In our sunni tradition, that are more credible than any others, the claims of Ali (ra) being the khalifa of the prophet didn't began to spread until the first fitna that killed Othman (ra).
Very detailed and educational. I like that it does not promote hate. I like how respectfully you address everyone. I am 56 and I left Ismailism when I was 18. My quest was to find God and I realized at that young age that the Agha Khan can’t be God. I feel all human beings have a right to choose their own path religion is personal. It is between me and my God. Coming from an Agha Khani family these videos have been extremely educational. Thank you for making the effort and putting this together. The charity of the Agha Khan was quite visible when to admit my aunt a devoted Agha khani who gave so much of her money to the Agha Khan 8 Lakh rupees were demanded by the Agha Khan Hispital. Nobody carries 8 Lakhs in cash and they don’t take credit cards. This is an amazing money making scam. It is amazing how educated people can’t see this as what it is a scam
This is not my faith nor did I know anything about it...until I found a job post for Aga Khan. I research before I apply and lo' and behold this is one of the post that came up. This is so gooood, like a drama series. Great job...I'm going to enjoy this entire series. BTW, I just looked Aga Khan up...he doesn't look "imanish" he just looks like a rich white dude with an accent. Hmmm, the 1% elite through 'faith'...well their hands are everywhere why not in faith practices. Thanks for sharing your story and the story of so many who can't speak.
I'm new to this subject, but if Karim Aga Khan is an Imam and has been in this role for a long time - then he does represent another "link," as you say, on the chain of Imams. His very position as such in reality is proof of his identity. Isn't it so? Imam is a spiritual guide. Hasn't Karim Aga Khan delivered spiritual guidance? That's the ultimate criteria for evaluating someone in a position to provide spiritual guidance - is whether they have been successful in providing it. And if they have, then they are a "descendent" regardless of whether you can establish some direct lineage by birth. The lineage in this case is established by the very fact of man's BEINGNESS in the world. If he was not born to be an Imam and was not approved by the Lord Almighty for such a position, then he would never be able to be an Imam and occupy such position of immense responsibility.
The religion of Islam was completed (read chapter 5 verse 3) , there is no need for an imam. Read the Quran and you will see how the shia scholars, etc are fooling gullible shias.
@@alishaimran424 when you go to school what is the need for a teacher if they give you the text book? just study and show up on the day of the exam do you see how flawed your thinking is?
As per my experience which is onpaper also, that there is no Humanity in AKDN/Ismailism. Please see in google By type "Hasamukh Vadasariya & Agakhan" Thanks...
May ALLAH Kareem protect you and your loved ones from all ILLS and EVILS and May HE help you in all respect to complete your mission. Aameen You are God chosen to do this formidable job of differentiating between Right and Wrong. My sincere prayers are with you.
Salim Bhai Salamat Rahain. Allah Pak ap ko khush rakhay. Regards from Hyderabad Sindh. I saw you first time on Akber Khoja,s channel. Subscription has been done
Notice the Aga Khan (whose mother was English) the clan never marries in their on tribe...ie.. the Ismailis...oh no they want to stay white and only marry white.
My life, wealth and children are dedicated for the love of Mowla. No one can separate Imam from the Murids. 12.5% is nothing, I am willing to sacrifice much more than that for Allah's appointed Imam. Allah's command is to follow the prophet and his progeny and whoever does it is guaranteed the path to success. Money will not come with me, but the submission to the will of Allah (love and obedience of the Messenger and Imam) will surely be with me on the day of judgement.
Amazing series. Just to clarify, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) had appointed Imam Ali (AS) as His Rightful Successor in front of more than 100,000 Muslims returning from the Hajj Pilgrimage, at the site of Ghadeer Khumm, in His Final Sermon *before* His death, from a pulpit built from the saddles/litters of camels, so that He could be seen and heard clearly by all. The Prophet (PBUH) not only announced this verbally and loudly, but, by the Will of Allah swt, He LIFTED Imam Ali (AS) up into the air, to make sure that everyone, INCLUDING ALL THE COMPANIONS (RA) WHO WERE PRESENT, was completely clear on this announcement. This event is the most widely narrated in Islam, unanimously, within all Schools of Faith, both Sunni and Shia, but was quashed and hidden by those who had their own misfortunate, rebellious agenda after the death of the Prophet they claimed to follow and revere. They left Him unburied for three days while they squabbled between themselves over the leadership, in a gathering known as Al-Saqeefa. There was no such thing as Sunni-Shia at that time, one was either with the Prophet or against Him. And these particular fellows went against Him, and martyred Fatima, the beloved Daughter of the Prophet and Her unborn son, Mohsin, when they tried to force Imam Ali to pledge allegiance and give obeisance to Abu Bakr, by burning the door of the Blessed House of Ali and Fatima, and forcing it open, causing Fatima to become trapped between the door and the wall, a nail piercing Her side, and the force of the blow causing the death of Mohsin inside Her womb, after which they tied, beat and dragged Imam Ali (as), the Lion of God, out of the house.
Assalamu alaikum be careful of this man in his old youtube Channel he subscribed to channels that insulte Islam and our Noble Prophet, May Allah grant Him Peace and Blessings. He might say things that are true but they remain tainted by what he may still have in his heart...
@@cosm8927 yes. He can Believe in whatever he wants to Believe in but he should maybe better state it if he wants to talk about his past belonging to this sect.
What is the difference between Islamand Ismaili,at the time of Mahammad paigambar or hazarat Ali,then how develop Ismail community,Do you not think it is claim that they are the successor of hazarat Ali and paigambar.Need more research on it.Islam is Islam shiya sunni are also belong to Islam then why differences are their.
Very nice research sir . I want to thank you for bringing this to the masses . However , i would like to correct you on one thing that abu bakar was not chosen by majority of muslims . He was declared a caliph in a tiny gathering of less than 10 people in an event known as saqifa at a time when the prophet’s body was not even buried. Later on his khilafa was imposed upon the rest of the public
Such a big lie of fake Imam Agakhan claiming the descendant of Prophet (SAWS). Prophet was an Arab Quraish tribe. Both the Agakhans are Iranian non-Arabs. They are Persian-Farsi speaking similar to Pashtun and Sindhi. They can not speak a word of Arabic language. So how can they be from the Arab family?
Saleem lalani you have to read little bit more i dont know your sect if you are sunni than your 1st ameer is mawayia please read the history of ameer mawiya or you are the twelvers than you know two imams àre not possible in one time if imam jaffer sadiq appointed ismail how ismail die in a life of jaffer sadiq than imam is not appointed by god why shia people believing that imam knows every thing about universe check it out you made mistake somewhere
@@salimlalani Whether you are an ismaili or not, there should always be a level of respect and I congratulate you for remaining dignified and I really look forward to working my way through the series. I must say though, whilst your aim is to put across arguments to discredit the ismaili faith specifically, on a philosophical point of view, if you look hard enough other such things can indeed be argued for other faith systems out there too. (Some ex Ismailis who have converted to Sunni Islam who then preach to the world that they now follow the 'right' Islam, in my mind can be just as tunnel visioned as the group they were leaving) For me it comes down to the pros vs the cons of what institutionalized religion brings, something I personally have never been a fan of - however I can also be inspired for the good they DO bring in this world too. Only one thing I would like to defend is the concept of Ismailism being a cult - FLDS , Scientology, any sect that trap an individual against the betterment of that individual would be a cult. If you've had experience of these sort of people, then I think you may go back and choose different wording, from my own experience of the Ismailis in 2021.
Zahir noor is in form of panjantan paak .. that is hazrat nabi Mohammad(a.s), harat ali (a.s), harat bibi fatima(a.s), hazrat hasan(a.s) and hazrat hussain (a.s)
@@rajup1445 A verse in Quran says that Obey Allah Muhammad PBUH and those who are progney means the descendents, Aga Khan is currently the Iman and connected to family of Hazrat Ali Ra
The people didn't choose. It was decided at the gathering of Saqeefa, by Umar and a few others, while the Prophet (PBUH)'s body lay waiting to be buried for three days.
My name is Amir - I'm not an aalim (knowledgeable) 1) Faith is believing in something where your common sense tells you not to. 2) Salim - you're not convinced that Aga Khan is direct descendant of Holy Prophet Mohammed - Why then you talk against him - what is your purpose? 3) I agree that in Ismaili faith there are not any or many Aalims who can explain Ismailism to the followers, I myself has asked questions but get no answer from any missionaries, especially the meaning of name of ALLAH "AD DAAR" means "THE ONE WHO MAKES YOU DESPONDENT". 4) The ayatollah in Iran who wear black head covering also claim that they are direct descendant of Holy Prop. Mohd. Maybe they are wrong too? 5) Have you ever experienced a trip to Jannat even for less than 3 seconds? 6) You said you prefer - or choose - Dozak (in EPI 1) after death than in this world. Is it possible that the 1st level of Jannat is worst than Dozak? Because this world is Dozak for our souls.
