Rant. I ordered an Inergy Flex Power Bank last March. Initially, I was told this product would ship in May. When I hadn't received it by June, the company promised it was due to the supply chain issue and that the product would ship in August. When September came, the new deadline was December. Today I received an email saying, "Gee, we hope to ship by next March or April. Thanks for your patience." Umm, NOOOO!!!!! I'll take that full refund, thanks! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH INERGY...THEY DON'T DELIVER! I'm happy to take my business to a company that CAN deliver, thank you very much!
I already ordered my Flex 1500. I own the Apex and I like how it works. Thanks for your overview. It is a lot cheaper than the Titan and is a lot lighter. Titan cost 3000 dollars and the Flex 1500 cost 1350 dollars. I also like the look of it.
@@sonicsoftly me too. I chose to have two Inergy units instead of 1 Titan. I like having a back up. Titan is great for others maybe but not for my needs. I carry mine often in the back seat of my truck, not realistic with the Titan.
just learned about Inergy and was super stoked to learn about the Kodiak and the Apex only to find out that both products seeemed to be discontinued on inergy's website....kind of a bummer.
I wonder if the fan runs when you push on the DC power button? I'm old school I have the original Kodiak, yes it's not the quick charger one, it's not the fancy one, but I cannot say enough about it and with the Florida Sun 400 watts of solar on my roof it charges up in no time. I've had it in my van for over 4 years. Have not had one problem with it. I'm excited for the upgrades coming.
Looks like a great system and I just found out the weight is 26.5 pounds so very close to the Apex. I can't recommend it yet because I have not tested it yet but it looks promising. The battery seems like a nice addition for Kodiak and Apex users. Thanks for the comment and happy camping. Jim
If you don't need that absolutely incredible performance of the Titan, which I think of as a turn-key off-grid cabin solution, I could see this system from Inergy being just about perfect. It fills in a niche between the weanie "solar generators" and the Titan, for not much more than the biggest solar generator options. I don't like how slowly it charges with solar, out of the box, but it's great that you can scale that up, as needed. All in all, it looks like a great unit that I may wind up buying, once they work out any bugs.
Same here....tired of the the panel connectors being limited with their cables (poor selection in length) and no female adapter for E8C setup so they can be Daisy chained
Hi there. I have the apex. Is there a video anywhere that shows procedure to connect an agm battery to the apex?? Been searching but can’t find anyone who has done one. Thanks for all your videos
I also just found out it weighs 26.5 lb which is only 1.5 lb more than the Apex. I can't wait to test it out either. I hope it's another good system. Thanks for using the code and happy camping. Jim
Hi there can I run a house hold fridge and how do I connect it with no electricity plug, as I'm using a battery power box and has an electricity plug and can you charge it with a gas/petrol generator?
@@gypsyreid35 There are 6 AC outlets, so you can power your fridge from one of them. if your gas generator has a DC output, then you can charge this with it, but buying solar panels one time is much cheaper in the long run than if you want to always just use that gas generator to charge it.
Great job explaining the system. Not sure I fully understand the way the solar charge controllers (superboost modules) work, but I understand enough to make an informed decision. Could use a bit more information on how to charge from a vehicle or connect (if possible) to an extra AGM or LiFePo battery pack. I would really find useful is a combo of the AC and DC units. If I could get the AC unit with 13.8Vdc regulated output at 30A would be absolutely great. 10A will not do it. Maybe an add on module....
The surges really only designed to last for a few seconds to get large powerful Motors going. And induction cooker at 1800 watts is going to continually draw 1800 watts so you should look at getting one that is it the 1500 watt or lower range. Otherwise it might shut off prematurely during your cooking process.
I'm new to this but extremely interested. In an emergency how long could you run your average refrigerator and 10,000 watt window unit while using your solar panels on sunny days?
Hi Jamie, I have seen your videos about installing a Zamp Solar Plug on the exterior wall of RV to plug in the portable solar panel . However, I can't find that video on the list. Can please kindly let me know the link ? Thank you very much
I bought the Flex 1500, extra batteries (2 total) and the supercharger, along with 2 solar panels from Inergy. I am planning on using them as a backup generator in my house for power outages. I will be powering a large deep freezer, fridge, laptop, and cell phones. Do I need to buy any extra cables or adapters? When fully charged, how long will it power the devices I mentioned above? I don't know much about power and generators. I am grateful for any advice or info people can share.
