SIMILAR PHRASES IN SILOZI AND SOTHO LANGUAGES 🇿🇦🇿🇲||Bantulanguage

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  • @kasheskobby23
    @kasheskobby23 2 года назад +8

    This language is closely related to Khilobedu a dialect in Limpopo.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад +2

      Wow, glad to know 🇿🇲🇿🇦

    • @kasheskobby23
      @kasheskobby23 2 года назад

      @Duma M Your question is retarded. We living in an interconnected world due to globalization. FYI, I'm half Pedi and half Swati.

  • @imasikumubita8094
    @imasikumubita8094 3 года назад +6

    Yes you will find some people nowadays say "Ki mani" but correct old Silozi grammar is "Ki mañi"

  • @montshomatlala4249
    @montshomatlala4249 2 года назад +15

    Interesting. Though comparison is Sesotho and Silozi here but because Sesotho, Sepedi and Setswana are mutually intelligible languages anyone understanding these languages will follow and enjoy this show. Of course when it comes to Sepedi which has multiple dialects, Silozi seems to be more closer to Khilobedu and even Setlokwa/Sedokwa.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад

      Thank you for following 😊

    • @montshomatlala4249
      @montshomatlala4249 2 года назад +4

      @Duma M i see what you say Duma. Firstly it is derogatory and an act of distain to refer to people as Mapedi they are Bapedi same as Batswana not Matswana, Basotho not Masotho. Just like Batswana and Basotho, Bapedi are not entirely a homogenous group. Amongst them, there are Bakwena, Bakone, Batau, Bakgatla, Bahlaloga, Batlokwa etc with several dialects, cultural attire and diferrent origins. Most common surnames such at Mokwena or Mokoena, Tau, Seroka, Molefe and many more are present among Bapedi. Known warriors, Sekhukhune, Mampuru, Sekwati and Thulare who are actually blood relations, trace their origin to Bakgatla. During some important cultural rituals, the Sekhukhune and Mampuru usually invite Bakgatla from Botswana and North-West Province to play a certain role. Bapedi use totems for instance mine as Matlala is Thlantlhagane (finch bird) and my clan name is Mokone. Some Bapedi, yes trace their origin from Zulu, Venda, Khalanga, Swazi etc. Matlalas do not share common origin with Sekhukhune but most are today under Sekhukhune kingdom..
      And the neighbouring Amandebele tribes in Sekhukhune district and Mpumalanga province though having their own distinctive and language with most of them learning Zulu in school but their cultural practices, wedding and most importantly cultural initiations for boys are done mostly (not entirely of course) in Sepedi, the Sekhukhune version.
      Though closely related to Zulu, there are several words in Ndebele language that are shared with Sepedi and of course Setswana here and there. That is why it is easy for Mopedi to understand IsiNdebele language than SiZulu at firs encounter. Yes even among Bapedi of Sekhukhune are there are those who have been influenced o adopted the AMaNdebele culture here and there.

    • @emmanuelvincentisraelletse5192
      @emmanuelvincentisraelletse5192 Год назад +1

      Montsho also taking Into account batlokwa ba botswana le batokwa have similar fonetics in their dialect....we are more related than we know

    • @mahlareleslielez1504
      @mahlareleslielez1504 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@montshomatlala4249 Ndebele is also devided into two…the Southern and the Northern Ndebele…Bapedi will most likely understand the Northern one (also spoken in Zebediela) coz it has many Sotho or Pedi terms but will struggle hearing the southern one which is actually the original one and more Zulu like

  • @michmbolingaba7310
    @michmbolingaba7310 11 месяцев назад +1

    Because of the great work you are doing, I have directly subscribed to you channel. A DRC 🇨🇩 national here. 🙏💖💖💖👏👏🤝

  • @rubenramaila2977
    @rubenramaila2977 3 года назад +14

    Silozi is more similar to Khilobedu which is widely spoken in Bolobedu in Limpopo. The locals also refer to it as Khilozwi or Silozwi.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад +2

      Wow, interesting

    • @thabisothejane5328
      @thabisothejane5328 3 года назад +2

      Not more than sesotho tho. It's more related to sesotho

    • @rubenramaila2977
      @rubenramaila2977 2 года назад

      @Duma M thanks for that information. Very insightful. On similarity of words, I hear a lot of Solozi words pronounced similar to the Khilobedu words.

