Best LUT for Beginners - Leeming vs FilmConvert vs Buttery

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2019
  • Comparing some quick color grades using the Leeming LUTs, the Buttery LUTs, & FilmConvert with some general color correction tips and usage scenarios.
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  • @CarloTimothy
    @CarloTimothy 5 лет назад +58

    Next intro: and middle grey is my favorite shade of grey.

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 5 лет назад +24

    "and I read 50 shades of middle grey"
    "and I'm a redundant audio solution"
    "and my cyan is almost gone"
    "and I grade against the grain"

  • @visceralpsyche
    @visceralpsyche 5 лет назад +98

    I hit the Like button THREE times!! :D But seriously, great video showing the differences in methods and principles behind my LUT for accuracy, the Buttery LUT for an Arri style look, and FilmConvert for the crazier stuff. Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

    • @visceralpsyche
      @visceralpsyche 5 лет назад +20

      And LOL at the two minute mark or so. "Apply LUT, contrast, done". That's EXACTLY my intention :D More time for the fun stuff!

    • @DVZM.
      @DVZM. 4 года назад +4

      @@visceralpsyche
      Hello Paul, I purchased your LUTs for Sony a few weeks ago. I watched the Videos by Gerald Undone, Jason Anthony as well as your short ETTR tutorial.
      Unfortunatelly, it does not matter how much I overexpose, after applying your LUT the footage is horribly dark. Doing it exactly the way you show in your ETTR tutorial results in very dark footage (and very noisy because of the high ISO I have to use).
      I have tried the LUTs on different PCs using Premiere and DaVinci. They seem to affect the footage in a completely different way than the ones Gerald and Jason use.
      What could be the reason for that? Can LUTs "brake"?
      I look forward to an answer. If you have the time I would appreciate it if you could accept my request for the facebook group.

    • @visceralpsyche
      @visceralpsyche 4 года назад +2

      @@DVZM. The LUTs have a linear luma curve which can darken the shadows, but if you follow the LUT with one of my Apollo Pro Quickies (download them for free from my website) you can raise the shadow details without clipping the highlights. You can stack multiple instances if needed without any additional noise. HTH!

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 4 года назад +1

      Try Leeming LUT Pro II which are less dark

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 3 года назад

      @Digital Mr. Neder Try his Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/LeemingLUTPro/

  • @JimRobinson-colors
    @JimRobinson-colors 5 лет назад +9

    I suggest when using curves for the purpose that you were demonstrating is to pin the middle grey first. The reason the waveform is jumping up or down is lessened if you pin the points on the curve. In Resolve you can of course just click the black mid and white and the points will be placed on the curve then you can pull each up or down etc.

  • @frozentundra7235
    @frozentundra7235 5 лет назад +10

    Man, your videos are so helpful and not half assed like other creators. Thank you!

  • @mitchmedmedia5386
    @mitchmedmedia5386 5 лет назад +3

    This was super helpful, thanks for taking the time to put this together. I've been using buttery luts but your results from the leeming luts are making me think about trying them out.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks, Mitch! Glad to hear it. Cheers!

  • @jimmyle3068
    @jimmyle3068 5 лет назад +88

    Screw it, I’m going to tattoo a color card on my arm.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +7

      😜👌

    • @mark-davidchandler5895
      @mark-davidchandler5895 4 года назад +2

      hell yes! right on your face!

    • @bendoverjunior
      @bendoverjunior 4 года назад +1

      it won't be color accurate :)

    • @vinzaputra
      @vinzaputra 4 года назад

      Do it

    • @MyVantasticLifeVoyage
      @MyVantasticLifeVoyage 3 года назад +1

      Hi I’m just now learning to tattoo, got my kit on Amazon and everything. Anyway, I was gonna offer to do your tattoo for free, just for experience. DM me if you’re interested.

  • @desertbornproductions
    @desertbornproductions 4 года назад

    Fantastic, thanks so much for this. I was the the first person to receive Paul Leeming's new LUTs last week and I was struggling with it looking so dark as you stayed many do. Being new to using LUTs and hearing endless youtubers saying to expose HLG3 in the middle, I finally realised after watching this that each LUT you commit to requires you to expose specifically for that LUT. In Leeming LUTs case that means expose to the right (quite a bit) which I realized in my tests. Thanks for clearing up so much. I've subscribed , Cheers!

  • @josecolon8143
    @josecolon8143 5 лет назад +1

    As always great vid Gerald! I remember when I first joined your channel. You had almost 1K followers and look at you reaching the 70K! OUTSTANDING

  • @SimplyAubs
    @SimplyAubs 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for making this! I’m just starting out with even THINKING about LUTs and color grading. But this helped it seem not TOO intimidating. Once again, thanks for sharing this with us! Cheers!