hi, you can buy one of these plugs you plug into your PowerPoint, and then your device plugs into it and it has an LCD display showing you how much power your device uses. You could also read the compliance plate which is on the back or bottom of most electrical products. After knowing how much power it uses you can work out how long the battery will feed it with power before depleted, for example, 1 flex battery stores just over 1000wat, if you plug your fan-forced heater into your device and put it on low heat it will use about 1kw which is 1000watt on high setting 2kw 2000watt this means on low heat you can run the heater for 1 hour until the battery is depleted. heaters use a huge amount of power and are just an example. another example would be your fridge ours uses about 130watt when running just remember fridges probably only run for 10 minutes every hour and then switch off unless you got the door open dropping the temp so to work it out you would get your calculator and type in 1000(battery) divide by 130 (fridge) = 7.69 meaning your fridge running all the time with the door open would take around 7.5 hours to deplete one flex battery. Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, hope that helps if you go to eBay type in Power Energy Monitor buy one of them only 20 bucks
you may want to consider adding two more 100 watt solar panels to your system. If you look on each appliance there should be a plate or label that shows the watts or amps rating for the appliance. If it shows watts that means that is how many watts the appliance would use if running continuously for 1 hour. Then calculate how many hours you would need to run it. If your appliance only shows amps, that's how many amps it pulls per hour if running continuously. Then you just need to convert from amp hours to watt hours - the formula is (Amp hours)*(Volts) = (Watt hours). For example, if you have a 89 Amp hour battery rated at 12 Volts, the power is 89Ah * 12V = 1068Wh (like with the Flex battery). So this means that each Flex battery will provide you approx. 89 amp hours of reserve power or 1068 watt hours. Once you total up your expected energy demand per hour, you will know your answer about how many batteries you really need. Remember - more batteries also means you need to keep them charged, which probably means you need more solar panels. It sounds like with two batteries you'll be close, but you need more than 2 panels to keep them charged unless you have another charging source (like a wall outlet), but if power is out for a long time, you'll need solar panels.
Should we wait for the cost of batteries to come down? The Tesla Cybertruck for 40thousand has a much bigger battery. Will this technology be adaptable to solar generator uses?
For now Tesla does not support car to grid, but there is massive demand from most Tesla owners. So they may add that in in the next few years but today's (or next year's cyber truck) is not likely to have vehicle to grid capability.
Newbie here, so take it easy on my LOL. Our off-grid cabin would use about 30,000 kwh a day. I just came across this Inergy product. Using approximately 30 batteries, would that provide enough power for one day? Maximum single item could be an AC unit in a trailer that is 1500 watts and 3000 on startup. Also, do the batteries have to stack on one another or can you put them in stacks of 10 with a cable connection between the stacks. Thanks!
Hi Andy. The inergy flex is not what you want for that application. It would work in theory but your really pushing the limits of the 1500 watt inverter. You need to buy normal lithium batteries, panels, a inverter, ect, and build your own system. It will be cheaper and will handle more power by far. I can help you choose some good options if you want. The inergy flex is designed to be portable. You need a more robust permanent install in my opinion.
@@fullmoonadventureclub Thank you for the feedback. That's what I kind of figured, but found the Inergy Flex 1500 pretty interesting. Thinking of getting a battery bank going and charging with my 1 Honda EU2200i generators and maybe a couple of solar panels. We'll also want to build a pole barn type structure with roof only for our trailer and would rather put solar panels on that roof and off of the ground. I hate piece mealing over time, but probably the only way we'll be able to afford it. Figuring the battery bank will be the most expensive component. Since we will only be using the cabin 3-4 weeks a year and 5-7 long weekends, my concern is the sustainability of a battery bank. Thoughts on batteries? Thanks again for the feedback and I am enjoying your videos.
@@AndrewJohnson149 that sounds like a better way to go if you're really using a lot of power during the day. As far as battery Banks go my current favorite is from Lion energy and it's a 1300 UT 105 amp hour battery. With this code it'll save you 15% off your entire purchase. lionenergy.com/discount/adventure?redirect=%2F%3Fafmc%3Dadventure Let me know if you have any other questions.
I’m really interested in buying the flex but I can’t find a real live video review. Will you be getting one flex to test and give a full review?? Thanks for sharing the videos
You answered every question that I had, what do you recommend me getting as far as charging this solar generator do you think I should get to 150 watt solar panels two 100 watt solar panels?
Well, the subtraction of the RV 30 amp plug rules me out as I love my Apex due to 30 amp direct plug in. Use this option all of the time while traveling and overnights in parking lots or rest stops. Bummer they deleted 30 am option....
