The Local Band - Guitar battle: Alexi Laiho vs. Archie Cruz - Tavastia 27.12.2013 HD

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • The Local Band:
    Guitar: Alexi Laiho / Children Of Bodom,
    Vocals: Olli Herman / Reckless Love,
    Drums: Jussi69 / The 69 Eyes,
    Bass: Arttu Kuosmanen / Santa Cruz
    Setlist:
    01. Shout At The Devil (MÖTLEY CRÜE)
    02. Looks That Kill (MÖTLEY CRÜE)
    03. Yankee Rose (DAVID LEE ROTH)
    04. Fallen Angel (POISON)
    05. Slave To The Grind (SKID ROW)
    06. Too Young To Fall In Love (MÖTLEY CRÜE)
    07. Round & Round (RATT)
    08. Guitar battle: Alexi Laiho vs. Arttu "Archie" Kuosmanen
    09. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love (VAN HALEN)
    10. Nothin' But A Good Time (POISON)
    11. Wanted Dead Or Alive (BON JOVI)
    12. Unskinny Bop (POISON)
    13. Panama (VAN HALEN)
    14. Nightrain (GUNS N' ROSES)
    15. Rock And Roll All Nite (KISS)
    Video camera: Sony HDR-CX115E

Комментарии • 201

  • @MikkoGibson
    @MikkoGibson  3 года назад +6

    More footage from this night: ruclips.net/video/4jByFQBfh2s/видео.html

  • @EM-zj1xm
    @EM-zj1xm 3 года назад +30

    15 years old Alexi:
    Band - Inearthed, song - Translucent image. Great example of melodic solo with some shreddy elements. To me, it's
    even tastefull than all the solos on Wintersun's first album.
    21 years old Alexi:
    Band - Synergy, song - Midnight Madness. Mind-blowing lead part with speed, pentatonic wankery, outside notes, strong melodic parts etc.
    There's no question who's a better player for me 😃

    • @yourDeath86
      @yourDeath86 2 года назад +1

      I like both Jari and Alexi. ;)

  • @ilmari93laaksonen68
    @ilmari93laaksonen68 3 года назад +83

    Alexi Laiho 1979-2020. 🖤 RIP

    • @Juango787
      @Juango787 3 года назад +1

      On this video, it was Alexi Laiho 1979-2013

  • @nncnxx
    @nncnxx 10 лет назад +142

    Arttu did very well, considering that he wasn't even born when Alexi got his first guitar :D

  • @melgibsonfan9082
    @melgibsonfan9082 2 года назад +13

    Let's cut the shit here. Alexi has written and played so many great songs that Archie could never come up with in a million years. Alexi also sounded like crap the last few years he was alive and it's debatable why that was. Archie is an incredible guitarist too that probably is a technical level above Alexi but hasn't written much that is memorable. Both are great and many many levels higher in talent as guitarists than myself and probably most of you. I'm just glad their are people like them out there giving us great music and finding new ways to please our ears.

    • @MeisterSchaft13
      @MeisterSchaft13 4 месяца назад

      Alexi had his own style. Archie only threw couple Zakk Wylde licks. No respect from here to Archie. Go Allu! RIP.

  • @mayhem1.021
    @mayhem1.021 4 года назад +24

    I used to be a hardcore Alexi fanboy for years, and I still respect his work. But be honest to yourself, Archie´s skills are on another level, musically and technically wise. In the end, it's great to see, such amazing guitarists came together, making music!

    • @monke12355
      @monke12355 4 года назад +12

      I thnk johnny (Joonas Parkkonen) is even better than archie and alexi

    • @shredd5705
      @shredd5705 4 года назад +9

      @@monke12355 Yep Parkkonen was the best musician in the band. Too bad they split, a fucking shame really. One of the few interesting Finnish bands in a long time (mainly for the guitar pyrotechnics though, don't think they had that many great songs... but it was okay too)

    • @leedemkiw6085
      @leedemkiw6085 4 года назад +6

      @@monke12355 Johnny is quite possibly the best hard rock guitarist on planet earth. He should be playing onstage, not producing for other bands.

