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@@MichaelMantion Is it wrong though? Both supply electricity but require something else to do it. Once uses gasoline, the other has to store low voltage electricity and then generates 120v to use it.
@@DevonRegan Of course not, a battery alone is like a tank of gas by itself and neither would be a generator. If you put them inside an appliance that delivers electricity they can be called a generator. Maybe gas generator or battery generator is a better name.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who said something. Although I do kind of like the product, I would definitely think about buying one or two. In fact it would be good to use in conjunction with a gas generator.
The great thing is that during an emergency outage you can charge this "generator" with your gas powered generator!😁 Would be better describes as an Electric reservoir coupled to an AC inverter.
@@hugostiglitz6914 You must mock people that own hybrid vehicles too then, where gas combustion energy is captured by batteries that run the electric hybrid engine, increasing miles per gallon. Both a gas generator and a solar generator do the same thing, take stored energy and convert it into another form. The gas generator stores energy in a gas tank, the solar generator in battery cells. There is no difference in function, just in the energy source and process of converting energy. Ok?
@@hugostiglitz6914 Dude, think. A gas generator so called converts stored energy - gas - into 120vac. A solar generator also converts stored energy - in a battery - into 120vac. A gas generator you refuel the gas tank. A solar generator you refuel the battery bank. They do the same thing, functionally really neither "generate", rather both simply convert one form of energy into another. The *way* they do this is different but *functionally* it is the same.
I was going to say the same thing. Who would carry around this heavy bulky 2 piece system camping. I can just see someone walking with this for a few minutes let alone hours to go camping. On the other hand if your "camping" in a camper then you don't need this. Get 2 batteries and 2 or more 400W panels, unlimited power instead of for 2 hours or less.
Thank you. I was just writing up a response to him calling this a generator. I’m from the power quality industry for over thirty years, and people like him, those who don’t do their homework, really get on my nerves. This is a battery bank, plain and simple. I’m sure the people who sell this, would like to call it a generator because you can hook it up to a solar cell, but that still doesn’t make it a generator. It’s like APC all over again, calling a backups or a line Interactive backups a UPS. Because of them, a lot of people have bought the wrong item, and have given the rest of us a bad name. He also should have pointed out that a heater, a resistive load, will draw on those batteries differently than that of a a power supply etc. So if you put this on a heater, be prepared to only get 15 to 20% of time it indicates.
Agree. It is really just a battery pack - although the solar charger part is a legitmate electricity generator - though would not keep up any large electric usage (like powering your house - refrig, a/c. etc). I have car batteries hooked to a power inverter that can probably out perform this but I don't know the cost difference. Having an automatic car battery charger is easy to keep the batteries at 100% you also have ability to add more batteries(in parallel) to extend the battery "pack" life. As for mobility, this would be a little easier to move around than car batteries and an inverter. What do you bet that a lot of investors initially thought it was actually a "generator" that used some new technology -- like Telsa(original person) power from the atmosphere , etc.
titles not misleading. it ask the question. Ultimate home generator? then in the title it tells you that it is the ecoflow delta/ portable backup power. read a little slower and understand what it says.
@@destinationdaddio9977 well reading and comprehension is not a requirement this way a person can make themselves sound important and intelligent however showing the opposite
This is NOT a "generator", it's a UPS. Stop calling it a generator. What do you do after your power is off for more than an hour? Obviously, not a generator.
Absolutely understand your point - but you could equally say "what do you do after your power is off for more than (say) 24 hours?". In the case of a generator, you have to go refill it. In the case of this thing, you also have to refill it. To refill, one takes gas, the other takes electricity. So perhaps not that much difference after all.
@@RobertShrimpton The difference is the generator generates electricity from gas, the power bank consumes electricity that was generated by the generator or power plant. Can't believe people still don't see this distinction.
This will work great for my wife and daughter when they go to art shows and setup sale booth. Quiet, long lasting since they will run lights and a laptop, has enough jiuce for some heavy draw equipment. I don't want gas generator fumes and noise. Wouldn't hurt to use it in the garage for my equipment if I need to be mobile
Thats a great use for it, these are very popular with musicians too that need to run some gear. Now they can be in the middle of a field, play anywhere with no noise for gas units too. I think they would love it.
@JC4crs My phone's GENERATOR seems to be broken. I don't ever recharge it, what I do is I reverse it's chemical reaction using my home's electricity. But the phone repair guy doesn't understand this and is trying to sell me a new GENERATOR.
I''m going to produce a new automobile! No engine, no sails, pollution free! Gravity. (But when it gets to the bottom of the hill, you'll need an engine.)
@@stevemorse5052 My sister had an MG and it was a blast! She spent bank to keep it going (just parts as we had three capable mechanics at the time in the family) but when you could look at the ground through the floorboards it was time to "put it down" Loved that car and it was perfect for my hardworking hard playing sister...
After reading many of the comments, it's evident that those specific people didn't take in what this video is about, or probably didn't even watch it through to the end. This would be a nice piece of equipment for camping or for emergency situations when gasoline fuel is not available. I like this!
In all honesty, you'll love this because of the incredibly fast charge. So you don't have to run your portable genny as often or run the generator to keep some lights and a fridge on.
Very true, most people don't realize that what Ecoflow did with charging speeds is literally unbelievable. Almost 2 years later, its still the fastest unit on the market.
@@johnh383 i am going to guess that if you were using this while using the solar panel, it wouldn't last very long. hence it is pretty much a glorified battery backup, and an expensive one at that.
To be fair, a "normal" UPS cannot run for a long time. A UPS is useful for short power outages, not for hours of runtime or things like off-grid solar charging. The price has to drop though.
Thank you, came to the comments to talk about how gullible people are. UPS are great, we use them in the network closet, and a whole home UPS can prevent power loss during intermittent blips.... but to compare it to a Honda generator? The uploader is a shill. And that solar panel is a joke, what are you going to charge with it, your cellphone? Certainly not that huge UPS... Christ. This is predatory preying on the stupid.
@@cptcrogge A "normal" UPS? What the hell is a normal UPS? UPS's come in various sizes, we have one at our old data center that's the size of a small room. There are also UPS's that are the size of your closed fist. A normal UPS varies in size depending on application, and this is a "normal" large for household small for commercial use UPS, nothing new, been on the market for ages.
@@BoopSnoot I sold and installed a dozen of UPS's, I'm fully aware of their functionality and purpose. The point is, a normal UPS is not made for "portable" use nor it typically runs for a long time. For example a APC 550VA UPS supports normally around 330W output. It will run with full load only 3 minutes and with a very small load (15W~) maybe 1 hour. The lead acid batteries which are typically used in a UPS are also somewhat dangerous, I'm not sure though what this "Power generator" (Yes it obviously isn't a generator) is using. Hence the device shown in the video is not a typical UPS, even if the basic functionality is identical. The device shown in the video is quite small and lightweight, considering the amount of power which it provides. Also all these USB ports and the possibility to charge it with solar panels in off-grid situation is quite useful. Just as mentioned earlier, the price is too high. You get a very good UPS for a similar price, it won't provide the same functionality out of the box though and will require some configuration (e.g. disable beep).
I look at the comments here and I crack up. This is a generator that you have to charge that is not gas. This is an awesome product. Just charge the dang thing. I do think the price is outrageous ; but this is a great product.
@@mp9932 So the solution is to call it whatever you want. That reminds me I have to stop by the store today and pick up some AA generators for my daughters toys.
The Delta does the same thing your gas generator does, your criticism is equally applied to gas generators. Both simply put convert an energy source - gas fossil fuel which is stored solar energy - or sunlight directly or electric that is produced from stored solar fossil fuels - into an electrical format you can use. The gas generator stores it's energy source in a gastank. The Delta stores it's energy in a battery cell bank. If the Delta "isn't a generator" - well neither is your gas generator!
This should be advertised as a battery bank not a generator there is a big difference not to mention plugging it in to change is a form of maintenance but with all of that said this seems like a great product that would make a good short term power backup
A generator is a generator not a battery pack that needs recharging ,there just trying say the battery is generator when there's electrical fuel in it to power the inverter kinda like putting fuel into a fuel tank on an mechanical generator unit.
@@annic7995 A generator is a device that converts mechanical power to electrical power. Usually, a generator uses chemical fuels in an engine to turn a shaft with of coils inside a magnetic field. The movement of the coils in the magnetic field induces current in the coil windings. The product described above is NOT A GENERATOR. It is just a high capacity BATTERY and needs to be re-charged periodically.
