical. But we can go into the technicals of it if you want
@@sedemafenyoBro wtf?
@@soiledflapjacks1938 maybe he wants to talk more about pressure systems? 😂
@@A_Stereotypical_HereticI've got a pressure system (I just ate too much taco bell)
This movie doesn't even realize that the very first shark death wouldn't happen as easily, because a Shark can't swim backwards.
They could have used the oxygen generators from the emergency masks. It doesn't activate unless you pull on it. Plane was empty so there is plenty.
That oxygen only lasts about 10 minutes, and if it's a chemical generator it would be sheer luck if it was functional.
@@A_Stereotypical_Hereticit might still work depending on what chemicals they use
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic each one is 15 minutes, they could have grabbed multiple ones for each person.
Those cans are also triable with water. wounded the can explode do to the water?
@@antoniohagopian213 and who would carry these multiple oxygen tanks? And how? They're not huge, but they're not tiny.
You can also use the amount of light they can see through the windows to estimate their depth. By 120 feet, saltwater will have absorbed nearly all visible red light, so considering they can still very much see the color red, (helpfully demonstrated by a few of their fellow passangers) it's safe to assume they can't be any deeper than 120 feet. Still dangerous for sure, but survivable if they move quick!
This may be the single dumbest comment I've ever read in my life... And I watch flat earth debates...
passangers@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic
lmao
@@stephensarow2127well that's equally dumb. There is no gauging your depth with light when you're under water. Not in any meaningful or helpful way.
@A_Stereotypical_Guy I don't know about that. Being able to tell if I'm descending or not by if it gets lighter or darker sounds useful. I'm not sure when knowing how deep in the ocean you need to go to no longer see the color red will help, but just having a "we are no more than x feet deep" fact can probably help calm people down.
“wtf are sharks doing on a plane” man idk it’s almost like… you’re in the OCEAN 😭😭
Hey everyone, Pilot here. Birdstrikes as well general issues that lead to needing to fly OEI (One Engine Inoperative) are the single most trained thing in simulators for ATP pilots (the type of pilots who fly you for an airline). Airliners can *EASILY* fly on one engine, and while we may need to descend to an altitude where there is enough power to manage it, it will be okay. Flying is one of the safest methods of travel, and while it is totally acceptable and natural to feel fear or anxiety, don't let that stop you from flying with us.
Edit: And had I watched the video for 40 seconds longer, I would have heard/seen him say the exact same thing I said.
Somebodies trying to protect their career 😅
@@retsaMinnavoiG Can you blame them? This dumbass movie is actively trying to assassinate the moral character of their entire profession.
Nice try, but i know you're really three sharks in a trench coat.
@@witnessfox3509Damn! I almost missed that.
Should’ve been obvious, as those three sharks are great whites, and the trenchcoat is an entire circus tent.
Why they grouped up to try to disguise themselves as a freakishly giant human, I may never know.
@witnessfox3509 this coming from six foxes in a mechanics jump suit?
What I got from this is that the lawyers are going to have a field day with the airline and the arguments on percent of liability between the pilots and airline negligence are going to be epic. Also, they better hope the governor loses reelection. He is going to go to town on them for his nearly dead daughter.
Their stock price would literally do more of a dive than the plane
would have made a better movie too
That "I'm gonna break down the mistakes" sounded like he's about to say "I'm gonna break his spine".
Starting the video with murderous intent.
It bothers me that the divers don’t have any sort of marking floats to deploy as soon as they confirm the wreck.
Which can help to communicate with chopper.
They might have been able to bring a SMB with a spool of 100-150 feet. Maybe more. They could attach that at higher up on the slope if needed. I guess either if they communicate with pilots or go missing the GPS location is marked down.. lol. They didn't really have much time after confirming survivors to do anything before getting slaughtered.
This whole freakin' movie is a wash man lmfao nobody did any technical research before writing this script 100%
I've seen every explains video since this beginning, and its had its ups and downs. Mostly ups! This video is the first in a while that feels like its getting back to what makes the channel great, taking the time to break down situations in a bit more depth and doing the google work for me about situations I should never need to know anything about.
Keep it up :)
Day 93 of asking for a how to survive the crazy family in house of a thousand corpses
day 93 is crazy
@@roccodimaio6525 its day 1, havent seen him comment on any recent videos
We don’t need another uncharted guy
at this point it'd be easier for you to just make the video yourself lmao
Ezy don’t go to the house
So I’m gonna bust a bubble here. As soon as the cabin suffers decompression like that at 37k feet, everyone in there is gonna take a nap within seconds.
