Excellent content! Detailed and clear explanation, plus the "Waffle bonus". Certainly the best land navigation instruction channel on the Internet. Many thanks Mr. Naylor, don't ever stop waffling, it's far too educational.❤❤
The rope bound coils seem to be like what we use in Canada to prevent erosion of hillsides. We use them on freshly disturbed hillsides. New highways, for example, that have ditches on each side of a hill in the road, use similar restrainers at intervals from top to bottom of the hill. This stops the fast flow of water down off the road into the ditch. We may have learned this from beavers, who build stepped dams on a downhill river, forming stepped pools at certain contour elevations. Clever beavers.
A glacial waffle! The artistic nature of the Ordance Survey maps is one of the things that attracted me to your channel. The waffles are an added bonus! They're erosion control barriers. Water flows through, soil gets trapped..
Hi Wayne, my friend we love your waffles!! It so educational, you’re a wealth of knowledge!! I really enjoy the waffles, embrace it, you are an awesome educator!! Bless your heart my friend, thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge!! STRENGTH AND HONOR my friend be well!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️ from Washington state 🇺🇸
Take no notice of people saying you need a script. That’s for those people who do everything in a shouty voice, annoying jump cuts, zoom in and outs, loud music, unfunny wisecracks, sat with a background of swirling graphics aimed at people with short attention spans. This is nice and calming and interesting and I can absorb the information without having to rewind or constantly put subtitles on
Tarn is an Old Norse name. In Swedish it is called Tjärn. The definition is the same, the lake lacks drainage only evaporation. Tjärn lakes are usually found in forest areas. If it is located in marshland, it is called Göl. A Tjärn lacks peat banks, and has clearer water than a göl.
When you mentioned that the military funded the mapping of the country was this in preparation of a possible invasion by Napoleon, and did they concentrate their efforts initially around the south east coastal area only expanding the project once the threat had dissipated? It has been years since I’ve attempted long day walks in the hills and usually just stick to the same established tracks around my home town, hence my navigation skills have become rusty. I do enjoy watching and listening to your videos and interested in your little snippets of history or geography that you impart. Your narrations help the map features come to life and tell their story.
And, to add these were to a scale of one inch to a mile: the principle scale for OS maps until metrication in the 1970s, when it was replaced by 1:50000. Apart from the fact that they were black and white - colour only came in about 1900, the other big differnce is that they used hachures, rather than contours, to show relief - contours were something else that came in on OS maps about 1900.
An important caveat to OS 1:25,000 vs 1:50,000 is that for any given location, one of those maps may have been updated by Ordnance Survey more recently than the other. This might not be so obvious if using printed maps but can often be seen when using 'live' maps, such as via the OS layer freely available within the online Microsoft Bing Maps (if the browser location is set to UK). The OS team are updating features on one or other of these maps every day, or thereabouts, to address natural changes (such as erosion) or man-made elements; however, some locations appear to get more timely updates than others (so perhaps they receive formal update requests), as many areas have very stale data, years out of date.
The thing about scales, more generally, is use the best scale for the job: 1:25000 to 1:50000 for walking, smaller scales 1:100000 or 1:250000, or even smaller might be better for driving, or to get a national overview (to see where the hills are - but not to get around them); while really large scale maps and plans (110000, 1:2500 or larger) can be needed in urban areas, or for construction.
The bales you asked about are for peat errosion control and stabilisation, in the Peak district the Kinder, Bleaklow, Featherbed Moss etc. have loads in place
Rope wattles an old form of modern Geo-textile to control sediment/water movement . Generally used for good land stewardship , legally required in Canada .We use straw bales on the farm to establish cover on erosion prone soil . Funny I came across a beaver dam in Southern Ontario hiking the other day , a rare sight indeed . Thanks for your dedication to the hiking community !
As @wildfayah commented they are there to stop erosion in peat bog areas. They are often filled with wool. You will see a lot of them in the black mountains of south Wales.
Hi Wayne, is the terminology different in the UK? In the US, USGS map scales are a ratio so a 7.5 minute quadrangle USGS map (1:24,000 or 1/24,000) means 1 inch on the map equals 24,000 inches on the ground. A 15 minute map (1:62,500 0r 1/62,500) means 1 inch on the map equals 62,500 inches on the ground. Since 1/24,000 is a larger number than 1/62,500 we would consider the more detailed 1:24,000 map a larger scale map and a 1:62,500 map a smaller scale map or the larger the denominator the smaller the scale.