Never before you watched this video. There is a first-time for everything. Live and learn. Admit that your body GENERATES WASTE AND NOXIOUS GASSES. Did they not come from what you stored in your body? Better undertake a course applied logic. You are not good at thinking. Just place your head between your legs and wait for the next instruction Nat-Han (The correct pronunciation of your name not NAY-THAN It is an old Hebrew name, and has been bastardized by the corrupt English language.
this thing is called powerbank. a bigger one. it won't last as long as real generator. And trust me long term you'll need to do some battery cycles and it's going to be more painful than maintaining a gas ones!
I was going to comment on how amazing it is, but then I remembered I had two 6v batteries, 200w of solar and an inverter in the camper I built and the set-up cost less than what this unit does.
These are best used in conjunction with a small gas generator, especially for people in apartments. You would use the gas generator to charge the UPS during the day and use the UPS at night. That way it would save a lot of gas and even the quiet generators are to loud to use at night if you live in an apartment. This is only meant to run small loads, LED lights, charge laptop, tv, charge cell phones etc. But this UPS is still too small, you'd want something with more battery capacity. I built my own with 2 6v deep cycle batteries wired in series with a 600watt inverter and a 1500watt inverter. It will power my TV, lights, laptop, cell phone, water pump, electric blanket and more all through the night. I could put the fridge on a timer and power it also.
A normal generator won't charge this, unless it has a DC outlet. I have tried. You NEED an inverter style generator to charge this battery. Trust me, I found out the wrong way. I still have my other generator and I use it most of the time for non sensitive electronics but it will NOT charge my ecoflow. 🤷😑
@@fredmckinney3418 It is NOT a generator??? Thank you Mr. Expert Engineer ........ mentioning a shotgun is interesting ... thanks for your wonderful insight ...
Wow. It can run a tiny space heater for 51 minutes? It's incredible. So if there's a hurricane and I lose power for 3 days, I'll need to own about 150 of them.
I just found the ecoflow 1300 Delta on sale at Costco for $949, delivered. It is on sale until 1/2/22. I bought one because that seems like a great deal for a back up battery.
Great toy for a couple hours. Yea all it is is a battery and an inverter. But for serious power back up. Nothing beats a Honda 2200 generator. It’s quiet and reliable and can run 24/7 if you have extra gas. No need to plug it in to recharge. Now that reliability, especially for medical situations. And if you want to make it cleaner and last longer, convert it to LP gas. I think a barbecue type LP tank will last 8-10 hours.
You are 100% correct. IN fact I did a full review of the Honda EU2200i and love it. ruclips.net/video/hqnR7WK9UeU/видео.html - For some this is the best thing ever and others not so much. All great info though.
"Nothing beats a Honda 2200 generator" .. except a Predator 3500 .. a full 30AMP generator ... I have one and it beats the Honda all the way around and costs 1/2 what the Honda does.
@@Silent_Shadow Dear Darth "grossly unfair and morally wrong".... you are not only morally wrong (by choice of name) but also factually wrong. Good luck riding the short bus for life.
@@bkanegson - I agree with what 'Darth iniquitous' in that this device is NOT a generator but a power storage device. Even with solar as an input source (converting solar energy directly to electrical energy) it still in essence just a back-up battery. BTW, there is nothing "grossly unfair and morally wrong" about truth or facts.
@@WarHawk- " Mechanical generators: which use mechanical energy to run the generator. These are the most common generators in the industry sector and are also those that present, in relation to the others, a superior energy transformation capacity, as well as the most efficient and diversified ones. Industrial companies usually use this type of generators. Solar generators: has the function of capturing solar energy, to transform it into electrical energy, so that we can use our equipment. Solar silicon plates are an example of a solar generator. Thermal generators: are generators that transform thermal energy into electricity. Directly convert energy from heat, using it to create energy. Chemical generators: are responsible for converting chemical energy into electrical energy to power different equipment. That is, these transform the energy that is generated in the different chemical reactions into electrical energy. Examples of this type of generators are the batteries. Usually, they are used in equipment with low power consumption. For example, TV commands, radios, clocks and other equipment we use regularly in our day to day. As you can see there are several types of electric current generators that are quite different, and that can convert solar, thermal, mechanical or chemical energy into electrical energy. In this way, reusable energy is obtained that will ensure the operation of the equipment that wants to keep active." Dictionary definition of "iniquitous". Look it up.
Us IT professionals have been using battery backups for years and years. And if you want something for you home or RV, make a battery bank with marine batteries. It will be a fraction of the price with many more hours of power.
Thanks for the great review. Very cool unit. Good review. It’s a battery, of course, and not a generator. But I figure you named your video this to get generator shoppers to take a look. All the best.
Don't laugh one of the posts I read from someone who uses their small version does that at a campground. They only go to office once a week, charge it in less than an hour with enough to run what they need in their little cabin with no power.
@@SilverCymbal That is the most efficient way to power anything. Steal the electricity from someone else and it will cost $0.00 all while saving the planet. Free energy for all!
Hola me.silver cymbal... what a great review...we are considering in buying a unit like that...we live in the north Texas area and the last February 15th we experienced a bad winter weather that caused power outages in all the state of Texas we were with no electricity for one day and other people up to two days it was a disaster... I’m disabled I suffered a stroke and still recovering from it and in that situation I couldn’t do anything for my family but thank God we made it trough that is why a unit like this will be a great investment and a life saver... Thank you again for sharing this with us I was amazed with the new type of generator just keeping it fully charged but also comes with its own solar panels to recharge it ... wow 🤩 that is what I cal a victory for science and technology 😃😃😃great!!! Thank you again for the amazing review!!!
I see a lot of people who just clearly aren't understanding who these are made for or what they can be used for. These are meant for people who don't want a gas engine running on a generator, something they could keep around THE HOUSE and not the garage, these can be easily and quickly turned on if you need a little bit of energy on the go or maybe they don't want to run a gas engine and pollute the environment, these can be charged with solar panels if you so choose.
I am totally on board with solar and batteries(with additional circuitry) storing the electricity and changing it to 120 volts from 12/24 volts... but. I always try to think outside the box and still don't see a "generator". I really like where modern batteries are going. To me, the difference is a generator creates electricity and an battery stores electricity for later use. To me, a battery is what this is. A battery with some electronic circuits added into the same box. The circuits are the bells and whistles that add convenience. I love it but don't see it is "generating" electricity. It is storing and converting electricity. If this was hooked to a solar panel, the panel would be the generator which uses light as fuel. The panel would generate and send the electricity to this battery where it would be stored for later use. Everytime I see someone calling these "generators", I try to view it from their perspective but I still don't get it. Generators don't "store electricity, they produce it by physically moving "parts"? This is a storage device.
The distinction in the arguments seems to be hung up on the whole mechanical thing. The mechanical process in old style generators is needed due to the need to extract energy from carbon chains, I.e. gasoline, by using chemical conversion, I.e. combustion. Mechanical conversion is also used in driving turbines with heat or gravity in addition to the small explosions. You can also get electrons to move, I.e. be “generated” by other means, like photo electric effect. How you get 120/240V AC “generated” can be done in non-mechanical ways now, I think this is what is causing the confusion in the use of the term “generator”.
I love it! I think I will buy one. You could use it easily indoors or outdoors. I have a transfer switch like yours and an 8000W generator I bought at Lowe's. It's in a plastic outdoor storage unit I bought online & has a vent & fan so it runs quietly with the lid shut. Thanks for sharing this info! It would be great to own too.
@@Trillville43 I installed it myself and they don't sell that version any longer but they have a new one that works the same. It will take an electrician less than an hour to install it, my advice is buy the switch if you are paying someone to get someone that will only charge you hourly and it can't be more than 2 hours and really is very easy because it's prewired. amzn.to/2DDGXb8
Might need this,Electric and Gas bills keep on going on the rise,I got some thing to charge up my electric bike,Also power up my gaming computer and what ever else I need,I be happy with something like this,Be one massive bill less to worry about
Based on these numbers, depending on what it cost. A DeWalt power station may be a better option. With the added benefit of being able to change the batteries. You only get so many cycles on any battery.
both generate energy from a stored source of solar energy. fossil fuel is a form of stored solar energy thus a gas "generator" is the same thing as a battery generator. i.e. they are both generators.
