Today as of February 7, 2023 Nintendo has sold over 120 million units of the Switch. The Wii U was a commercial failure, but it paved the way for the Switch by trying something different than its competitors. Sometimes a flop will put you on top.
Wii U was a fighter, for sure. The fact that so much of its library was put on the Switch speaks to just how many good games were on it. And it's the best way to play Wii games.
Adam I was bothered by this thought I had. What if Nintendo released the wii u thinking the seventh generation was going to last longer. What if Nintendo originally thought of the wii u as a wii pro or not a full on successor.
Playing on the gamepad without the TV isn't just for kids.... rather it's for families... I love playing Nintendo while others watch TV :) The Wii U is nearly perfect for our house, and with a couple other games it would be as close to perfect as possible. These games would include a couple shooter games, more sports titles, and a good racing simulator like Gran Turismo..... If Nintendo makes another generation of consoles and others don't, then I think they'll get more 3rd party games.... I've purchased 2 Wii U consoles, one for the neighbors. If they make a bundle with the new Zelda next year, and drop the price even a little, I'll buy 2 more....
I sold my wii and bought the wiiU, used; 6 months after it launched. I loved it, however I also had to agree with what other gamers were saying about it's faults which are the game pad, low storage capacity, terrible marketing on Nintendo's part and so on. That being said, the games were really fun and I did use the gamepad to control my TV and I used the screen switch feature on it so my GF, who is now my wife could watch TV. That 1 feature was a lifesaver!
I think the Wii u is a bastion to the classic console, overshadowed by the juggernaut which is the PS4 I feel like 10 years from now it will be regarded as a cult classic similar to the GameCube and Dreamcast which were overlooked thanks to then juggernaut PS2. I've got a Wii U and I love it to bits it's got that classic console vibe. Its that's saying you never appreciate something till it's gone.
I love/loved my Wii. I never bought this (the only Nintendo I didn't), I didn't know it was a separate thing, plus I wasn't really playing attention to games at the time. I wish I had have purchased it. If only for completion purposes.
I have the pro controller and the gamepad. its great to have two different options and ways of gaming instead of one. At least I give Nintendo credit for trying something new. Plus I like the fact I can use Wii Motes and play my library of Wii games as well as Virtual consoles if I do so want to. All in all Wii-U is a really good console and I have no problem with it. Plus my other gaming methods are PC as PS4. good vid Adam Koralik
You always talk a lot of sense mate and I love my wii u and can not argue against anything you said ! I was also someone that could not get into the wii mote and very sad about that as I missed out on some gems ! That said I have since bought some lightgun games and turns out that its awesome for that genre ! I do use the tablet but I am married with a 5 year old so we can mix the tv with gaming and keep everyone happy :-)
MY GOD! A 3DS add on would make it an instant purchase for me. Imagine playing SMT games on the Wii U!!! SMT IV ON THE Wii U? FUCK YES! Besides its possible that Nintendo might make this, if the Vita TV ends up being a success for Sony, which i plan to buy once it officially comes to the US. Good video Adam!
Harry Sibia Completely different. Virtual Console means buying a fully digital version of the games and playing it on a sort-of-emulator thing on the system. It certainly won't be anywhere near as good as actually inserting your pre-existing GBA cartridge into a GameCube. Virtual Console is unlikely to ever be a driving force behind Wii U. Hardly anyone used it on the original Wii (again due to the casual audience who couldn't be bothered learning about it)
Wow i love this video you are like the only person who doesnt just recommend nintendo go 3rd party or develop for mobile platforms. This advice is helpful and you are actually educated when you talk. you sir have earned a subscriber.
I agree I would also like to see 3DS and even 3D Wii U games have the option of being in 3D as I love the 3D enabled games on my Xbox 350 and my PS3. :) But yeah the 3DS add on would rock and I would use it since I just got the 3D XL not to long ago. ;)
Huge Nintendo fan, got wii u day one and have for all of my time having it loved it, and have had no trouble finding games for it. That being said, I agree with some, the gamepad is necessary for the console, like wiimote for wii or touch screen for DS. I also have always wanted a DSplayer for it, and I'm glad you know that ninty will always make consoles as long as there is a ninty.
The off tv play is not just for kids...it is very useful for most gamers (most gamers have partners). When my boyfriend wants to watch Madmen or Adventure time I can continue playing WindWaker HD on the tablet :)
They're not going to jump ship on the gamepad. The gamepad is that one feature that I think the entire console was built around, and it's the one thing (besides exclusive games) that make the Wii U stand out from its competition, giving it a "reason" for people to buy it. They're pretty much married to the features it provides now, and ditching it would take away the console's uniqueness. Also, it's still a $100 "boat" that a few million consumers bought, using your "don't jump the boat" logic. And as a gamer, I can recall countless incidents where the off-screen feature came in handy (me being part of a family of four).
Making a separate Wii U version without the gamepad and just with the pro controller would still be a very smart thing to do, a step in the right direction, so to say. Keep in mind that is not "jumping ship".
