Aurora reads more like someone's OC than an official Champion || Casual Champion Review
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To quote a person on twitter:
"Why does she get to have the power we all autistic introverts want: Invisible on command"
AND it refreshes upon killing someone
@@azurabbit12 not particularly useful about that part irl but better than not
@@laikhoabang not useful for YOU anyways
twitch shaco eve have been quite since that
Holy shit! Am I autistic?
Edit: "Walking on your toes is apparently an autism thing." SERIOUSLY, DO I HAVE AUTISM!!!?
How come we always get the "I want petite somewhat furry, cute aitistic anime girl" oc dev and never "I want giant flaming lizard with a greatsword" oc dev
That's for the Shyvanna rework
@@zetacomet5961 We can only hope
"Hey, we got a new dragon for ya!"
"That's awesome!"
*Presents rejected Skylander design*
"Nevermind!"
Because the industry is full of cowards who can't handle the sight of a monster woman who actually looks like a monster.
Preach!👐
i will never forgive them from taking the fluffy cloak from me
Like riot has the self control to not make a female champ like a league female champ…
The legs are for an IV bag shape
Absolutely HATE that they took her jacket off. Makes her design so much less unique!
@@Jan_IedemaRell, Illaoi, Zeri, Renata ... So much exemple of great unique female characters from Riot, sometimes they just don't even try it seems like
I am with you!
"Rabbits have blood in them so we decided to give her the shape of an IV bag"
I stoped caring about Freljord champions not being clothed for low temprature. Exluding Demigods, and Gnar we have 7 champs not wearing right clothes for cold and only 3 who do: Nunu, Sejuani and Lissandra. At this point its just Freljord thing and I dont think Riot will ever fix, or even care about this issue.
AURORA IS A VASTAYAH
VA. STA. YAH.
SAY IT WITH ME
VA. STA. YAH
SHE HAS NATURAL FUR
@@evalyne1105not sure if you realise but fur needs to actaully exist across a surface to keep it warm, so having fur on your back doesnt warm exposed arms for example
@@evalyne1105 where's er fur? it's so unobvious even though it's there, and certainly not thick enough for the cold
@@evalyne1105ok so, why is she covering her whole torso if she doesn't need?
Or you're telling me that only her thighs can produce enough heat as to not need any clothing there?
Even then, that's very weak fur, you can even see her skin at places
@@evalyne1105 is this "fur" in the room with us right now?
Gwen gets the blame for being a genshin look a like but i can see aurora fitting in genshin more
On god, i agree
Both do, Gwen took a bigger blow mostly bc due to her concept, genshin/generic rpg design was not in the top of preferred styles to work that concept on
agree apart from that genshin characters use more shades of the same colours while Aurora has lot of different colours
They both fit, but Gwen is at least still somewhat believable for being a doll come to life, especially being the doll of a queen from a rich kingdom. If it weren't for this, her design would also be extremely immersion breaking.
Its not like Gwen's design is that good, but its far better than Aurora's
Aurora is very similar to a character from Granblue fantasy. They are both bunny women who can talk to light blue animal spirits
I just find it baffling that, after being criticised for Sett not looking very Vastayan, and multiple times for Freijord champions not dressing like someone from the Freijord, they make a barely Vastayan champion from the Freijord who doesn't dress appropriately, with her vastayan features looking like they are just... stuck onto her outfit. She doesn't remind me of Xayah and Rakan, she reminds me of Battle Bunny Riven.
Also I fully agree with you about the downfall of goonkind's reputation.
Criticized in comment sections of videos like this one? Sure, plenty of criticism. Criticism in the way that matters? That being what brings in money? Absolutely not. Sett sells skins like crazy.
The thing is tho … almost all Freljordian champs show skin and a lot of it too. Ashe? Wears a skirt with bare thighs and bear arms. Braum and tryndamere? Literally shirtless. Olaf? Thighs and Arms. Even Trundle is basically just a looncloth (I know hes a frost troll, but if we’re arguing semantics here why is she being a bunny with furr not a valid point then?). The lack of appropriate clothing for a winter region I think is the point of design for the Freljord, making it different than most other Ice/Snow Regions in other games.
@@zachtemoro2116 You fail to consider that multiple of these designs are incredibly old and outdated, specifically Tryndamere and Ashe. Look at Sejuani for comparison.
You can also look at Runeterra, apart from Volibear's followers and the spiritwalkers, these people don't dress like that at all.
Braum being shirtless is en explicit part of his design, his legend, what sets him apart from other people, he's like the one human for whom it makes sense.
As for the Trundle/Aurora comparison and the point of her being a snow rabbit, that would work *_if she had thick fur._* The entire point of Vastayans is that they are humans enhanced by animal features. Aurora decidedly lacks the features of a rabbit that would help her against the cold, they've shown her wearing a cloak to protect herself from the weather. It's not believable for her to suddenly be frost-proof because she has a tail and ears. She still has 90% human physiology, compared to Trundle who is a fantasy being from top to bottom. I can believe Trundle doesn't get affected by the cold. I can't do the same for Aurora, especially when they show that she has clothes meant to fend it off.
@@GumshoeClassic what a cop out excuse. “They’re old designs so checkmate” is such a weird, non sensical answer bc clearly, Aurora, is following the EXACT same design philosophy as others there. Like why are you pretending that the designs of the earlier champs are exceptions to a new made up Design Choice for Freljord rather than the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like?
To make the argument for you, Ashe in “Still Here” does get an updated look with more covering her … but Tryndamere doesn’t. Same with Olaf, still has a lot of skin showing in that cinematic. So clearly its not even an old aesthetic from a bygone era of league thing, its still actively a choice made for characters in that region.