Yep then they would suffer the effect HACE ( HIGH Altitude Cerebral Edema ) aka brain swelling due to a lack of oxygen, it's what the climbers who climb Everest go through when they don't use oxygen and Everest is what...29k-30k feet high
@@chrismeyers5963 Actually no, it is sustained time at those altitudes which will cause edema as the body is attempting to acclimate. Short-times at that altitude (i.e. the time it takes the pilots to descend to below 14000ft) will simply lead to hypoxia and unconsciousness but most would immediately regain consciousness as soon as they descended (assuming they didn't put on their mask) Military and commercial pilots can take training which exposes them to those altitudes without oxygen to allow them to experience their personal hypoxia symptoms. Some people get sleepy, some start laughing, but knowing their symptoms can help them possibly recognize a hypoxia event in case the alarms didn't work. That obviously wouldn't be allowed if they could develop cerebral and pulmonary edema that quickly.
Wouldn't you be conscious until your body used up the supply of oxygen already in your blood, let's say 30-120 seconds?
Just a quick nerd dose of aerospace knowledge. Bird strikes are common. So common in fact that most of the modern engines are designed in such a way that if a bird is sucked into the engine, it damages only the fan blades (the biggest ones in front) but then flow around the engine, not through the engine core. So unless you hit a huge flock which damages almost all the fan blades, you should be in fact fine
To be fair, Medical and Cabin rated pressure oxigen tanks, will not help you survive the ascent from underwater either, deepsea oxygen tanks need a pressure regulator because there is pressure on the tank itself and you need to constantly adjust the rate it gives you oxygen with the depth
Damn, watched this movie for fun and man was I absolutely infuriated by what was going on there
Brandon (Colm Meaney) is one of the nicest celebrities I have ever met. I like seeing him in movies...even if they are B movies
Who else have you met?
Henry Cavill was probably the biggest, he was nice and all but very reserved. was right after the man of steel came out.@@jamie8037
He's a gem in Con Air
At 24:56, that's a Sand Tiger shark - whole different beast from a Tiger Shark. Sand Tiger sharks are generally not aggressive whereas Tiger sharks are one of the most aggressive of all sharks. I think maybe the Bull Shark is at the top with Tiger #2 and Great White #3.
very correct
also longimanus and the big hammerheads do attack also pretty regularily, but nothing compared to bulls and tigers
The great white is the most aggressive, the bull shark is the most dangerous.
@@A_Stereotypical_HereticIt has been a long, ongoing debate. Heck, when I lived in Monterey (around 2008 or 9), a surfer was killed by a Great White (it was a bit further south between Pacifica and Carmel IIRC). Great Whites (from what I was told at the Monterey Aquarium) will eat ANYTHING when they are hungry. Bulls and Tigers on the other hand, will bite, then eat ANYTHING at ANYTIME. I dunno but I hope to never meet any of those 3 wise men...
@@A_Stereotypical_Hereticyeah idk about that bull shark takes both of those gw hit you once and very rarely will go at you again you will like die from that hit but a bull shark won’t stop till there is nothing left of you
@@A_Stereotypical_Hereticbull sharks are the most aggressive. Highest testosterone levels of any animal.
Wait wait. When you're in a confined space with way too many people (like underwater plane), the priority usually isn't the lack of oxygen -- it's too much CO2. And the bodyguard addresses that, such as dizziness. Thank you Apollo 13.
I just saw this movie two days ago, and the part with the divers confused the hell out of me.
Your divers just jumped out your plane, and you realize you're low on fuel so screw those guys, we need to refill. We'll be back in a couple of hours.
Haha just saw that. Its such a a meme frankly it wouldnt just be a helicopter coming. It would probably be a whole a medical ship and 2 helicopters.
The fact that they let them jump in when they were already pretty much at bingo fuel was wild to me.
Not to mention they dont have deployers to signal the helicopters that they found the plane
@@evandaymon8303 This. I don't know anything about naval rescue but shouldn't there have been some kind of gps tracker to tag the plane?
So even if the divers died, the Coast Guard could get a boat out there for rescue.
@@TheOmniboomTHANK YOU wait do the old models have that they said specifically that it was old
We sppreciate how well you articulate your insights. You'll always have our support no matter what.