  • @sircookson
    @sircookson 2 года назад

    Gerald, you are one of the most helpful youtubers. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

  • @ChrisMeuzelaar1
    @ChrisMeuzelaar1 5 лет назад +8

    I'm just starting to figure out LUT's, grading and how they work, so thank you

  • @MrJonrob1234
    @MrJonrob1234 2 года назад

    Very thankful for all the hard work you put in to ensure we are educated.

  • @LeoPaperClass
    @LeoPaperClass 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you so much!!! This is what I’m looking for.

  • @primrosevideo8844
    @primrosevideo8844 3 года назад +1

    I've been doing video for several years and I know next to nothing about curves. So thank you for timestamp 8:40!

  • @BenHoltenFilms
    @BenHoltenFilms 5 лет назад +1

    Gerald you are killing it man. Not many others are putting out the quality of stuff that you do. The information you give out is based on fact and evidence. You are the Sheldon Cooper of cameras. :)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks a lot, Ben! Means a lot. 😃🙏

  • @HeyTomHaas
    @HeyTomHaas 5 лет назад +1

    As always man great information and well thought out. Thank you for the wonderful content !

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks, Tom! Really appreciate that.

  • @chrisrock340
    @chrisrock340 5 лет назад +1

    Really great video! Thanks for doing this!

  • @RobertFahnenstiel
    @RobertFahnenstiel 4 года назад +1

    Hey Gerald! Just wanted to say thank you for the content you´re making. It helps me a lot to get better in grading and understanding more and more my Sony A7iii. Really appreciate your videos! Great Great work. Thank you. Have a great one and see you in the next Video. Cheers from Switzerland. Robert

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  4 года назад +1

      Thanks a lot, Robert! Really appreciate that. Cheers!

  • @mannyzarate1784
    @mannyzarate1784 Год назад +2

    Gerald, could you please do an update to this video since Paul's Leeming LUT has been updated and the same for the Phantom LUT which many people love. I would like to know which is more color accurate and also gives you a best out of camera result. Thanks.

  • @Medic0013
    @Medic0013 5 лет назад +1

    Solid video as always. Thanks for your hard work!

  • @demetriusmarsh600
    @demetriusmarsh600 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this video! Super helpful!!

  • @MehmetKozal
    @MehmetKozal 4 года назад +1

    I am really happy using Leeming Luts. It really adjusts color and luma in a way that it almost exactly looks like how my eyes see the scene (with custom WB). Makes the grading part so much easier.

  • @TheUndisputedGodFather
    @TheUndisputedGodFather 5 лет назад +1

    Great vid mate! Well done

  • @victormultanen1981
    @victormultanen1981 5 лет назад +1

    great tutorial!
    I appreciate your effort to promote us great knowledge of color grading!

  • @LiamShy
    @LiamShy 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. Refreshing to have a proper analytical approach. Thanks for sharing!

  • @greenvgx96
    @greenvgx96 3 года назад

    Thank you! This is a fantastic tutorial.

  • @WaltJacob
    @WaltJacob 5 лет назад +4

    More advanced grading tutorials from Gerald? Umm hell yes please.

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 5 лет назад +2

    Just ordered the Leeming LUTs. No more sloppy jalopy!

  • @thomasqu9063
    @thomasqu9063 2 года назад

    Great video, learned a lot!

  • @vaulthunter3056
    @vaulthunter3056 Год назад

    thank you! I love Leeming lut for bmpcc4k. The colors get pretty close to what my eyes see

  • @Archels
    @Archels 5 лет назад +1

    Very good, I pressed the thumbs up button three times !

  • @encellon
    @encellon 5 лет назад

    A more general point -- As a new user of video editing tools (I'm more familiar with audio editing) -- it's nice to have a 'scope' display that objectively tells you when a shot is 'property' balanced (or in what ways it isn't). Cool

  • @MisaelRodriguez
    @MisaelRodriguez 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the great info!

  • @pranamsk
    @pranamsk 5 лет назад

    The much awaited video.

  • @AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones
    @AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones 3 года назад

    Have to say Paul Leeming's LUT for the DJI Mavic 2 Pro (using 10 bit D-Log M) and setting as the LUT was intended for - works very well and I do recommend it over the others I have tried.
    Davinci Resolve studio 17

  • @Valleedbrume
    @Valleedbrume 5 лет назад +8

    I think Resolve is a great color grading tool.They have been doing this longer than anybody.