Removing all of that though I just don’t like the design, I just don’t see how it makes any sense to criticize it from a “Freljordian” angle when almost all their roster wears revealing clothing in a Tundra setting. To me thats what made the region different than most other Fantasy Winter regions in games
@@zachtemoro2116 Tryndamere is explicitly a man defying death at every turn, and Olaf is someone who *seeks* death. While I don't really agree, there is room to justify them not protecting themselves against the cold. But Sejuani doesn't run around like that, neither does Nunu, or the vast majority of the non-Volibear aligned Freijordians we have seen in the entire franchise. Being half-naked is not a core part of Freijord culture, and decade-old designs that Riot doesn't flip on their head due to needing to keep them recognizable as the established characters are not "the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like".
And even if we were to accept that Freijord people just don't cover up (which again, is not the case for most of them, there are mountains of artwork showing it), *we have seen that Aurora does, literally the first look we ever had at her showed her wearing protective clothing.*
I really liked her better with the cloat (the "blurred" glasses like her icon were cool too)
>walking on your tip toes is an autism thing
>well I guess now I need to go see a doctor
Well shit
any update
fr now idk if i have to see a doctor too. that's how I learned to walk..
Yeah found that out last year... got a 186 on one of those online tests. Finally a high score, my parents can finally be proud of me.
I think people are misunderstanding what shes doing, shes not on her toes, she literally has rabbit feen and can only walk tall lol
@@joefamliyguy1551 its both. it was a design choice to represent that
I think the full voice shows it better than I know how to explain it but personality wise she isn't supposed to be shy I think. More of a straight foward person who is very passionate about the things she likes and has little energy/interest in social stuff. So like the cloak thingy is not that much about shyness but something else (maybe seclussion until she gets ornn's trust and "opens up" or maybe just promotional 'uuuu i wonder what will she look like' but idrk)
She isn't, I don't understand why he said she's shy either. Unlike Lillia, who went for a "shy but cute" girl stereotype for sex appeal, here Aurora is more of a "nerdy cute self-confident girl"
@@tamas9554 Nicky forgot the word introverted existed.
Nicky, the pause feature IS in live. But it's only available in customs. It's the worst grief you can run into when you get a pauser in your custom by allowing randoms in.
Nicky I stopped playing league 3 years ago and you're the only league youtuber I still watch excluding Nithin Darkmane
I love how of many OG Leaguetubers, only Darkmane has remained, still continuing with his wackass builds and loving league with his heart, like the dude was the game's only big defender during the 'Don't play league just because you liked Arcane' era.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I always loved him, the videos that aren't league themed are my favourite, but I always enjoyed the glorious guides too. He's the one who got me into dark souls with the ds3 video and I've now sunken a total of 1000 hours in soulsborne , that one video really changed what games I play to this day. He's also just hilarious, I remember being really sick one night and I just binged his videos , shit made me feel so much better
@@savakirilov5263 yeah, he has such a disctincg voice and direction in his videos that makes him stand out no matter what game he plays. Him playing Civ and making an entire fanfic is my favorite of his.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I love the ones where he is not even playing games, him cooking with a running home throughout the video or reacting to Indian shows he used to watch as a child for example
@@savakirilov5263 his cooking videos were so psychotic ahahaha
I kinda agree with the OC bit, I think all of the champions since Hwei (excluding the Skarner rework) have felt that way. I love the visuals of the spirit realm and finally getting some freljord lore, but yeah she does feel very shoehorned in for the sake of it
At least we'll be getting Ambessa soon, she won't feel out of place in the universe since she wasn't even designed for the game originally.
I think what you mean as in personal characters. Ones whose story and concept sort of center them as themselves rather than as direct of a theme or archetype.
Even with Hwei, as the depressed-ish artist, has traits that center around his theme of interpersonal stuff rather than being based on as directly of stuff like Smolder or Ornn.
I remember looking her up when I first heard of her and as soon as I saw her splash art I said out loud "Are you shitting me"
She looked way better in the Ornn minigame.
Someone from higherups saw her and was like "not sexy enough, fix this". Shame.
@@aabeeek "We need money, money moves the world and we love the money"
@@supremeheroism7524um actually 🤓
@@supremeheroism7524 dawg does NOT respect the art of storytelling.
Exaggeration is like, one of the most frequently used story telling tools to exist, if this is your reaction to seeing someone use it then you are either miserably boring, or extraordinarily insufferable.
Did they actually say it out loud? eh, 50/50, its possible, we weren't there, we can't prove either way, but dude this comment actually makes you look like a massive clown, or a redditor, which might be worse.
@@supremeheroism7524 Bro neither are you, picking apart someone's comment like this, get a fucking life.
To push the lilia sameness. little spirit goobers were introduced to revolve around lilia in LoR. Seeing the same little spirit goober around Aurora feels so redundant
aurora is very very unoriginal in her entire champ, she's lillia with legs but less shy and more dumb, she says yone shouldnt kill spirits without knowing what azakana are ... at least lillia minds her business
@@soroushkowsarian3364 she also just yoinked taliyah's origin story with the special powers no one around her has and the older, tortured mentor who helps her out but ultimately can't teach her what she really wants.
To me, Aroura feels like if the original champion idea had a skin and that skin was turned into the actual character. She has the boots, a witches hat, with these other clothes that look too high-fashion to be in the base Freljord region. I also don’t think the witch hat was a good idea not because it looks bad but it severely what skin aesthetics can be done with her. Bewitching is obviously going to happen, she would have made a good candy skin if it was not discontinued, and I guess faerie court but that’s all I can think of.
I can easily imagine her in any of these skinlines: elderwood, faerie court, coven, any asian skinline, that new frog skinline or the bees skinline could work, any winter themed skinlines., crystal rose, arcade/battle boss, monster tamer, debonaire/crime city even pool party could work by turning the hat into a similar one like caitlyns pool party skin.