Dear Amir Firstly, no one is an aalim. Only is allah is all knowing. so you are good. Purpose of my campaign against Agakhan is very clearly explaied in epi 1. pls revisit. Lastly, I dont think i said i prefer dozakh Regards Salim
@@salimlalani Yes I will revisit - you'd mentioned about your friend who had hard time taking care of his family but was staunch about dashond.... BTW I'm not looking for any argument because there is no finite answer in this matter. I stopped going to JK at least 5 yrs ago but do my religious duty - Dua / Dashond, Bandgi, so I go to JK mostly to give Dashond. Some Khojas have stopped talking to me or ignoring me and turn their back to me because of "I DON'T BELIEVE 'HI' AS GOD. I don't even understand why some Khojas say this. One Khoja says "what type of Ismaili you are - you don't believe that HI is ALLAH?". Ignorant! but my faith in HI is staunch and in the name of one of our Imam, I've helped a few people to ease their bodily pain - May ALLAH forgive me for saying this. If your chat is interesting, rational and neat I will love to chat with you. By no means I'm trying to convince you about anything and not even looking for an aggressive chat! Just neat / clean chat. Perhaps I will learn something from you.
@@stampmaker9384 Dear Amir You seem to be very confused. On one hand you say he is NOT God, on the other you say you faith is staunch!! it is obvious you dont understand your own faith. According to Agakhan cult, Imam is God. Pls watch my series again for evidence. Salim
@@salimlalani That is Ignorance - he has never claimed to be God. My faith is staunch about Aga Khan being from line of Hz Ali - cannot prove it though! You say he is not God and I also say the same. My next reply will be a bit late, I'm at work - I live in TO.
Just for curiosity I want to ask. Is current Ismaili Agha khani Imam truly descendant of Hazrat Ali? I am from India and read in Urdu books that fatimi Caliphs forged genealogy in their favour to rule over people. And current Agha khani Imam is also not actually descendant of fatimi khulfa as well. What your research says?? How many episodes will be there in your current series?
If Agakhan cannot be a descendant of the prophet, he cannot be a descendant of Imam Ali. Because Agakhan claims his ancestry from the prophet via Imam Ali. In relation to Fatimid Khulfa, please watch the video again Last Khalif on Agakhans list was imam mustan sir whose son was Nizar Now Nizars descendants were never found. So yes Agakhan could not be the descendant of Fatimid khulfa either. Salãh thank you for your interest. Pls share the channel Thanks
@@realmulim Ismaili history is not a separate topic. Human history is common for all. Ismaili present imam is not true descendant of prophet Muhammad, neither he is descendant of fatimi khulfa of Egypt. These imam is from descendant of dai in qila alamout who was founded by Hassan Sabbah. So you can say current aghakhani are followers of Hassan Sabbah, not the prophet Muhammad.
@@realmulim this youtuber is not the first person ever I am ever referring to for the history. I have read many books on history written by Indian/Persian/English writers. Bdw. What is the proof Agha khan has to prove that he is descendant of prophet. If I agree that he is ex and will definitely go gainst his ex. then you are also the follower of agha khan and you will try to defend him. Your claim is also false.
@@realmulim You first tell your source which is available online. Don't quote some source which is only recognise by some people of your own faith and that too couldn't newer the questions.
As per my experience which is onpaper also, that there is no Humanity in AKDN/Ismailism. Please see in google By type "Hasamukh Vadasariya & Agakhan" Thanks...
@@salimlalani "AD" means "Anno Domini" which is Latin for "In the year of our lord" which is a Christian reference to their belief that Jesus is the son of God. It does not mean "after death".
A very well detailed video. It might be of interest of you to know that Musta'ali-Ismaili Shias today are present and are more pupularly known as Dawoodi Bohras currently lead by Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. He is not an imam by any means but a Dai (second in command) while Imam is in hiding.
Salim, I’ll put in my thoughts and opinions, please allow. Your research & analysis on the Ismaili religion(not cult), is biased. Your conclusions from the historical events are incorrect. Your understandings and interpretations from Ginans are inaccurate. One example is that Imam is not considered as the deity Allah, He is the noor (light), the guide, and the gateway to Allah. Undoubtedly it’s clear from all your videos, that because of your anger and frustration, you are trying to spread misconceptions, misinterpretations & misjudgments. You are only exploiting the online informations and trying to monetize on it. You left out and missed out the inner esoteric meanings and deep symbolic understandings. You didn’t seek, find and see the truth. Your research is incomplete and mostly on the exoteric side, one example is that you didn’t explore into the du’a meaning. you probably reached the tariqat, but you never touched the haqiqat. You have preset notions and analogies that you are desperately trying, stretching, and failing to prove & appeal. No doubt that only Truth prevails. Good luck
In a yogic tradition, which Isamilism is too, a disciple sees brahma(the creator) & vishnu(creation) in his/her guru. It is nothing wrong and new. It's yogic tradition and Islam is a yogic tradition also, because even Allah is a deity A-illah which means "The Illah".
When you say Jesus Christ was crucified. Qur'an (4:157) And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
The Shiane Ali were there During The Pro Time When Umar refused to give pen and paper to Pro .They Didn’t even wait to gTo burry the Pro Only Shia me Ali did Pro Ghusal Kafan
Asalaaam u alaikum Firstly i do not count Agakhanis as Muslims they are not NO second you said Jesus Christ was crucified in Jerusalem you are wrong he is still alive he was not crucified according to our belief and the holy Quran says so please only talk about your Agakhan
In 2005 there was a international Islamic conference in Amaan Jordan there His highness Agakhan send his representative with the message in which he introduced himself as direct descendant of Hazrat Ali and bibi Fatima for this nobody has objected till the date so if you don’t believe then that’s your problem
Islamic leaders don’t have a problem with anyone being a descendant of the prophet There are millions of sayyads in the world who openly say the same thing
Then why not a single Sayyed or ulema or mowlana head of their respective firkas introduce as direct descendent in that conference which was held in a Muslim country
Sorry raju I started writing and hit send button I don’t have time to argue with you If you don’t like my work you don’t have to watch it Hope that is reasonable
@@salimlalani if you see my previous comment it should be clear. In all honesty the videos are brilliantly researched and superbly narrated. You seem to have a natural talent. Keep it up
nopes. the 12th Imam was present at the fineral prayers of his father, the 11th Imam. then later on went into occultation after informing the disciples.
@@saliksayyar9793 The Twelvers 12th Imam is different to the Ismaili 12th Imam. Both "turned up", but the Ismaili one died and the one who is actually descended from Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is in occultation, as decreed by Allah swt, to reappear at His Will and appointed time. He is yet to return, just like Prophet Isa/Jesus (P).
Dear , You already said first 7 imams were assainated so why you think imam ismail should appear again for his own assassination . We choose not to fight multiple times. But most of people haven't got it. So continue your research it won't change anything. You are just researching a valid reason for your conversion. 😀
imam hussain and hassan were twins Also hadrat Ali RA was the fourth khalifa after which shia was eventually made into existance and not when our beloved nabi returned to our creator He was khatm anbiya and no revelations came hence no khalifa cud take his place except in leadership
No, They (AS) weren't twins! Where on earth did you get that idea? Imam Ali (AS) was declared as the Successor and Rightful Leader of the Muslims by the Prophet (SAWW) Himself at the event of Ghadeer Khumm!
Imam sultan Mohamed shah has said in one of his firman that he is God in 1903. Ismailis worship their imam as God (astragufulla) and the evidence is in their own prayer book.
We, the Twelvers (Isna Asheri), believe that Imam Hasan AS was the second Imam after Moula Ali. The Agha Khanis believe Imam Hussain to be the second Imam, which leads us to a question which Agha Khanis must answer, if Imam Hussain was the second Imam, then why was Imam Hasan AS handling the matters of the treaty with Muawiyah? If Imam Hussain was the second Imam, then all the dealings with Muawiyah should have been supervised by him, Not by Imam Hasan. Will any Agha Khani answer this question.
Imam Hasan (AS) was an Imam. I don't know why you all don't actually check facts before writing stupid comments. He is in the Ismaili Du'a , but he is an Imam Mustawdy which means that his children cannot have the Imamat which is true even in Ithna Asheri context. Imam Hussain's (AS) son became the Imam. We Shias should all be united against these fallacies but unfortunately we aren't. Even after the Amman conference included Ithna Asheris and Ismailis both a part of the Ummah (if you didn't know) we are still fighting.