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa 5 лет назад

      Agree somewhat

  • @avarmadillo
    @avarmadillo 4 года назад

    Leeming LUTs--the bee's knees, awesome!

  • @rich8037
    @rich8037 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this - interesting stuff as always. One thing, though, that I have yet to see discussed, or even mentioned really, in any instructional material on colour grading from log to Rec.709 is the business of getting the log image data lined up just right before converting to linear. The important point here is that log and linear operations are not, in mathematical language, 'commutative': operation A followed by operation B is not the same as operation B followed by operation A. Because of this, it is important to get colour temperature and exposure adjusted to perfection in the raw, log, file before converting to linear (and this is true of course whether one uses a LUT or other grading means). The possibility of adjusting both those parameters 'after the fact' is probably the biggest single advantage of using a raw format. This kind of consideration won't matter much if you're going for the FilmConvert route of getting an artistic effect, but if you're more of the Leeming mindset and want a fundamentally accurate grade (at least, before adding the odd arty touch) there's a lot to be said for spending a minute or two adjusting both colour temp and exposure in really quite tiny increments and checking the results via various scopes. At the very least, those with a scientific background (yes, that's me!) will take some satisfaction from knowing that the result has been achieved with the minimum number of steps.

  • @newfoundmass
    @newfoundmass 5 лет назад

    Letting yo hair down! You go girl!

  • @YVZSTUDIOS
    @YVZSTUDIOS 5 лет назад +1

    Evertime I see a video about LUTs and FilmConvert, I always notice that pretty much nobody mentions a superior way of emulating color film IMO. I've tested out a lot of LUTs, but the VisionColor ImpulZ 35mm LUTs are my favorite by far. I see them as a hidden gem, tbh.
    It may have a rather different approach compared to others, but that's def. one of their stenghts because it's very modular. It took me some time to really understand how it works and how it's used, but now I've even made my own custom application. The saturation on the rec.709 LUTs is a bit low for my taste, so I use the LOG LUTs instead, which have a much richer color reproduction of the various film stocks.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts/experiences. Cheers!

  • @akbarishmael3551
    @akbarishmael3551 5 лет назад

    Very inspirational!!!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @LeighRatcliffe
    @LeighRatcliffe 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this one, I took heaps from it ;)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Awesome! Really good to hear. Thanks, Leigh.

  • @AldoMiike
    @AldoMiike 5 лет назад +1

    great video.
    Thanks

  • @mark-davidchandler5895
    @mark-davidchandler5895 4 года назад

    Very helpful vid, as usual! Thanks dude, I'm learning a lot!
    I'm curious what bitrate you exported this video in? Did you use the standard "4K RUclips High Bitrate" preset or something else?

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 5 лет назад +1

    I'm GU and I put the IRE in 🔥

  • @ThisIsTechToday
    @ThisIsTechToday 5 лет назад

    I just started messing with VLOG on the GH5S and oh boy, that's a lesson. I keep pushing the exposure so I don't get noise in the shadows but when I bring down the highs to fix things and not look weird, my highs are around 70, which seems a bit dark.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      If it's just a shot of you, I'd just aim to put your skin on the ideal level for you. And then just aim to repeat that every time. Which I'd say is probably around 60-65% for your complexion.

  • @gmolina
    @gmolina 5 лет назад +1

    I'm not an expert colorist but what I've learned so far is that if you intent to apply a Rec709 correction LUT, it's good practice to apply it in the creative LUT section. And then add another Lumetri FX underneath (or adjustment layer on top) to play with your creative look. Since the correction LUTs are destructive, it gives you room "before" your Rec709 LUT to balance the footage. This is for Premiere.
    It's a bit easier in Resolve since you just leave an empty node at the beginning, 2nd node correction LUT, and then following nodes whatever your creative grade is going to be. Although I do prefer using Resolve Color Management instead of correction LUTs, because it's non destructive.
    For example, you can test this outdoors where clipping highlights is more likely and easier to spot how much you can recover. You'll notice that when you apply a Correction LUT and then try to recover highlights, you'll bring them down but they'll stay clipped. This is just one of many issues you can encounter.
    Great video as usual, Gerald! Cheers!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +3

      That's a commonly recommended strategy and I think it's definitely viable. However, for this workflow since I was using raw, I didn't think it was necessary since I can do most of the corrections in the raw panel before it ever hits the LUT. It's a good tip, though, in some circumstances. Although, in my experience, it doesn't work as well for the Leeming LUT. I find it works better if you put the base LUT in the top line and then use little creative style looks in the creative section. It's also the only way to get to look the same as Resolve does when you add the LUT there.