    • @davideolivieri5033
      @davideolivieri5033 4 года назад +1

      @@shredd5705 i agree dude 🤟

    • @TheSadistNat1on
      @TheSadistNat1on 3 года назад +3

      but as an artist alexi has done what most people don't i his music, thats what really matters in the end..which is why most n others know alexi as their favorite and not cruz. idk one song i'd choose from cruz over alexi

  • @chrisguru5207
    @chrisguru5207 6 лет назад +13

    2 different styles..Both equally awesome in their own right..Apples and oranges...

  • @teemumolsa3905
    @teemumolsa3905 5 лет назад +14

    So, Archie loses the battle and is given a bass guitar. How iconic is this?

  • @kelemart
    @kelemart 10 лет назад +21

    This was probably one of the best marketing strategies Santa Cruz could have had. Smart kid :)

  • @mpbirk
    @mpbirk 8 лет назад +6

    Alexi no contest! nobody beats that guy's sequences.

  • @joeh.9223
    @joeh.9223 5 лет назад +6

    I first thought that Alexi was going to lose. But on his second turn, he kicked some ass

  • @Yotsubaru
    @Yotsubaru 2 года назад +7

    REST IN PIECE ALEKSI🖤🤘🏻🎸🔥

  • @Zaktheguitarist
    @Zaktheguitarist 8 лет назад +33

    Playing really fast is cool n all but id prefer a guitar solo that had some melody to it. Thats the real trick, being able to improvise a melodic solo. Alexi may be able to shred really fast but Archie sounded a tiny bit more melodic. Id say Archie wins.

    • @TheSadistNat1on
      @TheSadistNat1on 4 года назад +24

      its funny tho, cuz i'd say alexi's compositions are THE most melodic shit ever ha. but right here, ya sure

    • @kallehamalainen6981
      @kallehamalainen6981 3 года назад

      Pretty much no melodic input in either of those. But Archie has groove and should have been the guitarist in this band. Wrong band for Alexi who played too straight for classic rock n roll.

  • @konakoffee5553
    @konakoffee5553 3 года назад +4

    Arttu DEFINITELY has that sensei George Lynch feel and tone in his squeals ❤️🤘

  • @NegativeMass85
    @NegativeMass85 3 года назад +2

    My heart is still broken. RIP Allu :-(

  • @mrsiddy
    @mrsiddy 3 года назад +6

    Much love, Sorry you left us. COBHC forever.x

  • @viikatemies9240
    @viikatemies9240 3 года назад +11

    RIP ALEXI "WILDCHILD" LAIHO 🤘🏻😪

  • @chanchanchodang8625
    @chanchanchodang8625 7 лет назад +29

    In this video archie might be better for some of you, but for me I'll go with Alexi... And in the long run, Alexi Laiho is on another level

    • @TheSadistNat1on
      @TheSadistNat1on 3 года назад +2

      @literal no one. whose not? ...but DEF alexi is a better artist..which is why he is giant in the realest sense of it.

    • @rajgopinoth4241
      @rajgopinoth4241 3 года назад

      They are both good. I will say that the LP has better tone but isn't as good for what Bodom did

  • @motothumper5598
    @motothumper5598 2 года назад +2

    Made props for playing like that on a LP.

  • @maroteakualmawi2719
    @maroteakualmawi2719 3 года назад +38

    Alexi's playing has a soul

  • @nomifirdaus8887
    @nomifirdaus8887 4 года назад +7

    Alexi is another level..by the way..both are great guitaris...

    • @mikkiswa3144
      @mikkiswa3144 4 года назад

      But i think arttu plays faster and more melodic

    • @TheSadistNat1on
      @TheSadistNat1on 3 года назад +1

      @@mikkiswa3144 yap and faster means nothing as far as music and artistry goes, which is why, cruz isn't close to being anywhere that alexi is, jus sayn the fact right

    • @mikkiswa3144
      @mikkiswa3144 3 года назад +1

      @@TheSadistNat1on yeah speed isnt everything

    • @TheSadistNat1on
      @TheSadistNat1on 3 года назад +3

      @@mikkiswa3144 neope. and alexi actually did used to be pretty damn fast too back in the day before he really hurt himself. love him. favorite artist even amongst all the crazy tech goodness today

    • @foxns7
      @foxns7 3 года назад

      @@TheSadistNat1on shut up. I play faster than both. I do. I really do. And melodic too. I think i'm the finest guitarist ever lived in this era. I'm even better than Yngwie, Batio, Impelitteri, Laiho, Petrucci, Joe Stump, Guthrie Govan, Becker, Rusty Cooley, Jeff Loomis all combined. To avoid the limelight, interviews, media, guitar magazines, producers and shit, i think i won't post any videos of mine to support my statement but yeah i'm way too good for all this. I don't even know what to do with myself and my godlike skills..