@@brunop299 Beeoura
To me, she definitely looks better with a smaller bust. Makes her look more lithe and mousey.
But the day Riot makes a properly dressed Freljordian champion is the day the world ends.
May i introduce to you nunu lissandra and sejuani?
@@WholesomeVolibear
Lissandra is not even wearing gloves. Nunu doesn't count. He's too young to understand how important it is to be sexy in a blizzard yet. Willump might forget to teach him. And by Sejuani, I see you mean "new" Sejuani. Look up pre-rework.
@@Tsuki0ni to be fair the new sejuani is the character now. The old one is gone
Imma be honest, besides the fact that the coat design and the art concepts of Aurora were absolute bangers in comparison of what we got in game what pisses me off is the fact that Aurora is able to see into the spirit realm. AND HAS ZERO INTERACTIONS WITH SHEN XD. Like, RIOT, stop trying to exploit league for money and give it some love ffs
IKR LIKE THE WAY SHES JUST SHEN BUT WITH BUNNY EARS????
Rioter say they remove her interaction with Shen for champion data file size, BUT WHY SHEN OUT OF ALL THE UNIMPORTANT INTERACTIONS
Hilarious to me how the dev log on Aurora has them saying how they "didn't want just a human girl with bunny ears", and in one of the following images she looks exactly like one. Almost like they don't want to admit her animal parts look like an obvious afterthought given her fur is almost the same colour of her skin and the rest that sets her apart from a human with costume is visually irrelevant/downplayed
I think she would look better with the coat she had in the story with ornn
I don't know what's worse: that it's another (female) vastaya that looks like a regular human woman with animal ears, or that, after her teaser showed her in a mildly interesting cloak, she ended up looking like she's wearing a sexy Halloween costume. This is probably the worst character design for a new-ish champion I've seen, and that's really something in the Year of Our Lord Smolder 2024.
And they gave her the r34 proportions!
She's just an extremely heavily oversexualised character.
Short curly hair, glasses, freckles, soft bunny ears and a tail, and even her clothing plays further into the "cute nerdy girl" concept, with her shoulders and thighs not being covered. She is factually the most oversexualised character in League, especially because her story doesn't focus on her attractiveness at all, unlike with Elise for example
@@tamas9554 I dunno, there's still LoL Janna and Nidalee. They at least have an "excuse" of being ancient, though. Aurora is not only too sexualized, she doesn't look like she belongs in the world at all. In case of Nidalee, I can at least imagine someone dressing in animal skins and living in a jungle. The only place that Aurora looks like she belongs to is a Piltovan costume party, and even then just barely.
@@ninjatoriumnova2483 Nidalee is perfeclty fine for a "wild jungle huntress" character, her outfit actually makes sense, criticising her for it would be like saying why is Tarzan shirtless :DD
Janna is just severely outdated at this point, same with Syndra and many other character too. (LeBlanc)
I agree though, Aurora is a modern character and she has none of those explanations of being outdated or her look actually fitting the narrative. She really only would make sense in Piltover or some other new region.
Problem is her character doesn't give us worldbuilding about her tribe either, so its even less believable
@@tamas9554 Nidalee is wearing a fur bikini. It's another outfit that looks like a sexy cosplay. On the other hand, the armor that she's wearing on the picture for her flavor story is great.
Even though I'm a rather horny guy, who loves red-haired/ginger girls in anime and animation, I still think this design does not work well. The cloak design works so much better, it ramps up her adorableness so much.
As someone who is also a horny guy and loves red-hairs/gingers and thighs, I agree. Hell, the idea of her using her ears to make a scarf is adorable. Also, you can show them thighs in her cloak, or have her decloaked when she jumps in the spirit realm or when she ults, have her go all out to defeat that powerful enemy just this once. I still like her design, don't get me wrong, because dem thighs, but I think a cloak and witch hat would've been nice (hell, maybe not making her Freljordian would've been better, I can see her being Demacian, from the outskirts of the country, maybe Morgana's disciple
@@CrabKFP...Morgana can make portals?
@@greschenglin-dz7wj i'm saying that, because she is a magical creature in Demacia, the best option she has for protection is Morgana
@@CrabKFP Ahh. I was about to ask how she'd even manage in Demacia to begin with, nevermind be able to do the research she does in a place that's very anti-magic.
In the literal sense too.
People like you always say this as if saving face when in reality you are all just weird af
I literally said how her "fur" coloring being effectively the same as regular skin toning has the same reasonability as the whole "blood bag" excuse they gave for Briar and people said I was exaggerating.
Whats the blood bag excuse for briar?
@@lin7105I also want to know
@@lin7105 If I recall correctly the excuse is that briar has thick legs is because she is “modeled” after a blood bag, and because the blood is at the bottom she has a thick bottom as well…
Yea that’s a horrible explanation.
I really encourage you guys to look it up because it’s very funny to see how they try to explain her thicc thighs 🤣
@@lizpurr4176 it really sounded like some DeviantArt artist trying to explain why all his female character drawings are all borderline hentai looking while everything else looks completely bland
Ornn: What are you on?
Aurora: THE AUTISM SPECTRUM JACKASS!!!
I'm just glad i got fuel for my "vastayans can see/hear spirits more often than others" theory. Sett's only half vastayan but in LOR he can hear Alune, the only person so far who talks to her directly/by name afaik
Lost the cloak for her to get a genshin impact costume
Riot try not to add a gooner bait hyper mobile burst mage challenge (impossible)
But she’s not like the OTHER girls she’s quite quirky (Autistic).
