What Happens When a FIGHTER PILOT TRIES to HOVER? (It's not pretty!)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I didn't want to take away from Stephanie's amazing story and video, but she did let me TRY to hover. So, what happens when a fighter pilot with no helicopter training TRIES to hover an OH-58 for the FIRST time? It's ugly! 😂
Special thanks to Stephanie and the amazing men and women of the Harrison County Sheriff's Office for allowing me to fly with them and tell their stories. They have an amazing department and a GREAT aviation unit!
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Wow the graphics in DCS are looking better all the time
Lmao
Don't worry, with the settings required for VR it still looks like Flight Simulator 4.0
👍👍👍
@@nyandyn But it FEELS real. Flying the Huey in DCS was an eye opener. WAY more respect for the difficulty of flying heli's 100000 times harder than I expected.
@@PepperPete11 I have both the DCS Huey and the DCS Blackshark, I love them both but the Huey is a beast to tame, but once you do, you can pretty much fly anything else at that point. I still do the "Huey Walk" a bit when I take off but I am getting better at controlling it in the transition.
I took an F-15 pilot for his first flight in a helicopter and when I slightly nosed over for takeoff, I thought he was going to jump out 😂
Lol.
I was on a black hawk going to another fob with company I had never been with. Basically hitching a ride.
I was pinned to the bottom of me seat and I smiled ear to ear for about 1.5 seconds. Then he nosed it over and all I could see was tarmac. That smile went away really quick.
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Helicopters - the only aircraft in the world that put the nose down to take off and power up to land! ;-)
Man I want to fly a heli so bad, I fly in simulators, but it just makes me want to fly one even more. but I aint got $10,000 for flight school 😂
@karim lavji the school i looked at had it listed for 10k im sure there are way more expensive schools out there
I’ve taught many fixed wing pilots transitioning into helicopters. Surprisingly, they do very well because they already have what I call “air sense”. I had no air sense or control touch on day one of helicopter flight and I couldn’t keep the aircraft in a football field. He had control touch developed from his fighter days and proved it. I would have loved to see him set it down on that field of grass. An OH 58 two blade is touchy and seems to want to creep around rather than a steady flight hover. Kudos to those that have had the experience and the pilot that put it on that tow pad.
You Sir, are a real Aviator! Most people couldn't just jump into an unfamiliar aircraft and do that well.
The best hovering was Stephanie's hands near the stick before she got comfortable with his control. Great effort
lol yeah I noticed that I suspect if things start to go bad she new she would have seconds to grab it and get it back under control, that might be a career ender, My jaw dropped when she plopped it down on that postage stamp that lady is an awesome pilot.
He's doing great.
Like my 80-year-old instructor taught me..
You're not stirring soup, little inputs
Hey Mover, show me another fighter pilot who can hover a rotary when he's thrown in the deep end with only 1 previous, as well as that... You did great 👌
And as for Stephanie? Who says girls can't park? 😜👍👍💋
Yes but she has all 3 planes to get it done lol
Dude - you did a really great job. Many years ago, I was a crew chief on UH-1N Hueys while serving in the USMC. The pilots used to teach us how to fly so that if he/she became incapacitated, we had at least a chance to survive a flight back to base. After dozens of attempts, we were going to die anyhow if I couldn't do an 80 knot slide-on in the grass because hovering wasn't an option - I sucked at it. Secondly, I flew in the back a lot when the pilot had one of his jet jockey bros attempt hovering. None did as well as you. Not one. The worst day of my life was letting one try landing on the helicopter carrier I was stationed on deployed in the Med. The skid marks are still probably etched in that deck. Well done - you got skills.
I spent an hour one day hovering an R22. It was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life, and I had a pounding headache afterward. I think you did great!
If you didn't strike the tail boom with the rotor blade, you probably did all right ...
@@checkyoursix5623 lmao well, you're not wrong!
Helicopters, the only anti-grav machines we'll see in our lifetimes. The pilot backing the heli up rocked.
2k+ hours in ah64/ah1. for your second time on the sticks you did great. you were almost at an oge hover but still, great job. now for some 180 auto's
I'll never forget how stiff I was first time on a Cessna, I had cramps from trying to correct every movement.