Then is Nentendo going to keep making games that require the gamepad? If they do, customers without a gamepad won't be able to play them, and there are already plenty of games like that, like Zombie U and Nintendo Land. Those games are practically unplayable without the gamepad, and some of the systems non-gaming features require it, like the web browser. And if they stop making games that require it, a lot of people would feel let down, like they wasted money on something they need to play just a few games (I know I would).
sonicdoesfrontflips Yes. Are you somewhat afraid to acknowledge that it's possible to make a game that supports both the touch gamepad and a normal controller? Is that such an impossible concept to you?
Most games that come out on wii u these days support both controllers, so that's a blatantly obvious possibility. But there are still games that require the gamepad. I doubt the developers would go back to rework and patch games to support other controllers, because in Nintendo Land's case at least, it would make a totally different game, and what would it cost them to do this? Would the revenue really make these costs worth it? I don't think so. And why would Nintendo sell a console that can't play some of the games that have been designed for it? That would be stupid. It would shave off an extra $100 or so from the price, but it would also deprive it from one of its most unique selling points. And the resources they spend designing this new model, marketing it and finding ways to be sure no consumers or developers get screwed over would be better spent just designing more games, IMO. That's what they're best at, after all. And make sure you know what Miyamoto's been up to before you tell me they're no longer designing more games specifically for the gamepad.
sonicdoesfrontflips Seriously, what's wrong with your perception of context? "And make sure you know what Miyamoto's been up to before you tell me they're no longer designing more games specifically for the gamepad." *I never even fucking implied that.*
You made some great points, although I do have to say, the PS4 and PS Vita, aren't at all like the Wii U, the concept is similar, but the execution is widely different, Nintendo achieves the Wii U gamepad's 60FPS and minimal lag by building a wireless chip-set designed for it, the PS4 and Vita on the other hand, just use regular wireless connections, both systems connect to each-other through a router, which on the face of things doesn't seem like a bad idea, until you actually try it. The huge problem, is the delay, it's enormous, to the extent where there is noticeable input lag on the Vita, but that isn't the only issue, the Vita also limits ALL games to 30FPS due to the heavy data streams, which causes MORE input lag, for most games, input lag doesn't matter, but for 60FPS twitch shooters, it's unbearable, not to mention 30FPS bothers a lot of people. There is one last thing, the Vita isn't bundled with every PS4 and is an entire system by itself, which gives developers no reason to spend extra time supporting it when developing PS4 games, whereas with the Wii U, it's a part of the console and every single Wii U owner has it, meaning supporting the gamepad is a more worthwhile investment for developers as compared to developing for an accessory only some have and very few will use. It's the same thing with Xbox Smartglass, they tried to add the ability to use tablets as live companions, but it didn't work out because no developers wanted to spend time on it and it eventually fell into obscurity. I believe if Nintendo didn't bundle the gamepad with the system that they would have run intro the same issues as Microsoft and Sony, which in turn, would have just made the Wii U an under-powered next gen system with no real benefits over the other systems. Sorry for the essay, just wanted to share my thoughts.
Thanks. 1: I don't own a Vita, I'm basing my claims on what Sony said they intend for it. 2: Obviously I'm aware that the Vita is a separate handheld console and isn't bundled with the console. 3: Obviously I understand the logic that if developers know people have it, then they'll take the time to use it. But that doesn't mean anything when they can't sell the console in the first place. 4: Express your thoughts all you like sir.
AdamKoralik Oh I know, I'm just explaining why Sony's intentions are flawed, I don't doubt that you didn't already know that and I'm aware you aren't a handheld fan, I just felt like explaining in depth why Sony are doing it wrong and that if they intend on copying the Wii U outright, they need to put some more effort in developing the tech and put more effort into pushing the Vita as an accessory as-well as it's own handheld, I wanted the Vita to be like the Wii U, but after using it, it really did show how much effort Nintendo put into developing the Gamepad.
A friend of mine has been staying over here for a few days and he brought his Wii U. In just a few days, I've been having more fun with my Wii U than with my Xbox One. This doesn't mean I don't like my Xbox One, just that I really REALLY want a Wii U now.
I always saw it as Sony/Microsoft being the same, with Nintendo doing their own thing. Of you one a Sony/Microsoft, you don't need the other one. I got a Xbox360 and a Wii. Just bought a Switch and I'll be looking to see if the new xbx is worth it.
