Friends couldn't afford rent. Pooled together to buy homes instead

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  • @fanofbooks9
    @fanofbooks9 3 месяца назад +896

    What a concept-build a community so all your friends can share space, food, child care, & support. Very special group of folks.

    • @anthonywilliams3822
      @anthonywilliams3822 3 месяца назад +3

      @@fanofbooks9 it's simplicity at it's finest!

    • @ecksearoh6283
      @ecksearoh6283 Месяц назад +3

      Hmmm, feelsl ike a cult.

    • @skyelark5511
      @skyelark5511 Месяц назад +11

      @@ecksearoh6283But missing the necessary "control" feature. You can fabricate one if you like, then you can get the "cult" vibes. But the video didn't present one so it absolutely can't feel like a cult.
      But you're a Trumpet Troll . . . so anything for the king! Have to stomp out the competition before it gains ground.

    • @dddaaa6965
      @dddaaa6965 Месяц назад

      ​@@skyelark5511 Calm down schizo, you know for a fact that at the very least someone is or is going to cheat or they are having some kind of SAX night where they swap around in rituals in an attempt to summon an entity.

    • @dddaaa6965
      @dddaaa6965 Месяц назад +4

      @@skyelark5511 4 buildings with 20 ADULTS living in them wtih a CHEF........................wwwwwwhattt is going on in san francisco

  • @Creativezon3
    @Creativezon3 4 месяца назад +1053

    People are hungry to return to community. Epidemic of loneliness and isolation is upon humanity and its great to see these people and others we have come across, doing this in one form or another. When our kids were little, we lived behind a housing co-op and had friends there, so we put a gate in the back fence, so we could come and go. Our kids loved it and as an introvert, I could retreat to our house when it got too much .

    • @pred7949
      @pred7949 4 месяца назад +8

      People abandoning the communities that brought them up because of their own inability to commit, only to join these borderline cult like communities😂 in a rural world of community vs community no one in this video seems like a pillar of strength i would rely on, but good on these folks for forging what they got in the very protected and privileged hamlet of SanFran😂

    • @snowstrobe
      @snowstrobe 4 месяца назад +51

      @@pred7949 Sad to choose to go through life in such a negative frame...

    • @pred7949
      @pred7949 4 месяца назад

      @@snowstrobe cope

    • @snowstrobe
      @snowstrobe 4 месяца назад +32

      @@pred7949 You're clearly the one not coping. Ironic.

    • @pred7949
      @pred7949 4 месяца назад

      @@snowstrobe yea sure helen, you tell yourself whatever you need to to make it through the day sweetie

  • @briangarrow448
    @briangarrow448 4 месяца назад +1299

    This reminds me of the neighborhood where I grew up. We lived on a dead end street and all the neighbors had families and the kids played together and parents could call anyone by just opening up a window. The nice thing was that we had two and three generations living in the same homes. The kids bought the parents house and then the grandkids bought out their parents. My kids played on the same street and woods as I had done 30 years earlier. The story finally changed when the families moved out to other places. My son moved to a small farm, and built a barn with a FIL apartment where I moved to. I have home cooked meals, grandkids to visit with along with dogs, chickens and garden space and fruit trees. I’m sitting on my porch watching this while enjoying the evening sunshine and listening to the birds singing. Life is better with family! BTW- the farm is located on a dead end road where we have three properties that have multiple homes owned by family members.

    • @longgowhereto
      @longgowhereto 4 месяца назад +72

      Nicest story one can imagine. I moved all my life averagely every 18 months -> no family no friends - retirement is close, hope to find people to live as a family by choice - like a little tribe. Lonelyness is a common curse these days.

    • @consciousobserver629
      @consciousobserver629 4 месяца назад +37

      Amazing! You just described my dream! My heart is hungry for that kind of living.

    • @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer
      @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer 4 месяца назад +16

      That’s wonderful.

    • @tyxeri48
      @tyxeri48 4 месяца назад +22

      Life in the Mediterranean where I live was always like this more or less, with a lot more drama sometimes. People got and still get a lot of mockery for adult kids living with families. `

    • @serenakoleno9338
      @serenakoleno9338 4 месяца назад +10

      Thanks for sharing. You're living the dream. ❤❤😊😊

  • @taylorbaumgarten8590
    @taylorbaumgarten8590 3 месяца назад +462

    I am right at 60 and would give anything to be a part of such a community because yes… this is what life is about. So healthy.

    • @Bones97000
      @Bones97000 3 месяца назад

      @@taylorbaumgarten8590 you might like looking into the city of Loma Linda in California. It’s the only Blue Zone in the U.S. and they apparently value community, health, philanthropy, and faith more than the average communities!

    • @rutgers182
      @rutgers182 Месяц назад +5

      there are amazing senior communities. look for one where there are a lot of people who like doing the hobbies you do.

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 3 месяца назад +268

    The purchasing power of a dozen people can accomplish great things. I hope you revisit them in 10 years. Would love to see how they evolve.

    • @Kloutkulture
      @Kloutkulture Месяц назад +9

      @@SoCalFreelance Yes better 10 friends than 10 foreign investment bank

  • @BadaBadger
    @BadaBadger 11 дней назад +56

    My friend group is currently doing this. We're pooling our incomes together, gradually growing it all to live together. We want to make a community for ourselves. There's 5 of us right now.

  • @karinschild9020
    @karinschild9020 3 месяца назад +389

    This is what I know as co-housing. Multiple dwellings with land to support activities, and a central communal kitchen/meeting space. The most important ingredients of course, are cooperation and community-mindedness. Love it!

    • @judymckee5992
      @judymckee5992 3 месяца назад +8

      That is what our 55+ community have , except hiring a cook .

    • @cinbird6284
      @cinbird6284 3 месяца назад +10

      @@karinschild9020 We called it cooperative housing in the Yukon. I studied their co-op for 2 years and it was very interesting. Eventually they built 3 homes on riverfront property.

    • @lorib5323
      @lorib5323 Месяц назад

      ​@@judymckee5992 I like this idea, but as a 50 year old, I want the community, but I want to be around all age groups. Then I could help the young mothers. I would have given anything to have had even a small community to help me with my children.