@Davy Kroket maybe you should go back to school and learn where fossil fuel comes from and what is is actually. Fossil fuel is a form of stored energy that was created by the sun ..that big yellow bright thing in the sky. we dug up the fossil fuel out of the ground and then cleaved the molecules(big word i know) to "refine" that energy into usable things called calories(unit of energy). Then we convert that into things called watts.(another unit of energy). That is how we can figure out electron capacity and usage. Ok enough deep diving im getting the bends(that is from nitrogen...a gas and also an element). Basic science is this. Both are generators. Both convert a form of energy into another form of energy both store energy in a tank and both generate energy when a load is applied to the device. Technically BOTH are GENERATORS. BOTH consume and Both generate. I don't need luck I have science. Also, both fossil fuel and electrons stored in a cell are known as energy sinks (A molecule or a group in a molecule that is able easily to accept energy transferred to it from another component of the system) also known as energy storage. They are just 2 different types of storage that is all.
Satomi Tier - Another difference is that generators generate electricity immediately from another energy source, while a battery must be charged. We never call a battery a generator as it is simply a storage device for later use.
It's not a generator it's a power bank that holds power. This is a good bit of kit, but alternatives also exist to deliver exactly the same power to the consumer. Allpowers being one such brand, which I've had for a few months. Its transformed Vanlife from camping sites to regenerate to open road. I'd happily compare like for like to give an actual review.
not a generator. just a battery pack that needs a generator to charge. this could be used in conjuction with a solar cell when camping or a backup for your house when the electricity goes out. probably run some of the house hold for 24 hours.
That charge time makes a big difference. If it's hooked to solar and converting one energy source to something usable, it's a generator. If it's charged and just draining, it's a battery.
Regarding gasoline-based generators: remember, that fuel goes bad, even with stabilizers. From what I've read, gasoline cannot be polished like diesel. Propane would never go bad. The EcoFlow Delta is 1.2 kWh, fully charged. A '20 pound' LPG tank (which could be stored forever without going bad) would provide 20 kWh.
I was thinking the same thing would be ok for camping or maybe light power tool use but doesn't store enough power for emergency back up use as it didn't have enough watt hours to power that refrigerator and furnace through the night.
It's a generator if you purchase the solar panel with it. A little bit pathetic but need the sun?tough shit.. 2 hours worth of heat doesn't get you through the night. Or how fast it will charge with solar. Or the solar keep up with a heater..
Batteries don't "generate" electricity. They store electricity. My gas generator came in handy when we were without power for 5 days. While all my neighbors went to hotels I was able to keep an eye on my neighborhood for the entire 5 days. The generator ran non stop except for 5 minutes every 12 hours to be fueled. It's large enough to run everything including the air conditioner. If I lived in an area where power outages are common I would get an automatic generator that runs on natural gas. But for now, mine works great. If you can't run things in you house for hours on end, it's not worth buying.
Great idea. Not nearly enough run time for me to consider using instead of a super quite Honda or Yamaha gas ginny. Those things run 6 to 8 hours using a bit over a gallon of gas and can be refilled in seconds and capable of running another 6 to 8 hours. This thing would need to weigh over 100lbs and have a recharge time of 6 hours minimum to even get close. Nope.
In terms of essential function both gas and solar generators do the same thing. A gas generator converts gas - a high density energy source , stored in the gas tank- into 120vAC electricity. This solar generator converts less dense energy, stored in it's battery cells into 120vAC electricity. You refuel one by adding gas, the other by solar - or by wall or car battery power.
@@billykaffadrin Well you're shit out of luck in a stormy week when utility power is out. It does not generate anything. The Honda can run day or night because it can generate electricity..
kimmer6 until the gas you can’t purchase because there was a run on the gas station runs out. Or, more likely, thugs steal the unit because they can hear it from blocks away...
@@roberthealey7238 I don't need gasoline, just diesel fuel. If the thugs can carry away 1500 lbs of Onan diesel gen set on a fuel skid bolted to my shop floor, they are welcomed to it. You can't hear it from the driveway or lawn.
Pretty cool would love to see a double or triple sized unit. Outstanding that it was running the fridge and furnace. Just what you need when the power company wont keep the power on.
I apreciate the technology for what really is and what it really does. I am considering buying a few, however I do not apreciate the industry treating people like idiots. Call the thinkg for what it is and does and you'll see more sales and earn respect from your customers. Take it from a Seasoned salesman: Never lie to your client or you may get the initial sale but loose recurrent sales and the trust.
The potential for car camping is good. Imagine running some lights at night and then in the morning you run a space heater in your tent for 20 minutes can you charge the thing off of a solar panel or off of your car as you drive around during the park.
Supplying 550 watts for a couple hours from full capacity at the cost of $1300 is NOT a generator, and it certainly isn't anything close to an "ultimate home generator." To put this in perspective - this thing doesn't even have enough capacity to run a typical 150 watt laptop for half a day. Since it can charge so quickly this might have some niche use such as not having to put up with the noise of a typical generator round the clock but that's about it.
Great for medical devices and small power things for emergencies. Yes for camping it's not cheap but it depends on what you want to use. I can see this being very helpful for a tiny house or cabin for an inexpensive way to power it without buying all the typical solar things that need to be pieced together. This is not a replacement for everything for some people and some tasks that is perfect.
Yep, you're right. It's an electrical accumulator or battery pack, with build in charge controller and inverter. It's not generating anything, it's just storing electricity for later use.
Generator - Generates power This - Stores power Also, I love how he's like "it makes no noise, it has fans and they are really quiet", while there's a jet engine running in the background xD
+Daniel Kintigh When you plug solar panel in it, it can power something, while even recharge battery, if power output is still low enough. So it's partialy generator. Basicaly, it's "generator/battery" or solar generator+battery more precisely. Or I would say, "solar generator, with battery in it".
Keep in mind the main word is off-grid if you're camping no access to gasoline or natural disaster and yes the main feature is solar generated now yes it comes with that 60 watt solar panel but you can buy inexpensive 100 watt solar panels put them parallel and charge that unit up much much quicker. That's what I love about it.
Nice packaging, and not a bad price per performance. The 1300WH unit has a 48V X 27-Ah lithium battery currently selling for $1400. I can replicate this with a 48V ebike battery pack plus inverter/charger, but the slightly extra cost per performance is OK due to how integrated it is for the average consumer.
other than the amazing recharge speed, I'm not clear on how this is different from other 2000 watt power packs with solar panels. I want to love this 😊
I think you are right, its faster, lighter but you are really buying a package all put together ready to go. Don't have to do DIY for it, some people just won't
Expensive, but I like it. I'm extremely unlikely to ever use a point-of-use fossil fuel generator for any reason and Ecoflow appears to have considered various inputs. I'd like to see them offer an accessory kit for DC inputs which need a dump load without frying their product. Maybe even tubing for a masonry mass. I guess that would be solving the source issue vs portability and storage. Their next startup, perhaps.
How does she spend that much time on her phone and away from a wall or car charger? Serious question. I'm on my phone all day and I dont get low until nighttime
Its an outside UPS not a generator. You can use this with a generator by charging it in case the generator fails or to reach places you can't bring the generator.
AGREE psat jan 19 during superbowl wehad it on forfirst half 55" and mini fridge in garage worked like a charm OURS IS NOT THE ONE ON THIS TUBE BUT WORKS GREAT
@@SilverCymbal I cut the top of my exercise bike, so it is just the feet and pedals left.I welded on a DC motor from a treadmill, which happened to have the same type drive belt wheel as the drive wheel on the exercise bike, so now I have emergency power generator that is always ready for blackouts but otherwise don't take up much space. I can comfortably deliver 100W continuously for hours. With a battery pack like this, it would be possible to separate supply and demand, and run higher power devices, like power tools after a hurricane.
If you ever run a longer extension than you need, don't leave the excess in a coil!!!! The reason for that is because you're essentially making a transformer with nothing to cool it. If you must coil the excess, do it in a figure-8 so the frequencies cancel each other out. I worked a big charity auction setting up audio/video. Our crew worked 23 hours straight, but there were other crews there. I told my boss that I smelled the electrical kind of smoke. He chastised me for saying it in front of someone important. [Steven Spielberg event], but 10 minutes later, smoke started billowing out from under a temporary stage. Another crew coiled up about 100' of excess cord and it's jacket straight up melted. There you have it. Choose to believe me or not. Figure of 8 saves property and lives.
Interesting glimpse into the future. I live in the tropics (plenty of sun light all year round) and I don’t use electricity all that much (I only have an electric fan on when I sleep). Having larger battery and solar panel can probably put out enough power for me for most days. So it’s good to see what battery power can do.