    • @ZAR_72
      @ZAR_72 2 года назад +1

      I was about to say that about Khilobedu/Silobedu. It would be interesting to see a Molobedu and Molozi conversing 😁

    • @miliciavanrams1280
      @miliciavanrams1280 2 года назад +1

      @@thabisothejane5328 I think u need to hear Khelobedu 1st then ur mind will be blown by the similarities between the languages.

  • @lebochere
    @lebochere 3 года назад +14

    New subbie here .....thank you for this video where Zambia do they speak lozi? By the way ke mosotho wa matatiele 🇿🇦... this is really is interesting.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад +3

      SILOZI is mainly spoken in the western part of Zambia.

    • @Tebz47
      @Tebz47 2 года назад

      Nah, these two don't sound similar at all, try again

  • @priscillaraboroko6301
    @priscillaraboroko6301 9 месяцев назад +2

    Silozi is similar to Khelobedu, hence we are called balozwi(Balobedu)... Wow this is interesting ❤️❤️

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  9 месяцев назад +1

      Nice to hear💝

  • @sindwakanyimba4711
    @sindwakanyimba4711 3 года назад +8

    I am Lozi, I speak it and wow yeah, the similarities 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад

      Thanks😊

    • @mkhondotshepo5213
      @mkhondotshepo5213 2 года назад +1

      This is very interesting i want visit my fellow brothers, sisters, mother's and father's in Zambia .I love you all from South Africa Limpopo province

    • @tshikaradikotla7850
      @tshikaradikotla7850 2 года назад +1

      Wow I need a lozi friend please. I am south african sepedi speaking

    • @kgakishilegora614
      @kgakishilegora614 Год назад

      Wow your language I can understand it, i'm pedi and speak sepedi which is similar to sotho and tswana. unbelivable.

  • @thabisothejane5328
    @thabisothejane5328 3 года назад +11

    I am a mosotho and I can safely agree that these two languages are indeed similar. Great work, keep feeding us more content like this.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад +1

      Thank you 😊

    • @thabisothejane5328
      @thabisothejane5328 2 года назад +1

      @Duma M dude what the fuck are you talking about 😂😂😂? What are you correcting me about😅? I'm here commenting about the similarities between Lozi and Sotho languages. You got too much anger , relax. You one of those people who think their opinions and narratives are correct. I don't care about your Tswana ass or your assumptions.

    • @xpressivemusic4578
      @xpressivemusic4578 2 года назад

      @@thabisothejane5328 Thabiso this is true, Basotho ke batswana ask the elders around you. Even in seSotho you guys still say "ke eng ka setswana" instead of saying ke eng ka Sesotho. But the easiest it to check the family trees of the Royals kwena -> Kgabo -> Masilo ->Napo -Motebang ->Molemo -> Tsholwane -> Monaheng ->Motloang -> Peete -> Mokhachane -> Moshoeshoe I .... See they all come from kwena who also beget Ngwato(botswana) and Ngwaketsi (botswana) . I too was surprised when I learned this because in grade 4 we were taught about sotho -tswana and therefore we assumed that the sotho came before the tswana where as this is just because the whites moved from the south and met Basotho first. Also the royals know this very well this is why when the boers were trying to kill Mogale he went to live with his long cousin Moshoeshoe I learned about this a few weeks ago. Pretty interesting history. I hope you will take a look at this I know its not the conventional understanding of events that people have

    • @thabisothejane5328
      @thabisothejane5328 2 года назад +1

      @@xpressivemusic4578 dude I'm not disputing that nor am I agreeing , why are y'all making an argument of something that I didn't even partake in? All I said is that these languages are similar 😂😂😂.. you Tswana guys have a problem..
      And no we do not say "ke eng ka setswana". I'm from the free State we do not talk like that , nor have I heard someone talk like that too.

    • @xpressivemusic4578
      @xpressivemusic4578 2 года назад

      @@thabisothejane5328 all good bro, I've heard many of my friends who grew up in Lesotho say that. I'm just saying that he was telling the truth that we are all tswana including bapedi.

  • @pertuniamathabatha904
    @pertuniamathabatha904 3 года назад +12

    Hy, Kela I love your videos all the way from South africa. You should check out Sepedi language, I speak Sepedi similar to Setswana , Sesotho and Silozi. For example the word "speak" in Silozi is "Bulela", while in Sepedi we say "Bolela"

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад

      Thank you 😊💝

    • @kgakishilegora614
      @kgakishilegora614 Год назад

      this is really shocking. i'm pedi and speak sepedi, this is way too similar.