  • @jeroen0011
    @jeroen0011 3 года назад +9

    R.i.p. Alexi \M/

  • @Thrasher5251
    @Thrasher5251 10 лет назад +51

    Both fucking great but Alexi is the better guitarist just listen to albums like Follow the Reaper or Hate Crew Deathroll or Hatebreeder

    • @m3m3sis
      @m3m3sis 7 лет назад +3

      Better songwriter, yes.

  • @nein4893
    @nein4893 7 лет назад +124

    Johnny from Santa Cruz is even better than Archie

    • @ayeapprove
      @ayeapprove 3 года назад

      He was yeah

    • @DaniTheDead
      @DaniTheDead 3 года назад

      @@ayeapprove And still is

    • @sixbitsnigerino
      @sixbitsnigerino 3 года назад +4

      Agree, More class but Archie is fucking fast.

    • @alessandro9740
      @alessandro9740 3 года назад

      i prefer johnny too, but archie is a beast tho

  • @TheNewAgeGamer97
    @TheNewAgeGamer97 6 лет назад +9

    How does Finnland pump out so many shredders?

  • @ToastedCigar
    @ToastedCigar 9 лет назад +58

    Archie is fast but he is playing the same, very basic scale over and over again. This one goes for Alexi.

    • @isMike999
      @isMike999 6 лет назад

      ahhh...I think Archie sounded better....pick attack and hand strength was killer.....Alexi has the whammy....still BOTH smoke

  • @Krrrimmi
    @Krrrimmi 3 года назад +3

    Looks more like Alexi vs. Zakk Wylde.
    We will always miss you Alexi. \m/🎸

  • @PowerVoltaire
    @PowerVoltaire 9 лет назад +8

    And one more thing Arttu is picking a simple blues scale!!! That is not as hard as the scale Alexi is using!!! but I don't know much about Arttu but I know that Alexi solos are influenced by real classical music like Bach, Vivaldi and Mozart and I think that Arttu plays 80'ies Glam Metal? so who's the best?

    • @PowerVoltaire
      @PowerVoltaire 9 лет назад +1

      Mötley Crüe Yeah Motley Crue are not about emotions! But Alexi use emotions when he plays his solos!

    • @daenku32
      @daenku32 8 лет назад

      +Hehu Hehu SPEED=EMOTION

    • @kickassrockguitar
      @kickassrockguitar 4 года назад +1

      I've got no dog in the fight but you demonstrate your lack of guitar knowledge when you say picking a blues scale is simple and not as hard as the scale Alexei uses. For a start, picking a mainly 2 note per string scale at speed us harder than a 3 note per string scale. Secondly Archie doesn't simply play the blues scale. Thirdly all 3 note per string scales are pretty much as easy as each other. Stop making excuses for your favourite player.

    • @firebrand9578
      @firebrand9578 3 года назад

      I remember how hard it was for me to play the blues scale fast when I was starting out. It was harder than a three note per string scale like major or harmonic minor because you can’t economy pick so you basically either have to alternate pick in which case you need a well coordinated right hand, or play the thing legato in which case you need strong hammer-ons and pull-offs. Just because one scale has two fewer notes than another, doesn’t make it easier to play.

  • @cellphonemusiciansmusicmad3644
    @cellphonemusiciansmusicmad3644 3 года назад +1

    Bad ass guitar playing. 🎸

  • @PowerVoltaire
    @PowerVoltaire 9 лет назад +27

    Alexi's first solo was weak but the second one kicked Arttu right in the groins and yeah you talk about picking technique...maybe Arttu is a little bit better but that's not the hardest of solos, if you notice how fast Alexi plays his sweeps and string skipping abilities....Alexi is far better than this kid!!!! and Im talking about learning Alexis solos on guitar.....MAN THAT'S HARD!!!