This isn't a Generator, despite what they call it. It's nothing more than a giant rechargable battery pack. It doesn't "Generate" power. Power has to be generated and put into it. If your power goes out and this thing hasn't already been charged up, it's worthless.
@@harleyme3163 I and anyone who knows the actual dynamic's not Nikola Tesla's work would call you out as 100% WRONG on that one Sir. Been down that road before, the electrical Engineer that tried to disprove what he was taught to been fact, that being that any electric charge will not and cannot be held indefinite, yet Tesla proved this as a lie taught to use all, sure if the source is fried out or goes down you lose it, but isolation and repair can be down without a shutdown of the damaged portion given the main source is not to blame... you really should check out his work. This guy spent months trying to disprove what he had paid a small fortune for MIT to teach and was taught lies. Today, do they teach the same, I would not know.....REALLY hope not. But this Engineer only wanted to build devices of what history try's to label a mad man after being unable to disprove truth. The father of radio, wi-fi, x-ray tech not the x-ray, transmission of power without wires, the list goes on and on and on, ALL the most cool toys of the modern world this man gifted us the means of having the means to have and/or discover. People today are all for Tesla's ideas and accept him for the great man much more so no than say 15 years ago, and this is the time period these events took place. Do yourself a favor and do not waste months trying to disprove it, because nothing here is a lie or incorrect, a simple scan over of his work will reveal a new understanding of how long a change can be held and used for, forever is the answer by the way. And yes you can make only 120 volt spark be millions of even billions of volts/amps/watts, not joking, not trolling, this man I know like the back of my hand. For almost 3 decades he has been my hero, enlighten yourself with what I hope you and anyone who reads this shall.
Charging itself is like sucking its own c*ck! Yikes! Too bad there's energy loss during self-charging, there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.
Okay I'm not going to get into the semantics of the title, enough comments are already here for that (LOL 🤣), I do want to say it is a very informative video and for somebody like me who has never done any kind of auxiliary power use or investment but is thinking about the future, I find this video very informative in a broad spectrum of possible uses for future battery power, thank you very much I got a lot out of it and enjoyed the video! 😎👍💯
Heavily depends on these "emergencies" because if it's not over after two hours, this unit is just no good. For real emergencies, we always had a diesel or petroleum engine running or ready to be running within one minute when I was in the army. Two hours is just not long enough for a real emergency, especially if the grid breaks down or some natural disaster occurred.
I really like it! I installed the same type of system on my RV a natures generator 1800w system. I made a video like yours for my install. RUclips “atlas anchored” I charged my tesla and ran my 5000 btu ac for 15 hours in hot Texas. Good job on the video.
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@@MichaelMantion Is it wrong though? Both supply electricity but require something else to do it. Once uses gasoline, the other has to store low voltage electricity and then generates 120v to use it.
@@MichaelMantion Do you call a Tesla car a star wars toy?
@@DevonRegan Of course not, a battery alone is like a tank of gas by itself and neither would be a generator. If you put them inside an appliance that delivers electricity they can be called a generator. Maybe gas generator or battery generator is a better name.
Silver Cymbal Any idea what this will cost?
Ecomech1 is trying to get started. Cant get in front of the right people. It blows this thing away!!
It is a power-bank .. a generator generates!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who said something. Although I do kind of like the product, I would definitely think about buying one or two. In fact it would be good to use in conjunction with a gas generator.
Good point!
Yet the keep doing it. Makes you question his intelligence level.
It's a generator also because you can charge it with solar or really anything lmfao hilarious lol
@@trent8546 so solar panels are generators for it 🤣
The great thing is that during an emergency outage you can charge this "generator" with your gas powered generator!😁
Would be better describes as an Electric reservoir coupled to an AC inverter.
I would opinion that your statement lacks one word between "The" and "great" and the word is "ONLY"
@@g.r.4853 You do understand I was being sarcastic?
@@hugostiglitz6914 You must mock people that own hybrid vehicles too then, where gas combustion energy is captured by batteries that run the electric hybrid engine, increasing miles per gallon.
Both a gas generator and a solar generator do the same thing, take stored energy and convert it into another form. The gas generator stores energy in a gas tank, the solar generator in battery cells.
There is no difference in function, just in the energy source and process of converting energy.
Ok?
@@billykaffadrin You really have no clue!
@@hugostiglitz6914 Dude, think. A gas generator so called converts stored energy - gas - into 120vac. A solar generator also converts stored energy - in a battery - into 120vac.
A gas generator you refuel the gas tank. A solar generator you refuel the battery bank.
They do the same thing, functionally really neither "generate", rather both simply convert one form of energy into another. The *way* they do this is different but *functionally* it is the same.
Worked great making coffee and run lights for week out camping. Also ran mini heater fan for 20mins each morning to knock off the chill in the tent.
Come back when you understand the difference between a battery and a generator.
A 30 pound battery is just a toy. "It's running my home heating unit ... for an hour".
I was going to say the same thing.
Who would carry around this heavy bulky 2 piece system camping.
I can just see someone walking with this for a few minutes let alone hours to go camping. On the other hand if your "camping" in a camper then you don't need this. Get 2 batteries and 2 or more 400W panels, unlimited power instead of for 2 hours or less.
This guy has no idea, it can run a heating system and refrigerator but not a sump pump, what? No idea!
Thank you. I was just writing up a response to him calling this a generator. I’m from the power quality industry for over thirty years, and people like him, those who don’t do their homework, really get on my nerves.
This is a battery bank, plain and simple. I’m sure the people who sell this, would like to call it a generator because you can hook it up to a solar cell, but that still doesn’t make it a generator. It’s like APC all over again, calling a backups or a line Interactive backups a UPS. Because of them, a lot of people have bought the wrong item, and have given the rest of us a bad name.
He also should have pointed out that a heater, a resistive load, will draw on those batteries differently than that of a a power supply etc. So if you put this on a heater, be prepared to only get 15 to 20% of time it indicates.
my thoughts exactly,.
It's not a generator , It's a portable battery.
-Artsy Photos LLC-, thank you! Absolutely correct.
If it light ups the room why not
Can you connect it to a solar panel for chargering
thank you very much .... now go stand in a corner until your brain begins working .....
@JC4crs batteries absolutely store energy they store chemical energy. Go ahead Google if batteries store energy and you'll see that you are wrong.
Even though I wouldn't call it a generator, the presentation was very comprehensive and very clear. As always, nice job!
I appreciate the nice words and the professionalism of your other comment too.
@@SilverCymbal my pleasure!
Agree. It is really just a battery pack - although the solar charger part is a legitmate electricity generator - though would not keep up any large electric usage (like powering your house - refrig, a/c. etc).
I have car batteries hooked to a power inverter that can probably out perform this
but I don't know the cost difference.
Having an automatic car battery charger is easy to keep the batteries at 100% you also have ability to add more batteries(in parallel) to extend the battery "pack" life.
As for mobility, this would be a little easier to move around than car batteries and an inverter.
What do you bet that a lot of investors initially thought it was actually a "generator" that used some new technology -- like Telsa(original person) power from the atmosphere , etc.
It stores power then generates power to the refrigerator....
So, someone packaged a battery with an inverter. Congratulations.
right ! build your own !
They want $1,300 for this thing. They are out of their everloving mind.
I made one out of a 6000 watt inverter and 4 simi truck batterys.
Right ✅
Thx for heads up
It will run a heater for about 1 hr.
@@gerald4027 how portable is that?
Miss leading title. This is just a battery backup unit. NOT a Generator.
goal zero calls it a generator too, still misleading
titles not misleading. it ask the question. Ultimate home generator? then in the title it tells you that it is the ecoflow delta/ portable backup power. read a little slower and understand what it says.
@@destinationdaddio9977 well reading and comprehension is not a requirement
this way a person can make themselves sound important and intelligent however showing the opposite
Yup
@@gfinnstrom 😂😂👍
This is NOT a "generator", it's a UPS. Stop calling it a generator. What do you do after your power is off for more than an hour? Obviously, not a generator.
@@donikatod460 Still doesn't make it a generator, because it generates nothing. It needs to be charged, which makes it a battery.
Absolutely understand your point - but you could equally say "what do you do after your power is off for more than (say) 24 hours?".
In the case of a generator, you have to go refill it. In the case of this thing, you also have to refill it. To refill, one takes gas, the other takes electricity.