    • @kgakishilegora614
      @kgakishilegora614 Год назад

      Pertunia wa di bona tse ke di bonang, mohlolo o mo golo kudu.😄💯

  • @LilacGlo
    @LilacGlo 3 года назад +2

    hey sis! another amazing video! very informative! keep them coming!

  • @Kampamba
    @Kampamba Год назад +2

    This is absolutely fascinating!!

  • @blacktwomusicafrica423
    @blacktwomusicafrica423 Год назад +1

    Hey africa let's find our pipo and love them 🌹🍂💕

    • @user-bd1yp2lf7j
      @user-bd1yp2lf7j Месяц назад

      Bakoena back in time invading and took over part of Zambia for some time which forced the Zambians to ask aid from their cousins in Mozambique to fight off the Sothos

  • @imasikumubita8094
    @imasikumubita8094 3 года назад +6

    Ms. Kela you are doing a great job, however, there are some corrections we can make here. Correct grammar in Silozi is "Ki mañi" not "Ki mani"

  • @nomuthimasangane801
    @nomuthimasangane801 3 года назад +3

    Thank you keep up the good work

  • @imasikumubita8094
    @imasikumubita8094 3 года назад +6

    "Do you agree" in Silozi is "Wa lumela na?" or "Kana wa lumela?"

    • @ladycoo8825
      @ladycoo8825 3 года назад +2

      in Sepedi its "wa Dumela naa?"

  • @mosalethoba5267
    @mosalethoba5267 3 года назад +3

    Great work

  • @imasikumubita8094
    @imasikumubita8094 3 года назад +5

    Just a small correction or addition. In Lozi we also say "mang" but spelt differently e.g. "mani" with a small bar on top of "n".

  • @siyabulelamlungwana8181
    @siyabulelamlungwana8181 3 года назад +4

    Bulawayo zimbabwe is the only country that has xhosa, sotho, tswana, ndebele , venda zulu the languages we speak here in south africa.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад

      Wow, such similar languages.

    • @siyabulelamlungwana8181
      @siyabulelamlungwana8181 3 года назад +1

      @@kelasdiary Yes, and all are zimbabwe official languages ,just RUclips search xhosas in bulawayo.im xhosa from south africa.i understand sesotho and seTswana, but your lozi is difficult with respect is not that close to sesotho and seTswana.

    • @manyandositenge2542
      @manyandositenge2542 2 года назад +1

      @@siyabulelamlungwana8181 no one has said Lozi is Sotho. The catch here is that the two languages are very closely related. This came about because a Sotho clan (which the locals named "Kololo") migrated to the western part Zambia in the 19th century. They conquered the Luyi/ Luyana and imposed their language on them. In due course a new language (Lozi) consisting mainly of Sotho and some Luyi grammar developed.

    • @siyabulelamlungwana8181
      @siyabulelamlungwana8181 2 года назад

      @@manyandositenge2542 I hear you ,however I still say they are not closely related ,not close .how is possible that I do not understand a word they are saying if they are close to sesotho pedi and seTswana sorry Not close.

    • @tebohokanetsi1007
      @tebohokanetsi1007 2 года назад +3

      @@siyabulelamlungwana8181 if you don't understand and see the similarities, then you are not Sotho,Tswana or Pedi,, I am a Sotho person and I understand Silozi

  • @smodige
    @smodige 2 года назад +4

    All languages are hybrids, there is no such thing as an original language. Sesotho + Luyana = Lozi, Tswana + Xhosa = Sesotho, Zulu + Pedi = Southern Ndebele, Pedi + Venda = Khilobedu, Zulu + Shangaan = Swati, Pedi + Tswana + Tsotsitaal = Spitori etc.

    • @ZAR_72
      @ZAR_72 2 года назад +1

      Tsotsitaal ?😳
      Then pedi and tswana should just not mix 😂😂

    • @miliciavanrams1280
      @miliciavanrams1280 2 года назад

      What about Zulu?.....it seems to be Original which explains their pride n superiority complexity.