I will agree that the Wii Remote is not a very comfortable controller, and the Wii U's controllers are a refreshing change (I've been using the Pro Controller a lot with NewSMB U and Donkey Kong, and it's awesome. I haven't had to recharge it yet, and I've owned it for two months). I wholly agree with you on this though. You make some excellent points. I do like this console, and I think your take on what they should do (get third party, mature exclusives, bring out their own franchises, etc.) is really right on the money. They've got Sega with Sonic: Lost World, and the just-announced Sonic Boom as well. Not to mention, they've secured Bayonetta 2 as a Wii U exclusive, so that's also a start, and it's coming this year. They've now got Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 8 is coming later, Smash Bros., Bayonetta 2, X, and Sonic Boom. I don't hate the Wii like you do, but I do find myself liking the Wii U more. I tend to actually turn it on more than I do my original Wii, the controller is far better, and while the graphics are underpowered on paper, visually they don't really look THAT much "worse" than the other two platforms because of the law of diminishing returns. Mario Kart 8 is stylized really nicely, so I do like the visuals I'm seeing. They don't look like absolute shit on my HDTV. I imagine this will be like another GameCube in terms of sales, and in terms of the fact that I'll end up liking it more than the Wii.
ZombiU was compatible with the Pro Controller. Don't know whether it came out at launch in the U.S. but here in Germany there was even a ZombiU-bundle.
Oh great miyamoto, may the community great you well, may Nintendo live to see the beginning and end of gaming and may you save the game industry yet again when Xbox and PlayStation fall.
Some responses to what you said as a Wii U owner. The Gamepad has to be bundled to set it as a standard for developers. Though not all of them take advantage of it it would be far worse had it been optional. Removing it also takes away the selling point of the Wii U and really drops its value. Without it, the Wii U is just an under-powered console with the only selling point being that it's from Nintendo and will have Nintendo IPs. Selling it alone is also pointless. There's simply no compelling reason to buy this thing as no games take advantage of it well enough. Off-screen play wouldn't be worth it either, the gamepad would reasonably cost say $80 but for a bit more you could buy a 1080P 21 inch monitor. Even if it were for sale right now and someone got another gamepad they'd find it becomes functionally useless when they have two on. 60 FPS drops to 30 FPS when the Wii U has to render for two gamepads. Maybe a slow party game can use it but otherwise it's not going to work. As for the DS add on idea, Nintendo can't reasonably do it well. Aside from it going way off from their philosophy about mobile gaming, the stretch on a 3DS game would make it look terrible. What they could do and have, is announce they would be looking to put DS games onto the gamepad. For the price the Wii U is cheap enough. The white was for sale for $150 in August from Target. How amazing is that for a current gen console? Even compared to last gen consoles that's an amazing price. Big retailers like Walmart had the white version selling at $200. Now in 2014 price points are even lower. A deluxe Wind Waker bundle at Chapters for $210 and even Nintendo is selling refurbished Black versions of the console at $220. Onto the games the Wii U really shines as a budget console. Outside of first party games which are usually $50, most other games can be had at $20 and lower. Again Walmart sold Nintendo Land, Black Ops II, Assassin's Creed III, etc for $10. Recently I bought Zombie U and AC3 from Bestbuy for $10 each. I own most of the big third party games on the Wii U and the most expensive one was Mass Effect 3 that costed about $23. From my viewpoint Nintendo has the Wii U as the budget console of this generation. There's so much value to be had with it. All they have to do now is convey that message.
Some responses to your responses: 1: Thank you for watching. 2: I know the logic of keeping it there for developers, the problem is this model requires that the console be successful, it is not. At this point it's a game of cutting their losses. Like the PS3 was to Sony. 3: Exactly, no games take advantage of it properly, yet it's their adding expense on to the console. 4: I don't pretend to know the technical ins and outs of achieving this, but it worked for the Game Boy. 5: Target's sale was to close inventory at a great personal loss to them. Nintendo can't make a profit on moves like that. 6: This I agree with. 7: I want you to understand I LIKE the Wii U. I really do. But one must acknowledge the flaws in order to make things better for the company who made it.
AdamKoralik Thanks for the response. 4. It worked for the gameboy because the stretch on the SD TVs wouldn't be as extreme as it is on today's FHD TVs. Nintendo could do it but it just wouldn't look good. 5. Target's sale aside other retailers had comparable sales as I mentioned. Even if Target were actually clearing out Wii U's it doesn't make sense for them to do more drastic sales at later dates which they have. If anyone actually wanted a Wii U they could easily get it for under $250. 7. I like the Wii U as well but as any owner with any kind of tech savvy one could see how lacking the Wii U is after a short amount of time. What you said does make sense. If Nintendo wanted to salvage the system they could very well appeal to nostalgia of many other console owners and sell them on a low costing Wii U at somewhere around $150 or even lower. As a budget system or second system the Wii U could survive and be profitable but that would only rub early adopters the wrong way. I feel a bit annoyed at the deals that are available now and that's with buying a Wii U at under $200; I can only imagine how launch day Wii U owners feel. That's the audience that matters the most too because without them what kind of fanbase does Nintendo actually have? As for 2016 it'll be an announcement for a new handheld by Nintendo that would likely be able to connect to the TV to tie both types of console gaming together. Nintendo has hinted about this after mentioning the 3DS is at an end hardware wise.
i have been thinking about buying a wii u for a while, the problem is that i dont got enough money. and im thinking between a gaming pc and a wii u.. what should i buy?