I think Nicky forgets he posted those pictures on Twitter where everyone is just mad and use it as an outlet
I thought that after Ashe’s voice update they would have made themselves self aware of the lack of clothing in Freljord champs…
So you’re telling me Aurora, who’s not even an iceborn or completely covered in fur is running around in shorts and exposed shoulders? AND she mocks Lewis’s outfit?
I disagree with this opinion. She is Freljordian Vastaya. It seems her race is just really adapted to cold climate of Freljord, just like Ice Trolls for example.
She is completely covered in fur actually.
@@jeromevent4548 a tiny fur
Aurora is FROM the Freljord, but she is not IN the Freljord. Aurora is a traveler. When she's in the Freljord, she wears her cloak for warmth and coverage. When she's elsewhere in the world (and therefore doesn't need the cloak), she wears her normal clothes, including her hat.
It's not complicated.
@@jerryhook5906 She's traveling across Freljord though.
Volibear and Anivia didn't decide to take a summer vacation in Demacia from what I can tell.
I really thought her splash art was really good fanart of Rei from Paladins at first
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!!
she's so similar to Rei, idk what's with bunny girls, glasses and magic
The thing is that Aurora isnt even that bad of a champ for like "This feels like an OC" To me the only couple things that really breaks her character from being believable to me is 1. Making her sexy was a really strange concept to me. Like why are her thighs exposed, Why is she wearing a virgin killer sweater. So many people loved her cloak way more. including me. 2. "Ah yes, I am the only one of my race that can commune with spirits and everyone thought I was crazy even though spirits are extremely common in freljord." It would make more sense if Her whole race have sensitivity to spirits and the spirit world.
Honestly, I really like the idea of Ornn and Aurora Autistic BFFs. Thats usually how it ends up in real life. Her just finding a dying god is a bit strange but if elaborated on could be really cool. Like in all honesty it would make more sense if with Ornn's help they could cure the demi god, Then Aurora Adventures around Freljord to save m ore wounded/ faded/ corrupted spirits with the use of her wand and Ornn's help. Thats really ALL it would take for me to go, Yeah, she belongs in League.
To be fair, many of my characters start out as "I want to make X!!" gimmick. But you are absolutely right, the character needs to grow beyond that first step idea and actually evolve alongside their role and place in the story/world. Sometimes the gimmick character does need to be let go because they just can't evolve in the end.
Aurora cloak sprite vs Aurora in game is a cyberpunk 2077 level lie 😭
Sad the jacket didn't make it to the final design. She just reads too much as an stereotipical wastern wizard (hat and wand) for my liking.
Im getting tired of the new releases. They dont even count to the Runeterra universe for me, I just think of them as the in game additions and thats it
Did not expect her to have this design, I really liked the cloak. Riot try not to give freljordian Champs exposed skin challenge: level impossible
Have a safe flight nicky! Enjoy Twitchcon!
personally i think Haestryr is the elk of bones, a demi-god of the freljord wich seems to have something to do with divination or death. the reason why he doesn't have many followers is explained by the legends of runeterra card: bone scryer wich has this description: Few scry the future as well as the shamans serving the Elk of Bones. Fewer still can stomach seeing the looming death of any who come seeking their foresight. Haestryr probably isn't him since we only know about the ellk from the bone scryer card and no other sources. but that's my theory.
I dunno what comic you read but she definitely wasn't shy. The whole reason she got Ornn's attention was that she stayed despite his grumpiness and kept asking about things.
She is, extremely obviously meant to be autistic tbh. Doesn’t like talking about things other than her interests isn’t a fan of social interactions doesn’t take hints had a unique sensory experience. Home girl has ASD
I mean, technically every champ is someone's OC. Also, like it's seconds after this video uploaded, so this could show up as a topic he discusses, but since this was a pretty hot topic on her, I personally think Aurora being openly labelled as autistic is good and important actually.
Labels are important, and sure sometimes it might seem pandery and for show, but it also allows people to easily identify with the character. People may say 'good representarion shouldn't be so overt and shpuld be read between the lines' but those same people only do that so that they can ignore those things and bully the people who interpret those characters as that identity.
Aurora being labelled as autistic, played by an autistic voice actress, and written to be autistic is important so that the ignorant and hateful people who would want these things to be buried and quiey can't do so with her, and so that people who relate to her because of her autism can openly do so without anyone denying them that.
My problem is that they removed the actually interesting design of her being a vlosed off individual and just said make her hot instead. Like what about that conveys the character’s personality whatsoever? Not saying autistic people can’t be hot but come on. This is lazy design.
The fact that her voice lines make it so blatantly obvious that she's autistic makes the labeling all the more necessary, in my opinion.
I think you care waay too much about what other people think, who cares if some random person on the internet says a fictional character is autistic or not?
@@atsukana1704Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the character design. Mine is more on her identiyy, since I saw a lot of discourse on thay specifically. Like design wise, shr could be so much better.
@@erlandochoa8278 Autistic people may care, and if you don't, great! Then there is no reason at all to mind the fact that she is, just ignore it, people who care will be glad, just let'em.
"Has the ability to see the spirit realm/see spirits"
One word: Yorick.
Yorick can't catch a break, man 😭😭
Shen?
@@MrIljuha2000 that's two*
Aurora feels like a Final Fantasy 14 player payed good money to have their Viera character made into a champion.
"I don't really like that (furry) stuff." Said the guy who made a big tiddy snake lady his channel mascot
Scaly =/= furry
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, Scalies are a subsection of furries.
Correct it aint furry, its scaly
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, scalies are a sub section of furries.
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, scalies are a subsection of furries.