Yeah I was very disappointed to see the 30 amp plug go as well. They're only response to that is that the 110 plugs can handle the full power of the inverter so all you need is a small adapter. You can get one for like five bucks on Amazon. Still unfortunate though I agree. Jim
@@thesurvivalist. Yes, my Apex has been great so far and I installed changeover switch like Full Moon Adventure video and yes will need to add expansion battery. Just wish I could piggyback a Battleborn directly to my Apex. I use battleborn for boat trolling motor and many other uses. The Inergy expansion battery may not be viable expense-wise due to not being able to use it as a multipurpose battery like Battleborn i.e. kayaking, bassboat, RV and others. Unless I'm wrong, expansion battery cannot be used as a stand-alone multi-use device. Inergy makes good product but I can see they subscribe to the Apple business model of ALL proprietary use, which limits the consumers use. I can foresee having to build my own system at some point and using Battleborn or others as expansions when they are not being used for boating. Fun fun...
fullmoonadventureclub an adapter will only get you 12.5 amps when plugged into a Flex (check the specs for their adapter under accessories). 12.5 amps will not handle a rv with microwave, pump and furnace fan. Not to mention the a/c. The Titan will run everything on an rv with its rv plug. This is a no brainer. Get the Titan if you have an rv.
There is but you have to install a transfer switch. If there is a power outage you can NOT have power flowing back into the grid or you could hurt a lineman working on the power lines. You will need a electrician for this. Jim
@@fullmoonadventureclub any power company line worker should be smart enough to isolate themself from power surges during an outage - but i get what you're saying. Electrician not necessarily needed though, it's not that difficult to install a transfer switch
They just opened up all the links for accessories that includes the $170 deposit for just the battery. This is to help out all the current Apex and Kodiak users that have been waiting for a battery expansion for their systems. Still super disappointed that we are gonna go another hurricane season without the battery expansions. It might be worth waiting a bit and doing an update video since their website keeps rolling out info.
It is disappointing that the batteries are still not available. I have been waiting for ever. I posted the video just to familiarize people with the new system. I will be doing a new video when I can test the system. Let's hope the batteries will ship out when they say they are. Thank you for the comment and happy camping. JIm
After watching this video I ordered one in December but I'm now wired that I have made a mistake since I have been getting the run-around when I ask about when I will arrive After seven months Its only natural to feel that I may have made a mistake
It's been a long road for everybody. However, I wouldn't worry because they're starting to ship a lot faster now and you should be getting yours very soon. I've been communicating closely with the company and rest assured you should be getting your unit soon. I am super pleased with the Prototype and I think you will be excited about the expandability options of this unit.
I don't understand why wattage is capped at 400. If you can go up to 90V, and you can exceed 400 watts well below a safe amperage, what exactly stops watts from rising above 400? I thought it was simply volts times amps = watts?
They discontinued the 30 amp plug. However, they say that the 110 plugs can handle the entire output of the inverter so all you need is a small adapter.
Very nice but no 30 amp for my tiny house and only 1500 watt inverter. I will stick with my first choice, the newer Titan with 2 lifepo4 bstteries, cost more but does way more.
Appreciate you sharing info on this new product. Do you mind sharing how exactly is the expansion pack connect to the APEX via the terminal (i dont see terminal on the expansion pack). In your opinion, do you think you can still use the terminals with the expansion pack connected? (thats how I am using the power from the Apex, via the terminals). The Inergy site is really not clear on how it works with Apex and Kodiac. I bought the Apex not so long ago because the company was promoting their upcoming expansion pack. Now that ,its out they seem to focus on pushing sales on the entire FLEX setup....i cannot find much on how it works with Apex. Thank you very much!
Darn it I meant to mention that in the video. No more 30 amp plug but they do have an adapter. Apparently the 110 volt plugs will handle the full power of the inverter so you don't necessarily need the 30 amp plug anymore. I was sad to see it go also.
fullmoonadventureclub the adapter says the outlet is only 12.5 amps. Most of us rv users who have microwaves, a wifes hair blower, wont be able to use the flex unless we only use one item at a time. Some hair blowers will exceed the outlet by itself. It would be a pain to not be able to turn on your microwave when the pump and/or furnace is running. IMO the flex does not cover RV users very well. Titan is the way to go and also be able to run your A/c for short periods of time. Inergy needs to listen to RV users, like Titan people did.
do the batteries create any fumes if you charge indoors, i know car batteries have to be ventilated when charging are these flex batteries safe? anybody
I am guessing your gaming PC power supply is around 600 watts. So with one battery should be able to play for around two hours. If you have 600 watts of solar connected you can play all day and then two hours into the night. If you added extra batteries your time would increase. The great thing about this setup is it that you can expand it as much as you want. You also want to keep in mind that your gaming PC is not going to use 600 watts continuously it will depend on how hard you're running the system or your computer. A lot of times they don't run at the full 600 watts so your time would probably be a lot longer than that. My best guess would be about 3 hours maybe even 4 on a single battery.