I think a 3DS addon for the WiiU would do ridiculously well, especially since RUclipsrs and Twitcher players are spending up to $300 for a 3DS capture card, a 3DS addon might be a cheaper more viable option for people if they already own a WiiU. It might also interest people who don't own a WiiU or 3DS, it might be an incentive to get a WiiU. So now people can either buy a 3DS and enjoy those games, or buy a WiiU with the 3DS player and enjoy the best of both worlds.
You lost me at "problems come from the Wii". The Wii U's problems come from itself, not the original Wii. The Wii U targets a completely different audience, and a casual audience isn't going to like a console designed for non-casual gamers.
I explained in great detail what that means in my Wii recap video, you're free to watch that if you like. But I stand by what I said, the Wii U's problems come from the Wii.
I hope Nintendo can at least tackle every big franchise they have to offer for the Wii U , because I agree with you fully about the lifespan of this thing Adam. Does Nintendo think we won't buy a Metroid/Star Fox/F-Zero/ for the Wii U? I fucking hope not , because those can be really awesome.
I am actually doing a small write up for a video on what Nintendo can do to save the Wii U, One of the things is dropping the Gamepad as a requirement and packing the system with a Pro Controller, this allowing the system to receive a massive price cut to severely undercut the PS4 and Xbone.
I also do a point for a more mature IP by Nintendo or a 2nd party developer...and hint that Nintendo should buy Capcom. Doing more of a media center thing by updating the system to play BDs and DVDs (The drive in the Wii U is a BD drive...it just cant play BDs) and incorporating Plex.
I think this Wii U game pad could really revolutionize console game play. Like, if bioshock was on Wii U, the machine hacking system could really use the game pad in a cool way. Or if there is a bomb defusing mission on a certain game, the game pad could be used for that. These are very simple ideas, but imagine what else it could be used for other than maps or a health/magic bar. ..
I bought a Wii U because I'm a huge Legend of Zelda fan, so naturally I had to get the collector's edition. I bought a PS4 last spring and then sold it back last fall. Why? Because I kept looking for a game to play on it and kept looking at the upcoming games list and couldn't find a reason to keep it. There was one game I liked on the system - Raymond Legends. Meanwhile, I have 3 games for my Wii U, all of which I love (also exclusives). There are more games I'd like to get for my Wii U (all exclusives), but they still cost full price. Pre-owned isn't that much cheaper either. Although, the system I play most these days is my PC.
Hey Adam liked your videos! In my opinion, the games that benefits the most from the gamepad is Monster Hunter U and batman Arkham city! Especially batman, the game totally feels much more awesome with the gamepad.
I own a wii u and I'm actually quite happy with it. I got it at launch and it's been slow going, but the library has gotten better to the point where there's more good games that I want than I have money to get them with or time to play. That's all I can really ask for out of the library. (And homebrewed so I can play a whole lot more from other systems) I don't want to shell out for a ps4 or Xbox one at least for a while, too expensive and not enough titles I'd like yet. But if I had one of the others the wii u would be a pretty hard sell. And you pretty much need an external hard drive (unless you're Adam) if you want to download games. Which adds more to the cost. Idk who's gonna be buying this thing except kids, but I can say I have a lot of fun with it.
I think of the Wii U as a neat little experiment. What we know is that Nintendo know their mistakes so their next console SHOULD be pretty damn awesome.
I don't think they should drop the GamePad. Developers should be encourage it to use in interesting ways. But I do think they should have the Pro Controller included with every system. Nintendo does local multiplayer the best (I think) and will push the social aspect more. Also more games like Monster Hunter and the upcoming SSB that have versions for the WiiU and the 3DS (3DS add-on not needed) because chances are that most people that bought a WiiU already have a 3DS. That could either be used for local multiplayer or a seamless transition between mobile and at home gaming.
nintendo NX being talked about for reveal in 2016, an watching these with retrospect you've been pretty spot on with your predictions, called it on the 1 terrabyte XBO an Ps4 too
i really doubt nintendo is going to drop the game pad if anything they make it a bit cheaper by taking features out. i completely agree with your idea for a 3ds add on. i think the wii u is a warm up to a potential console/handheld machine maybe something a la vita tv, something you can plug to your tv and bring with you too.
Well done video. Though I love the gamepad, it's definitely a smart move to make it optional. When I picked up the new DKC game the other day, it became clear Nintendo is planning on doing this. There was no gamepad functionality in that game; I think a clear sign that your prediction may be fruitful. An expanded audience would be great.
I love Nintendo too and grew up with them, in fact if I didn't get a super Nintendo when I did I don't think I'd be into gaming as much as I am now. I stuck with Nintendo up to the Gamecube, I had a Wii but rarely used it because I couldn't stand the motion controls. I do hope nintendo get some sense and start releasing games like Starfox, Fzero, Metroid etc. I do hope they remove the touch pad amd drop the price because if you ask me at its current price point its not worth it.