Hazrat umar made majlis shora which appointed hazrat usman after death of hazrat usman and hazrat ali majlis shora appointed hazrat hasan as a caliph took part in every work
Pro on his last Hajj said Ali is with Quran And Quran is with Ali This is no lie And Iam leaving Two things with you Quran And My Progeny and it is you people Changed it to Quran and Hadith Tead your Bukhari
Only on your death bed will you know who is Shah Karim. Then you won’t be able tell the world who really the Aga Khan is. If he declares himself GOD and does miracles to prove who he is, then the world will follow him, but he never does that. He leaves it up to his creation to believe him and follow his teachings. He doesn’t need to prove his powers so you could follow him. He needs unconditional followers. “IMAN” in him will get you to salvation. He will allow you to rise higher and higher in your quest to discredit him, but the higher you rise, the harder you will fall. Just watch it.. His grandfather has said that he is not your body Doctor, you have to look after your own Body and your own worldly affairs.If you fail in life, don’t blame him. Don’t ask him physically to help you. He is your spiritual Doctor, will guide your soul to the right path, if you follow his teachings.
If Imam hassan was to be the next Imam after Hazrat Ali, what happen to the Imamat, why did it stopped?. Our Prophet said that Quran and Imamat will remain together until the end time. Our Imam is present and will continue until the end time.
My comments may be long, but worth the time of readers who also appreciate pondering at both sides of a coin, metaphorically speaking. Salim Lalani's presentations appear to be respectful to the subject matter. And they likely appear to have good intentions behind them. However, his efforts involving his personal subjective interpretations on Aga Khan, have to be interpreted with both an open mind, and also as an act of his personal sincerity to others; if it has to have any educational and positive benefits. As a practicing Shia Ismaili Muslim myself, who is also a murid of the Murshid of the Ismaili Muslims tariqa; it is understandable that some of the Ismaili Muslims practises "may appear" to be misunderstood at the surface. However, the essence of these practices are very much consistent with the spirit of Islamic concept of Tawhid that blends in "seamlessly with the esoteric practices" of the pluralistic and mosaic of traditions without diluting the essence of Tawhid itself. Many of these traditions have found home with the Shia Ismaili Muslims. Also, some of these traditions on their own accord and free will, have historically chosen to show their affection with either material gifts, monetary gifts or affective poetries to the Ismaili Imam of time. This mosaic of pluralistic cultures historically, have integrated without any compulsion or force of any kind, into the Shia Ismaili Muslim tariqa upon their acceptance of the Ismaili Imam of time. Examples of traditions that make up the mosaic are: 1) The practice of Murshid-Murid relationship, compliments of Sufism tradition. 2) The Central Asian practices, compliments of Nasir Khusrav tradition. 3) The practices of Satpanthi Khojas, compliments of Satpanth tradition from the Indian sub-continent. 4) The practices of Arab Muslims, compliments of Middle Eastern traditions. 5) Etc. Without any doubt, the Shia Ismaili Muslims Constitution is the guiding document on the core doctrine of Shia Ismaili Muslims. The said constitution is approved by the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam of the time, and clearly articulates the following as a minimum: 1) The Ismaili Muslims core doctrine of the Tawhid, which is the belief in one God none other then Allah. 2) The historical and traditional references to the beginning of Imamat institution. 3) The role and the authority of the Imamat evolving not only as the Imam of time, but also implied as the Murshid of his murids. 4) No formal requirement whatsoever, of the need of material or monetary contributions, by Ismaili Muslims to their Imam. 5) Many other relevant facts. It is therefore imperative, that the Shia Ismaili Muslims doctrine and their faith practices should be understood from the focal point of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution. And it should be read in the full context basis and not on cherry picked basis. Otherwise, it has a serious potential to be misunderstood and misconstrued. As a benefit to all the interested readers, a very important message: If any member of the Ismaili tariqa, the tariqa's secondary leadership or any other person who intentionally interprets the Ismaili Muslims faith and it's core beliefs other then as articulated in the guiding document of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; such a member, the secondary leadership or the person is not only misrepresenting the facts as intended; but is also doing a great dis-service to the Ismaili faith in general and the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam in particular. The later also being referred to as the current Aga Khan.
Ali bhai, with all due respect I disagree with your arguments in defending the institution of Imamat. Here is my response to your arguments 1. Aga Khan, after he arrived in India did impose authority over Khoja community. There are many historical references and court cases available to review. You may refer and read court proceedings involving Aga Khan during British rule in India. Please refer to Ismaili Dua which was recited in Jamat Khanas before 1957. Imam was called to be Mahesh, Brahma and Vishnu (worshipped in India as gods) and of course Ali Sahi Allah (Ali true god) Aga Khan III even claimed in a Farman made in Zanzibar in 1899 that the current Quran is incomplete and he had the actual copy of Quran. Check the attached farman if you can read Khojki ibb.co/N9pR8N3 But this is irrelevant, what actually matters is even if they did not impose their authority, how does it make them equal to Allah (SWT)? No Ismaili can deny the fact that in JamatKhana Ismailis raise their hand and call out to Aga Khan to forgive their sins, give barakah in earnings (rozi ma barkat) and so on whereas Quran clearly states that our Prophet (PBUH) is Bashir and Nazeer (one who brings goods news and warns). Do you have any example during the time of Prophet Muhammad that Muslims used to raise their hands and ask him to forgive their sins in his absence? Or do you have any verse from Quran supporting such action? 2. For the sake of argument even if I accept your argument #2, how do you explain the absence of Imam Hasan from the list of Ismaili Imams. Ismaili Imamat history establishes that Ismailis and Twelvers Shia (Itha Asharis) were one community until Imam Jaffer Sadiq. According to the Ismaili history the split occurred after the death of Imam Jaffer Sadiq. At what point in history one community decided that Imam Hasan was Imam and other community decided that Imam Hasan was not Imam. 3. No comments, any community can have their own set of rules. 4. There is no denial that Ismailis are successful as a community. But most of the Ismailies are unable to understand the cost they are paying to achieve economic success. If success in life is to be measured by economic success than no doubt Ismailies are successful but there is more to life than economic success. Ali Bhai whatever you believe, it is none of my business but I request you to study Quran and then justify Ismaili beliefs in the light of Quran.
Amyn Pabani, your comments are very courteous, respectful and appreciated. Thank you kindly. Since you have directly asked me, I am therefore hoping that the following response may offer you some answers: 1) We can always respectfully agree to disagree. After all, that is the beauty of subjective interpretations of our perceptions. 2) Considering that RUclips comments section is not necessarily an appropriate forum to engage into a back and forth discussion; I will therefore, respectfully refrain from doing that. 3) Yet your questions are valid and your point of view has many merits. They surely deserve to be answered. For that, may I refer you to the constitution of the Shia Ismaili Muslims? It may not have specific or all answers to your questions; but very likely, you may find some answers therein. Alternatively, it may lead you to an appropriate authorised channel that can provide you with some specific answers.
@@Kassam786 Ali bhai, thank you for your response. 1. I agree 2. 1 agree that this is not the platform to engage in back and forth discussion. However, when I saw your comments and I thought that readers would be better served when they see arguments from both sides. 3. Been there done it. I was a staunch defender of the same narrative that you have been trying to defend now. One day I thought that I must read Quran so that I can support my arguments with references from Quran and that changed everything. Allah (SWT) calls Quran as Furqan - the criteria of right and wrong. I urge you and the readers to study it and then decide for themselves. Wasalam
@Amyn Pabani, your respectful response is once again, much appreciated. As mentioned earlier, while my intention is to refrain from back and forth discussion, nonetheless, your polite response has been an incentive for me to add my closing comments. It is a long comment, but surely, worth your time. With regards to Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution, when you say "been there done it", I can safely interpret that you have read the constitution in it's entirety. Such being the case, you may have also confirmed by your own reading that the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; as approved by the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam of the time, is a guiding document that clearly articulates the following as a minimum: 1) The Ismaili Muslims core doctrine of the Tawhid - which is the belief in one God none other then Allah. 2) The historical and traditional references to the beginning of Imamat institution. 3) The role and the authority of the Imamat evolving not only as the Imam of time, but also implied as the Murshid of his murids. 4) Many other very relevant facts. The traditional function and authority of the Murshid in Ismaili Muslims tariqa is comparable to any other Islamic Sufi tariqas. Meaning, it also involves a spiritual bond between the Murshid and his murids upon satisfying certain requirements such as a bayah. It is therefore, imperative that the constitution should be read in the full context basis and "not on cherry picked basis" as mentioned earlier. Otherwise, it has a serious potential to be misunderstood and misconstrued. And for the benefit of all the interested readers, very important message: If any member of the Ismaili tariqa, the tariqa's secondary leadership or any other person who intentionally misinterpret or misrepresent the Ismaili Muslims faith and it's core beliefs other then as articulated and intended in the guiding document of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; then such a member, the secondary leadership or the person is doing a great dis-service to the Ismaili faith in general and the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam in particular. The later also being referred to as the current Aga Khan.