I don't really see what you mean by OC for it because I feel you could be that way about any new champion in league who wasn't teased before in lore (maybe even if they are or not). I sorta see being worried about a character being made from the thought of having a bunny mage in runeterra but I feel thats apart of just any design, like a concept and where it could or would fit in the pre-existing universe. The take with being friends with every Demi-god is felt and if she ends up being a friend to them all, I dont think I personally would enjoy that but with Ornn i think its an interesting decision that could add more depth to someone like Ornn who is kinda just the grumpy old shut in (for good reasons ofc). Honestly she will probably be like Seraphine on release and hopefully grow/show she is a character of runeterra but i think almost any new champion, not teased in lore, may come off as OC like because we never knew of them before so they seem placed in (which tbh they are but every champion is, Ksante's feels that way for me)
Head Canon : she forced a bunny character for the Chinese new year of the bunny, it's this year.
I think her story is more or less a convenient self-insert which actually contributes very little to the story. We don't get to know anything about her tribe, how do they survive in the Freljord, what is their culture like, when and why did they come here, whats their technology level, etc.
Like, this is important because Aurora's clothing (especially glasses), suggests that they are quite an advanced tribe despite living in the harshest natural region of Runeterra, yet we know nothing.
How did Aurora even learn to use her magic for example? Thats also unanswered, despite LoL's story being clear that you can't just teach yourself magic, it doesn't work like that. (Lux)
How can she survive outside of her village's safety, out in the cold, where plant life is basically absent and the only creatures she could hunt won't give up easily?
And this isn't even the self-insert part, that happens with the Ornn stuff. Like, of course she just stumbles upon a dying and mad old spirit-god, who of course doesn't end up killing her like it did many others, and of course she finds Udyr and later Ornn's residence. After all of this, of course Ornn realises she is entirely different from everyone he's ever met and welcomes her in like a father figure.
But Aurora is no simple innocent character either, she is charismatic, wise and seems extremely capable in all regards, despite her supposedly having no actual way to come into possession of the knowledge she has.
She feels like if someone inserted their OC into the story, hence why her meeting with Udyr and Ornn feels so convenient. She needs these for her story to work, and unlike Nami for example, she easily finds the people important for her objective. And this is not even counting what the story says about her current goal, because thats somewhat unclear as well.
She kinda is like a Mary Sue, though this isn't suprising from the writer who also created Milio :D
you made the best points about her. when i read the comic and played the interactive novel in the league client i was SOOOOOOO baffled by how conveniently she barged in on Ornn's life
such a Mary Sue smh, and the problem with this story design is compared to an incomplete story like Nami's is that there is no more room for more lore and new short stories for Aurora? she seems like a one-and-done character whose character arc ended the moment it began
@@chokeolatte Basically. We know that in order to heal Hestrelk, she would somehow have to make the people of the Freljord believe in him again.
But thats not what her story says, because it follows as this:
"Believing these demigods hold the key to Hestrelk’s recovery, Aurora has left Hearth-Home and now traverses through the material and spirit realms of her frozen homeland in unwavering pursuit of their knowledge."
So, does this mean she will search for other spirit-gods too? Will she ask them questions as well? What will happen after that? I mean if Ornn couldn't do anything to help them, why would the others?
Its also such a convenient way of her getting to know about all of this, like these solutions are just offered up on a silver platter.
The writer of Aurora's story actually also wrote Milio. In his background, he literally became the master of the fire axiom, basically the rule which ixtaly people use to manipulate fire, because he "studied nature himself".
So not only did he master a discipline others would fail to do so WITH a master training them for years, but also discovered an ENTIRELY new way of using fire.
Like, this is fanfiction levels, I'm not even sorry for saying that :DD
I kinda wish they made her chubby, like Mei from Overwatch could’ve be perfect. She’s should’ve been a fluffy bunny.
Omfg, chubby rabbit girl sounds absolutely amazing.
I might deadass make an OC based around that concept lmao
Yuck, if I wanted to see fat people, I'd just go to the local Walmart.
As a person on the autism spectrum, I very much dislike her being on the autism spectrum.
It's never handled properly, and I don't feel like they handled it properly with Aurora either. It's not especially offensive like some portrayals of autism is, but it really doesn't feel like autism whatsoever. It's not an easy thing to create an autistic person, and on the other hand it is very easy. But when you state that a character is autistic I think it should have some bearing on the story, or at least her own story... Which it doesn't really. It's just something that's tacked on, and all the autistic characteristics of her character could easily be designated as simply quirks.
There are so many characters in Runeterra that could be classified as autistic if you really wanted to, and Aurora is no different, yet she must be explicitly stated to be autistic, as though some Rioters gain some particular glee from it. Again, as someone on the autism spectrum, it's not fun to be autistic. It is a massive hindrance in day to day life. Forming interpersonal relations is a struggle. One is easily overwhelmed by seemingly mundane things, such as shoelaces coming undone, or the bus being late.
Aint none of that. That's too hard to discuss or show, so just give me a quirky introverted (despite her outfit) bunny girl. Again, it's not directly insulting, but it is lazy. It feels like pandering. I want a character I can relate to, not one I am told to relate to. If I didn't know she was supposed to be autistic, I think I would have liked her more, but because I know it kinda ruins her to me. Like a sort of show don't tell fashion.
It's hard to properly put into words, so I suppose I'll say it like this: I don't feel seen, I feel misunderstood.
I kinda agree with you when you say about Rakan and Xayah.I alway feel weird that a champion base on a very hyper active animal like rabbit is austistic and shy????
"Looks like someone's OC"
Oh so we're ignoring all of August's abominations then? HEY VIEGO, LOOK WHO'S TIRED OF YOU
Man Viego could have looked so coooool......instead he's literally just a dude.