Had the pleasure of flying a KC-135 crew back to their home base for a maintenance requirement in my old Huey. Well, big fixed wing guys are funny when you stuff them in the back of the Huey flying thru the Boston TCA low level. What a first flight for that crew. When we left Pease AFB for the trip back, YUP, the old Hueys engine went bang at 800 feet. I can still hear the silence from the back, a 270 degree auto with turn to a ladys back yard....OMG....they will never forget that first flight. Oh, not a scratch on the Huey, well, maybe but for the shrapnel holes in the tail rotor pylon! I felt pretty bad for them, as an IP with thousands of hours, it was just another auto....heh heh. A really good one when we needed it.
I watched the video on Stephanie.. She's amazing.
Man! That lady Pilot is shocked as I am 🤔🤣, just look at her face at the end of the video. She’s like 🤔🤔 how did this guy kept it from rocking 🤔🤔. Too Bloody Cool. 👍
He did a right fine job at the hover only using the cyclic, the hover is quite a different thing to hold when you have the collective and torque pedals to deal with.
I had all three
If I had an instructor like her, she would have my undivided attention. I would be her best student!
She says “ Crash “ to much! lol Great video
Your hover was NOT ugly. You did unbelievably well considering how difficult it is to master.
Seems like he’s doing a pretty good job imo
I miss flying so badly. UH-60 and UH-1 pilot here.
What's you age? Lots of Rotary to Fixed wind opportunities- there is even a new AA new hire that got his fixed wing certs but that's it- AA counted his heli time! All the best!
I've flown a couple times in a huey with fighter pilots in the copilot seat doing dusty landings and shooting rockets and it's mildly terrifying until the HAC takes the controls back lol. For a crew chief just watching it go down up front it's not cool
Nicely done, Mover! Very nicely done! Kudos to ya.
I have a PPL. I have had a go in a little Robinson R22 jelly on a stick job and found the hover to be very stable but was totally lost when we went up to circuit height with no near objects to formate on . Previous fixed wing experience seems to make it harder, no feel to the stick and alien approach positioning. Nothing for this guy to be embarrassed about though .
Mover....for what it's worth....I couldn't even hover in MS Flight Simulator. Ever. So....FINALLY, something you can't do. Because had you been successful at that....in addition to a F-18 and F-16 stick, Heavy, and cop....well, that's alot of "catch up" pressure for the rest of us. And it's bad enough as it is.
No guts, no glory; you have plenty of each. Kudos brother.
From this video I started to watch Your channel. I am only glider pilot in real life but I like PC combat simulators. Great stuff. Greetings from Poland!
Nice one! I found the concentration when first hovering felt like lifting mental weights, it's intense, and after a few mins part of me yearned to hand control back to the instructor just to get a rest, only to want it back again a moment later of course :-). My impression was stick and rudder practice, in my case having just learnt to fly fixed wing (tailwheel), may help one pick it up a little quicker...
You’re flying out of Gulfport! I hear the Texan traffic on the radios. I flew out of there often in Primary.
Not bad for a Jet boy! And She was great too! Great attitude
Nice job...way better than my first time trying to hover as a student!
Good job man! Loking at the title I expected a lot worse, you really feel it!
Actually not a bad hover for the second time. I used to fly Rescue 5, the EMS helicopter, which is parked next door from the sheriff’s hanger at the Million Air FBO. Now I fly a MEDEVAC Hawker 800 globally transferring patients around the world. I started my career flying law enforcement in Florida also flying the OH-58 and MD500 (OH-6).
If thats your first hover you did FANTISATIC !!
They're also in ground effect which makes it a lot harder to stay stable especially in a collective pitch helicopter
Hahaha permission to buzz the tower ,, permission denied the pattern is full ,,, famous line ,, just love to hear that from a jet fighter pilot... awesome
Way better than I can do in MSFSX!
mate you did amazing for the first time... well done Sir!
Helicopter is like riding a bike. That switch goes off in your brain and you can hover. The question is how long it takes ;-) I didn't hear her tell you to look at something in the distance. I wish my instructor had hammered that point into me better than he did.
Did you have to turn on the heater in the cockpit? Because of the amount of cool in there?
I was waiting for the aileron roll 😄
Now you have to let her have the controls in the Vette! Giggity!