I just checked on the status of the order I placed in May 2021. I was told that they are just now filling orders for March 2020 and they have no Idea when I will get my unit. If you order this now you may not get it until 2023.
Apparently they stopped giving out all discounts temporarily. I was disappointed as well. You could wait to order it but I could not get an exact date yet. :(
Dont preorder! I know its tempting but you are not likely going to get a better deal. Just a few months after it comes out they will be giving you a free panel or something for the same price. I gave into the hype and thought they were giving me a sweet deal before to preorder...
I applaud Inergy for their innovative new system. But they still have major problems: 1. Can not draw more than 1500 watts max, no matter if you have 1 or 96 batteries. 2. Still not using MC4 or Anderson Powerpole for solar port connection 3. Limited to 400 watts solar charge per controller or 1200 if you buy a supercharger for each battery. I own a Kodiak unit and like it so I'm not brand bashing here, but I have to say that the Titan solar generator, which I also have, is IMHO, a better real world unit. Each battery is twice the capacity of the Flex unit, it has true 3000 watts continuous output plus a 6000 watt surge capacity, and can handle 2000 watts of solar input with the built in twin MPPT controllers without having to buy any additional equipment. I do like that the Flex batteries are half the weight of the Titan units but then again they are half the capacity too. I guess it all boils down to what you are planning to use the unit for. To me the ability to pull 3000 watts continuously with the Titan sold me on it.
Valid points. I too was wondering why you'd be able to connect 96 batteries but not have an option for a bigger inverter. However, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they don't have a 3000 watt model in the works. I think energy is really still trying to keep their system very portable and at 26.5 lb it's only a pound and a half more than the Apex so that's definitely impressive. I have not had a chance to review the Titan generator but have heard a lot of talk about it. Maybe I'll try and get my hands on one so I can review it for everybody. Glad you're liking your Kodiak. I still have my Kodiak and Apex and they're both running strong despite my abuse. I would love to see a whole house solution from energy as I enjoy their products thus far. Thanks for your comments and happy camping.. jim
This situation is bad enough with proper communication. I think you missed email, check your junk box. You should have a couple apologies, an extra year warranty and probably $100 off. I received an email just today so one should be fresh.
Not the lowest price. Your code got me a zero dollar zero cent discount. There is a military and first responder discount, so....yeah, yours is not the lowest.
Rant. I ordered an Inergy Flex Power Bank last March. Initially, I was told this product would ship in May. When I hadn't received it by June, the company promised it was due to the supply chain issue and that the product would ship in August. When September came, the new deadline was December. Today I received an email saying, "Gee, we hope to ship by next March or April. Thanks for your patience." Umm, NOOOO!!!!! I'll take that full refund, thanks! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH INERGY...THEY DON'T DELIVER! I'm happy to take my business to a company that CAN deliver, thank you very much!
Got my flex. Excellent. Now I have the Kodiak and Flex. Great system.
Stay tuned tomorrow 😉
I already ordered my Flex 1500. I own the Apex and I like how it works. Thanks for your overview. It is a lot cheaper than the Titan and is a lot lighter. Titan cost 3000 dollars and the Flex 1500 cost 1350 dollars. I also like the look of it.
The weight is what makes the biggest difference for me vs the titan.
@@sonicsoftly me too. I chose to have two Inergy units instead of 1 Titan. I like having a back up. Titan is great for others maybe but not for my needs. I carry mine often in the back seat of my truck, not realistic with the Titan.
Still waiting on this product? Hope it produces.
Just pre-ordered one with your affiliate link. This thing looks amazing.
I appreciate that. I can't wait to get my hands on one for testing.
just learned about Inergy and was super stoked to learn about the Kodiak and the Apex only to find out that both products seeemed to be discontinued on inergy's website....kind of a bummer.
I wonder if the fan runs when you push on the DC power button?
I'm old school I have the original Kodiak, yes it's not the quick charger one, it's not the fancy one, but I cannot say enough about it and with the Florida Sun 400 watts of solar on my roof it charges up in no time. I've had it in my van for over 4 years. Have not had one problem with it. I'm excited for the upgrades coming.
The Kodiak is still my secret all time favorite. Still going strong also. :)
I just pre-ordered mine. I am just looking for something to power home appliances when the power goes out.
Hey Kenneth, I would highly recommend checking out the Point Zero Titan. It is a much better unit.
Was waiting for your input!
Looks like a great system and I just found out the weight is 26.5 pounds so very close to the Apex. I can't recommend it yet because I have not tested it yet but it looks promising. The battery seems like a nice addition for Kodiak and Apex users. Thanks for the comment and happy camping. Jim
Can't wait for your review on this!