As respectfully as I can put this, it seems like unless Nicky gets something blatantly wrong, it feels like these videos consistently develop into an echo chamber of a comment section? Granted, it's an extremely low stakes issue on the wider internet being only a subset of a subset of a subset of League's playerbase, and I guess it makes sense as to why it happens given the usual topics but it's kinda dissuading from engaging with any contrasting opinions. I like Aurora, I think she's neat, but I wouldn't reply to any other comments about it 'cause the vibe is We Do Not Approve. Ah well.
I think a big portion of the people who watch his videos would also feel like Aurora's design is disappointing without his input.
@@Oscar97o Even still, you've gotta scroll pretty far to find insight beyond people handshaking with themselves over and over. It's like the world's most irrelevant circlejerk, and I'll admit that it rubs me the wrong way.
I get what u mean with the whole she feels like an oc thing but... still a better oc than kiriko overwatch 😭
Boring design.
Whenever they make Vastayah that are more like Ahri than Rengar, I yawn.
She doesn't even have bunny legs akin to Rakan and Xayah having bird legs.
"Just plop some bunny ears and a tail on an attractive girl and boom, magical creature."
And then there's her kit which makes me, a Mordekaiser player, cry because now there's yet another little shit with 5 different movement options that I have to run after.
I have not even watched the video but the title really summed up the feeling I could not put my finger upon.
One thing I genuinely love about Aurora, is that she's an autistic character who isn't stereotypical, like she has social competency! She's not emotionally stunted or child like! Also she's clearly an autistic character who isn't afraid to be pretty, it's nice to see an autistic character for once who ISN'T stereotypically ace, not that I dislike ace characters, just that I as an autistic person, almost never see, good, autistic characters who aren't ace. It just makes me a little sad that a large portion of us autistics, that y'know are straight and gay and bi and demi and pan and so on, are nearly never represented. But Aurora clearly has some sexuality as a person in their design, not sexualised, but that she wants to look good. It's a strange thing to notice, but it's one that was clear. And that she also just can speak to people, and speak her mind, while still having a hard time relating. I like that, and relate to it. Like just look at what she says to Voli, casually telling a Demigod to quit trying to get in her hand with extreme confidence, I love it!
A thing I've noticed about autistic characters. If the character is stated, in universe, to be autistic, then they're usually terrible representation. If a character is never stated to be autistic in the story (regardless of whether or not it's the intent), then they're usually great representation. There are exceptions of course, but I've noticed this a lot that they're generally a token autistic character when they're stated to be autistic in the story, because the writers just want the brownie points, while if they're not stated to be autistic in the story, then they want to let the audience figure that out for themselves, so they take more care to make them feel more real. Even if they say in dev blogs or interviews or whatever that they are autistic, they still need to push that in the story so that people who don't read those can figure it out.
The problem is that she is still kind of a Mary Sue, which makes her an extremely boring character. She has basically no real insecurities, grievances or other flaws. This is why I believe she is a self-insert from the writer.
Also for Riot wanting her to be a representation for autism, that is completely and utterly unclear from reading her bio for example. I've only learned that she was meant to be this after reading it, and it was quite surprising because her story never includes or hints at it in any way.
And this is not mentioning her backstory adding basically nothing to the world, while her design is also lore-breaking :/
While I understand what you mean, I feel that she's still rather stereotypic, just that instead of being the "Oblivious and unaware child autist", she's the "Hyperfixated autist", mainly from her in-game voicelines cuz they make it feel like all she cares about is Spirits and doesn nothing but talk about Spirits 24/7, there's also the "I hate social interaction" smidges of voicelines here and there that feel kinda forced imo, like they asked what was an introvert trait everyone knows and can relate to and slapped that into her character.
@@zetacomet5961 I mean some of the voice lines do feel forced, but you could say that for every champion. A lot of irelia's voice lines are just her constantly repeating something along the lines of "I miss my family" & "all noxians are rats". Some of samira's voice lines sound like a straight millenial trying a little too hard to use ballroom talk. Akali, kayn, zed, etc. all have a redundant amount of edgy lines. The forced "i hate social interaction" type of voice lines do feel like poor characterization for aurora, but it's kinda unfair to judge her for that when most champions have some kind of forced voice line to exaggerate their personality. Same could kinda be said about her hyperfixation being 90% of her personality and voice lines
@@Ren-jh3xb sure, but it’s not so much that “edgyness/exaggeration” is bad, but “how far can you push edge and exaggeration without falling in harmful stereotypes”, all characters you listed range from cool badass rouge to edgelord and their edge is an extension of their character, something you’d expect from them without putting their archetype under a bad light.
Also just because a defect is shared among other characters doesn’t mean that it’s excusable, half of the freljord champs also don’t wear cold-appropriate clothing but you’re not gonna use that to excuse Aurora's clothing.
When I first saw her, I said out loud to myself "I can't even begin to pretend to care about this character."
Hipster bunny isn't your style?
wow ghostcitynight ur so edgy
@@ennasy7997 How is it edgy to not like something, lol
What does that even mean
If you don't care that much, why are you even here? Why are you giving your opinion? Why are you wasting time on something you don't care?
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919why did you feel the need to comment on their comment tho? Do you care about their feelings toward Aurora this much oooor?
As someone who came to like bunny girls after being a Viera in FFXIV for more than 7 years, i do feel there's something wrong with Aurora.
I agree with the whole OC thing, but Nicky is going to get set on fire by the Aurora community.
Cloack has to be one of earlier versions of design but then artist just got hypnotised by Wizzard's hat and you can't realisticly combine those , so cloak had to go bye bye.
My ff14 character says otherwise
My main issue is that shes not an anthro rabbit.
I feel like they really went ham on the bunny advertisment only to give us "Hey its like Rakan n Xayah but a rabbit!" and its like
did they retcon the whole "vastaya are all manner of wacky combo of creatures and humans"??? Cause I think the closest we got for (post lore update) vastaya is Neeko but shes still like a human modeled into non-human.