TRYNA GET CELL RECEPTION ON OCEAN FLOOR IS CRAZY 😂😂😂
Lmao ended the video after that had to go to sleep on that note
5:02 it’s actually very rare for bird strikes to cripple an aircraft. This is what made the Hudson incident so unusual but that was a plane which lost both engines early into the flight and so didn’t have much speed to begin with
"What would you do?" I dunno, probably die? I mean......it's far enough down...that plane is just gonna implode. And those inflatable vests aren't gonna inflate that far down because they dont have enough compressed air to inflate enough, so they're just stuck down there anyways. Great movie, but incredibly implausible.
Decompression sicknesses would not be a problem when initially mentioned. It takes a while for your body to adjust to higher pressure. If they all left the plane swimming for the surface with a few minutes their Decompression symptoms would be minor.
36:03 Nah, that’s just Aqua-man doing his thing again.
32:08 jaws looking out for that man's financial well-being
By chewing his foot 😂😂😅
A) I was assuming the grandmother was lying about being a strong swimmer so that others wouldn't try to argue with her staying behind.
B) For folks having a tizzy: Picking a film, watching, scripting, recording, editing, and posting almost certainly takes longer than four days unless Nerd is an absolute machine. Two channels with similar concepts covering the same movie can happen. It doesn't mean it's plagiarism.
Exactly. Check out wikis twin films article. A popular recent example is Smallfoot (Warner Bros) and Abominable (Dreamworks) released in 2018 and 2019.
Damn that jet was basically Spirit Airlines
27:30 im pretty sure that playing metal is considered to draw in sharks.
likely has to do with the vibrations this kind of music sends through the water, though i dont think we fully understand why atm
also the sound of plastic bottles and aluminum foil crumbling under water WILL draw in all kinds of sharks, that is a often used technique in shark diving.
Probably because it mimics bone snapping, which equals a nice scavenged meal for a shark
I'd say beaten. If it boils down to: Would never happen, it's beaten. Then if it's still beatable after giving several concession to accepting the premise, beatable.
Leave unbeatable to things that require sheer luck or niche skills in order to survive OR are legit you're dead the moment you are in the situation.
The aquaman joke got a solid chuckle out of me, I give it 8 lobsters out of 10 sharks
I love this silent rivalry with How to Beat. I did the research..your channel and first How To Beat video came first. I'm on your side. Plus your voice is awesome. And you're a better presenter. And your head doesn't bounce around all over the screen every time you talk. Unlike How To Beat (Once you see it, you can't unsee it)
I watch both and I enjoy both it’s not that serious
Didn't they change the narrator?
How to beat is a hack. Nerd explains is better. Sense of humor, voice, knowledge, etc. just better. Not perfect... But not as annoying as that how to beat guy.
-Stole his entire premise, intro, and series name
You: it's not that serious
LMFAO🤣
I think How To Beat gets things wrong more than Nerd Explains. How To Beat does have anime though.
Also worth noting: the first shark kill, the man gets dragged back down into the water. Sharks can't swim backwards so it wouldnt be possible for it to drag the man down like that. It would have to grab him, do a 180° turn and swim away with him.
Sharks: i am the product of 450 million years of refinement and evolution, an apex predator in the seas, with no natural predators, and nothing to fear.
Also sharks: AHHHHHH BUBBLES
It's one thing to survive when it depends on one's own individual choices, but the entire situation is down to sheer luck.
First of all, you need to survive a plane crash.
Then you need to have been in the right seating so you didn't drown when it crashed, or been thrown from the plane WHILE it was crashing.
Then you have to survive slowly running out of oxygen while being unable to leave due to being surrounded by sharks, PLUS surviving the stupidity of the passengers.
Then you have to basically swim through an unknown number of man-eating sharks using an air tank that's not designed for the situation, while also getting a fatal case of the bends.
And then on top of all of that, you have to be found and rescued in the middle of the night, surrounded by open ocean, all before the sharks follow you and eat you anyway, or you die of the bends. And that's not mentioning your rescuer's ability to save you from said bends on the way back to base.
This whole movie is UNBEATEN in my opinion.
In the movies universe youre right the movie was unbeaten. In reality it was.
An airplane can fly on one engine, and if all engines fail it essentially becomes a glider. The record a passager plane has glided without engines and landed is over 100 miles. The only way this movie is unbeaten is if both the pilot and copilot had no training and the engine safety measures failed. Also I know dcs is less of a concern for freediving, but I dont know what the rules would be for trapped in an airpocket. There is a chance though that they would be okay had they left the plane quickly. Assuming they could make it to the surface.
So, the engine wouldn't explode or catch on fire, it would do pretty muck the opposite. The paste from the bird would coat the inside of the combustion chamber causing all combustion internally to stop. So it would be a loud wack, and then it would seize up and stop.