If you don't need that absolutely incredible performance of the Titan, which I think of as a turn-key off-grid cabin solution, I could see this system from Inergy being just about perfect. It fills in a niche between the weanie "solar generators" and the Titan, for not much more than the biggest solar generator options. I don't like how slowly it charges with solar, out of the box, but it's great that you can scale that up, as needed. All in all, it looks like a great unit that I may wind up buying, once they work out any bugs.
Same here....tired of the the panel connectors being limited with their cables (poor selection in length) and no female adapter for E8C setup so they can be Daisy chained
They have mc4 connector
Hi there. I have the apex. Is there a video anywhere that shows procedure to connect an agm battery to the apex?? Been searching but can’t find anyone who has done one. Thanks for all your videos
I bought 2 Apex units last year, and just ordered a flex battery.
Oh man this is awesome can wait for your intell on this once you have it and thanks on the code....
I also just found out it weighs 26.5 lb which is only 1.5 lb more than the Apex. I can't wait to test it out either. I hope it's another good system. Thanks for using the code and happy camping. Jim
Hi there can I run a house hold fridge and how do I connect it with no electricity plug, as I'm using a battery power box and has an electricity plug and can you charge it with a gas/petrol generator?
@@gypsyreid35 There are 6 AC outlets, so you can power your fridge from one of them. if your gas generator has a DC output, then you can charge this with it, but buying solar panels one time is much cheaper in the long run than if you want to always just use that gas generator to charge it.
Great job explaining the system. Not sure I fully understand the way the solar charge controllers (superboost modules) work, but I understand enough to make an informed decision. Could use a bit more information on how to charge from a vehicle or connect (if possible) to an extra AGM or LiFePo battery pack.
I would really find useful is a combo of the AC and DC units. If I could get the AC unit with 13.8Vdc regulated output at 30A would be absolutely great. 10A will not do it. Maybe an add on module....
I am trying to get my hands on a test unit as soon as possible to really answer some questions. I will look into that for you. Take care. Jim
Thank you for sharing! This video is exactly the info I needed.
Wonder how long the surge lasts. Thinking of an induction cooker at 1800 watts
The surges really only designed to last for a few seconds to get large powerful Motors going. And induction cooker at 1800 watts is going to continually draw 1800 watts so you should look at getting one that is it the 1500 watt or lower range. Otherwise it might shut off prematurely during your cooking process.
Thank you!
I'm new to this but extremely interested. In an emergency how long could you run your average refrigerator and 10,000 watt window unit while using your solar panels on sunny days?
Hi Jamie, I have seen your videos about installing a Zamp Solar Plug on the exterior wall of RV to plug in the portable solar panel . However, I can't find that video on the list. Can please kindly let me know the link ? Thank you very much
I bought the Flex 1500, extra batteries (2 total) and the supercharger, along with 2 solar panels from Inergy. I am planning on using them as a backup generator in my house for power outages. I will be powering a large deep freezer, fridge, laptop, and cell phones. Do I need to buy any extra cables or adapters? When fully charged, how long will it power the devices I mentioned above? I don't know much about power and generators. I am grateful for any advice or info people can share.
hi, you can buy one of these plugs you plug into your PowerPoint, and then your device plugs into it and it has an LCD display showing you how much power your device uses. You could also read the compliance plate which is on the back or bottom of most electrical products. After knowing how much power it uses you can work out how long the battery will feed it with power before depleted, for example, 1 flex battery stores just over 1000wat, if you plug your fan-forced heater into your device and put it on low heat it will use about 1kw which is 1000watt on high setting 2kw 2000watt this means on low heat you can run the heater for 1 hour until the battery is depleted. heaters use a huge amount of power and are just an example. another example would be your fridge ours uses about 130watt when running just remember fridges probably only run for 10 minutes every hour and then switch off unless you got the door open dropping the temp so to work it out you would get your calculator and type in 1000(battery) divide by 130 (fridge) = 7.69 meaning your fridge running all the time with the door open would take around 7.5 hours to deplete one flex battery. Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, hope that helps if you go to eBay type in Power Energy Monitor buy one of them only 20 bucks
you may want to consider adding two more 100 watt solar panels to your system. If you look on each appliance there should be a plate or label that shows the watts or amps rating for the appliance. If it shows watts that means that is how many watts the appliance would use if running continuously for 1 hour. Then calculate how many hours you would need to run it. If your appliance only shows amps, that's how many amps it pulls per hour if running continuously.