    • @monke12355
      @monke12355 3 года назад

      try to learn a santa cruz solo! you can't HAHA, it's impossible

  • @MikkoGibson
    @MikkoGibson  9 лет назад +2

    The Local Band full concert at Tavastia 14.8.2015: ruclips.net/video/OwE7CTh-3OA/видео.html

  • @iseearainbowrising2423
    @iseearainbowrising2423 9 лет назад +28

    They ' re both fine players, but Alexi is better.

  • @temuzero
    @temuzero 4 года назад +2

    Alexi wins because he can write music that sounds cool

  • @vs4571
    @vs4571 2 года назад +1

    So is he battling the bass player who happens to grab a guitar?

  • @Lippa100
    @Lippa100 10 лет назад +11

    both are fucking amazing but alexi relys wayt oo much to his whammy tricks and tappinf :I

    • @ElioRigonat
      @ElioRigonat 10 лет назад

      So what if he does? It's all guitar technique and showing off...

    • @Lippa100
      @Lippa100 10 лет назад

      ***** thats exactly what i meant, it does look and sound good but requires close to non skill at all :I

    • @ElioRigonat
      @ElioRigonat 10 лет назад +1

      Lippa100 It does require skill to do good dive bombs like that :P When it comes to tapping - it's a technique u once learn you can master quite easily. It can all sound very awesome man

    • @dannylowry6884
      @dannylowry6884 10 лет назад

      It doesn't matter how hard it is as long as it sounds good.

  • @joebodom1833
    @joebodom1833 4 года назад +4

    You can't compare the god Alexi with humans ... its just not fair 😌

    • @brianshamaya7405
      @brianshamaya7405 3 года назад +2

      Best comment 🔥

    • @joebodom1833
      @joebodom1833 3 года назад

      @@brianshamaya7405 thanks mate And gods dont die 😢😢😢💔

    • @brianshamaya7405
      @brianshamaya7405 3 года назад +2

      For me He's not dead. He's just resting 🤘

    • @joebodom1833
      @joebodom1833 3 года назад

      @literal no one. i don't know are ur parent donkeys cz im sure ur head are terashbag

  • @christianeidsmoe4772
    @christianeidsmoe4772 8 лет назад +10

    Alexi got blown away!

  • @napalmjayhee
    @napalmjayhee 10 лет назад +31

    you actually can see that alexi´s picking technique is far away to be able to play as fast as arttu :D just a fact, cause i love alexi´s stuff more but if you talk about the technique this guy smokes alexi

    • @2paktolife
      @2paktolife 10 лет назад +8

      they're only pentatonic scales played fast and some tapping shit..Alexi it's technically better, he uses Sweep tapping, he has only one Humbucker which makes it harder to play clean..

    • @napalmjayhee
      @napalmjayhee 10 лет назад +1

      samwhisperer you clearly have not been playing guitar long enough to know this shit, go check out how to pick properly and so one videos so you can see already from the angle of alexi´s hand how its already making it hard to play fast and clean in that way, just the biology of a human and physics of picking. also sweeping and tapping are easy as fuck to play fast and clean

    • @2paktolife
      @2paktolife 10 лет назад +2

      *****
      i've been playing guitar enough to say that, tapping and sweeping it's 10 times easy with 2 humbuckers, and playing that fast it's not impressive as a great constructed solo like alexi does.

    • @napalmjayhee
      @napalmjayhee 10 лет назад +3

      samwhisperer then you should see that alexi´s songs and solos have sounded the same since cob´s first records and cant do anything new? ok probably he can but just dont want to and it is his style and his music and some solos are fucking awesome but if you play those solos you will know this, if you are not musical enough to hear it :)

    • @2paktolife
      @2paktolife 10 лет назад +1

      you've right, the scales and the sweep patterns are always the same, but it's cool how he construct his solos! they're always cool to listen and even to play

  • @glassprisonFIN
    @glassprisonFIN 9 лет назад +43

    The other dude in Santa Cruz is better

    • @Snostrebla1
      @Snostrebla1 6 лет назад +2

      glassprisonFIN Johnny Cruz is bad ass. Love that dude and he can shred for days!!!

    • @monke12355
      @monke12355 5 лет назад +2

      Johnny?!