About maps. Canada is 9.025 Million km^2 vs Great Britain at 242,610 km^2. We are working on mapping it all. Besides we have a lot of areas that has nothing really worth mapping. Cheers from Canada
Enjoy the waffles so please don’t stop explaining the land. So on CalTopo map app I can make a map of our property and it lets me pick what scale to use. Now I understand that better thank you sir.
Yet another great video 👍I was interested to learn that maps in other countries are not as good as the UK I am planning to go on an Italian hike in the Dolomites (Alta Via1) which map would you suggest to purchase?
Someone else (not literate in maps as such) worked out that a measured distance on the map divided by the width of the grid square equals distance in km. Game changer for me, you don’t even need to know the scale or will work if printed in accurately (eg printer scales to fit on page).
Well done I wish I had your knowladge I’m 55 now and only just understanding as your the only person who talks to us like we need, what flask have you got mine is cold after 4 hours
I have a standard Stanley flask. Just got lucky. Most of them will not keep drinks hot for long but mine seem to stay hot for around 48 hours (yep - two days). Oh and I also have a Stanley soup flask - which is brilliant. No I'm not paid by Stanley.
Plus you might need to have more maps at 1:25k - I’m on the corner of four but probably only need one 1:50k. Are the sausages for reducing wash-off / erosion?
No other country has maps like this? I always had the feeling there are no better maps than the swiss maps (, I am not aware if any square meter not covered and they actually cover part of the neighbour countries terrain as well)... Would be interesting to see a comparison of maps from different countries.
i cut my teeth on sketches and multi-scale maps. i learned to adjust without effort. on a 1:50,000 which is standard mil, ((along with 1:100,000) which i what i had in iraq,) a rail road line is about a half mile wide. we use a .05 mil pencil and after mastering the protractor, you can lock yourself down to within 10 meters of location every time. i was good enough to be a senior navigation land nav instructor for my unit and that was a real honor to serve my fellow soldiers. edit: the rope coils are probably our equivent of erosion control. some people have started to use massive amounts of wood chips and wood debris as it allows plant growth, and while the tanins will leach out, the process is slow enough not to effect plant growth looks like someone expended a lot of energy to put them out as well as cost.
Hey there, Jim from across the pond ,you know from the colonies. LOL. love your channel ,as an ex soldier thank you for helping with a "perishable skill". Was wondering though,i may have missed it but what are your thoughts on the military protractor weve been using since Vietnam? really loved your presentation on the 1-25000 scale being better in close areas builtup and 1-50000 for large terrains. As US ARMY we were trained only on the latter. but dumb question forgive me , is the same method used for n[protractors as us? right and up?. just curious and would love an american military map discussion to hear your thoughts. Youve given me many AHA moments thank you.if i was still in the Army id use your channel as a training aid for navigation training. also the military lensatic compass course. would be great. anyways bye from the colonies....LMAO. love your channel....Jimmy
No "severe" incidents lately. But like everyone else occasionally "navigationally challenged" . . . . 😊 Mind you - definitely got totally lost on Shishapangma between camp 2 and camp 3 (in my youth). Total whiteout, could see ore than 3m. Not good at 7,500m. Walked for hours to find the camp.
Coir rolls. Most likely, looking at the shot to help reduce erosion. Often used around river/like banks planted up. It would trap the soil and create boggy areas.
Bit late to tell you this , but ; the old, no longer printed, Phillip's A-Z street atlases were OS gridded. They covered all of England and Wales but not the whole of Scotland. You might be able to pick up copies on various web sites that sell second-hand books.
Canada is 41 times bigger than the UK and a lot of it remote wilderness,so if you could map all the UK in 20 years it would take 820 to do Canada so I an understand having better maps, most topos are 1:50000 in Canada with supposedly some 1:25000 in certain areas.