The Light of the Imam by Jim Davis Ultimately there is only Reality (Allah): it is beyond creation and non-creation; it is beyond life and death; it is beyond the infinite and the finite; it is beyond knowledge and ignorance; it is beyond pleasure and pain; it is beyond heaven and hell; it is beyond nirvana and samsara it is beyond the One and the many; and yet the Real can be known. From the very beginninglessness the Real has shown its Light and that Light manifested itself in the world of form. From Imam Adam to Imam Karim Aga Khan IV there has never been a time when this world was without the Light. The Imam’s Light reaches out and sparks up the divine light within. Light upon Light and so we are raised up, awakening into Reality
That's nice but my family have given Aga Khan big money based on believing that he is literally God. I want a refund but I fear the money has been spent on mega yachts and mistresses. So what am I to do? Is your poem meant to be comforting for me?
If you do not believe in someone. Why spending your time, to me it's not clear this matter. People normally follow a lead, my suggestion is to study more, achive a title in any Islamic field. Thanks
Don't misguide mankind. No need for any imam. Only worship Allah instead of a man like you. Worshipping and praising any imam is the worst form of polytheism, as mentioned in the glorious Koran.
Sister. Prophet Muhammad pbuh did not choose a Caliph explicitly. Abu Bakr RA was chosen through Ijma. There is no doubt that Abu Bakr RA was a righteous caliph, but there is no proof that Prophet Muhammad pbuh explicitly chose Abu Bakr as a caliph. There are hints available that point towards Abu Bakr yes, there are also hints available that point towards Ali RA. But nothing of it was explicit. Also, this hadith from Hazrat Aisha negate the idea that Prophet Muhammad pbuh chose a caliph: Ibn Abu Mulaika reported: I heard `A'isha as saying and she was asked as to whom Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) would have nominated as his successor if he had to nominate one at all. She said: Abu Bakr. It was said to her: Then whom after Abu Bakr? She said: `Umar. It was said to her. Then whom after `Umar? She said: Abu `Ubaida b. al-Jarrah, and then she kept quiet at this. (MUSLIM 2385) The words "whom would he have chosen as his successor if he had chosen one at all" prove that Prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't choose a caliph explicitly.
Ali (AS) was chosen by the Prophet (SAWW) as His Rightful Successor, which He declared openly at Ghadeer Khumm in front of everyone. It's in all of your books.
It is on the believers to prove that there is a creator. Secondly, how was the creator Creatored. If you cannot provide this evidence then forgot it and Cast it away. We don't want your beliefs.
Lmao, are you using the book by Anthony Campbell as a credible source? That book is mostly fictional. Also, I hope people here realize that Akbar Khoja is not even a former Ismaili as he claims to be one. The guy uses an Indian ambassador's photo as his profile picture. These guys usually have some sort of agenda on their mind. Also, Ismailis today are known as Ismailis and not Aga-Khanis lol. Aga Khan is a secular title not a religious title.
It looks like you need to correct your Islamic history dear. The word Shia simply means "follower". No Jew was in Saqeefa when the Prophet (SAWW) died. It was MUSLIMS, so-called friends and Companions of the Prophet, who refused to bury Him for three days while they argued between themselves who will be the leader, when the Prophet had already declared Ali (AS) as the Leader of Muslims after Him at the event of Gadeer Khumm!
It seems you understand history. Could you please teach me and my audience lest we should be guided on the right path Let's arrange a video on your history lecture. Please provide your whats app details and I will organise a time.
@Hans H No he does not have those freedom to talk about people's religion. Every body has their own way and their own freedom to worship their God. He is not allowed to talk about my religion.
In our sunni tradition, that are more credible than any others, the claims of Ali (ra) being the khalifa of the prophet didn't began to spread until the first fitna that killed Othman (ra).
Very detailed and educational. I like that it does not promote hate. I like how respectfully you address everyone. I am 56 and I left Ismailism when I was 18. My quest was to find God and I realized at that young age that the Agha Khan can’t be God. I feel all human beings have a right to choose their own path religion is personal. It is between me and my God. Coming from an Agha Khani family these videos have been extremely educational. Thank you for making the effort and putting this together.
The charity of the Agha Khan was quite visible when to admit my aunt a devoted Agha khani who gave so much of her money to the Agha Khan 8 Lakh rupees were demanded by the Agha Khan Hispital. Nobody carries 8 Lakhs in cash and they don’t take credit cards. This is an amazing money making scam. It is amazing how educated people can’t see this as what it is a scam
Thank you for sharing Kareem
This is not my faith nor did I know anything about it...until I found a job post for Aga Khan. I research before I apply and lo' and behold this is one of the post that came up. This is so gooood, like a drama series. Great job...I'm going to enjoy this entire series. BTW, I just looked Aga Khan up...he doesn't look "imanish" he just looks like a rich white dude with an accent. Hmmm, the 1% elite through 'faith'...well their hands are everywhere why not in faith practices. Thanks for sharing your story and the story of so many who can't speak.
thank you
I'm new to this subject, but if Karim Aga Khan is an Imam and has been in this role for a long time - then he does represent another "link," as you say, on the chain of Imams. His very position as such in reality is proof of his identity. Isn't it so? Imam is a spiritual guide. Hasn't Karim Aga Khan delivered spiritual guidance? That's the ultimate criteria for evaluating someone in a position to provide spiritual guidance - is whether they have been successful in providing it. And if they have, then they are a "descendent" regardless of whether you can establish some direct lineage by birth. The lineage in this case is established by the very fact of man's BEINGNESS in the world. If he was not born to be an Imam and was not approved by the Lord Almighty for such a position, then he would never be able to be an Imam and occupy such position of immense responsibility.
They are self appointed Imam! Birth Rights!! No one else is involved in appointing Imam. Sorry 😞
There is no such thing as Imamat in Islām, as taught by Ismailis and Shias.
The religion of Islam was completed (read chapter 5 verse 3) , there is no need for an imam. Read the Quran and you will see how the shia scholars, etc are fooling gullible shias.
@@alishaimran424 when you go to school what is the need for a teacher if they give you the text book? just study and show up on the day of the exam
do you see how flawed your thinking is?
@@najmu49 As salaam Waleikum!
Has any Ismaili has seen aga khan’s family or extended family coming to jamat khana for prayers? Do aga Khan pray?
i cant believe these Agha Khanis worship a man smh
To me looks like you know everything, I have a question for you. How long you were ismaili for.
Conversions are extremely rare, so most likely for his whole life.
Most of us cannot name our ancestors living more than a few hundred years ago but still we stand here alive as witness that they lived,
execellent vidoe. I hop you and Mr. Arif lallani my fomer bose doing well..
Nb
As per my experience which is onpaper also, that there is no Humanity in AKDN/Ismailism.
Please see in google
By type
"Hasamukh Vadasariya & Agakhan"
Thanks...
May ALLAH Kareem protect you and your loved ones from all ILLS and EVILS and May HE help you in all respect to complete your mission. Aameen
You are God chosen to do this formidable job of differentiating between Right and Wrong.
My sincere prayers are with you.
thank you
Salim Bhai Salamat Rahain. Allah Pak ap ko khush rakhay. Regards from Hyderabad Sindh. I saw you first time on Akber Khoja,s channel. Subscription has been done
Thank you Irfan
thank you
Prophet (PBUH) spread message for 23 years and not 19 years
Notice the Aga Khan (whose mother was English) the clan never marries in their on tribe...ie.. the Ismailis...oh no they want to stay white and only marry white.
They have been Europeans for more than 120 yrs
Amazingly a detailed research of this subject...looking forward to the next episodes..👍
yes i will post a video every week
My life, wealth and children are dedicated for the love of Mowla. No one can separate Imam from the Murids. 12.5% is nothing, I am willing to sacrifice much more than that for Allah's appointed Imam. Allah's command is to follow the prophet and his progeny and whoever does it is guaranteed the path to success. Money will not come with me, but the submission to the will of Allah (love and obedience of the Messenger and Imam) will surely be with me on the day of judgement.
really good to read your comments
That's good. I will post more if I get more time after my finishing my day job.;)
"There is no compulsion in relegion"
Very shockingly revealing and informative. Always was skaptical of Agha Khan, this makes sense.