So perhaps not that much difference after all.
@@RobertShrimpton The difference is the generator generates electricity from gas, the power bank consumes electricity that was generated by the generator or power plant. Can't believe people still don't see this distinction.
Words are just labels. Let's focus on the function not a debate nor feuds. Horse could have been called a cow. A cow could have been called a horse.
@@benpiriz4386 Sure, but the problem is that a "generator" already means something. So you can't treat a cow as you do a horse.
This will work great for my wife and daughter when they go to art shows and setup sale booth. Quiet, long lasting since they will run lights and a laptop, has enough jiuce for some heavy draw equipment. I don't want gas generator fumes and noise. Wouldn't hurt to use it in the garage for my equipment if I need to be mobile
Thats a great use for it, these are very popular with musicians too that need to run some gear. Now they can be in the middle of a field, play anywhere with no noise for gas units too. I think they would love it.
Referring to this device as a "Generator" seems to be kind of misleading. What I believe it should be referred to as is a "Portable Power Bank."
I understand it lasts 12 month only and than you need to buy a new one ???? or am I wrong
@JC4crs My phone's GENERATOR seems to be broken. I don't ever recharge it, what I do is I reverse it's chemical reaction using my home's electricity. But the phone repair guy doesn't understand this and is trying to sell me a new GENERATOR.
@@exit281 I believe he was saying that the charge will last 12 months, once it's fully charged.
@@jim.h as long as you don't connect it to a load...
Reality: its a battery connected to an inverter. Useful at times, but it's no generator.
@@exit281 You're probably not wrong, the thing is a piece of junk. It also doesn't help a products case when it is being falsely advertised.
I need a generator to charge my "generator"
Obviously you need two of these, one to charge the other when the other is dead!😏
I want something that would continually power a frig or freezer at least
I''m going to produce a new automobile! No engine, no sails, pollution free! Gravity. (But when it gets to the bottom of the hill, you'll need an engine.)
To late mate, the English invented those in the '50's I had several! Mind you, they stayed at the bottom of the hill.
Steve Brocato : Someone already made one, I had one when I was young, I called it my little red wagon.
@@stevemorse5052 My sister had an MG and it was a blast! She spent bank to keep it going (just parts as we had three capable mechanics at the time in the family) but when you could look at the ground through the floorboards it was time to "put it down" Loved that car and it was perfect for my hardworking hard playing sister...
SIGN ME UP!!!! YABADABADOOOO
@@douglasw9163 Yeah, and people don't label "little red wagons" as automobiles lol. This guy in the video is delusional
After reading many of the comments, it's evident that those specific people didn't take in what this video is about, or probably didn't even watch it through to the end. This would be a nice piece of equipment for camping or for emergency situations when gasoline fuel is not available. I like this!
Thank you very much you get it exactly! Thanks
@@SilverCymbal Then why did you start out so disoriented? Looking for clickbait?
I love how hes like "it makes no noise" while he is recording the jet engine fan sounds coming out of it haha
Lmao I was like how high is this guy?
It damn sure isn't loud as some of them LOL
It's deltas MD-88s crying
I heard this one is noisy
@Yryr Yryr I ended up buying it. It's not that noisy at all.
"It makes no noise" he says over the sound of the fans running.
What?
Because they were so loud. And we all know how silent a gas generator is.
In all honesty, you'll love this because of the incredibly fast charge.
So you don't have to run your portable genny as often or run the generator to keep some lights and a fridge on.
Very true, most people don't realize that what Ecoflow did with charging speeds is literally unbelievable. Almost 2 years later, its still the fastest unit on the market.
It still generates nothing
If you're still confused, it does not "generate" electricity. It stores electricity.
ACtually the unit as a whole generates electricity from the sun via the solar panels so technically it does generate electricity.
@@johnh383 i am going to guess that if you were using this while using the solar panel, it wouldn't last very long. hence it is pretty much a glorified battery backup, and an expensive one at that.
solar panels generate electricity.
@@johnh383 as i said, if you tried to use this while it's charging through solar power, it would be dead super fast.
@@johnh383 It does NOT generate anything, the power is coming from elsewhere.
So, this is meant for people who can not tell the difference between a generator and UPS.
To be fair, a "normal" UPS cannot run for a long time. A UPS is useful for short power outages, not for hours of runtime or things like off-grid solar charging. The price has to drop though.
Thank you, came to the comments to talk about how gullible people are. UPS are great, we use them in the network closet, and a whole home UPS can prevent power loss during intermittent blips.... but to compare it to a Honda generator? The uploader is a shill. And that solar panel is a joke, what are you going to charge with it, your cellphone? Certainly not that huge UPS... Christ. This is predatory preying on the stupid.
@@cptcrogge A "normal" UPS? What the hell is a normal UPS? UPS's come in various sizes, we have one at our old data center that's the size of a small room. There are also UPS's that are the size of your closed fist. A normal UPS varies in size depending on application, and this is a "normal" large for household small for commercial use UPS, nothing new, been on the market for ages.
@@BoopSnoot I sold and installed a dozen of UPS's, I'm fully aware of their functionality and purpose.
The point is, a normal UPS is not made for "portable" use nor it typically runs for a long time.
For example a APC 550VA UPS supports normally around 330W output. It will run with full load only 3 minutes and with a very small load (15W~) maybe 1 hour.
The lead acid batteries which are typically used in a UPS are also somewhat dangerous, I'm not sure though what this "Power generator" (Yes it obviously isn't a generator) is using.
Hence the device shown in the video is not a typical UPS, even if the basic functionality is identical. The device shown in the video is quite small and lightweight, considering the amount of power which it provides.
Also all these USB ports and the possibility to charge it with solar panels in off-grid situation is quite useful.
Just as mentioned earlier, the price is too high. You get a very good UPS for a similar price, it won't provide the same functionality out of the box though and will require some configuration (e.g. disable beep).
Thank you!
I look at the comments here and I crack up. This is a generator that you have to charge that is not gas. This is an awesome product. Just charge the dang thing. I do think the price is outrageous ; but this is a great product.
This is a great energy generator for truckers over the road who need to run a hot plate or a microwave.
That is pretty cool, if you have a generator to keep it charged.
Good come back...... lol
Why do you keep calling this a generator? It's a battery.
@@mp9932 So the solution is to call it whatever you want. That reminds me I have to stop by the store today and pick up some AA generators for my daughters toys.
Because he's an idiot
@@VictorSilva-rq4kz , thanks for reminding me. I have to get some button generators for my car remote fob.
The Delta does the same thing your gas generator does, your criticism is equally applied to gas generators. Both simply put convert an energy source - gas fossil fuel which is stored solar energy - or sunlight directly or electric that is produced from stored solar fossil fuels - into an electrical format you can use. The gas generator stores it's energy source in a gastank. The Delta stores it's energy in a battery cell bank.
If the Delta "isn't a generator" - well neither is your gas generator!
It doesn't generate anything. It's storage.
This should be advertised as a battery bank not a generator there is a big difference not to mention plugging it in to change is a form of maintenance but with all of that said this seems like a great product that would make a good short term power backup
There is not way that they are marketing this as a generator, this is only a “battery backup system”.
A generator is a generator not a battery pack that needs recharging ,there just trying say the battery is generator when there's electrical fuel in it to power the inverter kinda like putting fuel into a fuel tank on an mechanical generator unit.
So, what is a generator and what is its purpose? A diktionary answer, please, not yours. 😐
I came here to say the same thing. Until I saw it comes with solar panels.
@@annic7995 A generator is a device that converts mechanical power to electrical power. Usually, a generator uses chemical fuels in an engine to turn a shaft with of coils inside a magnetic field. The movement of the coils in the magnetic field induces current in the coil windings. The product described above is NOT A GENERATOR. It is just a high capacity BATTERY and needs to be re-charged periodically.
Yea if I got gererator from Amazon and opened box and all I got was a battery pack with and inverter on the side of it I would be pissed.
It recharges with solar panels, so... It generates energy.
Never seen a generator that needed charged.
Well, in a way filling a tank with gas or diesel is also charging up the unit. Without INPUT, there is NO OUTPUT! Simple!
Never seen a generator that does not need to be charged.
I never seen a generator that charged without gas.
Never before you watched this video.
There is a first-time for everything.
Live and learn.
Admit that your body GENERATES WASTE AND NOXIOUS GASSES.
Did they not come from what you stored in your body?
Better undertake a course applied logic.