More Eternal Darkness: very yes. I can see how it's hard to recommend the Wii U. I bought it last year and felt like a chump shortly after. Nowadays, I'm comfortable recommending it because of SM 3D World, since it's a fantastic game and there are a few more really good ones in the pipeline. It really is a bummer that you can't get past the controller issues on the Wii. I agree that that situation was bad. But some very, very good games are Wii exclusives. I was able to get used to the Wii's remote + nunchuck thing by thinking of it as a split Xbox 360 or PS3 controller. With substantially less buttons.
Nintendo needs to hire you on the help save them business wise! I like you am a big Sega Dreamcast fan but like most retro systems. my step son and I have not upgraded from my 360 and his PS3 other then we did put our wii into retirement and got the WiiU and I'd say its my favorite but that's just due to my luv for the 2D style Mario games! keep up the great work and I hope to see new Dreamcast videos soon!!!! ever think of doing a video on getting the dreamcast back online with the new DreamPi setup? I have yet to donit but I'm buying the equipment now and trying to find the DreamPi program/image.
I gotta disagree about the SEGA CD being a mistake. Not only was it a mild financial success, but it made SEGA look like the more cutting-edge hardware company. This also probably helped untold Genesis sales from people having the mindset of upgrading it later with the SEGA CD to kinda trump their friends with SNESs. The 32X's life span was the real slap-in-the-face confidence breaker for them, and the CD gets unfairly lumped with it. I'm not saying that it was a good system, but wasn't a failure. HOWEVER, if you really think about it though, the SEGA CD may actually be indirectly responsible the demise of SEGA as a hardware company. After the SEGA CD Nintendo stated trying to develop their own add-on with initial help from SONY, and we all know how that turned out. If the PlayStation was never released then the Saturn would've had a fighting chance in North America, and the Dreamcast would've done just fine. Hindsight's 20/20, but in its time it was a good move.
the funny thing about it is the sega cd is lead to Nintendo hiring Sony to make their version of a cd based attachment. unintentionally, and in a round about way, the Sega cd helped give us the playstation.
Dude, I hope your right. NIntendo is still rich. If they dug deep and pumped out quality 1st and 2nd party titles and have an extremely affordable console...that could work.
Got my Wii U yesterday, sold my old phone for a £105 Amazon voucher so I got a Wii U with "Lego City Undercover" & I only paid £102 out of my own money. I also own a PS4.
To bad the wii u wasnt successfully. I love it and hate the wii. You are so right. Like the wii u more then the switch. Great video and could watch your old videos over and over again but love the new ones as well.
OK, I'll agree with you on the Original Wii controller. Some Spiderman games came on there and..... DAMN..!! I wished I could of used the classic controller on those, but no. You had to use the Wii controller with a nunchuck for it to work. Not cool. Other than that, It's alright.
I like your thinking, Adam. Personally, I think as well this thing is only worth it for exclusive games cuz' anything else would be a waste of money, for both the players and developers. Of course there are indie titles but that's another story. So far, the WiiU is to me alot like the Saturn starting with its promotion... except alot worse when it comes to support. Nintendo probably won't leave the 1st party field due "some" money loss but they'll have to figure out something that is neither another console for everyone or a power beast, especially since everything after the N64 used to be anything but the spotlight for devs. Maybe they should do it like SEGA with the DC back then and push stuff like hell.
Even though this is an old comment, I thought I may as well say what I think. So the Dreamcast (at least in North America) was discontinued a year and a half after it's release, and what you said is true. They pushed out a lot of awesome games in such a short time. But, it's competition, the Playstation 2, Gamecube and Xbox, were all on par with the Dreamcast in terms of power. I think 3rd party developers knew what they would be getting into with Nintendo's hardware, with it being much like the Xbox 360's. But they also knew that Sony and Microsoft would push there consoles farther cause they knew what to do after learning with there consoles. The Dreamcast on the other hand, was much more powerful then the PS1 and N64, because they had a console before it that stood up to the N64 and PS1. With the Wii and Wii U, not so much, because Nintendo was behind a generation since the Wii, with it being pretty much a Gamecube with full sized DVD's. Sorry for the long post.
Some interesting points Adam, some which you are on the money such as the Wiimote. As a regular game controller it's bad, but used as a hand remote it's great, hence the old Classic Controller. As for the Gamepad, I very much doubt Nintendo will sell the console without it because it is an integral part of the system set up, it's far more than just a controller. I would guess a fairly extensive firmware update would be required for the console to work alone. I have all the controllers, and all are fine for each game. In fact, using the Gamepad I find easier on racers for example, and it's excellently innovative for games like Windwaker. Nintendo have only ever dumped one console, the Virtuaboy, and only because it was not only under developed, it was a health hazard. So I agree, dumping the WiiU is not an option as it will be shitting on their fanbase. However, some sort of sync with the 3DS would be beneficial. Nintendo still stand for what Famicom means, Family computer and maybe in this day and age that model is outdated, but I guess future first party games will be top notch. Having used the Vita/ps4 features working together, I was not massively impressed. The lag is awful, some games are not compatible and the set up is riddled with bugs. The PS4 itself looks like it will be in eventual king of the 8th gen. Nintendo's problem is not the hardware of the WiiU, it was the marketing, or lack of it, and over reliance of people buying it off the strength of their brand. As a system it's excellent and different from the other two, and it far more for 'the family' whilst tapping into the primary market, but not enough to impact Sony or possibly Microsoft.