What so skeptical calling disciple and guru relationship? Its nothing new
Amazing series. Just to clarify, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) had appointed Imam Ali (AS) as His Rightful Successor in front of more than 100,000 Muslims returning from the Hajj Pilgrimage, at the site of Ghadeer Khumm, in His Final Sermon *before* His death, from a pulpit built from the saddles/litters of camels, so that He could be seen and heard clearly by all. The Prophet (PBUH) not only announced this verbally and loudly, but, by the Will of Allah swt, He LIFTED Imam Ali (AS) up into the air, to make sure that everyone, INCLUDING ALL THE COMPANIONS (RA) WHO WERE PRESENT, was completely clear on this announcement. This event is the most widely narrated in Islam, unanimously, within all Schools of Faith, both Sunni and Shia, but was quashed and hidden by those who had their own misfortunate, rebellious agenda after the death of the Prophet they claimed to follow and revere. They left Him unburied for three days while they squabbled between themselves over the leadership, in a gathering known as Al-Saqeefa. There was no such thing as Sunni-Shia at that time, one was either with the Prophet or against Him. And these particular fellows went against Him, and martyred Fatima, the beloved Daughter of the Prophet and Her unborn son, Mohsin, when they tried to force Imam Ali to pledge allegiance and give obeisance to Abu Bakr, by burning the door of the Blessed House of Ali and Fatima, and forcing it open, causing Fatima to become trapped between the door and the wall, a nail piercing Her side, and the force of the blow causing the death of Mohsin inside Her womb, after which they tied, beat and dragged Imam Ali (as), the Lion of God, out of the house.
Amazing and very factual. Well done 👍 Salim Bhai.
Many many thanks
Can you recite any surah from holly Quran?
You doing good work finding the facts, they may make difference in lifes.Thank you.
So nice of you
@@Ms.2012 great comments
thank you Anwar
Salim bhai please ask Aga khan about hs direct relatives of his in Poona India who he nevet recognise them
Salim bhai, may Allah (SWT) reward you for you efforts
Thank you Amyn
Assalamu alaikum be careful of this man in his old youtube Channel he subscribed to channels that insulte Islam and our Noble Prophet, May Allah grant Him Peace and Blessings. He might say things that are true but they remain tainted by what he may still have in his heart...
@@Black-Sun-Reality Finally someone who isn't blind. Good work brother.
@@Black-Sun-Reality salim lalani?
@@cosm8927 yes. He can Believe in whatever he wants to Believe in but he should maybe better state it if he wants to talk about his past belonging to this sect.
What is the difference between Islamand Ismaili,at the time of Mahammad paigambar or hazarat Ali,then how develop Ismail community,Do you not think it is claim that they are the successor of hazarat Ali and paigambar.Need more research on it.Islam is Islam shiya sunni are also belong to Islam then why differences are their.
Very nice research sir . I want to thank you for bringing this to the masses . However , i would like to correct you on one thing that abu bakar was not chosen by majority of muslims . He was declared a caliph in a tiny gathering of less than 10 people in an event known as saqifa at a time when the prophet’s body was not even buried. Later on his khilafa was imposed upon the rest of the public
Thank you Ali
Can I download all your episodes as to my reference?.
Yes but do not share as there is copyright
Such a big lie of fake Imam Agakhan claiming the descendant of Prophet (SAWS). Prophet was an Arab Quraish tribe. Both the Agakhans are Iranian non-Arabs. They are Persian-Farsi speaking similar to Pashtun and Sindhi. They can not speak a word of Arabic language.
So how can they be from the Arab family?
correct
Gairon Pe Karam isn't the right song to use to represent Mecca :)
Asalaamalaikum, how do we get in touch with you privately please
Salaam
what would you like to talk about
@@salimlalani To see if there would be anything I can do to help. I am also an ex ismaili (7 years now)
@@kazino21 pls call me
0011 1 61 426817272
When is your next video coming??
I will try and post one video every Sunday
Saleem lalani you have to read little bit more i dont know your sect if you are sunni than your 1st ameer is mawayia please read the history of ameer mawiya or you are the twelvers than you know two imams àre not possible in one time if imam jaffer sadiq appointed ismail how ismail die in a life of jaffer sadiq than imam is not appointed by god why shia people believing that imam knows every thing about universe check it out you made mistake somewhere
Mr Lalani i salute u....u r so knowledgeable MashaAllah. Thank u for so much research put into video for public info
It's my pleasure
Where is episode 1? You go from introduction to episode 2. Is that correct ?
yes
@@salimlalani Whether you are an ismaili or not, there should always be a level of respect and I congratulate you for remaining dignified and I really look forward to working my way through the series. I must say though, whilst your aim is to put across arguments to discredit the ismaili faith specifically, on a philosophical point of view, if you look hard enough other such things can indeed be argued for other faith systems out there too. (Some ex Ismailis who have converted to Sunni Islam who then preach to the world that they now follow the 'right' Islam, in my mind can be just as tunnel visioned as the group they were leaving) For me it comes down to the pros vs the cons of what institutionalized religion brings, something I personally have never been a fan of - however I can also be inspired for the good they DO bring in this world too. Only one thing I would like to defend is the concept of Ismailism being a cult - FLDS , Scientology, any sect that trap an individual against the betterment of that individual would be a cult. If you've had experience of these sort of people, then I think you may go back and choose different wording, from my own experience of the Ismailis in 2021.
This very useful video is blocked in Pakistan. Is there any alternative, so people in Pakistan can benefit from its contents?
which episode is blocked?
@@salimlalani I shared Episode 2, which they told me is not available. I am not about the rest.
In Koran sura 5 verse 15 says (zahir noor and book is send ) you tell me where is this zahir noor which you can see with your open eyes
Zahir noor is in form of panjantan paak .. that is hazrat nabi Mohammad(a.s), harat ali (a.s), harat bibi fatima(a.s), hazrat hasan(a.s) and hazrat hussain (a.s)
@@rahansurani311 that’s why I ask this to salim lalani where is the zahir noor today who’s holding this noor
@@rajup1445 A verse in Quran says that Obey Allah Muhammad PBUH and those who are progney means the descendents, Aga Khan is currently the Iman and connected to family of Hazrat Ali Ra
@@arandompronoob4760 I know this brother very well but I wanna know this from salim lalani because he is questioning the legitimacy of Agakhan
Hazarat Ismail died While H Jaffer was still alive
The Pro on his last Hajj Pro said He is leaving 2 things 1)Quran and Ahlebait.That is written in Sunni books Too
Ahl bait means house of the prophet. i dont understand how only son in law should be included in that and not his wives
@@MegaBaddog Read Hadith al-Kisaa and you will understand. The Prophet (SAWW) did not speak without the Will of Allah swt.
Mr Salim what do you believe now as Ismaili shia, shia muslim, or sunni muslim
I dont believe anything
He believes in propaganda master and yazeediyet.
@@NajeebUllah-gg3gj this man is lost. I don’t know why people listen to him. I feel sorry for you Salim or whoever you are.
May Allah bless you!! Jazak'Allah!!
Salim bhai.. could you please share ur religious beliefs..are you reverted muslim and do accept Islam as ur religion?
You said after death of prophet, people of Makkah chose Abu bakar. Was it in Makkah or madinah??
My apologies, it was Madina
Thanks for pointing this out
The people didn't choose. It was decided at the gathering of Saqeefa, by Umar and a few others, while the Prophet (PBUH)'s body lay waiting to be buried for three days.
Excellent work!
Thank you
I hope you will help me spread the word
My name is Amir - I'm not an aalim (knowledgeable)
1) Faith is believing in something where your common sense tells you not to.
2) Salim - you're not convinced that Aga Khan is direct descendant of Holy Prophet Mohammed - Why then you talk against him - what is your purpose?
3) I agree that in Ismaili faith there are not any or many Aalims who can explain Ismailism to the followers, I myself has asked questions but get no answer from any missionaries, especially the meaning of name of ALLAH "AD DAAR" means "THE ONE WHO MAKES YOU DESPONDENT".
4) The ayatollah in Iran who wear black head covering also claim that they are direct descendant of Holy Prop. Mohd. Maybe they are wrong too?
5) Have you ever experienced a trip to Jannat even for less than 3 seconds?
6) You said you prefer - or choose - Dozak (in EPI 1) after death than in this world. Is it possible that the 1st level of Jannat is worst than Dozak? Because this world is Dozak for our souls.
Dear Amir
Firstly, no one is an aalim. Only is allah is all knowing. so you are good.
Purpose of my campaign against Agakhan is very clearly explaied in epi 1. pls revisit.
Lastly, I dont think i said i prefer dozakh
Regards
Salim
@@salimlalani Yes I will revisit - you'd mentioned about your friend who had hard time taking care of his family but was staunch about dashond....
BTW I'm not looking for any argument because there is no finite answer in this matter. I stopped going to JK at least 5 yrs ago but do my religious duty - Dua / Dashond, Bandgi, so I go to JK mostly to give Dashond. Some Khojas have stopped talking to me or ignoring me and turn their back to me because of "I DON'T BELIEVE 'HI' AS GOD. I don't even understand why some Khojas say this. One Khoja says "what type of Ismaili you are - you don't believe that HI is ALLAH?". Ignorant! but my faith in HI is staunch and in the name of one of our Imam, I've helped a few people to ease their bodily pain - May ALLAH forgive me for saying this.