You are not good at thinking.
Just place your head between your legs and wait for the next instruction Nat-Han (The correct pronunciation of your name not NAY-THAN It is an old Hebrew name, and has been bastardized by the corrupt English language.
this thing is called powerbank. a bigger one. it won't last as long as real generator. And trust me long term you'll need to do some battery cycles and it's going to be more painful than maintaining a gas ones!
I was going to comment on how amazing it is, but then I remembered I had two 6v batteries, 200w of solar and an inverter in the camper I built and the set-up cost less than what this unit does.
These are best used in conjunction with a small gas generator, especially for people in apartments. You would use the gas generator to charge the UPS during the day and use the UPS at night. That way it would save a lot of gas and even the quiet generators are to loud to use at night if you live in an apartment. This is only meant to run small loads, LED lights, charge laptop, tv, charge cell phones etc. But this UPS is still too small, you'd want something with more battery capacity. I built my own with 2 6v deep cycle batteries wired in series with a 600watt inverter and a 1500watt inverter. It will power my TV, lights, laptop, cell phone, water pump, electric blanket and more all through the night. I could put the fridge on a timer and power it also.
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A normal generator won't charge this, unless it has a DC outlet. I have tried. You NEED an inverter style generator to charge this battery. Trust me, I found out the wrong way. I still have my other generator and I use it most of the time for non sensitive electronics but it will NOT charge my ecoflow. 🤷😑
I think it should be called "a power bank", not a generator.
@@fredmckinney3418 It is NOT a generator??? Thank you Mr. Expert Engineer ........ mentioning a shotgun is interesting ... thanks for your wonderful insight ...
So during a power cut you get fifty minutes of heating. Then after that you freeze.
Why if it generates Power ?
Wow. It can run a tiny space heater for 51 minutes? It's incredible. So if there's a hurricane and I lose power for 3 days, I'll need to own about 150 of them.
This is one of the best, it takes much less time to recharge than most generators.
I just found the ecoflow 1300 Delta on sale at Costco for $949, delivered. It is on sale until 1/2/22. I bought one because that seems like a great deal for a back up battery.
Great toy for a couple hours. Yea all it is is a battery and an inverter. But for serious power back up. Nothing beats a Honda 2200 generator. It’s quiet and reliable and can run 24/7 if you have extra gas. No need to plug it in to recharge. Now that reliability, especially for medical situations. And if you want to make it cleaner and last longer, convert it to LP gas. I think a barbecue type LP tank will last 8-10 hours.
You are 100% correct. IN fact I did a full review of the Honda EU2200i and love it. ruclips.net/video/hqnR7WK9UeU/видео.html - For some this is the best thing ever and others not so much. All great info though.
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"Nothing beats a Honda 2200 generator" .. except a Predator 3500 .. a full 30AMP generator ... I have one and it beats the Honda all the way around and costs 1/2 what the Honda does.
Love my Honda eu3000is too. Still need solar eventually. Gas generators will be the back up backup backup lol
it's silly to call this a generator
This is a battery not a generator.
6:20 in the video, if you watched..... Add solar panels, 120v power using the sun. That is a generator.
@@bkanegson no it's not. It's just a battery that can recharge a couple different ways.
@@Silent_Shadow Dear Darth "grossly unfair and morally wrong".... you are not only morally wrong (by choice of name) but also factually wrong. Good luck riding the short bus for life.
@@bkanegson - I agree with what 'Darth iniquitous' in that this device is NOT a generator but a power storage device. Even with solar as an input source (converting solar energy directly to electrical energy) it still in essence just a back-up battery. BTW, there is nothing "grossly unfair and morally wrong" about truth or facts.
@@WarHawk- "
Mechanical generators: which use mechanical energy to run the generator. These are the most common generators in the industry sector and are also those that present, in relation to the others, a superior energy transformation capacity, as well as the most efficient and diversified ones. Industrial companies usually use this type of generators.
Solar generators: has the function of capturing solar energy, to transform it into electrical energy, so that we can use our equipment. Solar silicon plates are an example of a solar generator.
Thermal generators: are generators that transform thermal energy into electricity. Directly convert energy from heat, using it to create energy.
Chemical generators: are responsible for converting chemical energy into electrical energy to power different equipment. That is, these transform the energy that is generated in the different chemical reactions into electrical energy. Examples of this type of generators are the batteries. Usually, they are used in equipment with low power consumption. For example, TV commands, radios, clocks and other equipment we use regularly in our day to day.
As you can see there are several types of electric current generators that are quite different, and that can convert solar, thermal, mechanical or chemical energy into electrical energy. In this way, reusable energy is obtained that will ensure the operation of the equipment that wants to keep active."
Dictionary definition of "iniquitous". Look it up.
Us IT professionals have been using battery backups for years and years. And if you want something for you home or RV, make a battery bank with marine batteries. It will be a fraction of the price with many more hours of power.
Do you have links instructions on how to do this?
Thanks for the great review. Very cool unit. Good review. It’s a battery, of course, and not a generator. But I figure you named your video this to get generator shoppers to take a look. All the best.
Rediculous, it won't last. Probably the people that provided the start up money all voted for Biden. 😂
I charge mine with my gas generator.
I charge my with another one. But when that runs outta juice. I just charge it with another one. Very efficient
Don't laugh one of the posts I read from someone who uses their small version does that at a campground. They only go to office once a week, charge it in less than an hour with enough to run what they need in their little cabin with no power.
@@SilverCymbal That is the most efficient way to power anything. Steal the electricity from someone else and it will cost $0.00 all while saving the planet. Free energy for all!
@@GoZipper I don't promote any crimes or theft, they had permission to plug in but I am sure they appreciate the free power
@@SilverCymbal Have you looked at the ecomech1 yet?
That's cool , I've just bought a UPS running in gas
Hola me.silver cymbal... what a great review...we are considering in buying a unit like that...we live in the north Texas area and the last February 15th we experienced a bad winter weather that caused power outages in all the state of Texas we were with no electricity for one day and other people up to two days it was a disaster... I’m disabled I suffered a stroke and still recovering from it and in that situation I couldn’t do anything for my family but thank God we made it trough that is why a unit like this will be a great investment and a life saver... Thank you again for sharing this with us I was amazed with the new type of generator just keeping it fully charged but also comes with its own solar panels to recharge it ... wow 🤩 that is what I cal a victory for science and technology 😃😃😃great!!! Thank you again for the amazing review!!!
I see a lot of people who just clearly aren't understanding who these are made for or what they can be used for. These are meant for people who don't want a gas engine running on a generator, something they could keep around THE HOUSE and not the garage, these can be easily and quickly turned on if you need a little bit of energy on the go or maybe they don't want to run a gas engine and pollute the environment, these can be charged with solar panels if you so choose.
I am totally on board with solar and batteries(with additional circuitry) storing the electricity and changing it to 120 volts from 12/24 volts... but. I always try to think outside the box and still don't see a "generator". I really like where modern batteries are going. To me, the difference is a generator creates electricity and an battery stores electricity for later use. To me, a battery is what this is. A battery with some electronic circuits added into the same box. The circuits are the bells and whistles that add convenience. I love it but don't see it is "generating" electricity. It is storing and converting electricity. If this was hooked to a solar panel, the panel would be the generator which uses light as fuel. The panel would generate and send the electricity to this battery where it would be stored for later use. Everytime I see someone calling these "generators", I try to view it from their perspective but I still don't get it. Generators don't "store electricity, they produce it by physically moving "parts"? This is a storage device.
The distinction in the arguments seems to be hung up on the whole mechanical thing.
The mechanical process in old style generators is needed due to the need to extract energy from carbon chains, I.e. gasoline, by using chemical conversion, I.e. combustion. Mechanical conversion is also used in driving turbines with heat or gravity in addition to the small explosions.
You can also get electrons to move, I.e. be “generated” by other means, like photo electric effect.
How you get 120/240V AC “generated” can be done in non-mechanical ways now, I think this is what is causing the confusion in the use of the term “generator”.
I love it! I think I will buy one. You could use it easily indoors or outdoors. I have a transfer switch like yours and an 8000W generator I bought at Lowe's. It's in a plastic outdoor storage unit I bought online & has a vent & fan so it runs quietly with the lid shut. Thanks for sharing this info! It would be great to own too.
Thank you very much
Could you run an electric chainsaw with it?
@@cherylskates Definitely most of those are well under 1800watts of power needed
How much did it cost to get the transfer switch installed and which generator do you have?