Thank you for watching, you make some good points. To clarify one thing, I don't WANT them to drop the gamepad, I actually like it. I just think they may do it to salvage the console as much as possible so they can gear up for the next move. Kind of like Sony stripping out all those awesome features in the PS3. No one WANTED them to, but they had to to reduce cost and move units.
Regardless of how the sales numbers turn out, I LOVE the Wii U. It tends to get even more use than the PS4 right now. It has everything I've wanted since I was disappointed by the Wii ; great HD Nintendo games and no forced motion controls! The Wii U is a great console imho.
I don't play portable games unless I can do so on a TV, like with the GB Player for the GC. If Nintendo somehow made DS and 3DS games playable on the U, I think you are right; it will be beneficial for the console. However, I wonder if it is possible, and if Nintendo even recognizes that it would be a good move.
I think the problem with the gamepad is mostly that no one really knows what to do with it. From all the games I own, I think only Pikmin 3 used it properly. It's very appealing for RTS gaming or games that rely heavily on menu screens, like RPGs, but up until now it's a lot of waste potential because for some reason Nintendo insisted on first publishing games that don't really need it like platformers, and now no one really knows why we have this thing in the first place. Which is kind of a waste, really. I think Nintendo is actually trying to get more mature games with Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame, but I think the whole family friendly image is not really attractive to most developpers, and there's not much nintendo can do about it, specially for Western development companies, I think. I mean look at Zombie U, I know it's a launch title, but it gives you the feeling that Ubisoft didn't really feel secure enough about a nintendo console to actually put effort into making an exclusive. At least that's my impression. Correct me if I'm BSing now.
Adam, if the Wii U is packaged without the gamepad, I think it might make the Wii U into a clone of the Wii and just confuse people even more. I think the Big N should focus on making the gamepad a more attractive part of the system with more games to utilize it and maybe improved features for TV connectivity and online browser interface. I like the idea of some sort of crossover between the Wii U and 3DS. I liked the cross platform play for Monster Hunters for both systems. 3rd party developers. For some reason Square Enix comes to mind. They are coming out with Bravely Default for the 3DS and they intend to do a sequel for it. Perhaps a sequel on the Wii U and maybe a couple original IPs as well. And no crappy Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. And I would also like to see the Big N do something original and exciting like make Club Nintendo live up to its true potential. Maybe have something like achiements or trophies for doing things in games, but it counts as coins toward your Club Nintendo account. They can always raise the points needed to redeem for rewards to offset the increased points people will have. And of course, replenish their physical rewards.
To be honest they need to redesign the controller the button layout and analog placement which is above the buttons is no so great. All they need to do is release Wavebird 2.0 great video Adam
I do agree with you on the fact that Nintendo should have offered the gamepad as a separate device instead of bundling it in. It was what put me off from getting a Wii U right out the door. I feared it would suck like the Wii-mote, which was also marketed to do awesome stuff and "change the way we'd play games", which were really just "meh" to horrid in execution (at least for me.). I also didn't want another pointless system taking up room because I hated the control. But after finally caving and getting one last year, I really kind of like it.
Good video Adam. Also good points regarding the Wii U, etc. I'll be honest, I got one just this last week and I actually really like the GamePad as a controller. Yeah it's a touch unwieldy for games like New Super Mario Bros. U, but it's actually not a half bad controller for what you get. The HDMI cable is really high quality as well, and it isn't a generic HDMI cable, which is wonderful. I really hope that there's only maybe a $50 price cut next for the Wii U because the HDMI cable, while it isn't necessarily a major selling point, is actually a nice quality HDMI cable and it completes the theming of the cables. I've even tried games like NES Remix (which is actually quite nice for a digital-only game), and I'm already used to the GamePad for the game experiences we've gotten already. As far as your idea for a '3DS TV' accessory for the Wii U, it's a great idea, but I don't know how 99.9% of those games would upscale to a 1080p TV unless Nintendo did some serious under-the-hood magic. Great idea on paper, not sure Nintendo would nail it in the execution however. But, if it was a $50 accessory for the Wii U that would allow for people to record 3DS games without buying black-market 3DSes that have been modded for video capture? That would be huge. So I'm with you on the idea, I'm just hopeful the execution is on point for that sort of system-saving accessory.
***** that was (unfortunately) exactly the kind of capture card I was talking about as a way NOT to go. A legit way to play 3DS games on a TV would be a killer app for the Wii U
great summary of the Wii U so far. i hope it picks up some speed, cos i do see it as my console of choice for the next gen, but i wont be getting one for a while yet..