Awesome
A great follow up to your ride-along. So. Did the challenge hook you? Is there a little urge deep down to master and control the kinetics of a rotary-wing aircraft? Enquiring minds want to know...
this guy is living the dream!
Weirdest flight I've ever had as a Marine Huey crew chief was an Army CWO3 exchange pilot signing and a Harrier pilot as Co-P for a good deal ride. Dude wasn't the worst coming from AV-8s but he definitely almost CFIT'd us a few times. He definitely flew better than I do but I'm just a dumb enlisted guy who keeps pilots from killing themselves with my voice lol.
I thought he did well...well done bro👍👍
Honestly, it looks easier than it must be. I can imagine there is a lot of hand-eye, foot-eye, hand-foot coordination going on. Its easy on playstation at least!
He was doing alright. Different sensitivities for flyingca helicopter
So pretty, so proud!!!😘
Great job.
Any link for that man sunglasses? I think it's Oakley.
You did pretty good for first time!!
I just wish many happy returns... =))
Where is the cameraman that's on the ground? Starting at 1:38? Why cant I find him when showing view from inside the bird? Am I blind?
She got a nice vibe
Stephanie was great. You did not do too bad, you were over controlling a little bit.
Awesome《☆》The only chopper easier to fly is a UH-1 Huey🤓🎱🔊☮✌👍🏾
Genia !!
Hes MOVER, not HOVER. Makes perfect sense.
Good job
Awesome 👍
She is beautiful.
There’s a helicopter pilot school in Provo Uah near the Provo Aitooty and they had a really cool co traction thst is extrinstl a full hellha cables attacks so it cannot rotate 94 crash, they did demo rations Ewing to crash i it and nick isn’t get hit to. The toehold. E a grea was tk ekst!
Now you need to her flying in your ride 😎
Impressive!
No worse than an Army Crewchief on a Maintenance Test Flight......if that actually happens. ;)
That's $500 per flight hour.
First time I flew a helicopter instructor said I wasn’t allowed to hold the controls with more than my thumb and pointer finger, still have to say the R22 is a bitch to fly, thing is a squirrel on cocaine I swear, definitely would love to take something of size for a spin though and feel the difference but I don’t have 2k an hour to blow on the old Astar
I thought he did pretty good. Better than me!
Sheriff and helo pilot ? I like her...!
Yeah, I wouldn't say "ugly"; maybe not pretty, but not ugly.
TRIES to hover? Looks like you did just fine to me
fake title! you did extremely well!
I'd say you did quite well.
Man that lady was one heck of a pilot.
she's like that Dropship pilot in Alien 2
"were in the pipe *5 by 5"*
She is a friggin' badass!
@@thedude4795 Ferro!
she's badass..
@@thedude4795 yeah true, similar accent and looks.
She’s not wearing a ring Mover, you should come back sometime
what is ring mover sir? i don't fly i don't know
@@erizsharper he meant she isn't wearing a wedding ring. Mover is C.W's pilot name
I noticed that too
Probably just to prevent FOD.
Maverick say what♡♡♡
0/10 not enough tower buzzing
XXX£I
and not enough inverted negative g's either.
It has been over 30 years ago but when I first started flying helis I was heavy handed. Then one day one of the older guys who flew the box the heli came in handed me a dinner plate and a marble. Made me sit it on my lap and move the plate until the marble stayed centered. This simple exercise helped me more nailing the hover than any other.
Thats some deep knowledge!
Sometimes all you need is someone showing you a different way to solve a problem for it to make perfect sense.
I had an IP open a can of Diet Pepsi and put it in my crotch and say "don't spill".
Do you have any tips for becoming a helicopter pilot I plan on being one within the next few years
Was this plate in your lap while you were flying, or on the ground?
I think I need a visual reference.
Helicopter pilot: “We’re not gone crash”.
Mover: “Hold my beer”.
Did not look ugly at all to me. What were they looking for, him to shave a guy on the ground with a razor taped to the front of the skid?
Maybe
In my flight lessons, my flight instructor had me moving a traffic cone around with the landing skid. Knocking the cone over, picking it up, moving it to a specific location, and righting it, making sure it was in the exact correct position. That was pretty precision heavy for only having about 6 or 7 hours at the time.