If your chat is interesting, rational and neat I will love to chat with you. By no means I'm trying to convince you about anything and not even looking for an aggressive chat! Just neat / clean chat. Perhaps I will learn something from you.
@@stampmaker9384 Dear Amir
You seem to be very confused.
On one hand you say he is NOT God, on the other you say you faith is staunch!!
it is obvious you dont understand your own faith.
According to Agakhan cult, Imam is God. Pls watch my series again for evidence.
Salim
@@salimlalani That is Ignorance - he has never claimed to be God. My faith is staunch about Aga Khan being from line of Hz Ali - cannot prove it though! You say he is not God and I also say the same. My next reply will be a bit late, I'm at work - I live in TO.
@@stampmaker9384 you are ignorant not me.
you are the one who does'nt want to look at the evidence
Salim
Just for curiosity I want to ask. Is current Ismaili Agha khani Imam truly descendant of Hazrat Ali? I am from India and read in Urdu books that fatimi Caliphs forged genealogy in their favour to rule over people. And current Agha khani Imam is also not actually descendant of fatimi khulfa as well. What your research says??
How many episodes will be there in your current series?
If Agakhan cannot be a descendant of the prophet, he cannot be a descendant of Imam Ali. Because Agakhan claims his ancestry from the prophet via Imam Ali.
In relation to Fatimid Khulfa, please watch the video again
Last Khalif on Agakhans list was imam mustan sir whose son was Nizar
Now Nizars descendants were never found. So yes Agakhan could not be the descendant of Fatimid khulfa either.
Salãh thank you for your interest. Pls share the channel
Thanks
@@realmulim Ismaili history is not a separate topic. Human history is common for all.
Ismaili present imam is not true descendant of prophet Muhammad, neither he is descendant of fatimi khulfa of Egypt. These imam is from descendant of dai in qila alamout who was founded by Hassan Sabbah. So you can say current aghakhani are followers of Hassan Sabbah, not the prophet Muhammad.
@@realmulim yes. That is why I m saying to learn from the neutral sources and all sources.
That applies to you as well.
@@realmulim this youtuber is not the first person ever I am ever referring to for the history.
I have read many books on history written by Indian/Persian/English writers.
Bdw. What is the proof Agha khan has to prove that he is descendant of prophet.
If I agree that he is ex and will definitely go gainst his ex. then you are also the follower of agha khan and you will try to defend him. Your claim is also false.
@@realmulim You first tell your source which is available online. Don't quote some source which is only recognise by some people of your own faith and that too couldn't newer the questions.
Muslim Leage was formulated in Dacca in 1906 under the leadership of Nawab Salimulla, Agakhan, &Mohsin-ul-mulk.
Indian National Congress was founded by an English man
@@saliksayyar9793 After the arrival of BJP the INC party became irrelevant in Indian politics.
@@georgesamkutty686 possible, but the current ideology also has its roots in early European culture of fascism
As per my experience which is onpaper also, that there is no Humanity in AKDN/Ismailism.
Please see in google
By type
"Hasamukh Vadasariya & Agakhan"
Thanks...
Your videos are enlightening
Thanks
@@salimlalani "AD" means "Anno Domini" which is Latin for "In the year of our lord" which is a Christian reference to their belief that Jesus is the son of God. It does not mean "after death".
A very well detailed video. It might be of interest of you to know that Musta'ali-Ismaili Shias today are present and are more pupularly known as Dawoodi Bohras currently lead by Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. He is not an imam by any means but a Dai (second in command) while Imam is in hiding.
yes i am aware
Agakhan looks like a European?
Salim,
I’ll put in my thoughts and opinions, please allow.
Your research & analysis on the Ismaili religion(not cult), is biased.
Your conclusions from the historical events are incorrect.
Your understandings and interpretations from Ginans are inaccurate.
One example is that Imam is not considered as the deity Allah, He is the noor (light), the guide, and the gateway to Allah.
Undoubtedly it’s clear from all your videos, that because of your anger and frustration, you are trying to spread misconceptions, misinterpretations & misjudgments. You are only exploiting the online informations and trying to monetize on it.
You left out and missed out the inner esoteric meanings and deep symbolic understandings.
You didn’t seek, find and see the truth. Your research is incomplete and mostly on the exoteric side, one example is that you didn’t explore into the du’a meaning. you probably reached the tariqat, but you never touched the haqiqat.
You have preset notions and analogies that you are desperately trying, stretching, and failing to prove & appeal. No doubt that only Truth prevails.
Good luck
Sir, kindly make a urdu or hindi series. It’s will helps more.
maybe in my retirement when i have more time
Ismail was not missed , he was Salmiya. Please read the history of Bhoras community
Anyway thanks for strengthening may faith to Mawla!
My pleasure!
The problem is that you have abandoned Quran no children goes to madarasa for learning Quran
In a yogic tradition, which Isamilism is too, a disciple sees brahma(the creator) & vishnu(creation) in his/her guru. It is nothing wrong and new. It's yogic tradition and Islam is a yogic tradition also, because even Allah is a deity A-illah which means "The Illah".
Why did abu bakr take over when Muhammad said clearly for Ali to lead the day you figure that out you will have answered all your questions.
Abu bakr will have to answer Allah for this blunder because he knew in his heart he was not to be leader
pls limit your comments to the topic at hand. i will appreciate
No evidence for your claim. A retrospective revision of history
When you say Jesus Christ was crucified.
Qur'an (4:157)
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
You are right
According to Islamic belief he was never crucified
The Shian e Ali party appeared at the end of the caliphate Caliph Uthman (ra) not at the time of Abu Bakr (ra)
Nope they appear at the time of prophet dead..
The Shiane Ali were there During The Pro Time When Umar refused to give pen and paper to Pro .They Didn’t even wait to gTo burry the Pro Only Shia me Ali did Pro Ghusal Kafan
@@lailakurji1350 nicely explained .God bless u and all shias of Ali..
Very simple all of the khalifah followed the Quran & sunna.
Hi Salim, You converted to twelver Shia from ismaili?
i dont subscribe to any faith based system
Thanks for the enlightening about the “missing link” of Ismail. More information needed about the 1977 set up regarding institution/research
Asalaaam u alaikum
Firstly i do not count Agakhanis as Muslims they are not NO
second you said Jesus Christ was crucified in Jerusalem you are wrong he is still alive he was not crucified according to our belief and the holy Quran says so please only talk about your Agakhan
Ismailis are 100% Muslim.
Sorry .i cant understand you
If you believe in the quraan and read it.it tells you not ti commit shirk.yet 9nly after 55 years you now realize
Excellent
In 2005 there was a international Islamic conference in Amaan Jordan there His highness Agakhan send his representative with the message in which he introduced himself as direct descendant of Hazrat Ali and bibi Fatima for this nobody has objected till the date so if you don’t believe then that’s your problem
Islamic leaders don’t have a problem with anyone being a descendant of the prophet
There are millions of sayyads in the world who openly say the same thing
Then why not a single Sayyed or ulema or mowlana head of their respective firkas introduce as direct descendent in that conference which was held in a Muslim country
@@rajup1445 because they are poor peop
Sorry raju
I started writing and hit send button
I don’t have time to argue with you
If you don’t like my work you don’t have to watch it
Hope that is reasonable
@@salimlalani sure I will not argue and leave you with your shallow understanding god bless you
This men not mentioning.peace be upon him.on prophet name
Second.he.not.mentionsing.sahaba.name.after.(R.A)Radey,Allaho.unho.
Many, Many and Many Ismailis Don’t do that, because they have never never been taught to do so. I was the same until I started leaning towards Islam.
Need to correct your information.
Master story teller
Parwez my friend
Is this a compliment or a taunt?
@@salimlalani if you see my previous comment it should be clear. In all honesty the videos are brilliantly researched and superbly narrated. You seem to have a natural talent. Keep it up
@@aiztarxxx thank you parwez. People like you keep me going
Very informative.. thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
My pleasure 😊
The AD is anno domini and not after death
Thank you
You never said anything about the fatemid caliphate
because it is not part of the other side of Agakhan.
Shukar Alhamdulellah we are ismaili muslim agakhan is our 49th imam and we are true Muslims thans Allah 🤲🤲🤲
The 12th Imam also never turned up. So the same explanation used for Ismail’s absence was used for the absence of the 12th Imam of the Twelvers.
nopes. the 12th Imam was present at the fineral prayers of his father, the 11th Imam. then later on went into occultation after informing the disciples.
Salukis Sayyar What do you know about. 12thImam He is Imam Mehdi And he will surely Turn up That is our Aqida
What is the basis of your aqeda? The so called 12th imam was never seen. And now in occultation, what is that? Where?
@@saliksayyar9793 he has seen then went to occultation without seeing him using term of occultation for him will be wrong.