    • @gmolina
      @gmolina 5 лет назад +1

      @@geraldundone Oh yeah, absolutely! when working with RAW files, your method was perfectly fine. I meant it for other workflows when using HLG profiles and things like that.

  • @DevonBlueWhitaker
    @DevonBlueWhitaker 5 лет назад +5

    Duuuuuuuuuude! Yes!!! Black magic stufff!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @felipeopazomusic
    @felipeopazomusic 5 лет назад +1

    I've been using Film Convert on every video I make for 6 years now (corporate, narrative or music videos), I use it inside DaVinci Resolve on my first node, I like to imagine that I'm starting from a real film stock and then grading "over it". I love it!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Nice! Thanks for sharing. That's a fun way of looking at it.

  • @JoseHernandezB97
    @JoseHernandezB97 4 года назад

    Amazing video!! I really enjoy your content. There is something that I would love to ask you. I shoot night events and they are constanly changing color environment. Leeming luts demands to use the WB checker so I am not sure if these luts are useless unless I do accurate white balance or should I still the lut without taking care of that. What do you think are my best options ?

  • @PhillipRPeck
    @PhillipRPeck 5 лет назад

    Goddamn Gerald. You're quickly becoming the most essential video/film channel on RUclips--at least in terms of technical aspects of imaging. Film Convert looked similar to the film look LUTs that come with Resolve and Premiere. What else does it offer to differentiate from those? I know that Philip Bloom uses it a lot, so it must be good

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks a lot, Phillip! I think for FilmConvert it's about faithful emulation and grain control. They're releasing an update soon to give a much more expanded grain control and I believe curve control as well. Just to try and dial in that film quality.

  • @deanpettitt121
    @deanpettitt121 5 лет назад +2

    Great video fella!
    I'd love to see you grade XT3 Log footage to see how you'd approach it

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks, Dean! And I appreciate the suggestion. Cheers!

  • @Soupcan13
    @Soupcan13 5 лет назад +2

    Nice video man! Ha ha sloppy jalopy. Cracking me up. How do you like that blac lk magic? Seems like a really capapable package

  • @theTechNotice
    @theTechNotice 5 лет назад

    wow, thanks for the video! Did you record that yesterday? :D

  • @CarlosMenciaTT
    @CarlosMenciaTT 5 лет назад +2

    If this video ended in two minutes I would have LOL’ed so hard

  • @jedwilliams
    @jedwilliams 4 года назад

    Which LUTs would you recommend for real estate property videos? Interior shots have very high contrast with windows being blown out and we're really struggling to get things right. We shoot on GH5S and Blackmagic Cinema 4k. And... as always... fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @karpiolog
    @karpiolog 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Gerald! Thanks to you I'm using HLG and leeming LUTs. I've started using it all together not so long ago. What I can't find on your channel is how to actually shoot/expose HLG. Do you have a video that explains HLG shooting outside? Love your channel btw

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Hey! Thanks for the kind words. I don't have a video on that specifically, but for the Leeming LUT he recommends exposing ETTR, which I talk about quite a bit in my recent Blackmagic video. ruclips.net/video/hV7ixU2AmLE/видео.html go around the 8:00 mark.
      Also, Paul Leeming has a guide on this as well found here: ruclips.net/video/P_bDdQPAtas/видео.html

  • @jonathanfatigate
    @jonathanfatigate 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @hawaiirealmedia5610
    @hawaiirealmedia5610 5 лет назад

    Very helpful (not sure about "entertaining" though!) Seriously, this helps a lot. Not sure if FilmConvert is worth it (yet)

  • @NMEdiary
    @NMEdiary 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome Video Gerald! Really helpful since i‘m kinda getting into log video and color grading. I‘m filming with the fuji xt-3 and sadly both the leeming lut (which looked really good to me) and the buttery lut don‘t support the fuji f-log. Are there any luts or colorgrading tips you have especially regarding f-log?
    Also as a Video Request I think it would be awesome to have a little tutorial to get to know the whole vocabulary and basics of colorgrading like the curves and numbers you used to put the hightlights, midtones, etc. in the right places!
    Thanks for the video and have a great day!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks so much! Have you tried the F-Log to Eterna LUT that you can get from Fuji for free? It's pretty nice if you're a fan of their Eterna look.
      Thanks for the suggestion as well. Cheers!

  • @stas.sultanov
    @stas.sultanov Месяц назад

    Would be great to see a newer 2024 version of this video.