@@Trillville43 I installed it myself and they don't sell that version any longer but they have a new one that works the same. It will take an electrician less than an hour to install it, my advice is buy the switch if you are paying someone to get someone that will only charge you hourly and it can't be more than 2 hours and really is very easy because it's prewired. amzn.to/2DDGXb8
Might need this,Electric and Gas bills keep on going on the rise,I got some thing to charge up my electric bike,Also power up my gaming computer and what ever else I need,I be happy with something like this,Be one massive bill less to worry about
My cellphone screen changes too when doing different stuff. Must be smart too!
Based on these numbers, depending on what it cost. A DeWalt power station may be a better option. With the added benefit of being able to change the batteries. You only get so many cycles on any battery.
It's a damn UPS. They have been around forever.
both generate energy from a stored source of solar energy. fossil fuel is a form of stored solar energy thus a gas "generator" is the same thing as a battery generator. i.e. they are both generators.
@Davy Kroket a gas generator consumes too...oh i forgot they have those perpetually full fuel tank gas generators now...UH MY BAD LMAO!!!!!
@Davy Kroket maybe you should go back to school and learn where fossil fuel comes from and what is is actually. Fossil fuel is a form of stored energy that was created by the sun ..that big yellow bright thing in the sky. we dug up the fossil fuel out of the ground and then cleaved the molecules(big word i know) to "refine" that energy into usable things called calories(unit of energy). Then we convert that into things called watts.(another unit of energy). That is how we can figure out electron capacity and usage. Ok enough deep diving im getting the bends(that is from nitrogen...a gas and also an element). Basic science is this. Both are generators. Both convert a form of energy into another form of energy both store energy in a tank and both generate energy when a load is applied to the device. Technically BOTH are GENERATORS. BOTH consume and Both generate. I don't need luck I have science. Also, both fossil fuel and electrons stored in a cell are known as energy sinks (A molecule or a group in a molecule that is able easily to accept energy transferred to it from another component of the system) also known as energy storage. They are just 2 different types of storage that is all.
Satomi Tier - Another difference is that generators generate electricity immediately from another energy source, while a battery must be charged. We never call a battery a generator as it is simply a storage device for later use.
@Davy Kroket One thing we've deduced implicitly is that you're no English teacher, anyhow.
It's not a generator it's a power bank that holds power. This is a good bit of kit, but alternatives also exist to deliver exactly the same power to the consumer. Allpowers being one such brand, which I've had for a few months. Its transformed Vanlife from camping sites to regenerate to open road. I'd happily compare like for like to give an actual review.
not a generator. just a battery pack that needs a generator to charge. this could be used in conjuction with a solar cell when camping or a backup for your house when the electricity goes out. probably run some of the house hold for 24 hours.
That charge time makes a big difference. If it's hooked to solar and converting one energy source to something usable, it's a generator. If it's charged and just draining, it's a battery.
This is a rechargeable battery
Great for California residents when they do rolling blackouts. If I lived in an apartment or condo, this would be great
Crap its not rolling blackouts. They don't want to be sued for fires they started. So shut the power off during high winds.
No it's not a multi fuel genny is cidit..
Regarding gasoline-based generators: remember, that fuel goes bad, even with stabilizers. From what I've read, gasoline cannot be polished like diesel. Propane would never go bad.
The EcoFlow Delta is 1.2 kWh, fully charged. A '20 pound' LPG tank (which could be stored forever without going bad) would provide 20 kWh.
I built my own solar generator for half the cost. And bought a 12 gallon gas tank for my Honda. It will last almost continuously for 5 days.
This looks like a glorified UPS that's been reworked for a little different purpose.
Exactly
I was thinking the same thing would be ok for camping or maybe light power tool use but doesn't store enough power for emergency back up use as it didn't have enough watt hours to power that refrigerator and furnace through the night.
It's a generator if you purchase the solar panel with it. A little bit pathetic but need the sun?tough shit.. 2 hours worth of heat doesn't get you through the night. Or how fast it will charge with solar. Or the solar keep up with a heater..
yep.. clickbaity title.. this is not a generator at all. It's a UPS
that's ok, it works that's the key!
Batteries don't "generate" electricity. They store electricity. My gas generator came in handy when we were without power for 5 days. While all my neighbors went to hotels I was able to keep an eye on my neighborhood for the entire 5 days. The generator ran non stop except for 5 minutes every 12 hours to be fueled. It's large enough to run everything including the air conditioner. If I lived in an area where power outages are common I would get an automatic generator that runs on natural gas. But for now, mine works great. If you can't run things in you house for hours on end, it's not worth buying.
I agree
Great idea. Not nearly enough run time for me to consider using instead of a super quite Honda or Yamaha gas ginny. Those things run 6 to 8 hours using a bit over a gallon of gas and can be refilled in seconds and capable of running another 6 to 8 hours. This thing would need to weigh over 100lbs and have a recharge time of 6 hours minimum to even get close. Nope.
In what chaotic world is a battery the same thing as a generator.
A Generator Produces Electricity, this Unit Stores Electricity and Discharges when it is plugged in to carry a load...
In terms of essential function both gas and solar generators do the same thing.
A gas generator converts gas - a high density energy source , stored in the gas tank- into 120vAC electricity. This solar generator converts less dense energy, stored in it's battery cells into 120vAC electricity. You refuel one by adding gas, the other by solar - or by wall or car battery power.
@@billykaffadrin Well you're shit out of luck in a stormy week when utility power is out. It does not generate anything. The Honda can run day or night because it can generate electricity..
kimmer6 until the gas you can’t purchase because there was a run on the gas station runs out. Or, more likely, thugs steal the unit because they can hear it from blocks away...
@@roberthealey7238 I don't need gasoline, just diesel fuel. If the thugs can carry away
1500 lbs of Onan diesel gen set on a fuel skid bolted to my shop floor, they are welcomed to it. You can't hear it from the driveway or lawn.
Pretty cool would love to see a double or triple sized unit. Outstanding that it was running the fridge and furnace. Just what you need when the power company wont keep the power on.
I apreciate the technology for what really is and what it really does. I am considering buying a few, however I do not apreciate the industry treating people like idiots. Call the thinkg for what it is and does and you'll see more sales and earn respect from your customers. Take it from a Seasoned salesman: Never lie to your client or you may get the initial sale but loose recurrent sales and the trust.
I came for the product,
And stayed for the accent.
It's amazing. The capability of charging with panels's cool.
Very handy and versatile
Fully recharges in 4 hours with 400 watts of solar panels, and it has a built in MPPT controller too. 1.7 hours from 120Vac.
The potential for car camping is good. Imagine running some lights at night and then in the morning you run a space heater in your tent for 20 minutes can you charge the thing off of a solar panel or off of your car as you drive around during the park.
Perfect application for this, you have the right idea.
....or.....you can plug into an inverter attached to your vehicle.....for less cost
Supplying 550 watts for a couple hours from full capacity at the cost of $1300 is NOT a generator, and it certainly isn't anything close to an "ultimate home generator." To put this in perspective - this thing doesn't even have enough capacity to run a typical 150 watt laptop for half a day. Since it can charge so quickly this might have some niche use such as not having to put up with the noise of a typical generator round the clock but that's about it.
Your presentations are excellent. You're always 👍 Thumbs Up.
Expensive toy for campers. Poor replacement for a generator in emergency situations. It's a small battery bank.
Great for medical devices and small power things for emergencies. Yes for camping it's not cheap but it depends on what you want to use. I can see this being very helpful for a tiny house or cabin for an inexpensive way to power it without buying all the typical solar things that need to be pieced together. This is not a replacement for everything for some people and some tasks that is perfect.
@@SilverCymbal I must have missed it, how much will it be selling for?
He’s shown you at least 2 other great generators. I never thought about using it in an apartment but it’s a great idea.
Yep, you're right. It's an electrical accumulator or battery pack, with build in charge controller and inverter. It's not generating anything, it's just storing electricity for later use.
@@runepedersenDK You're right, wrong application to use the term "generator"
Generator - Generates power
This - Stores power
Also, I love how he's like "it makes no noise, it has fans and they are really quiet", while there's a jet engine running in the background xD
+Daniel Kintigh When you plug solar panel in it, it can power something, while even recharge battery, if power output is still low enough. So it's partialy generator. Basicaly, it's "generator/battery" or solar generator+battery more precisely. Or I would say, "solar generator, with battery in it".