Look like erosion control. Seems that a beginner should the 1:25 scale map do we can make where we are all the time. Also, you did not mention your sandwich for the day. Like knowing so I can try it out. Thanks
Now you're just gonna have to take out a stove, waffle iron and mix just to prove you really are The Waffle King 😇. Keep up the good waffle fella, cos these videos of yours would be pourer without it (and can I have syrup on mine, please?). Ps: Whilst I also have no idea what those netted items are either I'm gonna make two ill educated guesses 1st) something to do with subsidence 2nd) newly installed mk3 mole jump gates ready for the National Mole Jumping Festival Hey, I did say I'll informed 🙄
Oh my god no! She has no clue what she’s talking about! I love Venn diagrams We all love yellow buses Space is exciting One day we’ll see the craters on the moon through a telescope We need to be unburdened by what has been 😱🤦🏾
Excellent content! Detailed and clear explanation, plus the "Waffle bonus". Certainly the best land navigation instruction channel on the Internet. Many thanks Mr. Naylor, don't ever stop waffling, it's far too educational.❤❤
The rope bound coils seem to be like what we use in Canada to prevent erosion of hillsides. We use them on freshly disturbed hillsides. New highways, for example, that have ditches on each side of a hill in the road, use similar restrainers at intervals from top to bottom of the hill. This stops the fast flow of water down off the road into the ditch. We may have learned this from beavers, who build stepped dams on a downhill river, forming stepped pools at certain contour elevations. Clever beavers.
Consistently one of the best RUclips channels for excellent factual content (and a bit of waffle). Love a map 😊
Those rope bound coils are probably sediment control wattles used to stop sediment run off after a patch of land is stripped bare.
Agreed run off control, in Australia hay bales are commonly used or a net pegged down.
Keith
A glacial waffle!
The artistic nature of the Ordance Survey maps is one of the things that attracted me to your channel. The waffles are an added bonus!
They're erosion control barriers. Water flows through, soil gets trapped..
I come for the maps, but I stay for the waffle. Thank you for your efforts.
Hi Wayne, my friend we love your waffles!! It so educational, you’re a wealth of knowledge!! I really enjoy the waffles, embrace it, you are an awesome educator!! Bless your heart my friend, thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge!! STRENGTH AND HONOR my friend be well!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️ from Washington state 🇺🇸
Thanks so much
Take no notice of people saying you need a script. That’s for those people who do everything in a shouty voice, annoying jump cuts, zoom in and outs, loud music, unfunny wisecracks, sat with a background of swirling graphics aimed at people with short attention spans. This is nice and calming and interesting and I can absorb the information without having to rewind or constantly put subtitles on
Never apologise for the "waffle" - never! It's part of the reason I watch out for your videos dropping! 🙂
Tarn is an Old Norse name. In Swedish it is called Tjärn. The definition is the same, the lake lacks drainage only evaporation. Tjärn lakes are usually found in forest areas. If it is located in marshland, it is called Göl. A Tjärn lacks peat banks, and has clearer water than a göl.
I love all your excellent videos..Fan from Ireland
I've had many happy days on "the wall" around Slieve Donard
When you mentioned that the military funded the mapping of the country was this in preparation of a possible invasion by Napoleon, and did they concentrate their efforts initially around the south east coastal area only expanding the project once the threat had dissipated?
It has been years since I’ve attempted long day walks in the hills and usually just stick to the same established tracks around my home town, hence my navigation skills have become rusty. I do enjoy watching and listening to your videos and interested in your little snippets of history or geography that you impart. Your narrations help the map features come to life and tell their story.
Yes, OS mapping did start in the French Revolutionary/Napoleonic Wars, and the first maps produced were of south east england (Kent).
And, to add these were to a scale of one inch to a mile: the principle scale for OS maps until metrication in the 1970s, when it was replaced by 1:50000. Apart from the fact that they were black and white - colour only came in about 1900, the other big differnce is that they used hachures, rather than contours, to show relief - contours were something else that came in on OS maps about 1900.
An important caveat to OS 1:25,000 vs 1:50,000 is that for any given location, one of those maps may have been updated by Ordnance Survey more recently than the other. This might not be so obvious if using printed maps but can often be seen when using 'live' maps, such as via the OS layer freely available within the online Microsoft Bing Maps (if the browser location is set to UK).