  • @easyyttv
    @easyyttv 3 года назад

    I just picked up a bmpcc4k, trying to do more professional video, and I was normally shooting on sony. You've helped a lot and from your videos I ended up getting Leeminglut for Sony. Now that I am starting to take it more seriously I wanted to see what you would recommend for professional commercial style work. That super clean consistent style? I will be doing documentary style personal work and some work with cars that is not hypercritical but I'm wanting something to help my workflow at first. What would you recommend for this? I'm mainly shooting BRaw Q0. Thanks for any tips. I am working on grading and making my own stuff but I love things like this that just expedite my workflow.

  • @ForestCinema
    @ForestCinema 5 лет назад

    I’m very much anticipating the new FilmConvert Nitrate for the Cineon LOG emulations. The current version bakes in the response curve of the print film emulation, which I find quite limiting, as it backs you into a corner on some shots. I’ll quite enjoy having essentially a LOG scanned film emulator, with all the nice film color and grain, with freedom to add contrast via curves to my desired taste.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Yeah, I'm excited for that too. Going to be doing a video on the Nitrate beta shortly.

  • @dqstudios
    @dqstudios 4 года назад

    Thanks for this great info Gerald! Q: what do you set your HLG3 saturation to as I find the +15 for the original HLG the Leeming Lut PRO was made for too harsh. TIA!

    • @BrilliantDigitalUK
      @BrilliantDigitalUK 4 года назад

      I have seen somewhere a comment, saying that +15 is for HLG 1 or 2. For HLG3 you want to use +5 instead.

  • @fortymileswest
    @fortymileswest 5 лет назад

    Great video! Thanks for doing this.
    Would have been good if you had have discussed how you white balanced the camera for these each method.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      I almost always set a custom white balance using a card. That chart that I was holding up can be turned around and used as a white balance card. I set the white balance using the in-camera custom tool. If I'm comparing white balances though, I'll usually just set each camera to 5600K and see if one's warmer than the other, etc.

  • @jaydivina533
    @jaydivina533 5 лет назад +2

    Leeming LUTs is carefree happiness. I'd try the FilmConvert and Buttery but neither support my cameras.
    Vectorscope looked like a spirograph! I think there are a few color eagle eyed viewers unconscious by their desks.
    Thanks Gerald. I'm stuck with Leeming but I'm ok with that.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Haha. Thanks, Jay! Your comments always crack me up. 😃

    • @peterlemke3468
      @peterlemke3468 5 лет назад +1

      Gimme some vectorscope action l say!

    • @thomasshakelton
      @thomasshakelton 2 года назад

      @@geraldundone Are Alister Chapman correction Luts for Sony also recommended or are Leeming the golden standard?

  • @RyanClarkFisherII
    @RyanClarkFisherII 3 года назад

    Very helpful In august 2021

  • @ClashOfMinds1
    @ClashOfMinds1 2 года назад

    Hi there. Trying to get the "leeming lut pro blackmagic design v4 film", but can not find it online. I'm using Blackmagic Studio Pro cameras. Anybody able to help with this

  • @courteoussammy112
    @courteoussammy112 5 лет назад +1

    Your videos are honestly very informative. And after watching some of your videos concerning matters I understand well, I know I can trust you on the other stuff too. Could you please specify grading courses where we can actually trust the instructor just like we trust you?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thank you very much! That means a lot. There's quite a few good ones, but often they're specific to a particular platform or camera. What workflow do you prefer to work with?

  • @stkuj
    @stkuj 5 лет назад

    Hi Gerald, I love your content. As a new a7iii user it really is helpful! If you have a video on this already; please send me the link. I was wondering if you had a video on the best settings for video SOOC for those beginners who prefer not to grade or need something quickly to use. Thanks!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Hey! I have this video: ruclips.net/video/9E8doNzDymo/видео.html It covers a lot of different topics on the Sony, but for you I'd recommend Cine2. It's pretty easy and looks good right away. And if you find it too flat, you can just increase the contrast and saturation a little in post and you're done.

  • @888marin888
    @888marin888 5 лет назад

    Yeah film convert is pretty fun to use and the highlight rolloff of certain profil is really great, but i wish i can apply only the curve and not the color of a profil or at least apply film convert to the high lights via a secondary luma mask, but, i think that premiere 2019 doesn't allow that, always not.
    Did you try the "Impulz Ultimate LUTs" ? Some of the LUTs in Photoshop are pretty cool too when loaded in your NLE :)

  • @AlgarveaoVivo
    @AlgarveaoVivo 5 лет назад +1

    Great Dude! Can you try to match the sony with the BMPCC for livestreaming ?
    Thanks Keep it up dude!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks! And thanks for the suggestion! Cheers.