Seriously I think that the problems facing the WiiU are part of a larger problem facing Nintendo generally. Specifically Nintendo's games cover too narrow a niche to attract gamers from the other two main consoles (we can argue right now that WiiU has more games, but we all know that in a year or so this won't be the case). Combine that with Nintendo's family friendly image and you have a pretty serious medium term problem Personally I can't think of one current Nintendo IP off the bat that interests me, there were titles in the past, but right now if you reel off IPs like Mario (and associated characters), Zelda and Pimkin it really feels stale to me. For sure the Nintendo loyal fanbase will get excited, but maybe even they are less and less excited about these titles. The key in my opinion is to create some new IPs and a number of independent titles with a variety of genres with the same excellent production / gameplay values seen in Mario titles. Part of the problem is that Nintendo's loyal fanbase are too 'close' to the problem to be able to see the solution. A lot claim loudly that they love their Wii U's and talk about how great the games are, when the fact is by any standard there are not many games on the WiiU and the variety isn't there. Does anybody really believe that the WiiU will have the games library of the Gamecube by the end of its run? Isn't it true that we might even be looking at a games library half that of the gamecube? Finally the image thing is connected to new IPs, the company hasn't recognised just how many 20-35 year old gamers are out there and just how turned off those people are by the kiddy image, which is one that Nintendo has been trying to project themselves, as much as it is one that is pointed to by their detractors. New IPs and a change in direction, whilst maintaining existing quality titles will change that.
I adore my Wii U, but I don't think many people will buy one. I think in 10, 15 years people will wish they had, though, and it will blow up as a very popular retro console. It's the least online console of the current gen as well which will make it the most desirable of this gen in the future.
Well Nintendo are already talking about the next console, currently codenamed NX. Bad idea? Nope. The thing people forget is this, Nintendo, on avg have a 5 year lifespan per console. US of course. Wii U launched in 2012, late 2012 yes, but 2012. This year will make it's third year in what November? What I'm saying is they're right on schedule with what they normally do, i don't think this gen will last as long as last gen, it can't. I could be wrong of course, but I hope Nintendo pulls itself back into competition with Sony and Microsoft.
If they made the GamePad a separate accessory: 1. There'd be basically NO innovation in their games. Which is what Nintendo is all about right now. 2. That'd make people EVEN MORE confused as to whether the GamePad is just a Wii Peripheral or not. And for someone that knows so much about games, I'm surprised that you genuinely think they'd unbundle the only USP of the system. The Wii U's sales are getting much better.
I will point out that before that video, the Wii U started turning profit (in October) and following Smash and Amiibo (admittedly after the video), their profits tripled. Yes overall the year will probably be a loss because of the other 9 months of the year. But it's starting to look up. Besides profit, I think a GamePad-less version of the Wii U could work providing that a GamePad bundled console still exists. HOWEVER, it's a decision that could still just burn fans and put them off buying the next console unless they just drop whatever innovation it brings. Many of my friends who bought an Xbox One early became super pissed off when they dropped the price and removed Kinect. Now Kinect has hardly had any use in games since launch. Yes it helped sales massively, but they've pissed off early adopters, many of whom have traded in for a PS4. Consumer relations are just as important as sales. By the way this is not meant as an attack or anything, I love your videos, I just disagree :)
I understand what you mean about the gamepad! Honestly. But I feel like it's potential is amazing. Nintendo Land is a lackluster single player experience but as a multiplayer game? It's a blaaaaaast. I'd hate for Nintendo to drop the gamepad now, I'd love to see the best they could do with it. The gamepad is no Kinect for sure. As for the Wii U as a game console, I do think it's sorely underrated. I have 9 games for it currently and none to me are a waste of space. While the dwindling amount of multiplats are a problem. Tbh imo I feel it makes the Wii U stand out more actually. To me it's like the Wii U's library is made up of more great games than bad. It's underpowered sure but it's not making the games worse. I'd play SM3L any day over Ryse or Knack lol. But anyway, good vid Adam!
Adam, I liked NintendoLand too; but I wish that it had online multiplayer. It's like Nintendo hates the idea of playing with other people on the internet. I really have to agree with you on the fact that Nintendo is doing it to themselves.
How much better would the Wii u have done if the pro controller came with the console instead of the game pad thing and if none of the games required it? It might've been nintendo's time to shine back in the 8th generation, well maybe, I know the Wii u isn't as powerful as the base ps4 or xbox one but it is quite a bit more powerful than the xbox 360 and ps3 isn't it?
I'd respectfully disagree with the point about Nintendo dropping the Wii U being detrimental to their home console division in the long run, the thing with Sega is that they did it with multiple platforms in the space of 5-6 years, whereas say, Microsoft, did a one-off with it concerning the original Xbox/360 transition and for the most part, got on just fine last gen. Granted, I don't think it's a necessary move, all I'm saying is, it wouldn't be a terrible idea either. Other than that, pretty much agree with the video all round.