For only your second time doing it, you did extremely well C.W. I compare helicopter pilots to drummers. They have both feet moving, both hands moving, and can concentrate on all four at the same time. All in a machine that wants to do things you don't want it to do. You both impress me with your nerve and skill.
Fixed-wing does the same, but just in a different manner. On an aircraft, those corrections that he was doing would be minute and great, but on the helicopter, it is too much. He did do very well for a 1st time, though.
@@Galf506 True! I'm a drummer. In fact, I started playing when I was 7 and I'm 63 years old now. I have an electronic drum, ("E-Kit") in my home now that I use as a 'cardio exercise machine', (powerful headphone keeps from disturbing the neighbors when they're home).
Anyway, I've flown a Cessna 172 when my dad flew but just a few times. I've been a flight-sim hobbyist since 2010 and over a period of time, poured a lot of $$$$ into it to bring it as close as a home simulator can get.
That, and I had to learn how to build my own 'super-PC' just so I can run those 3rd-party addons and maintain a 32 frame rate whenever I'm flying low and fast over dense cities. The one thing I found was that I really liked helicopters and I tended to relate to them quickly.
Then about 3 years ago, I was the only passenger in a helicopter tour. I was on a photo shoot over the Garden of the Gods. The chopper was a Bell 206B, which I happened to have a lot of familiarity with. The pilot and I talked about helicopters and flight-sims and then went into the photo shoot topic.
Turns out that he was just starting into photography (about a year earlier), and liked the Nikon D4S I was shooting. He said he always wanted to try one out and the next thing I knew, he was asking me if he could try out my camera while I flew the helicopter for a few minutes!
LOL, He didn't have to ask me twice! He told me that he had no doubt that I could land the helicopter but of course, he couldn't allow that. He said he wasn't just trying to be 'polite' and that if I hadn't told him that I've never had a lesson in my life, he would have thought I was a licensed pilot!
I don't know if he really meant it but I know that I had no trouble holding her in a hover while he took shots of those granite formations. I turned and pivoted smoothly and looking back, if I hadn't unloaded all my money in flight simulation, I could have paid for helicopter lessons and got my license twice over! LOL
FWIW,
Rich
@@Galf506 Yes, but it's almost always due to pilot error. If they put a common, GA helicopter into a steep dive while gaining a high amount of speed and then pull the stick back too quickly, they'll lose all their lift.
The air won't flow under and/or over the 'rotor disk' and just like a plane that loses the air flow across their wings and control surfaces, there's no gliding, just falling. The plane scenario is a 'stall' but if the plane has enough altitude, the pilot has a chance to get the nose down.
Then with the proper AOA achieved, it will permit him to regain lift and control by carefully (and slowly), pulling back on the stick (or yoke, as the case may be). If he panics because his remaining altitude is dangerously low, and pulls back too quickly, the plane will stall again.
The AOA is critical to planes and helicopters. The stall scenario for the plane is the same for a helicopter but I forget the term used for a helicopter that has no lift due to an incorrect AOA.
It's the same for a helicopter and a GA helicopter won't be able to handle maneuvers that a UH-1 or Black Hawk can. The older brother of a friend of mine can back from Vietnam back in 1970. He was a helicopter pilot in the war and when he got his discharge, he hooked up with an air-shuttle service about a month later.
From what his brother told me, the guy was a great med-vac pilot and got a number of awards and metals of bravery. Even so, he crashed a helicopter 2 weeks after getting a job with the air-shuttle service and was killed.
He was alone in the helicopter and eyewitnesses said he was demonstrating (showing off), some sharp 'flying tricks' that he learned when he flew a Huey. They said that he was flying fast and level and then did a quick pivot and the nose of the copter pointed almost straight down as it came to a stop.
Apparently he did that several times but the last time he did, they said it was the most extreme. He was only 200 feet up when he did that 'quick spin & stop nose-stand', (I'm sure there's a proper name for it).
Then the helicopter went straight down without any sign of the pilot attempting to pull the nose up. They said that the copter almost appeared to fly straight down into the ground deliberately. My friend said his brother wasn't suicidal and they had planned to take a flight together, scheduled on the day after that crash.
I have no doubt that he over stepped the max AOA of that helicopter, (I don't know what model or make the copter was). The UH-1 was highly maneuverable but it was supposed to be. Most GA helicopters can't perform the way a military copter can but that's not a surprise.