  • @usernamenotvisibIe
    @usernamenotvisibIe 4 года назад +1

    Gerald, do you notice any difference in how the Buttery LUT affects footage shot at (blackmagic) Constant Bitrate 3:1 vs 12:1 ?

  • @bioluminantmedia
    @bioluminantmedia 3 года назад +1

    Gerald quick question: If using Black Magic Raw does it make sense to first apply either Leeming or Buttery to convert to Rec 709 then follow it up with FilmConvert to apply a specific film look or skip the first step and go straight to FilmConvert? I'm shooting mostly natural history video so skin tone accuracy is not an issue. Thanks!

  • @AnhNguyen-iq7fs
    @AnhNguyen-iq7fs 4 года назад

    Hi Gerald, when using Leeming LUTs, should it be applied it BEFORE or AFTER color corrections (exposure, and white balance)?

  • @DavidSkok1
    @DavidSkok1 4 года назад +2

    Hi Gerald, thanks for the consistently excellent material you have put out. Thanks to you, I started shooting my Sony cameras in modified PP10 - HLG3, and BT.2020. I edit and grade in Davinci Resolve, and have made the following discovery on how to get the best colors when converting the BT.2020 color space to Rec.709. This assumes that you are using Davinci YRGB as your Color Science (Setting at the top of the Color tab in the Project Settings page), and have your Timeline color space set to "Rec.709 Gamma 2.2". Add a Color Space Transform node (from the OpenFX list). For Input Color Space, set that to Rec.2020, and leave Input Gamma as "Use Timeline". Set Output Color Space to Rec.709, or simply leave it as "Use Timeline" as the Timeline is Rec.709. (And leave Output Gamma as "Use Timeline".) Right off the bat this gives you a pretty good conversion. But the colors are just a bit off. To fix this, go down to the Global Blend slider, and drag it between 0 (which applies the full effect of this transform, and 100, which negates the transform and goes back to the original Rec.2020. I have found that a blend of around 0.3 to 0.7 gives the most accurate and pleasing colors. Now the last part: the transform often gives too much saturation, so go to the Gamma Mapping area, and select Gamma Mapping Method of "Saturation Mapping". Now adjust the Saturation Max. level to get the amount of saturation that you want. This gives you fine grained control over both the resulting colors and saturation. I can get really great skin tones from this, as well as landscape colors.
    You'll note that I didn't transform the HLG gamma to Rec.709, as that gives some really odd results, and it is far easier to adjust the final contrast of the image using a curve, or contrast slider.
    To make this easier to apply to all your Sony clips, you can create a Group, and add all the Sony clips in your timeline into that Group. Then apply this grade at the Group level instead of at the Clip level. This is similar to using an Adjustment Clip layered on your other clips, but easier to use in several ways.
    On your recommendation, I also purchased the Leeming LUTs, and while they work fairly well, I am seeing some odd colors in my footage that aren't correct. The above conversion is definitely more accurate. There is another reason why not to use LUTs if you can avoid them: they result in clipped values ( a bit like a destructive edit in Photoshop), and may fall apart (banding, etc.) if you apply other strong manipulations or LUTs later on in the grade. The Color Space Transform node does not is a bit like a non-destructive edit, in that all values can still be stretched later on in the grade, with no detrimental effect.
    I hope this is helpful to you and your other viewers. Like your work, this has come after hours and hours of experimentation with different ways of accomplishing this BT.2020 to Rec.709 color transform.

    • @DavidSkok1
      @DavidSkok1 4 года назад +1

      One other problem with LUTs that I should have mentioned: they are very sensitive to how the video is exposed (i.e. require ETTR to work properly.) The Color Space Transform node does not suffer from this issue.

    • @EpithetMusicTV
      @EpithetMusicTV 4 года назад +1

      great comment, shame it’s buried in a place nobody will find except me by accident lol). but you’re right using the colour space transform tools provided in resolve is generally the more effective route to go.

    • @DavidSkok1
      @DavidSkok1 4 года назад

      @@EpithetMusicTV You got it! Since I first wrote that comment, I made another very interesting discovery: the Color Space Transform tool does a brilliant job converting Sony's S-Gamut3.Cine to Rec.709, giving the excellent colors for both skin tones and landscapes. This is the best color I have seen out of the Sony, and it is right up there with Panasonic, and in several cases is better. So right now, my preferred color space is S-Gamut3.cine. I then wanted to figure out which Gamma setting offered the best dynamic range, from my testing, Cine 2 covers 99% of the situations. If I really was concerned, I might use HLG. But with either of those, I would still use S-Gamut3.Cine as the Color space.
      Note for those new to this stuff: Gamma controls the contrast, black levels, white levels, etc. and doesn't impact color. And Color Space controls the color space, without affecting contrast.