Then you just need to convert from amp hours to watt hours - the formula is (Amp hours)*(Volts) = (Watt hours). For example, if you have a 89 Amp hour battery rated at 12 Volts, the power is 89Ah * 12V = 1068Wh (like with the Flex battery). So this means that each Flex battery will provide you approx. 89 amp hours of reserve power or 1068 watt hours.
Once you total up your expected energy demand per hour, you will know your answer about how many batteries you really need. Remember - more batteries also means you need to keep them charged, which probably means you need more solar panels.
It sounds like with two batteries you'll be close, but you need more than 2 panels to keep them charged unless you have another charging source (like a wall outlet), but if power is out for a long time, you'll need solar panels.
Should we wait for the cost of batteries to come down? The Tesla Cybertruck for 40thousand has a much bigger battery. Will this technology be adaptable to solar generator uses?
That is a good question. I'm afraid I don't have all those answers. I might look into it. Thanks for the comments and happy camping
For now Tesla does not support car to grid, but there is massive demand from most Tesla owners. So they may add that in in the next few years but today's (or next year's cyber truck) is not likely to have vehicle to grid capability.
Newbie here, so take it easy on my LOL. Our off-grid cabin would use about 30,000 kwh a day. I just came across this Inergy product. Using approximately 30 batteries, would that provide enough power for one day? Maximum single item could be an AC unit in a trailer that is 1500 watts and 3000 on startup. Also, do the batteries have to stack on one another or can you put them in stacks of 10 with a cable connection between the stacks. Thanks!
Hi Andy. The inergy flex is not what you want for that application. It would work in theory but your really pushing the limits of the 1500 watt inverter. You need to buy normal lithium batteries, panels, a inverter, ect, and build your own system. It will be cheaper and will handle more power by far. I can help you choose some good options if you want. The inergy flex is designed to be portable. You need a more robust permanent install in my opinion.
@@fullmoonadventureclub Thank you for the feedback. That's what I kind of figured, but found the Inergy Flex 1500 pretty interesting. Thinking of getting a battery bank going and charging with my 1 Honda EU2200i generators and maybe a couple of solar panels. We'll also want to build a pole barn type structure with roof only for our trailer and would rather put solar panels on that roof and off of the ground. I hate piece mealing over time, but probably the only way we'll be able to afford it. Figuring the battery bank will be the most expensive component. Since we will only be using the cabin 3-4 weeks a year and 5-7 long weekends, my concern is the sustainability of a battery bank. Thoughts on batteries? Thanks again for the feedback and I am enjoying your videos.
@@AndrewJohnson149 that sounds like a better way to go if you're really using a lot of power during the day. As far as battery Banks go my current favorite is from Lion energy and it's a 1300 UT 105 amp hour battery. With this code it'll save you 15% off your entire purchase. lionenergy.com/discount/adventure?redirect=%2F%3Fafmc%3Dadventure
Let me know if you have any other questions.
I’m really interested in buying the flex but I can’t find a real live video review. Will you be getting one flex to test and give a full review?? Thanks for sharing the videos
I should be getting one very soon.
You answered every question that I had, what do you recommend me getting as far as charging this solar generator do you think I should get to 150 watt solar panels two 100 watt solar panels?
Well, the subtraction of the RV 30 amp plug rules me out as I love my Apex due to 30 amp direct plug in. Use this option all of the time while traveling and overnights in parking lots or rest stops. Bummer they deleted 30 am option....
Yeah I was very disappointed to see the 30 amp plug go as well. They're only response to that is that the 110 plugs can handle the full power of the inverter so all you need is a small adapter. You can get one for like five bucks on Amazon. Still unfortunate though I agree. Jim
Check out the Point Zero Titan. It’s got the 30 amp plug
But as long as you have the Kodiak or Apex, you should be okay with the new battery they are offering!
@@thesurvivalist. Yes, my Apex has been great so far and I installed changeover switch like Full Moon Adventure video and yes will need to add expansion battery. Just wish I could piggyback a Battleborn directly to my Apex. I use battleborn for boat trolling motor and many other uses. The Inergy expansion battery may not be viable expense-wise due to not being able to use it as a multipurpose battery like Battleborn i.e. kayaking, bassboat, RV and others. Unless I'm wrong, expansion battery cannot be used as a stand-alone multi-use device. Inergy makes good product but I can see they subscribe to the Apple business model of ALL proprietary use, which limits the consumers use.
I can foresee having to build my own system at some point and using Battleborn or others as expansions when they are not being used for boating. Fun fun...
fullmoonadventureclub an adapter will only get you 12.5 amps when plugged into a Flex (check the specs for their adapter under accessories). 12.5 amps will not handle a rv with microwave, pump and furnace fan. Not to mention the a/c. The Titan will run everything on an rv with its rv plug. This is a no brainer. Get the Titan if you have an rv.