    • @smodige
      @smodige 2 года назад +1

      @@miliciavanrams1280 Zulu is a prominent southern Bantu dialect, which evolved from languages of the Benue Congo area. The tribe and its language was taken to the highest level by King Shaka's legendary leadership. According to oral history, Zulu was the name of the ancestor who founded the Zulu royal line in about 1670. Zulu simply means heaven or sky. So Zulu is not original, it was made prominent by it's leaders.

    • @mahlareleslielez1504
      @mahlareleslielez1504 11 месяцев назад

      True…a language forms or evolve when two or more ethnicities or races with different languages meet…Lozi was probably sotho that met some zambian languages and evolved to be whatever it is right now…That’s why Zulu spoken in Gauteng is different from the one spoken in KZN…other languages found in Gauteng are influencing it

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      ​@@smodigeSo true!!! I think there is a lot of education that still needs to taught in South Africa mainly. Many of our people think we bantu people are the natives/original people of SA....and we are not, we moved here.
      The original people of SA are the Khoisan people. The moment we understand that all will make sense...why our languages are interlinked.

  • @senamelamagope9983
    @senamelamagope9983 2 года назад +1

    Great work ⭐

  • @naeemmatshediso9258
    @naeemmatshediso9258 3 года назад +3

    this are basotho people who where pushed by king Shaka during our fight with zulus..

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  3 года назад +1

      😊

    • @itumelengmosailane1192
      @itumelengmosailane1192 2 года назад

      No Shaka didn't attack Basotho he attackes Tsonga people that's why we have Tsonga in Mozambique Sotho are very aggressive by nature which is Tswana and Pedis he decided to attack those people who speak same language as Zulu and Xhosa so he can fight Sothos and Batswana you already know Pedis they always tell you that they fall under the empire of King Sotho remember Ngunis still lack leadership even now they always come to Sotho provinces for livelihood Zulus are ruled by Indians in Durban

    • @abigailnomsamndebele6351
      @abigailnomsamndebele6351 2 года назад

      @@itumelengmosailane1192 Huh, what are you on about, Zulus have a leader. It was Zwelithini Ka Ndaba, he passed on and now it's his son Misizulu Ka Zwelithini.
      The Zulu royal family and it's king is one of the most rich in Southern Africa, the get something like R65 million per year not even the current Sotho king get that amount of money.
      And the other guy is correct, during defeqane/ mfecane, there was a small tribe of Basotho based near KwaZulu in times of Shaka. This tribe was led by a lady/woman called Manthatisi, she has to lead since her son was very young to lead. She took her people all the way to Zambia.
      And Zulus are not led by Indians in Natal please stop your lies. Indians are a minority in Natal, how can they lead the mighty Zulu nation, Wow 😭🤣🤣🤣. Come to where? You are delusional, right now we have problems with Sotho people in South African cities, especially Johannesburg causing problems by thieving. Your Basotho people dig illegally in closed mines and now they also steal cables, lastly they collect scrap metal and plastic around our cities and townships to make money because there are no jobs in Lesotho. Most of your ladies do people's hair to survive and others work as maids.
      Just imagine Zulus or South Africans going to Basotho for help🤔🧐😂😂, this is the joke of the week 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      ​@@itumelengmosailane1192what?????? I'm not even Zulu but what in the world are you talking about?????? You have an issue with Zulu's clearly.

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      ​@@abigailnomsamndebele6351You didn't even need to grace that silly comment with an answer...it's absurd...

  • @tebatsomoleko862
    @tebatsomoleko862 2 года назад +3

    I'm Pedi (also known as Northern Sotho)... I personally think that this people are BaSotho... I might be wrong and I'm here to learn

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад

      Glad to know. 😊

    • @smodige
      @smodige 2 года назад +1

      Pedi does not mean northern Sotho. Sepedi is one of the 30 northern Sotho languages or dialects. The language was simply imposed on everyone by missionaries of the previous regime. It is originally the language of the descendents of paramount chief King Sekhukhune whose heartland is roughly between Tubatse to Lepelle rivers. The rest of northern Sotho people were never ruled by Sekhukhune (e.g. Balobedu). This explains why Sepedi is a minority language on ThobelaFM in Polokwane, a non Pedi area. Even the word 'thobela' is arguably loaned from Khalanga (Kgalaka) for 'dumela'. BTW I'm Pedi.

    • @madimetjamahlatse9270
      @madimetjamahlatse9270 2 года назад +2

      @@smodige pedi is not a minority language.. Its is the most spoken northern sotho language...
      The balobedu aren't many and are mainly found in ga madjadji and so rounding areas...
      In limpopo. Primarily the capricorn, sekhukhune and Waterburg districts it's mainly pedi ppl..