Sure her animal features are more pronounced but idk it feels like such a waste to say "heres an incredibly diverse race of people all mish-moshed of different creatures and also humans." and then give us sexy humans with animal features stapled on. At least Xayah n Rakan got cool legs but still.
Since you talk about how much you hate what the word goon became let me tell you a story.
I made board games as a hobby. A bit ago I made one which had some mafia themes and you controlled units in it which were called goons.
Lets just say each player having a board that says in giant text “The Goon Zone” did not age well
These league champions are becoming more and more boring, all of the vasyas from recent times are just sexy male/woman with ears and a tail
Aurora feels like a part of the wonderland system
I don’t like that she first looked like a very different champion than what we already have and now she’s just generic sexy girl n°58 but with bunny ears … also looks a lot like Mikaela Reid from Dead by Daylight (most commercial and skin selling survivor character)
What I like about Aurora is that I think in the lore Ornn doesn’t like creating stuff with magic because he thinks magic erodes his things.
And then he meets Aurora, and makes her wand and witch hat.
it may be he doesnt mind magic users and making gear that harnesses that magic but he does mind when magic users apply magic to his perfectly fine creations that werent made with magic in mind
Ornn likes using magic, just doesn't like to use it as a shortcut to make a tool easily. He wants it to be an actual ingredient
Aurora is just some Viera who attuned into the wrong Aetheryte and now is stuck in League.
Is that Zero bowing down with Hell train shoes, a neo-Kumi lower and phantom-phoenix cloak (maybe?) on your profile pic.
@@JinRupeeland I will say yes with how frightfully spot on you are on describing my image. The coat is wrong l, it was from that detective set I forgot the name.
I see the Chase hasn't left you.
I was a bit surprised at the thin sleeves at first too, but then I realized that her jacket actually is supposed to resemble an arctic hare, with the very fluffy chest/neck and the very thin limbs. After I noticed that I ended up falling in love with her design as a whole. Looks great from the overhead summoner POV too. I do mourn the complete loss of the cloak, though.
While I see the OC thing, I don’t fully agree. That can be put on multiple characters that have been in the game for ages. I like how they used her to add the vastya to the freljord, a thing people have been asking about for a while anyway. I will agree with her not taking advantage of the bunny parts, I don’t agree with having her being a rabbit being part of her personality. The character ends up forced into a box, or the obligatory “I don’t fit in the box” (At least most of the time)
In terms of her design, personality, mannerisms... I think you're kinda just projecting what you think she should be like rather than really looking at who she is. You say she's shy and quiet, but I never got that from her. She has very specific interests and will talk with you about them all day if you let her. Even Ornn noted that, saying she was inquisitive but not annoying. That all being said, I think this perceived "reserved" nature you've tried to place on her and expected to reflect in her clothing.. isn't a thing. Her being cute/sexy doesn't take away from her character, if you ask me. This isn't a Kai'sa situation. As for her lack of bunny mannerisms... I mean, what did you expect? Constant, agile hopping around? She doesn't like rambunctious, loud people, why would she want to be jumping around all the time? It makes sense that she'd be walking around calmly like 99% of the time. The only time she hops is to make a quick escape into the spirit world, otherwise she's chillin.
this is 1000000% another kai’sa situation and mega detracts from her character
hot sexy genshin anime girl number 2518 wow amazing i def care about this champ and her character yep mhm
@inmanis2924 So why can't she be pretty? What's so wrong with this character being pretty? What's unrealistic about that aspect of her?
@@Memyx sure just make every character conventionally hot and cute in the most uninspired way possible. why not? who needs diversity in character designs? why should anything make sense?
enjoy thicc uwu cute anime girl no.7658... clearly there wasn't enough r34 material in the game.....
@@authenticbaguette6673 I do get the need for more diversity, but nobody has given me an actual answer as to how her being conventionally hot actually takes away from her character, so... just sounds like y'all're mad for the sake of being mad.
@@Memyx The burden of proof is on you. Why does she need to be hot? What does it serve beyond distracting from other elements of her character?
The combination of her being "autistic and shy uwu" but also being "coincedentally" hot and thicc fills me with immense ickiness. I hate it to my very bone marrow.
I have absolutely unreasonable bias against her. I just feel like her final design and lore just ended up so disappointing, she doesn't seem special, her outfit seems generic and is way too flashy for her personality, her horned spirit friend isn't even anywhere around her in game? It just feels like everything about her innitial reveal in the minigame just doesn't translate to anything else and that sucks.
Did somebody say Sonic Forces
welkom in amsterdam nicky. ik hoop dat jij het leuk gaat hebben hier!
this is a perfect description. it feels like someone's fanart they do on tumblr. it doesn't feel like it belongs as a champion in a video game.
if she got a skin that gave her a long cloak I'd buy it even if I find her kit boring.
better than her stinky release skin lol
i think watching the chat in this video while nickyboi talks about champion designs sums up everything you need to know about the deep seeded toxicity of league players.
Yeah autism is a very modern word, but it's been around a long time. Modern science only identified it as a unique thing a few decades ago. The first person to be officially diagnosed is still alive and well.
In the old days they used to call autistic people various forms of mental disorders, or in more superstitions times things such as "possessed", "spirit touched", and "changeling". It uh, it did not usually end well for them.
I like Aurora in theory but there's little things that just pain me about her everywhere. Gameplay wise it's just Lillia but as a proper poke mage. I like me a good ol poke mage as much as the next guy but her mobility is something that has me VERY worried for balancing. While she's no Shaco the fact 3 of her moves are some form of mobility/get away is going to be VERY annoying to deal with.