How long was the discount active? The Discount Code does NOT work. I called Inergy and the rep stated that they do not offer any discount codes.
Great video. Thx (from Canada)
So if the main charge controler goes bad, will any other charge controllers attached fail as well?
The 30amp ac outlet is gone :(
I noticed that too. The was the entire reason that I bought a 30 amp motorhome and the Apex! So I preordered a battery that I can connect to my Apex!
So is the 220 jack
@@freedomfighter1861 I wasn't aware it ever had a 22ov output...
If I built a large home system with this, is there any way to plug in and wite straight to my breaker box at home???
There is but you have to install a transfer switch. If there is a power outage you can NOT have power flowing back into the grid or you could hurt a lineman working on the power lines. You will need a electrician for this. Jim
Don't linemen isolate what they are working on for safety?
@@TimYorty probably but you still have to have a transfer switch. Jim
@@fullmoonadventureclub any power company line worker should be smart enough to isolate themself from power surges during an outage - but i get what you're saying. Electrician not necessarily needed though, it's not that difficult to install a transfer switch
@@TimYorty agreed, but for my liability I can't recommend it.
They just opened up all the links for accessories that includes the $170 deposit for just the battery. This is to help out all the current Apex and Kodiak users that have been waiting for a battery expansion for their systems. Still super disappointed that we are gonna go another hurricane season without the battery expansions.
It might be worth waiting a bit and doing an update video since their website keeps rolling out info.
It is disappointing that the batteries are still not available. I have been waiting for ever. I posted the video just to familiarize people with the new system. I will be doing a new video when I can test the system. Let's hope the batteries will ship out when they say they are. Thank you for the comment and happy camping. JIm
Thanks the research and great info
After watching this video I ordered one in December but I'm now wired that I have made a mistake since I have been getting the run-around when I ask about when I will arrive After seven months Its only natural to feel that I may have made a mistake
It's been a long road for everybody. However, I wouldn't worry because they're starting to ship a lot faster now and you should be getting yours very soon. I've been communicating closely with the company and rest assured you should be getting your unit soon. I am super pleased with the Prototype and I think you will be excited about the expandability options of this unit.
I don't understand why wattage is capped at 400. If you can go up to 90V, and you can exceed 400 watts well below a safe amperage, what exactly stops watts from rising above 400? I thought it was simply volts times amps = watts?
Does the Flex work with the Generlink? (transfer switch) Very helpful video!
Yes it would as long as the plugs are the same. You made need an adapter.
Ah, I think the 30A connect is missing. Maybe they are getting an RV unit-specific model? Thanks for sharing...
Would that be to charge with sure power?
They discontinued the 30 amp plug. However, they say that the 110 plugs can handle the entire output of the inverter so all you need is a small adapter.
Thanks for the reply! I pre ordered the system in a gold kit hopefully it fits my needs!
@@madmaxthemotomutt6464 glad I could help. I'll get the system soon and do a full review for you. Take care and happy camping. Jim
Very nice but no 30 amp for my tiny house and only 1500 watt inverter. I will stick with my first choice, the newer Titan with 2 lifepo4 bstteries, cost more but does way more.
Nice and well formed information.
When will you run a test with it we want to see what it can run?
I'm trying to get one as soon as I can. Hopefully that'll be this month. Jim
@@fullmoonadventureclub okay thanks I be waiting with your honest review I will get one
Appreciate you sharing info on this new product. Do you mind sharing how exactly is the expansion pack connect to the APEX via the terminal (i dont see terminal on the expansion pack). In your opinion, do you think you can still use the terminals with the expansion pack connected? (thats how I am using the power from the Apex, via the terminals). The Inergy site is really not clear on how it works with Apex and Kodiac. I bought the Apex not so long ago because the company was promoting their upcoming expansion pack. Now that ,its out they seem to focus on pushing sales on the entire FLEX setup....i cannot find much on how it works with Apex. Thank you very much!
I'll try to look into that for you.
I bought an adapter from Intergy that interconnects the two. It was $40 !
Says discount code isn't valid for this item in my cart. The energy 1500.....
If you used my link then it is automatically applied so the code wont work again. If you call them to order then you would use the code.
Did you try to enter the code Adventure manually or did it say that after you used my link and were just checking out? Thanks.
There does seem to be a problem with my link. They are working on it. Just wait a bit so you at least get the discount. Thanks. Jim
@@fullmoonadventureclub just tried again. Same thing. Would suck if the pre sale ended, and couldn't use your code
NOT WORKING FOR ME EITHER... HOW MUCH IS THE DISCOUNT FOR? IS IT WORTH CALLING?