The OS team are updating features on one or other of these maps every day, or thereabouts, to address natural changes (such as erosion) or man-made elements; however, some locations appear to get more timely updates than others (so perhaps they receive formal update requests), as many areas have very stale data, years out of date.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this. Saved
Brilliant, thank you. I really enjoyed this.
Very informative, thank you!
The thing about scales, more generally, is use the best scale for the job: 1:25000 to 1:50000 for walking, smaller scales 1:100000 or 1:250000, or even smaller might be better for driving, or to get a national overview (to see where the hills are - but not to get around them); while really large scale maps and plans (110000, 1:2500 or larger) can be needed in urban areas, or for construction.
The bales you asked about are for peat errosion control and stabilisation, in the Peak district the Kinder, Bleaklow, Featherbed Moss etc. have loads in place
Thank you
In the USA, we use something similar to those rope rolls, we use them for soil erosion control
Rope wattles an old form of modern Geo-textile to control sediment/water movement . Generally used for good land stewardship , legally required in Canada .We use straw bales on the farm to establish cover on erosion prone soil . Funny I came across a beaver dam in Southern Ontario hiking the other day , a rare sight indeed . Thanks for your dedication to the hiking community !
A definition of "Shake Holes" would be nice . Very good video and thanks.
He has quite a good video on them already posted.
The link to the shake hole video is listed in the description (more…) at the top of this video about map scales.
@QuantumMechanic - UR Welcome and ATB.
As @wildfayah commented they are there to stop erosion in peat bog areas. They are often filled with wool. You will see a lot of them in the black mountains of south Wales.
Very enjoyable video, thanks. How did scales work with imperial units? eg. foot., yard, miles, ...
Hi Wayne, is the terminology different in the UK? In the US, USGS map scales are a ratio so a 7.5 minute quadrangle USGS map (1:24,000 or 1/24,000) means 1 inch on the map equals 24,000 inches on the ground. A 15 minute map (1:62,500 0r 1/62,500) means 1 inch on the map equals 62,500 inches on the ground. Since 1/24,000 is a larger number than 1/62,500 we would consider the more detailed 1:24,000 map a larger scale map and a 1:62,500 map a smaller scale map or the larger the denominator the smaller the scale.
It’s actually the same in the UK, a 1:25000 map is a larger scale compared to a 1:50000 map.
About maps. Canada is 9.025 Million km^2 vs Great Britain at 242,610 km^2. We are working on mapping it all. Besides we have a lot of areas that has nothing really worth mapping. Cheers from Canada
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Enjoy the waffles so please don’t stop explaining the land. So on CalTopo map app I can make a map of our property and it lets me pick what scale to use. Now I understand that better thank you sir.
So what are the elongated brown coils?
Yet another great video 👍I was interested to learn that maps in other countries are not as good as the UK
I am planning to go on an Italian hike in the Dolomites (Alta Via1) which map would you suggest to purchase?
Someone else (not literate in maps as such) worked out that a measured distance on the map divided by the width of the grid square equals distance in km. Game changer for me, you don’t even need to know the scale or will work if printed in accurately (eg printer scales to fit on page).
The objects you shown look like gabion baskets,used for stabilising slopes and ground.
Can be used for walls and such like.
Absolutely.
Well done I wish I had your knowladge I’m 55 now and only just understanding as your the only person who talks to us like we need, what flask have you got mine is cold after 4 hours
I have a standard Stanley flask. Just got lucky. Most of them will not keep drinks hot for long but mine seem to stay hot for around 48 hours (yep - two days). Oh and I also have a Stanley soup flask - which is brilliant. No I'm not paid by Stanley.
Plus you might need to have more maps at 1:25k - I’m on the corner of four but probably only need one 1:50k.
Are the sausages for reducing wash-off / erosion?
The rope rolls stop the erosion of the soil. And that they suck up high water flows of water, which then slowly evaporate.
This is off topic, but have you hiked Derwent Edge? I came across a series of pictures of that area, my goodness it's beautiful....
No other country has maps like this?
I always had the feeling there are no better maps than the swiss maps (, I am not aware if any square meter not covered and they actually cover part of the neighbour countries terrain as well)...