  • @peterlemke3468
    @peterlemke3468 5 лет назад +3

    Very well explained and thanks for the comparison of the 3 LUTs Mr G. A pity that Leeming is not available for Nikon cameras, not even the Z6.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Thanks, Peter! At one point, if I remember correctly the Nikon was a work in progress for Leeming, not sure if it still is.

    • @fatheadmediapro
      @fatheadmediapro 5 лет назад

      @@geraldundone definitely would be interested for the Z6 as well. Fingers crossed.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 3 года назад

      It's out for Nikon Z: www.leeminglutpro.com/

  • @grat2010
    @grat2010 5 лет назад +1

    ☑ found this video helpful
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    ☑ gave it the ol' thumbs-up

  • @TheSmeagol630
    @TheSmeagol630 5 лет назад +6

    Gerald: "We'll use this shot here because you're used to it and will easily spot differences."
    Gerald's thoughts: "I was born in this room and from an early age consumed knowledge via the internet until my brain was too large to fit though the door. Unable to think of a way out, I've accepted the irony of my curse."

  • @jonathangolgota
    @jonathangolgota 3 года назад

    thanks 4 video Gerald the witcher

  • @motionstku
    @motionstku 5 лет назад

    Hey Gerald. First: thanks for all the good content!
    I have a question. When filming with the A6400 and AIII with HLG3 - is it normal, that the picture gets darker after applying the leeming LUT?
    I always have to set my "white slider" to around 80 or more to get the peak to the top.
    I expose it like it is recommended by leeming LUT.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 3 года назад

      It's normal. Try the new Pro II LUTs which are lighter. You should have received them already.

  • @guerrerosdigitales
    @guerrerosdigitales Год назад

    Gerald, could you please do the same but Phantom LUT vs Leeming LUT please?

  • @frisisir
    @frisisir 3 года назад

    By any chance, is there a similar video related to livestreaming? I'm mixing bmpcc 6k pro with a nikon z6ii and a Canon R6. I've been able to get the canon and Nikon close enough for live streaming, maybe because they both use ninja v's. But the pocket cinema is way off. I just saw a post about leeming LUTs. I think it will work. But for how clear and thorough this video was, I'd love to see this with regards to livestreaming. Thanks.

  • @lesliedougan2246
    @lesliedougan2246 5 лет назад

    Gerald I was completely lost are you setting the camera up or is it the finished photo in light room.

  • @UrAshWhole
    @UrAshWhole 5 лет назад

    Have you tried the Phantom Luts for Slogs yet?

  • @bananacy
    @bananacy 4 года назад +1

    Hello Gerald. In premiere pro corrective luts should be applied in the creative tabs, not basic tab. that way your basic adjustment take effect before your corrective lut. The order of the lut setting in basic tabs is incorrect. Then add second lumetri to grade it. Try it and see the difference.

    • @creativeflyfishing998
      @creativeflyfishing998 Год назад

      This is not the case with the Leeming lut from what I understand, at least not in FCP where the first thing I do is to apply it as a "camera lut" rather than a "custom lut" directly after adding the clip to the timeline. But perhaps we are talking about different things.

  • @darrinlalla9008
    @darrinlalla9008 5 лет назад

    Aren't the scopes being influenced by the entire frame and not just the area with the Colour Checker? How accurate is it if the graphs include info from your background and your face?

  • @-grey
    @-grey 5 лет назад +3

    Gerald, I've always wondered, but what exactly makes you "crazy"? I'd consider you to be quite methodical and well adjusted.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Ha! Thanks a lot. It's actually a really old intro that I kept around because it's fun. But the crazy part is just about the intensity and depth of my interests. "You'd have to be crazy to do that test 115 times." Something like that.

  • @TheBomber1307
    @TheBomber1307 5 лет назад +5

    Also, you say the Leening is accurate but then you decrease the sat 13 points. Would the Buttery be more accurate if you increase the sat 13 points? Maybe if you had increased the contrast on the Buttery instead of modifying the curve it would have looked better quicker? Sorry for all the questions but I am debating which one I should buy. Thanks

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Saturation changes at that level in post don't really change the accuracy of the color, neither does a luma curve. The colour accuracy segment was checking to see how accurate the hues were from the chart I shot on a vectorscope. The Leeming LUT is more colour accurate regardless. Adjusting the contrast for the Buttery LUTs would have produced a similar result to the curve, I was just showing two ways to do it. You can either increase the contrast or make a subtle S-curve. Contrast might be easier, because it's a slider, but the curve will give you more control. Hope that helps.