@@saliksayyar9793 The Twelvers 12th Imam is different to the Ismaili 12th Imam. Both "turned up", but the Ismaili one died and the one who is actually descended from Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is in occultation, as decreed by Allah swt, to reappear at His Will and appointed time. He is yet to return, just like Prophet Isa/Jesus (P).
Im sorry that was wrong.
Nobody rejected abu bakar in life time and Umar something no one rejected him.
All these came on time of Usman
Dear , You already said first 7 imams were assainated so why you think imam ismail should appear again for his own assassination . We choose not to fight multiple times. But most of people haven't got it. So continue your research it won't change anything. You are just researching a valid reason for your conversion. 😀
thank you for your comments
imam hussain and hassan were twins Also hadrat Ali RA was the fourth khalifa after which shia was eventually made into existance and not when our beloved nabi returned to our creator He was khatm anbiya and no revelations came hence no khalifa cud take his place except in leadership
No, They (AS) weren't twins! Where on earth did you get that idea? Imam Ali (AS) was declared as the Successor and Rightful Leader of the Muslims by the Prophet (SAWW) Himself at the event of Ghadeer Khumm!
All we know Ismailis do not consider Aga Khan a God.
👍
Imam sultan Mohamed shah has said in one of his firman that he is God in 1903.
Ismailis worship their imam as God (astragufulla) and the evidence is in their own prayer book.
We, the Twelvers (Isna Asheri), believe that Imam Hasan AS was the second Imam after Moula Ali. The Agha Khanis believe Imam Hussain to be the second Imam, which leads us to a question which Agha Khanis must answer, if Imam Hussain was the second Imam, then why was Imam Hasan AS handling the matters of the treaty with Muawiyah? If Imam Hussain was the second Imam, then all the dealings with Muawiyah should have been supervised by him, Not by Imam Hasan. Will any Agha Khani answer this question.
Imam Hasan as was also imam but in our spritual concept imam hassan as wa imam a mustwdy this is a difficult to discibe now
Imam Hasan (AS) was an Imam. I don't know why you all don't actually check facts before writing stupid comments. He is in the Ismaili Du'a , but he is an Imam Mustawdy which means that his children cannot have the Imamat which is true even in Ithna Asheri context. Imam Hussain's (AS) son became the Imam.
We Shias should all be united against these fallacies but unfortunately we aren't. Even after the Amman conference included Ithna Asheris and Ismailis both a part of the Ummah (if you didn't know) we are still fighting.
Hazrat umar made majlis shora which appointed hazrat usman after death of hazrat usman and hazrat ali majlis shora appointed hazrat hasan as a caliph took part in every work
In Nizari Ismailism (Aga Khani), Imam Hassan A.S was Mustawada Imam.
Acha pakra ha bhi
By islamic view point jesus ws not crusified
Ali is the Book of God , there is no Haq in this worl;d but Imam of the time .
and there is no bigger lie than this .....my ignorant fellow living in lala land,kindly consult the holy quran
Pro on his last Hajj said Ali is with Quran And Quran is with Ali This is no lie And Iam leaving Two things with you Quran And My Progeny and it is you people Changed it to Quran and Hadith Tead your Bukhari
Awesome.
Only on your death bed will you know who is Shah Karim. Then you won’t be able tell the world who really the Aga Khan is. If he declares himself GOD and does miracles to prove who he is, then the world will follow him, but he never does that. He leaves it up to his creation to believe him and follow his teachings. He doesn’t need to prove his powers so you could follow him. He needs unconditional followers. “IMAN” in him will get you to salvation. He will allow you to rise higher and higher in your quest to discredit him, but the higher you rise, the harder you will fall. Just watch it.. His grandfather has said that he is not your body Doctor, you have to look after your own Body and your own worldly affairs.If you fail in life, don’t blame him. Don’t ask him physically to help you. He is your spiritual Doctor, will guide your soul to the right path, if you follow his teachings.
thank you for providing a great example of a psychological disorder called stockholm syndrome
PLEASE TELL IN GUJARATI
Islam is opposite of secular
If Imam hassan was to be the next Imam after Hazrat Ali, what happen to the Imamat, why did it stopped?. Our Prophet
said that Quran and Imamat will remain together until the end time. Our Imam is present and will continue until the end time.
Please quote the verse from the Quran.
Thanks
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My comments may be long, but worth the time of readers who also appreciate pondering at both sides of a coin, metaphorically speaking.
Salim Lalani's presentations appear to be respectful to the subject matter. And they likely appear to have good intentions behind them.
However, his efforts involving his personal subjective interpretations on Aga Khan, have to be interpreted with both an open mind, and also as an act of his personal sincerity to others; if it has to have any educational and positive benefits.
As a practicing Shia Ismaili Muslim myself, who is also a murid of the Murshid of the Ismaili Muslims tariqa; it is understandable that some of the Ismaili Muslims practises "may appear" to be misunderstood at the surface. However, the essence of these practices are very much consistent with the spirit of Islamic concept of Tawhid that blends in "seamlessly with the esoteric practices" of the pluralistic and mosaic of traditions without diluting the essence of Tawhid itself. Many of these traditions have found home with the Shia Ismaili Muslims. Also, some of these traditions on their own accord and free will, have historically chosen to show their affection with either material gifts, monetary gifts or affective poetries to the Ismaili Imam of time.
This mosaic of pluralistic cultures historically, have integrated without any compulsion or force of any kind, into the Shia Ismaili Muslim tariqa upon their acceptance of the Ismaili Imam of time. Examples of traditions that make up the mosaic are:
1) The practice of Murshid-Murid relationship, compliments of Sufism tradition.
2) The Central Asian practices, compliments of Nasir Khusrav tradition.
3) The practices of Satpanthi Khojas, compliments of Satpanth tradition from the Indian sub-continent.
4) The practices of Arab Muslims, compliments of Middle Eastern traditions.
5) Etc.
Without any doubt, the Shia Ismaili Muslims Constitution is the guiding document on the core doctrine of Shia Ismaili Muslims. The said constitution is approved by the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam of the time, and clearly articulates the following as a minimum:
1) The Ismaili Muslims core doctrine of the Tawhid, which is the belief in one God none other then Allah.
2) The historical and traditional references to the beginning of Imamat institution.
3) The role and the authority of the Imamat evolving not only as the Imam of time, but also implied as the Murshid of his murids.
4) No formal requirement whatsoever, of the need of material or monetary contributions, by Ismaili Muslims to their Imam.
5) Many other relevant facts.
It is therefore imperative, that the Shia Ismaili Muslims doctrine and their faith practices should be understood from the focal point of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution. And it should be read in the full context basis and not on cherry picked basis. Otherwise, it has a serious potential to be misunderstood and misconstrued.
As a benefit to all the interested readers, a very important message: If any member of the Ismaili tariqa, the tariqa's secondary leadership or any other person who intentionally interprets the Ismaili Muslims faith and it's core beliefs other then as articulated in the guiding document of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; such a member, the secondary leadership or the person is not only misrepresenting the facts as intended; but is also doing a great dis-service to the Ismaili faith in general and the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam in particular. The later also being referred to as the current Aga Khan.
Ali bhai, with all due respect I disagree with your arguments in defending the institution of Imamat. Here is my response to your arguments
1. Aga Khan, after he arrived in India did impose authority over Khoja community. There are many historical references and court cases available to review. You may refer and read court proceedings involving Aga Khan during British rule in India.
Please refer to Ismaili Dua which was recited in Jamat Khanas before 1957. Imam was called to be Mahesh, Brahma and Vishnu (worshipped in India as gods) and of course Ali Sahi Allah (Ali true god)
Aga Khan III even claimed in a Farman made in Zanzibar in 1899 that the current Quran is incomplete and he had the actual copy of Quran. Check the attached farman if you can read Khojki
ibb.co/N9pR8N3
But this is irrelevant, what actually matters is even if they did not impose their authority, how does it make them equal to Allah (SWT)? No Ismaili can deny the fact that in JamatKhana Ismailis raise their hand and call out to Aga Khan to forgive their sins, give barakah in earnings (rozi ma barkat) and so on whereas Quran clearly states that our Prophet (PBUH) is Bashir and Nazeer (one who brings goods news and warns).
Do you have any example during the time of Prophet Muhammad that Muslims used to raise their hands and ask him to forgive their sins in his absence? Or do you have any verse from Quran supporting such action?
2. For the sake of argument even if I accept your argument #2, how do you explain the absence of Imam Hasan from the list of Ismaili Imams. Ismaili Imamat history establishes that Ismailis and Twelvers Shia (Itha Asharis) were one community until Imam Jaffer Sadiq. According to the Ismaili history the split occurred after the death of Imam Jaffer Sadiq. At what point in history one community decided that Imam Hasan was Imam and other community decided that Imam Hasan was not Imam.