  • @messinalyle4030
    @messinalyle4030 4 месяца назад +360

    I'm an extreme introvert, and this video demonstrates exactly why I ended up wishing that there were such a thing as life-long on-campus dorm rooms years ago when I lived on campus.
    This is the closest you might ever get to that. Only even better, because look how easily it can grow with you as you move through the various stages of life! And it sounds like these people have formed closer bonds with each other than I ever did with anyone I lived on campus with.

    • @MrJethroha
      @MrJethroha 4 месяца назад +34

      Once upon a time, rooming and boarding houses existed to serve that function, but that form of housing has largely fallen by the wayside except in the form of halfway houses

    • @bjlyon615
      @bjlyon615 4 месяца назад +18

      @@MrJethroha Yes, my first independent living situation was a residence club in San Francisco where I got a room, access to a community bath and two meals a day for $90 per month. That was in 1967. Coincidentally, I later ended up in a half-way house but that’s another story.

    • @Hope-fv3kf
      @Hope-fv3kf 4 месяца назад +13

      Introvert with all these people ? Not for me

    • @okra3000
      @okra3000 3 месяца назад +5

      Their living arrangements don't even seem cost effective.

    • @finally97
      @finally97 3 месяца назад +10

      I'm an extreme extrovert, too. However, I believe that this would be perfect for us. Because I worked in senior housing as well as have elders in my family/extended family, this community could be your saving grace. Ideally, your friends know you well enough to respect your boundaries while still checking in to make sure that you are okay. This way you don't get lost in the busyness of life. I couldn't do this with family but friends? Absolutely. I guess it helps that we are all introverts.

  • @denasewell
    @denasewell 2 месяца назад +126

    FYI for anyone out there like me who did not know what an ADU is ... An Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) is a small, independent home or apartment on the same property as a single-family home.

    • @angelesmeza425
      @angelesmeza425 Месяц назад +6

      @@denasewell Thanks!! I was like what’s an ADU. 🤣😆😂

    • @meredithheath5272
      @meredithheath5272 14 дней назад +2

      Me, too - I stopped Kirsten's video to look it up, and now I have learned a new acronym!

    • @keelane2575
      @keelane2575 13 дней назад

      @@angelesmeza425 Same here lol much appreciated!

  • @KatieReadsKoziesAndMore
    @KatieReadsKoziesAndMore 4 месяца назад +477

    I am happy living alone. I started as an only child for the first 11 years of my life. Parents divorced/remarried and I only had half- and step-siblings on the weekends. I couldn’t imagine this lifestyle in a million years. But I am so happy to know it exists. I do believe “villages” of people make great families. Thanks to all of you for sharing this with us.

    • @sashabenoit1518
      @sashabenoit1518 3 месяца назад +73

      This sounds great in theory and I'm sure for extroverts it's an absolute dream but as an extreme introvert, sharing my private space, people being able to look in my windows and me see into theirs, not being able to come and go from my house without bumping into my neighbors is literally my nightmare! 😅
      Although I definitely wouldn't mind having a personal chef cooking for me.. I might just put up with the other stuff just for the home cooked meals! Lol

    • @avancalledrupert5130
      @avancalledrupert5130 3 месяца назад +3

      That's not a village. A village exists on its own in the countryside mate.

    • @KatieReadsKoziesAndMore
      @KatieReadsKoziesAndMore 3 месяца назад +38

      @@avancalledrupert5130 Mate? I assume you are from Great Britain? Yes, you have real villages in your very old nation. When I visited this lovely country the sense of place was real. But urban America is a melting pot of people of many races, religions, and all the rest. What brings us together, as an American village, is a sense of caring for those around us. The old lady who hugs your dogs when you walk them. The old men who hold a door when your hands are full. The neighbor who looks out for your kids when crazy drivers zoom down the street where children play. We city-folk do not have the luxury of quiet idyllic landscapes to call home. So we look out for each other. We are not up in each other’s business. We do not necessarily know everyone’s names. But we are ready with a smile and we notice when your life seems off. Villages in American cities are felt in our hearts. It is a lovely sense of place and belonging. Peace.

    • @sashabenoit1518
      @sashabenoit1518 3 месяца назад +6

      @@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore I think the word you are looking for is Community...
      And the UK is also extremely diverse, more diverse than America in a lot of areas.

    • @avancalledrupert5130
      @avancalledrupert5130 3 месяца назад +5

      @@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore That's a country but not a village. I have seen many places in America that I would class as a village. But they seem to call them one horse towns .
      Ive seen beautiful places in colarado like pagosa springs or Silverton and Auray that I would class as a village. But they call them small towns . But a village inside a city is just odd.

  • @YellaBellaReno
    @YellaBellaReno 3 месяца назад +181

    We don’t all need our own lawnmower, because we don’t all mow our lawns everyday; there’s so much more we could be sharing. I’ve been saying that and talking about doing this since I was a teenager, and over the last 20 years, so have more and more and more of my friends. It’s regulations and zoning that makes it hard. Plus, it’s not easy competing with builders for land in/near a big city. But I love seeing that it CAN be done. Like, “Look! Look! The’re doing it!”
    Also, I can’t have kids, so this would be sooooo nice. All my friends have little ones, and I would happily see them and care for them more with this sort of setup. That is missing from my life, so this would be incredibly fulfilling. Thank you for all your videos, but extra for this one. ❤️

    • @kindredanastasia
      @kindredanastasia 3 месяца назад +11

      Community tool libraries for tools, yard work items, and cooking implements are catching on in communities across the country. They're often near coffee shops that host cooking, crafting, or repair nights where neighbors help neighbors repair items, sometimes chipping in to pay a visiting expert repairman to teach.

    • @YellaBellaReno
      @YellaBellaReno 3 месяца назад

      @@kindredanastasia that’s beautiful! I love hearing it. 🥰

    • @elenalizabeth
      @elenalizabeth 2 месяца назад +3

      I’d want a community goat 😂 like a pet goat that is moved between the different grassed areas that need trimming each day. As long as it couldn’t get near the veggie garden or there’d be no more veggies.
      Or maybe a team of Guinea pigs (but they need to be in a big open-bottom cage so that birds cannot grab them)

    • @YellaBellaReno
      @YellaBellaReno 2 месяца назад +2

      @@elenalizabeth I also want a community goat! I had a neighbor with goats and they do a good job of clearing brush out. I just want to raise goats with my neighbors and make cheese and soap. 😂

    • @leechrec
      @leechrec 13 дней назад +1

      Yeah regulations and zoning really kills a lot of community possibilities. We can't even have a village bakery nearby because of zoning in our neighborhood.