  • @MichaelHolmgaard
    @MichaelHolmgaard 6 лет назад +5

    15 years ago, Alexi would've shredded Archie to pieces.... but lately, Alexi has kinda lost the will to practice I guess, and therefor his technique has fallen deep. Archie wins these days ;)

    • @TheAspiringFitnessGuru
      @TheAspiringFitnessGuru 4 года назад

      He did also injure his shoulder awhile back, I'm sure that still affects his playing. He's also a bit older.

    • @an_38kitkashyap
      @an_38kitkashyap 4 года назад

      Both are monsters. But that guy from Santa Cruz, he's just on another level.

  • @Vixinaful
    @Vixinaful 8 лет назад +1

    Good LORD! Come hither, rocker boy!

  • @Three3Nill
    @Three3Nill 9 лет назад +11

    you cant fuckin beat alexi laiho

  • @joelopez7459
    @joelopez7459 2 года назад

    I never even knew about this band

  • @MrVepe47
    @MrVepe47 7 лет назад +60

    Alexi can do better than that....

    • @monke12355
      @monke12355 4 года назад +5

      Archie can do better than that too

  • @BillyMurg
    @BillyMurg 9 лет назад +18

    You're all just fruitcakes who are impressed with dive bombs and not playing ability, arttu's technique and what he actually plays is far far far better than alexi not to mention more melodic as well. Peace.

    • @Remco96187
      @Remco96187 8 лет назад

      +billymurgatroyd95 Finally someone who understands it! Cheers!

  • @thomizzskate
    @thomizzskate 8 лет назад +6

    alexi is god

  • @razorsharpness4
    @razorsharpness4 3 года назад +1

    What is the song they started playing just before the end?

    • @MikkoGibson
      @MikkoGibson  3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/S8OwKINBGOA/видео.html

    • @jjtop
      @jjtop 3 года назад

      Sounded like Van Halen ’aint talking about love’

  • @danfarmington9877
    @danfarmington9877 9 лет назад +12

    Alexi is so much better!!!!!!!

  • @jillalexiestrada6034
    @jillalexiestrada6034 3 года назад

    I remember...

  • @Megadeth69
    @Megadeth69 2 месяца назад

    Alexi won again ❤ Rock in peace legend

  • @brotherfiretribe9566
    @brotherfiretribe9566 3 года назад +2

    Archie only did some Paul Gilbert lesson exercises

  • @PinkRabbit910
    @PinkRabbit910 3 года назад

    RIP Alexi Laiho RIP Santa Cruz

  • @joehitz5613
    @joehitz5613 3 года назад +1

    Rip Alexi

  • @janiluhtanen3957
    @janiluhtanen3957 3 года назад

    Nyt on kova.

  • @kkiller81
    @kkiller81 7 лет назад +7

    Alexi is amazing but I like what Archie played more.

  • @lilynorthover8378
    @lilynorthover8378 3 года назад +2

    They weren't fingers, they were tentacles. 😔

  • @uncleLes90
    @uncleLes90 10 лет назад +27

    He smokes Alexi :D

  • @bedttrude585
    @bedttrude585 6 лет назад +3

    Archie

  • @kenromine
    @kenromine 3 года назад

    The winner

  • @dark5hadow
    @dark5hadow 9 лет назад

    what the name of the song in the end of the vid?

    • @U.P.up.
      @U.P.up. 9 лет назад

      dark5hadow Sounds like 'Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love' by Van Halen.

    • @jannejankala9419
      @jannejankala9419 8 лет назад

      +dark5hadow Don't bother googling the van halen, that is definitely cannibal corpse

  • @dianvirgiawan9251
    @dianvirgiawan9251 4 года назад

    You rock..🤘🤘🤘

  • @fatkraken3140
    @fatkraken3140 4 года назад

    Lmao no comparison at all Aleksi improvisation is almost new good solo and has the coolest guitar flying ever

  • @donprater6944
    @donprater6944 6 лет назад

    I'd say their both bad asses.

  • @Single_player29
    @Single_player29 3 года назад

    RIP ALEXI LAIHO

  • @RiffPlayer
    @RiffPlayer 4 года назад +1

    Archie wins. Hands down better player.

  • @goldengamesshow6487
    @goldengamesshow6487 9 лет назад +1

    Alexis won this fucking battle.

  • @stevehunt914
    @stevehunt914 3 года назад

    Ft. Buff Studdington on drums.