No, they do catch on fire generally. It's called an engine flame out. There is so much compression in a jet engine that bird body would be gas exhaust within fractions of a second.
Exactly. Plus the bird splitter will only do so much when the birds fly in them.
My fellow airplane guys we meet again. 😂
I worked as an engineer at Cessna and Currently work on the wing boxes and fuel tanks at Boeing
@@FaceFamous And I worked for Airbus Space and Defence and all I can say is that a bird can cause an engine flame out if its pastry mist reaches the combustion chamber. It is not the bird itself, but its residue blocking the pressured fuel line. It creates stutters and makes the engine unusable, unless you want to use a bomb to further fly. But what would be more concerning would be the aerodynamics of the jet fins, at that altitude they were flying maybe 600 miles, not even steel can withstand a 3kg solid object at that speed (not to mention that Boeing is known to use magnesium fins in their jet engines). It would create a non-centered momentum and rip away the planes wing if kept powered on
Dcs is less of a worry when you are operating on your own lung capacity rather than an outside source like a dive tank.
Kyle was the friend who screams “WE’RE GONNA CRAASH” to a nervous flyer.
"These things are regulated so heavily" ....*Boeing whistles*
Your explanation of what would happen in real life made me feel a lot better about flying
Love how this video is less of how to beat the sharks and more of how unrealistic it is
The plane just straight up sinking was freaking hilarious, like wtf? LMAO. They directors definitely did not research anything about emergency situations in planes at all.
27:30 sharks actually like metallica iirc. ACDC was their favorite but Metallica also attracted them according to some shark researcher
neva been so early love your videos man keep up the good work💗
Hey Colm Meaney! Always a pleasure to see that lad.
This is an all-timer. Nerd is on top of his game
Legitimate fear? Found the one scared of flying.
Not hard to do it seems
Sharks aren't even that aggressive. Sure they might be tiger sharks but sharks kill like 5 people per year.
There would be already so many bodies in the water that probably the sharks wouldn't even bother with the survivors.
This movie was beaten, because even in a world where Boeing has fallen so far, it still came across as utterly unrealistic. That which cannot happen cannot beat us.
Kyyyyyyyle... Im not the only one who cant resist saying it like a bemused Cartmen atleasst once when I come across it in my daily life!
37:00 Nana a 'Top Swimmer', eh?
Not the best Medic... but a Salute to Nana here. She's not taking the Kit, because she knows she ain't making it.
Selfless, in the end. Bravo, Nanny, Bravo.
i love watching these, but alot of times its ts akin ro "bring a rocket launcher just in case" lol
I know a lot of horror movies are needlessly stupid. But this movie takes the cake, holy smokes
Whoa, these are getting longer. I'm alright with that
And just like that. I'm a subscriber.
Unfortunately sharks are not afraid of diving equipment and additionally favor heavy metal music (via fluff shark week study a couple years ago) because it may remind them of the sound of struggling fish 🐠
Pilots would have gotten a crew alert message as soon as that engine got warm. Then they would pull the fire shutoff. Also cool thing about an engine fire on a commercial plane airliner, is that the the engine is designed to burn itself off the plane, so in theory the engine will just fall off to prevent fire and shrapnel from spreading. Assuming they can’t put the fire out.
when the cabin ripped open it was slightly exaggerated smh someone dead ass open the emergency door recently mid flight and nun that wild happened
This is going to be incredible for her dad’s campaign
I don't think I've ever seen anything so absolutely and perfectly mid in my entire life. Been waiting for Nerd and Cinema Sins and the others to give us their takes cos this movie was a special one.
25:40 Typically the first type of shark nicknamed "The Shipwreck Shark" Is the Oceanic Whitetip Shark; As the vibrations from the coming crashes of Planes/Boats. They tend to be the first to investigate such potential "Food" cases.
Just had to re sub to get notis. They really hating on your swag out here Nerd E.
This Boing commercial is lit.
....also the air pocket in the fuselage? Also, also...once the plane hit the water, that was their opportunity to get out of the plane instead of just sitting there looking at each other. Also the classic nurse or medical professional as a survivor and the engineer or military personnel.
Given how Boeing is doing nowadays, this was perfect
I kinda hoped when watching the movie that Brandon would have been one of the survivors
In order to slow oxygen deprivation is to actually splash around the water which helps gas exchange.. just like fish in a fish tank creating surface movement of the water promotes the gas exchange releasing the oxygen in the water and absorbing and removing CO2 levels. But only a small amount of the CO2 will be exchanged!! But releasing the oxygen from the water is the most important for the immediate future..