  • @sun1one1
    @sun1one1 3 месяца назад +871

    Chosen community, and a paid cook rather than a family member who is effectively a servant. Awesome.

    • @Hacknerspeaks8938
      @Hacknerspeaks8938 3 месяца назад +153

      @@LauraB.335 you’ve missed her point entirely. She is saying the cook is paid RATHER THAN a family member who is put upon to cook for everyone without compensation.

    • @BetterDays_Now
      @BetterDays_Now 3 месяца назад +4

      True

    • @Ebizzill
      @Ebizzill 3 месяца назад

      @@LauraB.335 mothers tend to be the unintentional servants.

    • @hamingnu6610
      @hamingnu6610 2 месяца назад

      @@Hacknerspeaks8938 It's honestly a pretty good solution for today's society of 'work a 9-5, be a CEO, be born rich, or die'.
      Everyone's got their own lives to attend to no matter how tight the community is and it's hard to not just assume that a given family let alone a community home has 0 people who wouldn't enjoy NOT needing to be a cook every day for a bunch of people when they've got a job elsewhere to be tired from too.
      Until we can get back a more reasonable work culture, hiring a home cook is a pretty good solution for those who have the base capital monthly to do so. Probably not a solution for the average family, but in a big community full of working professionals, definitely a good investment.

    • @Sundji
      @Sundji 2 месяца назад +9

      @@Hacknerspeaks8938 That's what they said. unless they edited the thing you're talking about.

  • @romaboutilier8462
    @romaboutilier8462 3 месяца назад +144

    This is a great concept we need to do this aging seniors. 😊

    • @jparrottmerrell
      @jparrottmerrell 3 месяца назад +13

      Agreed. I’m a person with disabilities from birth and a lifelong power wheelchair user. I think this kind of housing model would be so wonderful for so many seniors and so many people with disabilities who need or want to live separately but also who need care and friendship too. Seniors and people with disabilities could live in one space, while caregivers lived in another space close by. And if the caregivers had children or pets, the seniors and people with disabilities could help care for them as well. But like another person said above, it does take a lot of emotional intelligence to live in this way. Most people nowadays just don’t have that.

    • @judithshelton5655
      @judithshelton5655 3 месяца назад +4

      I would do this.

    • @investingwithkat
      @investingwithkat 3 месяца назад

      @@romaboutilier8462 golden girls

  • @visualdog
    @visualdog 4 месяца назад +404

    Amazing so many people are so compatible. Must be very responsible socially intelligent people. One difficult person could create chaos!

    • @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer
      @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer 4 месяца назад +26

      Not if the rest of them didn’t buy into it.

    • @Here4TheHeckOfIt
      @Here4TheHeckOfIt 4 месяца назад +53

      It is amazing because people are crazy, warring monkeys. But these people seem to utilize the very things needed to coexist peacefully - mutual consideration, following basic rules, etc.

    • @AriFay-Long
      @AriFay-Long 4 месяца назад

      Okay but obvi these are mostly economically advantaged white people in a historically Black working class neighborhood in Oakland.

    • @christinemose7308
      @christinemose7308 4 месяца назад +1

      Yep.

    • @robyndismon394
      @robyndismon394 4 месяца назад

      @@RevdUp.Art.Fotografer Not always true. There was a psychopath living in an upscale apartment building in New York city. He terrorized EVERYONE who walked IN and out of those doors all day everyday.
      Meetings were held, complaints filed with management and the authorities countless times. The man was arrested several times but never changed his behavior. He made their lives a living h*'ll!
      Nothing the tenants did worked.

  • @joeyhachtman7612
    @joeyhachtman7612 3 месяца назад +77

    There's the family you're born to and the family you choose. Instead of wanting more for themselves, they achieve a better standard of living through sharing. I just love it!

  • @nahum3557
    @nahum3557 4 месяца назад +105

    It's interesting the huge impact that 'village' style living can have on peoples' lives. 'It takes a village' can relate to children growing up but also just the affect that a good community has on the quality of life of all the people that live within it

  • @ZERODESTRUCTION
    @ZERODESTRUCTION 4 месяца назад +162

    Thank you Kirsten, for always bringing videos that are watchable, thought provoking, and inspiring!

    • @lisamcandrews5739
      @lisamcandrews5739 3 месяца назад +1

      Why is there a 13 minute commercial before your broadcast comes on?

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад

      @@lisamcandrews5739 You should be able to skip long ads on RUclips.

  • @Sarah-xw2ff
    @Sarah-xw2ff 4 месяца назад +107

    I think this is an excellent idea and I applaud the group that got together to come up with this solution to work together to conquer so many of life's problems with something better. Living in a one family in the city or burbs, often housing is prohibitively expensive, yard maintenance is overly time consuming, cooking every night isn't something anyone wants to do, childcare is laughably expensive and we don't get to see or enjoy time with our friends and neighbors nearly as much as we'd like. They divide, conquer and get to enjoy life more with less stress! I feel like the people levelling criticism in the comments don't have very good complex analytical skills.

    • @consciousobserver629
      @consciousobserver629 4 месяца назад +15

      You nailed it honestly, or they know they are messy/a bit lazy and wouldn't be able to contribute enough to keep it going. I absolutely LOVE this concept and have been wanting to do something similar with my siblings, but they live all over. It's smart though.

    • @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer
      @RevdUp.Art.Fotografer 4 месяца назад +8

      Or don’t have deep friendships.

  • @suziseha369
    @suziseha369 4 месяца назад +73

    I love this way of living. It makes so much sense. And if you have a great family (I know not everyone does!) then having the family live like this with all the generations adding their value, is just wonderful!