    • @TheBomber1307
      @TheBomber1307 5 лет назад

      Thanks a lot for your responses. To me it seems the Buttery might be less accurate but more pleasant which is what I personally care the most, particularly if it’s closer to a more filmic look like the Arri. As far as exposing 2 stops over I personally really don’t think it’s a good idea particularly with digital cameras, where recouping the highlights is very difficult, not like it was with Film. So even in this case the Buttery seems a better and more versatile LUT option since it seems to work perfectly in low light. Thanks again for your help, greetings from Germany

  • @L7pusher
    @L7pusher 2 года назад

    What do you do if you're color blind? I am and honestly many of the changes you made I can't even see -- like even a little bit. Its frustrating and kinda discouraging...Uhh. Yeah. Think I grab a spoon now and scoop the eyes out of my head. Its interesting content that's new to me. Putting in the time to learn the material isn't the problem, my question is if I should bother to go down this path when my eyes are basically incapable of seeing what it is I am suppose to be correcting. Thank you for sharing. I'll look into this further and try to understand what it is I am looking at and how these programs improve my images and /or footage.

  • @LukePollack
    @LukePollack 5 лет назад

    Are you using the Sigma 16mm for your A-Roll?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +1

      Sigma 18-35mm on the BMPCC4K lately.

  • @riparianstudios
    @riparianstudios 5 лет назад

    Hey Gerald! This whole purple shadow/green midtones is a new one for me. I tend to just do a lot of blued shadow/warmed midtones on my clips for a natural look. Is the purple/green thing specific to your studio setup where it's intended to be a bit tech-feeling, or would you use this in other contexts?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад

      Hey! I just do is a part of a branding play to associate my channel with purple. I started out doing it a lot more intense and have eased up on it as people have come to recognize the grade.

    • @riparianstudios
      @riparianstudios 5 лет назад +1

      @@geraldundone Got it! I love the cleverness of introducing a subtle color into the shadows as a branding thing. It's so interesting to think about all the different ways in which a color grade can be used, from creating a certain feel in a film to supporting a cohesive brand on a RUclips channel. Thanks for continuing to lead the way and sharing videos that have something for pros and amateurs alike. :)

  • @bogdanvicol3241
    @bogdanvicol3241 4 года назад

    Great video, but one quick but important question. Since I am a beginner I don't quite understand how I can fix that ETTR on +2.0 on my sony A7III (using leeming cine2 profile settings) since I shoot at 25p 1/50 and 100ISO (with aperture varying from 1.4 to 2.8). For example if I'm filming thru a room with a darker side and brighter desk zone that exposure will vary between 0 and 2. It's there a fix for this? should I go for auto ISO to keep that ETTR at exactly +2? or auto iso for video is a no-no
    Thank you! and let me say your channel is my new hobby/netflix/wikipedia

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 3 года назад

      I assume you are varying aperture to keep exposure relatively constant? Keep doing that and raise ISO manually if you need to. Auto ISO is more useful for changes like outside to inside.

  • @aleksanderkozak5204
    @aleksanderkozak5204 Год назад

    Gerald, what about applying LUTs on footage shot using an 8-bit codec? I mean the Panasonic Cinelike D profile. Are 8 bits good enough to grade such footage without creating any banding or/and some noise etc? Best.

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 5 лет назад

    "Buttery Luts" is also an undeground indie band from New York.

  • @andreasbulowhansen9413
    @andreasbulowhansen9413 5 лет назад

    You should try the GHAlex LUT

  • @lassechristoffersen2313
    @lassechristoffersen2313 5 лет назад

    Do you use Paul Leemings recommended camera settings when applying the Leeming luts, or do you use the settings recommended in your own previous video? (All default except detail -7)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  5 лет назад +2

      Whenever I plan to use his LUTs I always follow his guide. So, I've updated my settings to match his new saturation levels.

  • @davidlovephotog2
    @davidlovephotog2 5 лет назад

    Trying to figure out why the Leeming darkens my footage so much that I have to adjust the raw brighter and boost the iso even when it was super bright in the shoot. Happens with gh5 and bmpcc6k.

  • @xXxAmadeuzxXx
    @xXxAmadeuzxXx 4 года назад

    Buttery lut suggests to change tint to 0 on the camera. The default is on 10. Did you do that in this test?