Nothing else to do except talk shit about something you must not no to much about LOL
I didn’t know that a battery storage unit could be called a generator ? I like this unit.
Keep in mind the main word is off-grid if you're camping no access to gasoline or natural disaster and yes the main feature is solar generated now yes it comes with that 60 watt solar panel but you can buy inexpensive 100 watt solar panels put them parallel and charge that unit up much much quicker. That's what I love about it.
Nice packaging, and not a bad price per performance. The 1300WH unit has a 48V X 27-Ah lithium battery currently selling for $1400. I can replicate this with a 48V ebike battery pack plus inverter/charger, but the slightly extra cost per performance is OK due to how integrated it is for the average consumer.
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You could of fooled me, good thing I read all the comments, thank you guys ♥️
Good on you for paying attention!
You could charge it with your gas gen or solar in the day. Then use the ecoflow around the house.
It'd come in handy for long term power outages.
other than the amazing recharge speed, I'm not clear on how this is different from other 2000 watt power packs with solar panels. I want to love this 😊
I think you are right, its faster, lighter but you are really buying a package all put together ready to go. Don't have to do DIY for it, some people just won't
I am day 3 with no power after Isaias. This is a doorstop.
Not if you have solar panels
Expensive, but I like it. I'm extremely unlikely to ever use a point-of-use fossil fuel generator for any reason and Ecoflow appears to have considered various inputs. I'd like to see them offer an accessory kit for DC inputs which need a dump load without frying their product. Maybe even tubing for a masonry mass. I guess that would be solving the source issue vs portability and storage. Their next startup, perhaps.
hold power for a year!....when you broke out the solar panel i was sold..
i'm travel nurse who RVs.
Wifes been complaining her powerbanks don't last a full day. Guess what I'm giving her for X-mas.
Why does she not just simply plug it into the mains?
@@johnnyseagull29 - and get out of bed and walk over to a plug? You're asking too much!
Better to get extra long USB charging cables.
How does she spend that much time on her phone and away from a wall or car charger? Serious question. I'm on my phone all day and I dont get low until nighttime
Chris Conley like me, she probably has an apple 🙄
A.......GENERATOR!!
So, I have been looking for batteries the wrong way!
Next time at CVS: "I'm looking for AA generators" 😂
Or when you buy a generator, just ask for a gas tank since in both cases that's only a component of the device.
@@SilverCymbal ... that battery will be the equivalent of a gas tank 👍🏻
@@albertomartin70 Lmao. Also @Silver Cymbal you are a charlatan.
Generator any day! It can run all day while this battery pack has long run out of charge!
Its an outside UPS not a generator. You can use this with a generator by charging it in case the generator fails or to reach places you can't bring the generator.
This would be good for people who live in apartments where generator is not possible or practical.
Exactly and for campers it could be helpful too
Fun & Games Good point.
AGREE psat jan 19 during superbowl wehad it on forfirst half 55" and mini fridge in garage worked like a charm OURS IS NOT THE ONE ON THIS TUBE BUT WORKS GREAT
@@SilverCymbal I cut the top of my exercise bike, so it is just the feet and pedals left.I welded on a DC motor from a treadmill, which happened to have the same type drive belt wheel as the drive wheel on the exercise bike, so now I have emergency power generator that is always ready for blackouts but otherwise don't take up much space. I can comfortably deliver 100W continuously for hours. With a battery pack like this, it would be possible to separate supply and demand, and run higher power devices, like power tools after a hurricane.
If you ever run a longer extension than you need, don't leave the excess in a coil!!!!
The reason for that is because you're essentially making a transformer with nothing to cool it. If you must coil the excess, do it in a figure-8 so the frequencies cancel each other out.
I worked a big charity auction setting up audio/video. Our crew worked 23 hours straight, but there were other crews there. I told my boss that I smelled the electrical kind of smoke. He chastised me for saying it in front of someone important. [Steven Spielberg event], but 10 minutes later, smoke started billowing out from under a temporary stage. Another crew coiled up about 100' of excess cord and it's jacket straight up melted.
There you have it. Choose to believe me or not. Figure of 8 saves property and lives.
Well I did not know that that's amazing
I knew not to coil up the cord, did not know the figure 8 configuration...
Thanks...
Nice little band aid it’s not bad can’t do anything too big but it’s great for odds and ends looks handy
This is the solution I was looking for My cine lights of 1200W
Barely hear it running
Sounds like a vacuum cleaner
True but my microphone is about 12 inches away. When you step back you don't hear much of anything
Interesting glimpse into the future.
I live in the tropics (plenty of sun light all year round) and I don’t use electricity all that much (I only have an electric fan on when I sleep). Having larger battery and solar panel can probably put out enough power for me for most days. So it’s good to see what battery power can do.
Oh lucky u lol
Selling this as a generator in the UK would be illegal as per the trade descriptions act it has to be a generator not a power bank
Great detailed analysis!
This isn't a Generator, despite what they call it. It's nothing more than a giant rechargable battery pack. It doesn't "Generate" power. Power has to be generated and put into it. If your power goes out and this thing hasn't already been charged up, it's worthless.
It's only good for a couple of hours. Power outages where I live can be weeks. Even solar charging wouldn't work.
@Gaz Gandalf yes, exactly ... attach to Solar Panels and it IS a generator.
My UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) does the same thing except it does not have solar panel charging.
Why not just juse an inverter on your cars battery? Or better yet, just run a 100ft extension cord to your neighbors house.
You didn't watch the video, did you?
If you plug it into itself will it recharge indefinitely
I have heard it can also open up a black hole
wrong... always losses... nothing is 100% efficient... like.. a little led light taking like.0001 watt lol
@@harleyme3163 Rich T was being ironic (I think it is so evident that it was not needed explain to you)
@@harleyme3163 I and anyone who knows the actual dynamic's not Nikola Tesla's work would call you out as 100% WRONG on that one Sir. Been down that road before, the electrical Engineer that tried to disprove what he was taught to been fact, that being that any electric charge will not and cannot be held indefinite, yet Tesla proved this as a lie taught to use all, sure if the source is fried out or goes down you lose it, but isolation and repair can be down without a shutdown of the damaged portion given the main source is not to blame... you really should check out his work. This guy spent months trying to disprove what he had paid a small fortune for MIT to teach and was taught lies. Today, do they teach the same, I would not know.....REALLY hope not. But this Engineer only wanted to build devices of what history try's to label a mad man after being unable to disprove truth. The father of radio, wi-fi, x-ray tech not the x-ray, transmission of power without wires, the list goes on and on and on, ALL the most cool toys of the modern world this man gifted us the means of having the means to have and/or discover. People today are all for Tesla's ideas and accept him for the great man much more so no than say 15 years ago, and this is the time period these events took place. Do yourself a favor and do not waste months trying to disprove it, because nothing here is a lie or incorrect, a simple scan over of his work will reveal a new understanding of how long a change can be held and used for, forever is the answer by the way. And yes you can make only 120 volt spark be millions of even billions of volts/amps/watts, not joking, not trolling, this man I know like the back of my hand. For almost 3 decades he has been my hero, enlighten yourself with what I hope you and anyone who reads this shall.
Charging itself is like sucking its own c*ck! Yikes! Too bad there's energy loss during self-charging, there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.
Okay I'm not going to get into the semantics of the title, enough comments are already here for that (LOL 🤣), I do want to say it is a very informative video and for somebody like me who has never done any kind of auxiliary power use or investment but is thinking about the future, I find this video very informative in a broad spectrum of possible uses for future battery power, thank you very much I got a lot out of it and enjoyed the video! 😎👍💯
you sound like a simpleton!
This should be called a Honey Badger Generator, bc the manufacturer doesn't give a shit that it's not a Generator.
This unit would be perfect for Amateur radio operators that respond during emergency communitacions situations.
Heavily depends on these "emergencies" because if it's not over after two hours, this unit is just no good. For real emergencies, we always had a diesel or petroleum engine running or ready to be running within one minute when I was in the army. Two hours is just not long enough for a real emergency, especially if the grid breaks down or some natural disaster occurred.
I really like it! I installed the same type of system on my RV a natures generator 1800w system. I made a video like yours for my install. RUclips “atlas anchored” I charged my tesla and ran my 5000 btu ac for 15 hours in hot Texas. Good job on the video.
Buy a pack of batteries from the store. Boom, just bought little generators.
Thanks! Lots of good info for someone new to this kind of product! So glad I stumbled across your channel!