This is absolutely one of those movies where you actively root for the protagonists to die😂
This sounds like a pretty typical Boeing flight to me.
The way nana just gave up in the end pissed me off. Like she didn’t even try.
Just gotta point out that I'm almost certain the regulators those divers were using before getting turned into shark-bait would have no oxygen left, unless they very politely turned off the air-supply while getting eaten... they're supposed to constantly pump air. Also, what even happened to diver #2, it looks like he just decided to sit down and die for... literally no reason.
29:45 they should've learn the diver code xD Big fucking shark behind YOU in sign language
decrompession isnt really necessarry for free diving to my knowledge, the inside of the plane should have the same atmosperic pressure as the surface so they most likely wouldnt need to decrompess on the way up though i doubt anyone is making that swim without drowning
The air trapped inside would become pressurised by the water pressure.
Of what I know of sharks they wouldn't be like in this movie. Sharks don't eat humans except in certain circumstances. I heard that animal find humans quite disgusting and I would agree when thinking of all the chemicals we put into our bodies daily. The only reason I could see the sharks being there were if there were passengers bleeding which could attract the sharks, but even then, they would probably not been that aggressive against the living. The reasons sharks might bite humans could be because they are curious and don't have any other way of touching or we splash around too much which the shark see as a provocation. There are around 4 deaths a year from shark attacks which is nothing compared to all other ways humans die by like car crashes, or just by other humans. Anyways, sharks are misunderstood and even if they are scary, are relatively harmless against humans, mostly because we aren't their food source.
Remember self reviving is always faster than waiting for a respawn
Unbeaten, the only way to survive this scenario given the circumstances is through rescue.
Funny enough, that part about playing Metallica actually would bring a different breed of shark. Great whites are actually known to come to boats playing metal or heavy metal music.
It's actually better for the first officer to fly the plane and the captain to be running checklists and troubleshooting in an emergency. I'm an airline pilot and former cargo captain and once you get a certain threshold of flying experience in a plane, flying it becomes the easy part - being able to step back and get the big picture view and be more of the "overseer" of the emergency is what is hard, and that task usually gets deferred to the more experienced pilot. That's how it was at my former cargo job and that's how it is in my current airline, but maybe it's different outside of the U.S. Oh and you wouldn't land OEI on autopilot.
Anyways, love your videos!
I love these vids Nerd explains 😅 educational and you make it soo funny as well 😂😂
Only a select few airlines that I know of are still around with rigorous training and employ based on stress management and qualifications similar to military training.
I'm not afraid of flying, but I'm afraid of putting my life in the hands of people who are hired on by airlines that are looking for an ESG/DIE score. So I've stuck to the ground and the roads ever since 2016 or so.
So the teeth on the sharks,the way they were positioned suggest it was a tiger shark. Their teeth curve opposite of eachother from the middle and the teeth on these shark seem to the same. Of course,this is very bad news since tiger sharks and Bull sharks are infamous for eating whatever is there,even humans.
Rule #1: If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.
Rule #2: If it's Spirit, ain't getting near it.
I wouldnt suggest blasting metalica, you would need music with a higher pitch. lower freqency sounds attract sharks! I remember an old episode of flipper where they had a radio in the water and it attracted a shark and flipper had to save the day! I mean the information is factual and not just from flipper but fun fact?
Then early 80s Metallica would work.
Also fun fact Orca sounds keep sharks away if the sharks are in an area where orcas frequent
This is the first time I've heard of this movie and the number of inaccuracies is insane.
Im sad that Brandon died (As well as died "First"), but im happy that Danilo survived
I just realized while watching this. Sharks can’t swim backwards so once they swim up wouldn’t they get stuck?
And idk if it’s me or not but the row seems to small for a shark to swim in some shots
I've come to love when movies try to use tourniquets JUST because I know that 99% of the time they're doing it wrong and it's so fun to watch Nerd go off about how and why they're wrong.
44 mins!?! Hell yeah!!!
Same thing I said!!😂
I dont think theyd need to worry about Bends when surfacing since the plane was already depressurized before entering the water. Free divers can go really deep and back quickly without problems because its the mixed air in diving tanks that alter the blood chemistry, but regular air is ok.
conclusion to life: this guy watches too much tv
You and Roanoke gaming should collab you two would be perfect if yall made a channel together or even just a video together two men with beards and good senses of humor, he could explain the biology and how something would function and you could go into detail on how to beat it
I miss the alternative background music you used for a period of time 2 years ago. Should swap between 'em once in a while imo!
Awesome content as usual regardless though haha, love watching any video you post!