Would be interesting to see a comparison of maps from different countries.
i cut my teeth on sketches and multi-scale maps. i learned to adjust without effort. on a 1:50,000 which is standard mil, ((along with 1:100,000) which i what i had in iraq,) a rail road line is about a half mile wide. we use a .05 mil pencil and after mastering the protractor, you can lock yourself down to within 10 meters of location every time.
i was good enough to be a senior navigation land nav instructor for my unit and that was a real honor to serve my fellow soldiers.
edit: the rope coils are probably our equivent of erosion control. some people have started to use massive amounts of wood chips and wood debris as it allows plant growth, and while the tanins will leach out, the process is slow enough not to effect plant growth
looks like someone expended a lot of energy to put them out as well as cost.
I believe that those " rope rolls are erosion/ sediment barriers.
We use a similar product around construction sites.
Thanks Alex. They seemed a little strange up there in the hills.
Hey there, Jim from across the pond ,you know from the colonies. LOL. love your channel ,as an ex soldier thank you for helping with a "perishable skill". Was wondering though,i may have missed it but what are your thoughts on the military protractor weve been using since Vietnam? really loved your presentation on the 1-25000 scale being better in close areas builtup and 1-50000 for large terrains. As US ARMY we were trained only on the latter. but dumb question forgive me , is the same method used for n[protractors as us? right and up?. just curious and would love an american military map discussion to hear your thoughts. Youve given me many AHA moments thank you.if i was still in the Army id use your channel as a training aid for navigation training. also the military lensatic compass course. would be great. anyways bye from the colonies....LMAO. love your channel....Jimmy
I have a question: what is the most severe predicament you've ever gotten yourself into while out on a hike? I'm sure you have some stories
No "severe" incidents lately. But like everyone else occasionally "navigationally challenged" . . . . 😊
Mind you - definitely got totally lost on Shishapangma between camp 2 and camp 3 (in my youth). Total whiteout, could see ore than 3m. Not good at 7,500m. Walked for hours to find the camp.
Coir rolls. Most likely, looking at the shot to help reduce erosion. Often used around river/like banks planted up. It would trap the soil and create boggy areas.
I just did a Google search on your suggestion of Coir rolls. They do look similar.
@TheMapReadingCompany
There's quite a lot of info about it's use in Yorkshire peat bog restoration
The rope coils are to stop erosion, I believe.
In all that fog I can't see any contour lines at all.
I just wish the OS Survey would publish their maps in an atlas format. Would be so much easier to carry.
Bit late to tell you this , but ; the old, no longer printed, Phillip's A-Z street atlases were OS gridded.
They covered all of England and Wales but not the whole of Scotland.
You might be able to pick up copies on various web sites that sell second-hand books.
With those waffles youd make a great amateur radio operator! 😂
to prevent soil erosion
Canada is 41 times bigger than the UK and a lot of it remote wilderness,so if you could map all the UK in 20 years it would take 820 to do Canada so I an understand having better maps, most topos are 1:50000 in Canada with supposedly some 1:25000 in certain areas.
Unless you had 41 times as many people mapping it 😉
Its me again the 1 inch scale should be 1:63360. Good you tube
Oppps - I missed a "0". Well spotted
Look like erosion control. Seems that a beginner should the 1:25 scale map do we can make where we are all the time.
Also, you did not mention your sandwich for the day. Like knowing so I can try it out. Thanks
You're wrong. A map scale is a portable device used to weight the mass of your paper maps
Now you're just gonna have to take out a stove, waffle iron and mix just to prove you really are The Waffle King 😇.
Keep up the good waffle fella, cos these videos of yours would be pourer without it (and can I have syrup on mine, please?).
Ps: Whilst I also have no idea what those netted items are either I'm gonna make two ill educated guesses
1st) something to do with subsidence
2nd) newly installed mk3 mole jump gates ready for the National Mole Jumping Festival
Hey, I did say I'll informed 🙄
This is not helping with my obsession for buying OS maps , time for a Quick Look on vinted
You remind me of Kamala Harris - you know, the joy.
Except he thinks and makes sense.
@@videodistro answers questions too.
Oh my god no! She has no clue what she’s talking about!
I love Venn diagrams
We all love yellow buses
Space is exciting
One day we’ll see the craters on the moon through a telescope
We need to be unburdened by what has been
😱🤦🏾