  • @larse9999
    @larse9999 3 месяца назад +275

    I am now a president of any HOA of townhomes. I had moved from Hawaii to the east coast. For the first few years I was so disappointed that there was not a sense of community in our HOA and not much aloha spirit. The majority of people just wanted to close their doors and shut each other out. Didn't help that we do not have a communal building. This all changed when we experienced hurricane Sandy and power was out for days. I brought out my camping gear and began communal cooking meals. Over the years we've experienced terrible blizzards, and storms- all of which made neighbors realize that we need each other, and that life was better when we worked together. I introduced garages as communal gathering places, as that is what people do on the islands. We've since had many potluck parties and spontaneous gatherings, movie nights outside and many a holiday and life's celebrations. We didn't chose our neighbors but they've grown to be our friends and extended family whom we love and care for. Its nice to know I am not alone and I have several close friends that I can trust and count on in an emergency and just in general. We look out for each other and we feel so fortunate to live in our neighborhood that is safe and comfortable.

    • @pickles9440
      @pickles9440 3 месяца назад +6

      Good to hear, i am moving from kauai to South Carolina due to outrageous inflation.

    • @millsykooksy4863
      @millsykooksy4863 3 месяца назад +5

      this is beautiful

    • @kelmac1618
      @kelmac1618 3 месяца назад +24

      @@larse9999 the nature of HOAs, in creating a group of neighbors to police others, isn’t supportive of a community sense.

    • @larse9999
      @larse9999 3 месяца назад +4

      @@kelmac1618 I agree but sometimes you have to police when its comes to public safety or property value. For example unless its something that will endanger someone, we do not harass unit owners. Put there are occasions where people park and block people in, or do not allowed egress in a fire lane, or whose children do things like play with fire, or people leaving unsecured rubbish outside, etc. These are the things that must be addressed. The holiday decorations and planters, etc, don't need harsh reactions.

    • @kelmac1618
      @kelmac1618 3 месяца назад +8

      @@larse9999 That’s a rare HOA approach. Communities have resorted to having many HOAs to police neighborhoods, for a fee - so that municipal entities can wash their hands of that reponsibility. I find it atrocious that people willingly put their investments at risk since HOA can essentially foreclose on your home due to fees when the fees go up and up. It’s exploitation of the intention you’re focusing on. You know?

  • @kontrygrll01amerika54
    @kontrygrll01amerika54 Месяц назад +10

    So nice to see people working together cooperatively and they are so mellow together. Peaceful and it all works together with good flow. This is what I wished for back in the 1970s but males had to argue with one another instead of finding a way to work together. These are great people and the video makes me wonder what they all do for a living so they work so well together. This is community.

  • @samipso
    @samipso 4 месяца назад +64

    I love that they touch on how this is perfect for introverts.
    I've spent many years living in shared housing as an introvert and it's always filled me with an intense sense of freedom and fulfillment.

  • @kathleenlankford6027
    @kathleenlankford6027 4 месяца назад +67

    You can choose your neighbors......perfect!!!❤

  • @blueman5924
    @blueman5924 4 месяца назад +38

    Pretty cool arrangement. I like that there seems to be no hard feelings when it’s time to “move on”, even if it is just down the street. 👍👍

  • @usflin
    @usflin 3 месяца назад +161

    Based on this video's title I thought they would touch on the financial aspect, which was totally skipped over. I have no idea if this setup is cheaper, the same, or more expensive than living in a non-communal unit in the same area. Or if they're all living here because they want community living but the costs are irrelevant. Given that a friend came from their own house down the street, it seems like it's not actually cheaper to live here, if they can afford to move out and still be within walking distance.

    • @YellaBellaReno
      @YellaBellaReno 3 месяца назад +38

      I imagine it is cheaper. Does that mean they’re spending less? Provably not… but they’re getting more. I imagine banding together and forming an LLC gave them much better buying power to compete with builders and investors.

    • @waggermama
      @waggermama 3 месяца назад +37

      @@usflin whilst property costs might be the same, I imagine childcare costs, food costs and building management expenses must be lower.

    • @Brian-jv8iy
      @Brian-jv8iy 3 месяца назад +6

      They all might afford living alone, so their friend saved up as much as they needed and moved out

    • @LaughingInTiny
      @LaughingInTiny 3 месяца назад +17

      It really depends on the how and where. Zoning restrictions and permits like he mentioned can cause issues and increase costs, BUT most cities are currently trying to grapple with housing crises and need to look for alternatives. So working with the planning commission or relevant city planning department is a possibility.
      The costs of living communally are generally MUCH lower. Even buying food for example... most buy in bulk at restaurant quantities which gives you incredible leverage if done properly. The same is true for what's referred to as "barn building". So anything that needs building or doing en masse can be done "in house" simply by way of having extended resources. Maybe one person's brother is an electrician, another person's father is an accountant or has connections wherever needed. It becomes like one large family.
      The biggest benefit, even for introverted people, is the social fabric. Our health, both mental and physical are greatly impacted by our access to community. Whether you're extremely rural and isolated, or extremely urban and isolated, it has a negative impact. Having people who look out for you and whom you can connect with when it works for you is beneficial. The benefits of good health are intrinsically cost effective.
      So basically the house purchase is only a fragment of how it's a financially opportune way to look at housing. Especially if you start quite young, where you're already probably living with roommates. If people realize that they can buy instead of rent, it will save them thousands.

    • @Ebizzill
      @Ebizzill 3 месяца назад +14

      I imagine it makes life a bit cheaper overall. Because they can access co-working space, internet, streaming services, sauna, babysitting, free garage, FOOD, each of these alone cost a pretty penny when added up, and imagine, being so fulfilled in such an environment your monthly therapy costs is reduced or none because of this.

  • @janieterrel681
    @janieterrel681 4 месяца назад +30

    What an amazing concept for urban living. I have seen farm coops before, but this is the first time I have seen anything like this in a city environment…totally love it 👍🏽💕❣️❣️

  • @latebloomerabroad
    @latebloomerabroad 4 месяца назад +78

    I would do this in a heartbeat with friends that I trust. Especially in the Bay Area, this was a brilliant idea!

  • @AmyAURA
    @AmyAURA 3 месяца назад +36

    Needs a follow up, how do they share chores and split up bills, who cleans and how they pay for food. What happens if there is a disagreement between how things are run. Do they vote Etc

    • @CarlaSantorini
      @CarlaSantorini 19 дней назад +4

      Yes I'd love to learn about these topics as well!!