My biggest non game issue is the Autism. I'm autistic and while i'm not OFFENDED they just say it like a Twitter post and to me if that's all the 'representation' they can muster then who's to say Tryndamere isn't dyslexic or Fizz has ADHD even though Runeterra doesn't even know what those things are? I'm sure it's mainly a me thing but it just seems like a throwaway side comment for brownie points. Also who decided to give the BOUNCY, JUMPING character a bigger chest?!
TLDR: Good but annoying looking champ, why autism, and why back problems?
For a longest time dota have been taking features from league. But if pause will make to legue... Get yourself ready for some mid pause "?????????" "1000-7" "zxc" etc
On the topic of sexualisation, my autistic girlfriend hates needless sexualisation. But she loves aurora. The thigh squish is something she loves, because that’s what her thighs do in stockings. She’s been straight up anorexic at times and now she gets to feel sexy in her own slightly thicker than she’d like body.
when will we get a female vastaya that's designed more like rengar...? and her problems are the same as seraphine to me. their personality/lore seems like an after thought while their physical appearance takes the lead.
Can't complain about Aurora's look. Braum, trynd, gragas, udyr, trundle, all the men are shirtless... If the men are half naked in the winter-land, then it's not poor design or sexist for the women to be too. It's equality!
I don’t think she should be categorized as “shy.” She’s an introvert, sure, but she comes across as disliking socializing more than fearing it. We wouldn’t really call Ornn shy would we?
13:23 they did not look at your video about your Redsign of Cassiopia, or comments on Eveelyn.
Like you love it when it fits and adds to the character, whether or not your into it yourself(or at all).
Genuine Question. What part About Aurora is shy? Her visual design isn't shy, her voicelines doesn't depict her as shy, Neither her voice. Genuinly she just feels slightly akward, and kinda nerdy?...
Porn type of shyness
They need to make the character ✨ relatable ✨ so they can make money from it.
She’s cute, so she’s shy.
-average nickyboi watcher
My first thought was 'this is a genshin character, not league' when I saw her splash. Just disappointing. I hate the tacked on 'autism traits' as an autist, but that's just me.
okay serious question here boys... LoR Seraphine or Aurora which one feel less belong to League of Legends?
Id still say sera but aurora just doesnt look like she comes from the freljord
the amount of corn of her being always in heat will be tremendous, you can't put out a witch rabbit girl out and expect normal amounts of said content.
in the legend of runeterra card game, arhi have a follower that is just a bunny person with branch horns. also we have seen bunny looking yordles like in the pentakill video, so they could have go for a more cute / small build too
“She’s gentle and quiet, something Ornnisn’t used to seeing in Non-Ornn beings”
okay i get that people are terrible but damn your drawing of little bunny aurora is so adorable!
the reason Aurora is so disjointed in her design and personality is because she was made to please neckbeards.
what do neckbeards want? a shy, super hot and freaky cosplayer that doesn't talk to anyone else, is all cute, and is super pure but also at the same time super sexy with them. she's all hot but doesn't derive any power from it, doesn't use that to her advantage, she's just shy and submissive.
tell me, doesn't she remind you of that? she's even a redhead with thick thighs, something neckbeards OBSESS over.
How do you know that she is shy and submissive? This sounds like head canon.
I still believe zeri feels more like an oc, specially after arcane. But this is a close second.
Yeah, Zeri feels like a character that would exist after a big timeskip where the fashion and enviornment is made more similar to the modern era. Aurora is cute, I have a bias for the hybrid animal Vastaya like Xayah and Rakan.
I agree but it still feels like Zeri could definitely exist in League and was designed for league.
Aurora feels like she designed as a mobile game gatcha character first and then a league character second
Seraphine's also kinda in that same boat, but her LoR depiction makes it worth IMO.
I'm not an artist but it makes me happy that the amount of fan arts are getting back in numbers now. You guys are part of this series as much as the lore and Nicky's gameplay
Her physical character design is fine to me, I love that her body is covered in orange patches and designs and that she has fur over her and she's not just smooth, she's not just a cute girl with bunny ears which was the coward's way out. Her outfit however... Please guys, I can't be alone right? Her outfit looks straight out of Genshin Impact and it takes me fully out of the game every time tell me I'm not alone ;-;
i duuuunno dude im kinda disagreein with you on some of them there design opinions.
first off rioters have been seeding themselves into the game for years now with like tryndamere and guinsoos and stuff right?
and like...yeah they didnt have bunnies before. vastaya are animal-esque so it makes sense there would be a bunny. why havent we seen them before though, why isnt there a bunny? well they are more around the freljord and we havent explored that end of vastayan culture yet so heres a character that can fulfill that. oh and also this just being a passion project that a riot employee wanted to add so hey two birds! oh hey but it ends up fitting in the setting while also expanding it with this new concept that they thought would be cool, what a bonus!
I just dont want them to not want to have cool interesting ideas anymore because its awkward to write it in at first since its a departure from the like 7 places we know and the established rules. she is the first example we are seeing of bunny vastaya so lets give them time to stew and expand it
either way keep up the good work big cheese, cant wait for you to start getting to the second half of the alphabet!
Man it always sucks thinking about what a champ could’ve been, its really felt like we’ve been in a bit of a slump lately in terms of champ design. None of them have been downright horrible, theres things to like about each of them. But for me at least the last time a champ made me go “Woah this is so cool, its so unique, its executed amazingly” was Renata and that was almost two years ago
Br you flamed vlad for his eternals not mastery 😅 26:33
a freljord champ i came up with, i called Helga, the mountain rescuer, weapon was a ballista, all abilities healed, 4/5 had bonus effect. body big like illaoi,+bird vastaya to tie to rakan an xayah
I hate how much she looks like a gacha game character.
I can't be the only one who thinks she looks like Rei from Paladins, right?