    • @smodige
      @smodige 2 года назад +2

      @@madimetjamahlatse9270 True. I'm not claiming that it's a minority language. I'm simply reminding people that there are other thirty North Sotho languages. And to also correct those who assume that being norhern Sotho automatically makes them Pedi when they are not. Even SABC keeps making this mistake of saying news on TV are being read in North Sotho. It's impossible to speak North Sotho. How do you speak over thirty dialects at the same time? Aowa!

    • @madimetjamahlatse9270
      @madimetjamahlatse9270 2 года назад +1

      @@smodige the vast majority of ppl classified as North sotho r pedi... Sepedi is the main language..
      Weather you ur In gauteng, mpumalanga or limpopo.. The north sotho ppl r nearly always pedi..
      Im from mpumalanga. There is a large pedi community here

  • @lincolnkgomosotho5555
    @lincolnkgomosotho5555 Год назад

    Wagafa wena

  • @dearkhomotjo
    @dearkhomotjo Год назад +3

    I think it would've been more fitting to use the Lesotho 🇱🇸 flag.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  Год назад

      Noted

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      Hayibo....why??????? There are a large population of original Basotho's in South Africa. Hayi I'm refusing, ngeke

  • @ksandrabrandao8471
    @ksandrabrandao8471 3 года назад +3

    Please subtitles in Portuguese

  • @hhbtvkidsshow4355
    @hhbtvkidsshow4355 2 года назад +1

    But the funniest part is asking a lozi to speak Setswana my word🤣🤣🤣years ago I sitting next to this lozi gentleman haha I couldn't stop it because we was singing the same song but did look like he was creating his own version.
    Lozi can stay with batswana speaking community for 400 years and still will never get it right.

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад

      really?.... lol.😂

    • @hhbtvkidsshow4355
      @hhbtvkidsshow4355 2 года назад +1

      You can try your level best trust me maybe you can prove me wrong 🤣🤣🤣

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад +1

      @@hhbtvkidsshow4355 Hehehe😂

    • @Zibiso
      @Zibiso 6 месяцев назад

      Remedy: kunyala fela motswana, peto kufelile.

  • @sefikematseke9781
    @sefikematseke9781 2 года назад +1

    Wowww!! guys 🥺🥺 whites did such a damage by dividing us with boarders

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  2 года назад

      We still have room to reunite💝

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      Yhooo a lot of damage

  • @Roberto97810
    @Roberto97810 2 года назад +2

    Helang mehlolo ke dinoha🇿🇦😊

    • @tebatsomoleko862
      @tebatsomoleko862 2 года назад

      Hahaha 🤣🤣

    • @Afro_Dee_SA
      @Afro_Dee_SA 3 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂...It's so good to know though, right?

  • @jessicamofokeng9466
    @jessicamofokeng9466 Год назад +1

    I just bumped into thos this video I found it funny because you pronounce sesotho words the way you pronounce lazi words 🤣. And for future reference babe in sesotho we don't say "o but U" plural of "U is oe" and there is no "D" in sesotho it is "L". Otherwise this was a good video 😉

  • @catherinesikazwe86
    @catherinesikazwe86 2 года назад +7

    The language is one. Malozi failed to pronounce the words in the same way that Basotho do. Remember malozi are maluyana. They used to speak siluyana. But after being conquered by Basotho, they started speaking sisotho in a broken way.

    • @akuvictor
      @akuvictor 2 года назад

      Wrong info tho

    • @chreanetnyundo9508
      @chreanetnyundo9508 2 года назад

      Sikazwe, you want to tell history to the ones who created it. That data is wrong bakwetu.

    • @mbumwaeiluya8680
      @mbumwaeiluya8680 2 года назад

      @@chreanetnyundo9508 why do u say wrong? That is how I see it

  • @tsietsimotloung5660
    @tsietsimotloung5660 2 года назад +1

    Heban 😬😬

  • @MukelabaiNdiyoi
    @MukelabaiNdiyoi Год назад +2

    U ziba cwañi not cwani. Ki mañi (mang) not mani

    • @kelasdiary
      @kelasdiary  Год назад +1

      Noted. It was a typing area

  • @top-gnews8333
    @top-gnews8333 Год назад +1

    Why are they diving us