    • @tennesseeterri
      @tennesseeterri 16 дней назад +3

      I was wondering the same thing

  • @Strylover
    @Strylover 4 месяца назад +66

    They built a "village"....nice.
    I do wonder about the idea that they consider themselves to be many "introverts".
    I consider myself to be an introvert and I am not sure how it would feel to live in such an open, shared way with so many others.
    But I like what they have done here.

    • @hollyshaw-elliemae
      @hollyshaw-elliemae 3 месяца назад +28

      feels like going to camp permanatly. im hella introverted but this looks like something i could do. you can always dip off into your own place and close the door to be alone i guess :)

    • @Ebizzill
      @Ebizzill 3 месяца назад +10

      I like the idea that there's spaces where you can go to that are closed off. I am an introvert myself and I have those long stretched moments where I need my isolation and then I have those moments where this setup will benefit me. Hell, I think that if I had something like this, my long isolation stretches would decrease because I have some place to go that is familiar and accessible.

    • @AnneCaulder
      @AnneCaulder 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Strylover This introvert finds that way too many people, and I would love to see more generations together since I don’t think I’m going to get grandbabies of my own, so I’m looking to adopt them. LOL

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +3

      @@AnneCaulder I knew when I watched, that people would misinterpret that part. She only meant for her ADU-home and out towards the common area. They only really showed the ADU where the family likes the openness, and another ADU that was the actual common area. The other living spaces were so private, we didn't even see them! As far as I saw, none of the drone videos were able to see into any of the bedrooms of the 4 other buildings. And a few people also had homes down the street. So introverts could absolutely take part in a venture like this, and have as much privacy as any urban dwelling.

  • @bjlyon615
    @bjlyon615 4 месяца назад +142

    Interesting living arrangement. Reminds me of the 60’s without the drugs.

    • @MrGwizyadig
      @MrGwizyadig 4 месяца назад +22

      I'm sure there are some drugs lol

    • @youcanknowanything8489
      @youcanknowanything8489 3 месяца назад +1

      @@bjlyon615 Walden 2?

    • @Ebizzill
      @Ebizzill 3 месяца назад +1

      lmao!!!

    • @CS-mv3nw
      @CS-mv3nw 3 месяца назад +1

      It’s like the small town that I grew up in. 50’s & 60’s

  • @gfdthree1
    @gfdthree1 3 месяца назад +35

    Great news story. This could be the future. We’re social creatures and this set-up is so healthy. Financially it makes sense too

  • @rudetuesday
    @rudetuesday 3 месяца назад +31

    I like how considerate they are about the quality of time they're spending together. The psychology is very interesting and relationship-focused, and very warm.

    • @ChrisNymanWeller
      @ChrisNymanWeller 2 месяца назад

      I grew up, as a child, in both successful and unsuccessful communes. I think the KEY is to have both private and public space. And clear rules & expectations… that cohabitants respect.

  • @MalinaCC
    @MalinaCC 2 месяца назад +16

    I love that they have a kids yard and an adults yard. It’s kind of like having a semi private park that you can go to when needed but you know who is there and you can easily keep an eye out for each other’s kids. Having your own homes is key in this layout so you have privacy of your own space but community! Sounds like a great concept for families with kids and seniors.

  • @TEPO--
    @TEPO-- 4 месяца назад +17

    I have thoroughly enjoyed numerous episodes as you delve into architecture, environments, cultural and personal stories of our diverse human habits. As a person that has experienced several unconventional, wonderful and much loved living approaches over 50 years, Radish is an absolute delight. An example of community, connection, individuality health, beauty, creativity and actually living lighter on the earth rather than the weight of indiviual/isolated living approaches. From my perspective as the differnt seasons of our lives shift, our desires tend to also and the beauty of flexablity, adaptability while valuing lifelong creative approaches that nurture relationships, joy, depth, laughter and individual expression along the way nurtures optimum health and wellness and vibrant living.
    Wonderful and much appreciated this Radish expression of community.

  • @matureyoungman
    @matureyoungman 4 месяца назад +64

    Wonderful adults. The world would be a much _much_ better place if the managerial & creative class held their ideals.

  • @kbdefay
    @kbdefay 4 месяца назад +132

    This is the way we were supposed to live.

    • @ryanb418
      @ryanb418 3 месяца назад +5

      Are you sure?

    • @bastionwolf
      @bastionwolf 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ryanb418 without a doubt.

    • @imamountainheadtoo
      @imamountainheadtoo 2 месяца назад

      @@ryanb418 who knows? But this, is really cool!

    • @imamountainheadtoo
      @imamountainheadtoo 2 месяца назад

      @@ryanb418 and you're a lousy internet troll, what's up fam?

    • @Wednesdaywoe1975
      @Wednesdaywoe1975 22 дня назад +1

      Yes. This is the village.

  • @jazz3799
    @jazz3799 3 месяца назад +37

    I crave this sense of community. A few of my friends have talked about building something similar together. I want to be further out in nature and with yards that are visible to each other but not quite so compact, though.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 4 месяца назад +10

    When are kids were toddlers we lived in a
    Cul-te-sac with my mother and dad
    (Gma & Gpa), my family and my brothers family. It was very nice the kids could go
    back and fourth. See Gma & Gpa took turns
    watching kids. It was really wonderful.
    This is a cool idea. Like a small town.
    Thanks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂

  • @ginamariec81
    @ginamariec81 3 месяца назад +17

    I think this is great! As a new mom it is very isolating. Would be awesome to walk outside and have a community.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +2

      Back in 2016, we had 2 kids under 2 years old. We were lucky to have friends nearby, and family coming to visit. We moved in 2019, and got a house with space for my dad to live with us. He pays a lot less than he would for an apartment, my wife and I have more freedom with my dad home with the kids. We eat meals together sometimes and he helps us pay a for a housekeeper a few hours a month. There are compromises, of course. I'd love to have a small ADU for my dad in the backyard. But having grandpa around is good for him, and the kids.

  • @CASADELSOULVIDMIXTV
    @CASADELSOULVIDMIXTV Месяц назад +8

    Love the concept but I think it's really important to discuss power dynamics, how big decisions are made, etc. That's how these type of community living situations usually fail.