  • @damnox9091
    @damnox9091 8 лет назад +8

    archie win

  • @mikeimmonen6619
    @mikeimmonen6619 5 лет назад +2

    No one else is going to say this so fuck it I will: Alexi from 15-20 years ago would have destroyed Archie but not anymore.

  • @johnnybgood774
    @johnnybgood774 4 года назад

    Seen him before

  • @elBanananas
    @elBanananas 8 лет назад +2

    lol alexi all day

  • @gatsubasako2565
    @gatsubasako2565 5 лет назад +3

    rip laiho

  • @McBubbleslvl900
    @McBubbleslvl900 7 лет назад +1

    They both seem great but the things they do here seem dull

  • @koffrekka1605
    @koffrekka1605 5 лет назад +4

    alexi has weird picking technique lol, archie owns this 1

  • @nicolassosolic5928
    @nicolassosolic5928 3 года назад

    2013??? This is so 1987 lol RIP Rock'n'roll

  • @primalaihoheafyblythe1120
    @primalaihoheafyblythe1120 5 лет назад +5

    Laiho is Better..... Everybody thats know \m/

  • @Holalospulus
    @Holalospulus 10 лет назад +1

    tää olis pitänyt nähdä livenä :(

  • @shelleyloya6703
    @shelleyloya6703 4 года назад

    Alexi......all the way

  • @Icedsymphony7
    @Icedsymphony7 4 года назад

    Alexi dosent stand against archie not saying alexi is bad but if its a shred battle has killed it

  • @kaloqngetov3612
    @kaloqngetov3612 9 лет назад

    ALEXI FUCKING RULES !!!!

  • @niko4831
    @niko4831 3 года назад

    アレキシのリフ創りの才能って尋常なものじゃなかった
    本当に音楽の歴史にとって彼の死は大きな損失だ。。。

  • @YanaVankis
    @YanaVankis 4 года назад

    🤘👍💋🔥🔥

  • @sentenza5098
    @sentenza5098 3 года назад

    Seems like Alexi was holding back and wanted the kid to look good. Very cool thing to do.

  • @royluna431
    @royluna431 6 лет назад +3

    Archie is much better....speed/technique/ and feeling

  • @MrMethadrine
    @MrMethadrine 3 года назад

    Alexi needs a 3/4 guitar

  • @kittymom2
    @kittymom2 7 лет назад +3

    Not saying Archie isn't good but his stuff sounds like the same old regurgitated neo classical that you can find just about anywhere on YT now. Nothing spectacular

  • @Juango787
    @Juango787 3 года назад

    Why he had to do Alexi like that?😂

  • @mpbirk
    @mpbirk 2 года назад

    Alexi by a landslide R.I.P 😐

  • @MikkoGibson
    @MikkoGibson  10 лет назад

    The Local Band Comeback! instagram.com/p/oA0xRbitzc/

  • @user-uj1tr3hz4q
    @user-uj1tr3hz4q 3 года назад

    Alexi RIPho

  • @luzzluzz6211
    @luzzluzz6211 4 года назад

    Alexiiiiii

  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet 3 года назад

    Alexi>Archie. \m/

  • @Miguel-ih4yv
    @Miguel-ih4yv 6 лет назад

    Johnny >>>

  • @user-iv2os5dp4s
    @user-iv2os5dp4s 15 дней назад

    Blond guy played better.
    I love Alexi btw

  • @Tihi45
    @Tihi45 6 лет назад

    Bulshit.. se Damjan Pejcinoski, Muris Varajic. guitar player..and sound-stil.. ruclips.net/video/GALsQRi24hw/видео.html

  • @riikkamariaannunen7900
    @riikkamariaannunen7900 6 лет назад +4

    Alexi for sure .that young dude is nothing..

  • @lolalita9604
    @lolalita9604 7 лет назад +4

    Arttu is better then Laiho!

  • @Marcelo-1996
    @Marcelo-1996 4 года назад

    I appreciate the fact when a guitarist is more melodic. I got bored when I see someone shredding and doing fast solos, no emotion, no passion.

    • @monke12355
      @monke12355 4 года назад

      You can shred with emotion and passion dumb ass

  • @MathiGuitar19
    @MathiGuitar19 7 лет назад

    Todos sabemos que lo aplasta Alexi

  • @isMike999
    @isMike999 5 лет назад

    IMO I think Archie smoked him