I think his brother simply forgot that he wasn't in the UH-1 and performed a maneuver that he probably did 1000 times before when he was in the Army. However, that day, he wasn't in the right kind of helicopter for it.
FWIW
Helos are so cool. I would love to try flying one.
Yeah. I did peddle turns my first hover in a Huey. Not neat but I kept it on the taxiway. I knew right then that I was a "Natural". I went to LA and got in an R-22 for my first lesson. It was between 0.5 and 0.9 sec before the CFI grabbed the controls. "Natural" my ass. I still have trouble with initial hover in an R-22 and I have time in two different 254# mosquitos, Safari, Bell 47, and now a turbine powered Rotorway looking ship.
What I notice is with most heli instructors when in a first hover with a student they cover the controls, but when you hovered here after a minute she moved her hands away from the controls so she actually was confident in your hover.
For a second time that’s amazing
I used to fly Jet Rangers and Hughes 500C and for only your second try, you really did great.
I guess he's a pilot after all
I retired from flying my R22 because my wife didn’t like the idea of my kids going up for rides. It made her sick to her stomach so I respect that. I’m 40 but I’m hoping that when my kids are no longer dependent, I’ll be back up there
Is it true that the 500 is a favorite among most heli pilots? I've heard they're quite a joy to fly.
The 500 is like flying a Ferrari😎
You're right it's not pretty... It's pretty awesome!
That wasn't bad for a fighter jock. I did about the same the first time as well..and you are correct, it is A LOT to do at once.. LOL
Wasn't bad C.W. wasn't bad! 😂 Lol now you know how we helo pilots feel! I'm a Blackhawk/LUH guy from Rucker haha so this is awesome to see the world's cross man!
First time I tried to hover my instructor told me to try and not squeeze all the black juice out of the cyclic hand grip ...
Pretty damn cool transition from them fast dudes to ahem, low, slow an' watchin' the grass grow...ain't nothin' in the whole wide world like...flyin'...take your pick of them babies!
I’m an ex UK 🇬🇧 JTAC (Joint Terminal Air Controller) for the army, basically I talked in various weapons platforms onto there targets in various places I served. I’ve always been extremely interested in aviation & I didn’t do well at school but just because this happened it didn’t end my dream of being a pilot. Dreams are NEVER over, only when you decide or only sometimes delayed. In fact I believe that if my life path had been any different I wouldn’t be where I am now. I requested a transfer to become an Army Air Corps helicopter pilot after 12 years service & having my left foot blown off, therefore couldn’t carry on being a Para & jumping out of planes into dangerous situations & having to walk up mountains carrying heavy stuff including radios, batteries & my own stuff. I passed my interview to train to be an Army Air Corps Pilot (AAC) or Teeny Weeny Airways (TWA) as us soldiers used to call them & was sent back to England 🏴 (i was based in Germany at the time) I started my flight training after many medical exams, I felt as if they WANTED me to not be medically fit enough, but impasses all their tests & I got a training slot. This strangely began with a fixed wing Chipmunk, an ex WW2 era tail dragger, these ones didn’t even have the luxury of a bubble canopy that most Chipmunks have these days, we had the original panelled canopies which in an emergency you could punch out the side window or just retract the canopy off the rails. I remember on start up, the entire instrument panel would vibrate so bad you couldn’t make anything out.The parachutes did not give you confidence either as they formed part of your seat, you had to sit in a metal bucket with you’re parachute as your seat cushion. It’s impossible to stand up straight wearing it so it wasn’t a good Tom Cruise look, so no opportunity to send cool pictures home. I learned to love the Chipmunk though, after 30 hours when we proved we had a basic understanding of flight I was sad to see it go, we progressed onto Gazelles for basic rotary training, the Gazelle is the Mazda MX5 of the helicopter world, after we had completed this stage successfully we then learned more about tactical flying, utilising the airframe/terrain plus even the weather to your advantage to successfully accomplish your mission all mixed in IMC etc, it was VERY VERY intense but 9 of the original 14 of us passed. Which is actually an extraordinarily high pass rate for a course, they have had in the past just 1 or 2 pass. Some people though are invited to retry if they have shown promise. I then moved onto the wonderful/beautiful & fastest flying helicopter in the world 🌍, the amazing Westland Lynx (latest version is the Lynx Wildcat) we, for