  • @lamdao1242
    @lamdao1242 3 месяца назад +13

    I raised my kids in a gated university community. It was so easy to raise our children because they all played together and would run in & out of their friends home. The kids played together and essentially raised each other. The kids regulate each other. They have to learn to get along or they would learn to manage the bossy kid.
    As a parent you do need to keep an eye on the dynamics but it did work out.

  • @johnatyoutube
    @johnatyoutube 3 месяца назад +22

    This looks like a fancy college dorm to me. You could also call it a commune. I can see how it helps introverts overcome isolation. And it seems like a good choice for early 20 somethings who aren't quite ready to leave the nest. I'd love to see a model like this for retitees, but with a bit more private space.

    • @gblakev
      @gblakev 3 месяца назад +4

      Basically, it’s not a commune because they don’t share their incomes. They have private living units - apartments to which they can go anytime. I agree this arrangement would be great for older adults too. Or even better if they were various ages including older adults. Many intentional communities include older adults.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +1

      A lot of people have said they want senior living options like this. I already see senior condo communities with homes close together. The idea of a shared food & chef budget, and a common area is great, and should become a model for condo HOA to organize.

  • @bijoux-hw9dh
    @bijoux-hw9dh 3 месяца назад +14

    I’m getting extremely envious here. WOW. This is so nice and those kids will have beautiful stories to tell about their childhood 👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️

  • @RottenlyMoodyChild
    @RottenlyMoodyChild 4 месяца назад +42

    I love stories like this. Basically anything about how zoning regulation reform has allowed people to reclaim urban land use and space to create healthier and happier communities. Unfortunately things like this are illegal in most of the US. We desperately need housing and zoning reform to allow communities like this upzoning, ADUs, tiny house communities, mixed use multifamily medium density, single stair point access blocks, etc.
    They basically made their own baugruppen 💚

    • @BS-detector
      @BS-detector 3 месяца назад +5

      I encourage you to write often to legislators to pass laws that allow for your vision. If enough people do this on a regular basis, better laws will be passed.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +2

      Go to City council meetings. It's a local thing and your voice has a big impact. A lot of times, folks at the city government just haven't heard of this stuff. There's not always a young urbanist in the City Hall building to explain this, and even if there is, the "electeds" want to "hear from the community" on issues like this. If you stand up you might also inspire other residents at the meeting. Then you can talk to them, and direct them to Strong Towns and Not Just Bikes. Do you have a local Strong Towns meeting you can go to?

  • @tarabooartarmy3654
    @tarabooartarmy3654 3 месяца назад +26

    Must be nice to have friends you can trust to this level. Having been betrayed several times, I’ve lost trust in the vast majority of people. So thankful I have a husband I can trust with all my heart who is a true partner and my best friend. These people are blessed to know each other!

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +3

      I had some bad experiences with shared living with friends when I was in my 20's. A lot of people are still finding themselves. Some of the people who struggled back then have really come into their own in their 30's. They mentioned that they weren't friends with everyone at first; there were a few new people. That got me thinking. I always have this thought in my head of a bunch of friends from the old days getting together, but if I could find just even 2 other families to start, and then find other like minds to join the project.

  • @janeysiegrist5061
    @janeysiegrist5061 4 месяца назад +20

    You guys find the most amazing person and places. Everyone you meet has a wonderful story. I love this channel so much.

  • @VegasPokerNomad
    @VegasPokerNomad Месяц назад +7

    They couldn't afford rent but they could afford to buy 4 houses and pay to build 2 more houses?

  • @SandraNelson063
    @SandraNelson063 3 месяца назад +17

    This is a wonderful way to raise children. How secure they must feel knowing that every adult around them will be a guardian.

  • @happycamperslivehere.6101
    @happycamperslivehere.6101 Месяц назад +5

    I am in my fifties. For the past few years, my friends and I have shared a lot where we take our campers for the summer. We live much the way you are describing for much of the summer. Most of have jobs, so we are not all together all summer long, but the RVs stay on the lot and people come and go. I call it playing house for grown up. It is great for many of the reasons you have described. We can socialize as much as we want, and go to our own space when we want. Raising kids in this way is like easing them in a small town, within the city. I think it is great!

  • @ninez2698
    @ninez2698 3 месяца назад +6

    I couldn’t imagine me living in this type of setting. I very much cherish and enjoy my very private home and my own little world. But I so appreciate other people’s living choices. This is a very interesting eye opening modern trend. I do wish you all live in harmony and enjoy the big extended family happiness ❤️🙏👍

  • @kiza4178
    @kiza4178 4 месяца назад +9

    Pure family enrichment in the best way! How awesome to allow yourself to be free in friendship.

  • @dinkyshopYT
    @dinkyshopYT 3 месяца назад +9

    Interesting.
    1 How is the cleaning, especially bathrooms, kitchens, communal spaces and the yards handled? Those doors open create a lot of dirt inside.
    2. Is ownership and expenses pro-rated by equity? Is that how the construction was financed?
    3. How do you handle repairs, and reserves? What happens if someone has $$ problems?
    4. How is the cost of the common space costs prorated?

  • @ShellyBomb
    @ShellyBomb 3 месяца назад +15

    🏡🏠🏡🏠🏡 ~ This is such a wonderful community for not only young families, but seniors too 🥰

  • @hollyshaw-elliemae
    @hollyshaw-elliemae 3 месяца назад +8

    i had a snarky comment in my pocket about oakland and im glad i kept it in my pocket. this place is gorgeous. id love to live in a small community with friends. id need that many friends but...lol

  • @garlicgirl3149
    @garlicgirl3149 9 дней назад +1

    This was extraordinary! I always envied my mom's generation that grew up near family...down the street. I feel fortunate that I had great neighbors that are like family.

  • @islandgirl75
    @islandgirl75 3 месяца назад +5

    I think it's so lovely that this system gives them a life with quality. For me, this would be a nightmare. :D But it's whatever makes people happy and it's so nice they found what works for all of them. As someone who absolutely LOVES being alone, I would feel constantly overwhelmed by all the talking and activity.

  • @meredithheath5272
    @meredithheath5272 14 дней назад

    Kirsten, and Family - you've done it - again! And I learned a new acronym - ADU!
    Excellent research work!!
    ( And, the new building is very spacious feeling, while that large kitchen is very, very nice!!)
    💙💗🏅

  • @CarrieMHB222
    @CarrieMHB222 3 месяца назад +4

    😮 This is so different and cool. I smiled the whole time watching this. Fantastic idea.