3. No comments, any community can have their own set of rules.
4. There is no denial that Ismailis are successful as a community. But most of the Ismailies are unable to understand the cost they are paying to achieve economic success. If success in life is to be measured by economic success than no doubt Ismailies are successful but there is more to life than economic success.
Ali Bhai whatever you believe, it is none of my business but I request you to study Quran and then justify Ismaili beliefs in the light of Quran.
Amyn Pabani, your comments are very courteous, respectful and appreciated. Thank you kindly.
Since you have directly asked me, I am therefore hoping that the following response may offer you some answers:
1) We can always respectfully agree to disagree. After all, that is the beauty of subjective interpretations of our perceptions.
2) Considering that RUclips comments section is not necessarily an appropriate forum to engage into a back and forth discussion; I will therefore, respectfully refrain from doing that.
3) Yet your questions are valid and your point of view has many merits. They surely deserve to be answered. For that, may I refer you to the constitution of the Shia Ismaili Muslims? It may not have specific or all answers to your questions; but very likely, you may find some answers therein. Alternatively, it may lead you to an appropriate authorised channel that can provide you with some specific answers.
@@Kassam786 Ali bhai, thank you for your response.
1. I agree
2. 1 agree that this is not the platform to engage in back and forth discussion. However, when I saw your comments and I thought that readers would be better served when they see arguments from both sides.
3. Been there done it.
I was a staunch defender of the same narrative that you have been trying to defend now. One day I thought that I must read Quran so that I can support my arguments with references from Quran and that changed everything. Allah (SWT) calls Quran as Furqan - the criteria of right and wrong. I urge you and the readers to study it and then decide for themselves.
Wasalam
@Amyn Pabani, your respectful response is once again, much appreciated.
As mentioned earlier, while my intention is to refrain from back and forth discussion, nonetheless, your polite response has been an incentive for me to add my closing comments. It is a long comment, but surely, worth your time.
With regards to Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution, when you say "been there done it", I can safely interpret that you have read the constitution in it's entirety.
Such being the case, you may have also confirmed by your own reading that the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; as approved by the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam of the time, is a guiding document that clearly articulates the following as a minimum:
1) The Ismaili Muslims core doctrine of the Tawhid - which is the belief in one God none other then Allah.
2) The historical and traditional references to the beginning of Imamat institution.
3) The role and the authority of the Imamat evolving not only as the Imam of time, but also implied as the Murshid of his murids.
4) Many other very relevant facts.
The traditional function and authority of the Murshid in Ismaili Muslims tariqa is comparable to any other Islamic Sufi tariqas. Meaning, it also involves a spiritual bond between the Murshid and his murids upon satisfying certain requirements such as a bayah.
It is therefore, imperative that the constitution should be read in the full context basis and "not on cherry picked basis" as mentioned earlier. Otherwise, it has a serious potential to be misunderstood and misconstrued.
And for the benefit of all the interested readers, very important message: If any member of the Ismaili tariqa, the tariqa's secondary leadership or any other person who intentionally misinterpret or misrepresent the Ismaili Muslims faith and it's core beliefs other then as articulated and intended in the guiding document of the Shia Ismaili Muslim's constitution; then such a member, the secondary leadership or the person is doing a great dis-service to the Ismaili faith in general and the Shia Ismaili Muslim's Imam in particular. The later also being referred to as the current Aga Khan.
The Light of the Imam
by Jim Davis
Ultimately there is only Reality (Allah):
it is beyond creation and non-creation;
it is beyond life and death;
it is beyond the infinite and the finite;
it is beyond knowledge and ignorance;
it is beyond pleasure and pain;
it is beyond heaven and hell;
it is beyond nirvana and samsara
it is beyond the One and the many;
and yet the Real can be known.
From the very beginninglessness
the Real has shown its Light
and that Light manifested itself in the world of form.
From Imam Adam to Imam Karim Aga Khan IV
there has never been a time
when this world was without the Light.
The Imam’s Light reaches out
and sparks up the divine light within.
Light upon Light
and so we are raised up,
awakening into Reality
That's nice but my family have given Aga Khan big money based on believing that he is literally God. I want a refund but I fear the money has been spent on mega yachts and mistresses. So what am I to do? Is your poem meant to be comforting for me?
Sir. 1600 years have passed only 35 generation will be there
1400 yrs
@@salimlalani correct
@@salimlalani in 1400 years only 28 to 32 generations will take place . around fifty years each generation . how come this is 49 generation
@@shaikhahmedchamanshaikh2670 depends on how many years each Imam spent being an Imam
If you do not believe in someone. Why spending your time, to me it's not clear this matter. People normally follow a lead, my suggestion is to study more, achive a title in any Islamic field. Thanks
you should watch episode 1 again, you will find the answer
Don't misguide mankind. No need for any imam. Only worship Allah instead of a man like you. Worshipping and praising any imam is the worst form of polytheism, as mentioned in the glorious Koran.
Allah hu Akbar. Very simple. If Ismailis can understand. Maybe one day.
Hogwash.
This petty human should not be compared to Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh.
Stop dreaming
hogwash it is
...so much hypothetical..and assumptions...no facts presented..
Abu bakr was chosen as caliph by Prophet Mohammad not by people
Sister. Prophet Muhammad pbuh did not choose a Caliph explicitly. Abu Bakr RA was chosen through Ijma. There is no doubt that Abu Bakr RA was a righteous caliph, but there is no proof that Prophet Muhammad pbuh explicitly chose Abu Bakr as a caliph. There are hints available that point towards Abu Bakr yes, there are also hints available that point towards Ali RA. But nothing of it was explicit. Also, this hadith from Hazrat Aisha negate the idea that Prophet Muhammad pbuh chose a caliph:
Ibn Abu Mulaika reported:
I heard `A'isha as saying and she was asked as to whom Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) would have nominated as his successor if he had to nominate one at all. She said: Abu Bakr. It was said to her: Then whom after Abu Bakr? She said: `Umar. It was said to her. Then whom after `Umar? She said: Abu `Ubaida b. al-Jarrah, and then she kept quiet at this. (MUSLIM 2385)
The words "whom would he have chosen as his successor if he had chosen one at all" prove that Prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't choose a caliph explicitly.
Ali (AS) was chosen by the Prophet (SAWW) as His Rightful Successor, which He declared openly at Ghadeer Khumm in front of everyone. It's in all of your books.
My divine imam is God almighty, creator of all things. We will all perish and only the face God remains.
Are you atheist or beleiver?
It is on the believers to prove that there is a creator.
Secondly, how was the creator
Creatored.
If you cannot provide this evidence then forgot it and
Cast it away. We don't want your beliefs.
@@joedias7946 The Creat-or is not creat-ed. Believe whatever you want. Or don't. Peace.
. Dbral thali. Gitel
आपके अभी कोई भी ऐपिसोङ नही आयगे सलीम भाई
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@हाइ Argade Are you threatening him??
Lmao, are you using the book by Anthony Campbell as a credible source? That book is mostly fictional. Also, I hope people here realize that Akbar Khoja is not even a former Ismaili as he claims to be one. The guy uses an Indian ambassador's photo as his profile picture. These guys usually have some sort of agenda on their mind. Also, Ismailis today are known as Ismailis and not Aga-Khanis lol. Aga Khan is a secular title not a religious title.
yes campbell's book in not credible just like your name
@@salimlalani You sound angry. I'm sorry if I made you upset 🤣
Brother kindly correct your Islamic history
Muslims ummah was united until Ali RA became caliph
It was a Jew's conspiracy behind Shiaism
It looks like you need to correct your Islamic history dear. The word Shia simply means "follower". No Jew was in Saqeefa when the Prophet (SAWW) died. It was MUSLIMS, so-called friends and Companions of the Prophet, who refused to bury Him for three days while they argued between themselves who will be the leader, when the Prophet had already declared Ali (AS) as the Leader of Muslims after Him at the event of Gadeer Khumm!
PLEASE UNDERSTAND HISTORY BEFORE YOU TEACH.
It seems you understand history.
Could you please teach me and my audience lest we should be guided on the right path
Let's arrange a video on your history lecture.
Please provide your whats app details and I will organise a time.
Shut up to talk about Agh khan
@Hans H No he does not have those freedom to talk about people's religion.
Every body has their own way and their own freedom to worship their God.
He is not allowed to talk about my religion.
@Hans H I can report him he can go to jail yes that he is taking about people's religion
No body is allowed to talk about each other's religion.
@@shabnuma7934 oh you poor deluded women, are you brain washed beyond return?
Ganjey kahanian achi banata hai...😆
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Ismailism kahnyon par hi to mabni ha ..
Ap logon ko kahani he lagegi q k Ismailism ko samajhna ap k fehem se balatar hai...
@@AliSohail6haha sach m hmy kaisy pata hoga secret jo h nazr na lagy tmhry angrez imam ko.😁😁
Moti hamesha chupa hua he hota hai..😉