the first time learned how to fight an advanced aircraft, using all of the assets available to us, from intelligence on the ground using the Mk1 eyeball right up to utilising satellite info ex & more, my past experience as a JTAC proved very useful. When you put all the components of military flying together it’s an amazing thing. You have to think tactical but at the same time deal with all the usual stuff that the average pilot would experience. In much more testing conditions though, which is why I believe that military flying is THE BEST training you can receive. The USA & The UK obviously being the best at it. What I’m trying to get across is even if you didn’t do well at school, thought that you’re dreams of flying are over, joining the army with NO intention of becoming a pilot, that sometimes, if you are passionate enough, you CAN do it. Dreams are NEVER over, only YOU can self eliminate. Make them have to push you through that door if they are trying to tell you no. That attitude WILL get noticed & WILL be you’re best friend. So, when you are crawling through that mud, freezing cold, wearing that 50 kg backpack ensure you have the right attitude & you will magically find that dreams will find their path to you. So, that’s how it works people, now, go & do it ✅. As the man says, MAKE THEM TELL YOU NO!!!!!! Make them force you out that door. No matter what situations you find yourself in, THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY. Now, it’s up to you.........I am now retired, I did want the opportunity as a last hurrah to fly the British version of the Apache. The AH64E. Which was bought from the USA & upgraded by British Aerospace BAE, we had the opportunity to put modern Rolls Royce Turbomeca engines & an updated radar targeting system, a world beating defence system plus the upgrades to operate from naval vessels. This would of been great to get the chance to go to sea but I was just old by this time. I don’t regret anything & please always work off the principle of never self eliminate. You will never have any regrets if you do. Thanks for taking the time to read this very long RUclips comment & I hope it has been of some use. Regards, Mark
Well done for living the dream. I wish I knew better than to choose infantry.
This is like a small book.....
Daimo Thx I did. start as a grunt n worked my way up. If you’re still in work for a transfer n don’t let anyone put you off.
shahbaz ahmad LOL 😆 yeah I admit I did get a bit carried away, it was one of those moments when I was in the zones n just started typing. Thanks for reply
Happens to the best of us
Holy smokes, she put that thing on a little lawnmower trailer!
As a Black Hawk pilot that visits the channel often, I really appreciate you taking the time to show folks the rotary side of things!
Me too!
Are you in the Royal Air Force?
@@blu581 As far as I know, the RAF never bought any Blackhawks, refusing deals on three separate occasions:
'Davies admits that rather than opt for the "earlier acquisition of another helicopter", the government chose to pursue the heavily criticised refit of Britain's ageing Puma fleet.' - The Guardian. My understanding is after the Lynx was further developed into the Wildcat which entered service in 2014, those and the upgraded Pumas both carry on the role that the Blackhawks would have provided.
Hovering is for pilots who love to fly but have no place to go! 😆
Nicely done, sir!
Now that's fighter pilot concentration! 3:53
It's great to see all the rotary wing stuff recently, certainly makes me miss it! Former navy helo bubba here (SH-60Bs and IP in the TH-57B/C). I was a contact phase instructor in advanced, and I've seen far uglier first attempts to hover! Nice job! Love the channel!
Are you kidding? “It’s not pretty?” I have given TONS of stick time in hover practice to all levels of people who have everything from airplane ATP to complete novice and can’t keep the helicopter in the same area code! Nice!
I flew an F-15 guy in my Cobra years ago...let's just say afterwards he had a whole new respect for us Rotor heads...
KNBG?
That helmet in black looks so damn Imperial XD
Having served in an Air Assault unit.. I can say that helicopters are amazing machines and the pilots are just as amazing. You did extremely well. I can barely maintain a heading on a Sim in a Helo, and you managed to hover in the real deal. Kinda jealous of your skills, sir. 😊
It's that "seat of the pants" feel you don't get in the sim. you can feel where the bird wants to go, and you just think "nope... not today."
All have to say is DCS Gazelle......practice on that for a few weeks and go fly again. I et you ll improve 10 fold
Very impressive!!! And for only your 2nd time? Incredible.
PS - I really like how you get right to the action in your videos and have an outro instead of an intro.