  • @9catlover
    @9catlover 3 месяца назад +12

    even though i couldn't live like this as i am an introvert and prefer the company of close family and cats, i really admire they all got together and built this. i couldn't stop watching this and admiring them for creating this community

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +2

      There's probably a cat introvert in one of the 6 units that have so much privacy, we never saw inside of them. They only showed the actual common area, and a family living in an ADU they designed to be a semi-common area. That's what I love about this; the different buildings allow for different use cases.

  • @karadecker8764
    @karadecker8764 28 дней назад +3

    I’m older and single. Have been a teacher and have other professional skills I could provide. Would love to start or be part of a community like this but wouldn’t know where or how but I’ve been dreaming of something like this for years. My absolute dream as I go into retirement. A village of young and old supporting one another ❤

  • @4happythoughts
    @4happythoughts Месяц назад +2

    Iove this concept! I saw these buildings being built and remodeled through the years since I work at the hospital next door. Always wanted to know how I can build my own since I too never have enough to buy my own house. Looooove!! Thank you for highlighting this

  • @beck1365
    @beck1365 3 месяца назад +7

    This looks wonderful. I wish they would have talked a bit about conflict resolution too. That would be essential for this to work long term

  • @user-cd3nb6yg8z
    @user-cd3nb6yg8z 3 месяца назад +2

    This was so fascinating. I’m an introvert but I could see living here in my thirties with children. Now that I’m 67, I adore the peace and quiet of living alone with my husband. We even moved out of the city and onto a 20 acres rural property.

  • @joannejohnson7006
    @joannejohnson7006 4 месяца назад +4

    Community 😊 this was great. The living areas can be adjusted for different living situations. Really enjoyed this thanks

  • @dawn-from-the-lab
    @dawn-from-the-lab 3 месяца назад +2

    I’ve been wanting to do this with those closets to me! Over the past 2 years, I’ve cut a lot of people out of my life. Now my circle is very small and I want those left, that got me through the hardest times in my life, closer to me. I love this so much. We are not meant to live in isolated homes like we do; we are social creatures.

  • @Tawadeb
    @Tawadeb 4 месяца назад +18

    Café Fig is adorable 🥰

  • @creativehands-w8d
    @creativehands-w8d 17 дней назад +1

    My mother would thrive here. Being around two younger generations, she has a wealth of experience with life, is lonely and has a lot to offer. As sooo many other grandparents do and are in her situation. I too am an introvert but this is the type of interaction I’ve always yearned for. What an enriching environment for everyone. Hope we see more of this in the future.

  • @jayembee2109
    @jayembee2109 4 месяца назад +19

    Love your videos Kirsten, always so uplifting

  • @V4D2
    @V4D2 7 дней назад

    guys… THANK You. Thank! you..really . from the very core of my being.
    i’ve watched this twice, in 2 days.
    what a great way to begin 2025. This might be my favourite video of yours. i reckon i’ll be watching it periodically.
    this is what i wanted to make with my friends, years ago.
    i myself had thought about creating such an online network back then..
    as an architect.. i am now writing fiction based on such an approach.. but i finally see proof of it _ this group of friends not only created it, but they are Living it !
    Kudos to the group of friends , truly,
    and thank you again, guys, for showing it to us.
    Portuguese salutations :)

  • @mog068
    @mog068 4 месяца назад +4

    I want this so bad.
    We're in Charlottesville, Virginia. Have lived in the same 1938 house since 1995 and we have heavily customized and improved it. So it is going to take a massive force to get us to move.
    No kids. But ever since I saw collective child care in the "yard" in Jamaica also 1995, I've known that the everybody has their own, no sharing model is not good and it costs too much. Elder care is the other frontier which I will soon enough be facing.
    Finding the right balance of community and privacy is what we need. This is inspiring and thank you.

  • @ah64dwife82
    @ah64dwife82 3 месяца назад

    This makes me tear up it’s such a wonderful concept. But concept sounds clinical…it’s like the wonderful days of small towns or places in the city where we all knew our neighbors. Reminds me also of our days living on Army posts all over the world. They were my neighbors, family, the people still important to me today, 40 some years later. Love this!!!!!❤

  • @azsinger49
    @azsinger49 4 месяца назад +14

    Being a napper, I loved the bed under the stairs. I like sleeping in small spaces like that.

    • @Ventura574
      @Ventura574 3 месяца назад

      I have a bed tent. Lol. I love it. It's like being in my own cave, and it's so cozy during the winter. I have one of those U-shaped body pillows under the mattress pad, too. Like having a nest.

  • @Rantsack
    @Rantsack 2 месяца назад +3

    They have money for rent, but just don’t want to pay rent anymore and want to buy a house. There’s a difference.

  • @19katsandcounting
    @19katsandcounting 4 месяца назад +47

    It’s an exciting experiment. I’d like to see where they are in 5 years. I hope it works out and everyone continues to respect each other.

    • @serenakoleno9338
      @serenakoleno9338 4 месяца назад +13

      Sounds like they have already spent years doing this.

    • @19katsandcounting
      @19katsandcounting 4 месяца назад +1

      @@serenakoleno9338 it’s interesting because most communes don’t work out but this one is sort of a hybrid.

    • @larsstougaard7097
      @larsstougaard7097 4 месяца назад +7

      He said they have been there 6 years

    • @19katsandcounting
      @19katsandcounting 4 месяца назад +1

      @@larsstougaard7097 let’s see if they get the 7 year itch

  • @nutsbutdum
    @nutsbutdum 4 месяца назад +110

    "Does anyone have dietary restrictions?"... "We have a chart."
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the most Bay Area conversation ever outered!😂

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 2 месяца назад +5

      *uttered, and yes. Of course now I can't eat red meat due to Long Covid, so (like many Bay Area things) dietary restrictions are becoming more common.

    • @mozamboni
      @mozamboni 2 месяца назад

      @@Nphen *Vaccine Injury - You're welcome ;-)

  • @valk7229
    @valk7229 3 месяца назад +4

    Great idea. Would be interested in the cost per member and cost of upkeep of the common areas and features such as the hot tub, sauna and RV.