Any update on when it will be available
Looks like October is when they are shipping them out.
How do the watt hours compare to amp hour?
It works out to about a 90 AMP hour battery. Jim
@@fullmoonadventureclub Thank you Jim. All things considered You could not build one for the price they are selling for.
What happened to the 30amp outlet? On the unit?
Darn it I meant to mention that in the video. No more 30 amp plug but they do have an adapter. Apparently the 110 volt plugs will handle the full power of the inverter so you don't necessarily need the 30 amp plug anymore. I was sad to see it go also.
fullmoonadventureclub the adapter says the outlet is only 12.5 amps. Most of us rv users who have microwaves, a wifes hair blower, wont be able to use the flex unless we only use one item at a time. Some hair blowers will exceed the outlet by itself. It would be a pain to not be able to turn on your microwave when the pump and/or furnace is running. IMO the flex does not cover RV users very well. Titan is the way to go and also be able to run your A/c for short periods of time. Inergy needs to listen to RV users, like Titan people did.
do the batteries create any fumes if you charge indoors, i know car batteries have to be ventilated when charging are these flex batteries safe? anybody
can this run gaming pc for long hours?
I am guessing your gaming PC power supply is around 600 watts. So with one battery should be able to play for around two hours. If you have 600 watts of solar connected you can play all day and then two hours into the night. If you added extra batteries your time would increase. The great thing about this setup is it that you can expand it as much as you want. You also want to keep in mind that your gaming PC is not going to use 600 watts continuously it will depend on how hard you're running the system or your computer. A lot of times they don't run at the full 600 watts so your time would probably be a lot longer than that. My best guess would be about 3 hours maybe even 4 on a single battery.
Same chemistry or LiFePO?
Do you have to buy the MPPT?
No. The main unit has one built in.
I just checked on the status of the order I placed in May 2021. I was told that they are just now filling orders for March 2020 and they have no Idea when I will get my unit. If you order this now you may not get it until 2023.
Nice ,, good vid
Hi fullmoon your discount affiliate code is the same as their price on their website
Apparently they stopped giving out all discounts temporarily. I was disappointed as well. You could wait to order it but I could not get an exact date yet. :(
Dont preorder! I know its tempting but you are not likely going to get a better deal. Just a few months after it comes out they will be giving you a free panel or something for the same price. I gave into the hype and thought they were giving me a sweet deal before to preorder...
No RV plug?...
I applaud Inergy for their innovative new system. But they still have major problems:
1. Can not draw more than 1500 watts max, no matter if you have 1 or 96 batteries.
2. Still not using MC4 or Anderson Powerpole for solar port connection
3. Limited to 400 watts solar charge per controller or 1200 if you buy a supercharger for each battery.
I own a Kodiak unit and like it so I'm not brand bashing here, but I have to say that the Titan solar generator, which I also have, is IMHO, a better real world unit. Each battery is twice the capacity of the Flex unit, it has true 3000 watts continuous output plus a 6000 watt surge capacity, and can handle 2000 watts of solar input with the built in twin MPPT controllers without having to buy any additional equipment. I do like that the Flex batteries are half the weight of the Titan units but then again they are half the capacity too.
I guess it all boils down to what you are planning to use the unit for. To me the ability to pull 3000 watts continuously with the Titan sold me on it.
Valid points. I too was wondering why you'd be able to connect 96 batteries but not have an option for a bigger inverter. However, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they don't have a 3000 watt model in the works. I think energy is really still trying to keep their system very portable and at 26.5 lb it's only a pound and a half more than the Apex so that's definitely impressive. I have not had a chance to review the Titan generator but have heard a lot of talk about it. Maybe I'll try and get my hands on one so I can review it for everybody. Glad you're liking your Kodiak. I still have my Kodiak and Apex and they're both running strong despite my abuse. I would love to see a whole house solution from energy as I enjoy their products thus far. Thanks for your comments and happy camping.. jim
Until we get the "Will Prowse" stamp of approval this system is going to be a hard sale (pre sale).
If I buy 95 more batteries from them, will they throw in a free ladder ?
Nice. Ty will check more. Ty
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I paid the down payments - have not heard from Inergy Flex sense
They are supposed to ship in February to my knowledge. I'm still waiting for a unit to review. Hopefully very soon.
This situation is bad enough with proper communication. I think you missed email, check your junk box. You should have a couple apologies, an extra year warranty and probably $100 off. I received an email just today so one should be fresh.
Not the lowest price. Your code got me a zero dollar zero cent discount. There is a military and first responder discount, so....yeah, yours is not the lowest.
Nice unit but way to expensive.
This is DUMB!!! DO NOT BUY THIS.
why ????