  • @ShioriWhitefeather
    @ShioriWhitefeather 2 месяца назад +3

    It's a dorm hall. That's what this is, an adult's dormatory.
    It's perfect. 😍

  • @9catlover
    @9catlover 3 месяца назад +9

    i imagine if they are a lot older it will also really help them that people are around. i wish there was more of this community living.

  • @kimcaudle125
    @kimcaudle125 3 месяца назад +8

    This community of friends is awesome!

  • @cynthiamilo5571
    @cynthiamilo5571 5 дней назад +3

    Couldn’t afford rent, but, could afford multi million dollar property?

  • @tammyburke9453
    @tammyburke9453 3 месяца назад +2

    one of her BEST but geez, there are no bad podcasts! with Kristen ,just the best!

  • @GeneralKenobi69420
    @GeneralKenobi69420 17 дней назад +6

    Step 1: have friends

  • @Bill.R.124
    @Bill.R.124 14 дней назад +1

    Love this. Seems like a hodgepodge of buildings, some not "that" attractive, but the communal area and "closed community" idea is wonderful. I didn't watch it all, but surely some sensitive issues about who owns what parts/buildings and what would happened in, for example, a divorce, or someone moving due to work.

  • @99trees
    @99trees 2 дня назад

    I feel that in order to live this type of lifestyle, there must exist a tremendous amount of trust. I believe there are not many people who could qualify. Kudos 🥂🕊️💕

  • @its-all-good
    @its-all-good 4 месяца назад +16

    I live and is from Oakland. So happy you came here 💛💚

  • @koffeewithkandee
    @koffeewithkandee Месяц назад +2

    This is the dream! Definitely gave me ideas and will be checking out their website

  • @jillismyname
    @jillismyname 3 месяца назад +7

    Love this. I'm curious who does the dishes/cleans the common spaces. That was always a sore spot when I had roommates.🙂

    • @gardenjoy5223
      @gardenjoy5223 3 месяца назад +4

      They don't even cook themselves, but pay for a cook. This is for the richer communities. Obviously. With an entire building erected for communal benefit, but also communal costs. Perhaps they have someone to do most of the cleaning too?

  • @NancyCronk
    @NancyCronk 2 дня назад

    When my husband and I were first married, we lived in Married Student Housing at U-M. All of our friends were also married grad students, and most of us had our first babies when we lived there. We had frequent potlucks and our kids played together in the courtyard. It was the most wonderful time, and I have missed that community living for the last 40 years. We were poor as dirt as students, but because we shared so much with our friends, we felt like we had everything we needed. This arrangement reminds me of those wonderful days.

  • @kaylat63
    @kaylat63 5 дней назад +108

    The worst part is the people working hardest are getting the least remuneration for their efforts and then shamed in the media for not taking more hours, more work despite the poverty wages. 40% of people in work need state support. That’s a reflection of greed not poor work ethics by working people. This is being done by design, by greed.

    • @rougeur
      @rougeur 5 дней назад

      I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate and stocks.

    • @Aimee966
      @Aimee966 5 дней назад

      I’ve been diligently working, saving and contributing towards early retirement and financial freedom, but since covid outbreak, the economy so far has caused my portfolio to underperform, do I keep contributing to my 401k or look at alternative sectors to meet my goals?

    • @kaylat63
      @kaylat63 5 дней назад

      I've always delegated my investment decisions to an advisor, since suffering major portfolio loss early 2020, amid covid outbreak. I'm now semi-retired and only work 7.5 hours a week, with barely 25% short of my $1m retirement goal after subsequent investments to date.

    • @Aimee966
      @Aimee966 5 дней назад

      I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.

    • @kaylat63
      @kaylat63 5 дней назад

      *Mr Gary Mason Brooks* a highly respected figure in his field. I suggest delving deeper into his credentials, as he possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.

  • @Lady_Lefty
    @Lady_Lefty 3 месяца назад +2

    This is how people used to live.. it’s a small village, with everyone living together and being a community… introverts are actually gaining huge benefits from communal living, for someone like me, I’m not either all the time, sometimes I’m extra social, other times I don’t even wanna talk. So this would afford me the ability to socialize even when I struggle to, but need company. Not having to leave my home would be amazing… also the safety and support is astounding. I will say that it would be hard to make sure you end up with the right people, all with similar values and living styles. .

  • @kjw79
    @kjw79 3 месяца назад +7

    I think it’s easier to live together with more introverts than extroverts honestly 👍

  • @firesign4297
    @firesign4297 3 месяца назад +1

    🤗🤗🤗 PRICELESS!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤗🤗🤗....
    Reminds me of my family Downsouth all they bought was land land land and family houses Everywhere to this day🤗
    So it's always easy to go....HOME☺️🙏🏿☺️
    Again.... PRICELESS!!!...Idea🤗👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤗

  • @aysen8366
    @aysen8366 4 месяца назад +3

    Love it. One of your best videos. Thank you very much for sharing :)

  • @RextheRebel
    @RextheRebel Месяц назад

    Its beautiful to hear that seeing others close to you raise kids makes others want to raise kids. And it is rather easy to do so when you have a village to help you raise them.

  • @stevemiller7949
    @stevemiller7949 4 месяца назад +3

    This is a huge inspiration. People are hungry for this option. Please do a segment on the guy who is a partner on Cul de Sac, who is working to expand co living in America.

  • @andrewsimckes5748
    @andrewsimckes5748 13 дней назад +1

    You are really a great cinematographer you made Oakland look nice and safe

  • @akowboyshippielife7405
    @akowboyshippielife7405 4 месяца назад +24

    Our strength is in our UNITY family 👍💪🏻🤠

  • @juangonzalez837
    @juangonzalez837 18 дней назад

    Wow! Nice location with nice friends who have common ideas on how to live together. I am very familiar with Oakland as I grew up near by. Don’t live in Cali anymore but this would be something g I would have been interested in. Great job!

  • @void________
    @void________ Месяц назад +5

    This had to cost millions.

  • @wishihadanickel
    @wishihadanickel 4 месяца назад +1

    I love this way of living as well -- we need more of this -- please seek out more of these communities to share with us and thank you!!