New Super Mario Bros. U just shows that all it takes is a firmware update to use the controller. I completely agree that all games should have the same firmware update, and shave off the Gamepad and make it optional.
first thing Nintendo needs to do is advertising; I live in the UK and in the time the wii u has been released I've only seen 1 TV commercial for the wii u while xbox one and ps4 have about 10 commerials a day. if nobody knows it exists nobodies going to buy it that is their main problem,the processing power really doesn't matter especially in the generation with the laws of deministing returns the gap between the wii u and xbox one and ps4 isn't as big of a gap as the gap between wii ,xbox 360 and ps3. Nintendo need to tell people the console exists;people are going to buy something if they don't know it exists in the firstplace. most people I know never even heard of it and those who have think its an add on
I also have two questions. It's been a few years now, and they haven't came out with a new Metroid game yet? Or Megaman? Or The next Spiderman game? What's going on here? Wheres all the games? Their company has always been about the games. Where are they? Oh, and is the WII U backwards compatible?
Doua Yang Spider-Man gets plenty of games. Nintendo not releasing more Metroid, yeah...you'd have to ask them. Capcom not releasing a new Mega Man has been an issue for YEARS. So much that the creator left Capcom to make a spiritual sequel called Mighty Number 9. With the Wii? Yes.
AdamKoralik Do you think Nintendo should re-introduce (kind of) the white Wii U and bundle it with the Pro controller and maybe Mario 3D world and have the price at $300 ish Australian dollars?
i love my wii u and i really like the gamepad, pro controller more. but i do like thought of playing all my wii u games like rayman legends and sonic lost world with the pro controller
I understand that problem you have with people unable to seperate the controller from the console. For me, the ease of use of the controller is one of the largest selling points. When I bring up the PS2, I will gladly give it props and compliments, it has SO MANY GAMES, a built in DVD player, and backwards compatibility with virtually ALL PS1 games! However, the moment I start to say that the PS2 controller, and the entire PlayStation controller style (Save for PS4, I haven't gotten my hands on one of those yet) is not my style, instant Microsoft Fanboy accusation. Just because I like the GC/1stGenXbox/DC controllers over the PS2 does mean that I fault the console for that. I don't like the whole 'use motion controls for Wii' thing, and as time goes on I really don't like the idea that it is in a remote shape. However, there are still quite a few good gems on that console. Fatal Frame 4 (Japanese only), the Resident Evil Darkside/Umbrella Chronicles and upgraded re-releases of REmake and RE4, along with Godzilla Unleashed, and the longer I sit here the more interesting games I can think that it got. - - - - I like your 3DS idea. Alot. There are no hand-held games I care for, but it's a cool idea in concept. - - - - A classic Resident Evil game with the old Item Management system would work decently well with the tablet I think. - - - - Thanks for this 'prediction' thing. It's interesting to see your thoughts and opinions, and I'm a little curious to see how much of this will turn out to be true.
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Love rewatching this series it's a time capsule
Today as of February 7, 2023 Nintendo has sold over 120 million units of the Switch. The Wii U was a commercial failure, but it paved the way for the Switch by trying something different than its competitors. Sometimes a flop will put you on top.
adam is actually very smart business wise, i am surprised he is not a high ranking suit in sony,nintendo.....etc
Embracing The Madness Appreciated.
I agree! I like his very sober views basically on anything related to gaming. If I become one day a successful guy then you are my man Adam.
+Peter Černuška
TurboCMinusMinus he wasn’t predicting anything he was just giving them ideas
Wii U was a fighter, for sure. The fact that so much of its library was put on the Switch speaks to just how many good games were on it. And it's the best way to play Wii games.
Adam I was bothered by this thought I had. What if Nintendo released the wii u thinking the seventh generation was going to last longer. What if Nintendo originally thought of the wii u as a wii pro or not a full on successor.
Playing on the gamepad without the TV isn't just for kids.... rather it's for families... I love playing Nintendo while others watch TV :) The Wii U is nearly perfect for our house, and with a couple other games it would be as close to perfect as possible. These games would include a couple shooter games, more sports titles, and a good racing simulator like Gran Turismo..... If Nintendo makes another generation of consoles and others don't, then I think they'll get more 3rd party games.... I've purchased 2 Wii U consoles, one for the neighbors. If they make a bundle with the new Zelda next year, and drop the price even a little, I'll buy 2 more....
I sold my wii and bought the wiiU, used; 6 months after it launched.
I loved it, however I also had to agree with what other gamers were saying about it's faults which are the game pad, low storage capacity, terrible marketing on Nintendo's part and so on.
That being said, the games were really fun and I did use the gamepad to control my TV and I used the screen switch feature on it so my GF, who is now my wife could watch TV.
That 1 feature was a lifesaver!
I think the Wii u is a bastion to the classic console, overshadowed by the juggernaut which is the PS4 I feel like 10 years from now it will be regarded as a cult classic similar to the GameCube and Dreamcast which were overlooked thanks to then juggernaut PS2. I've got a Wii U and I love it to bits it's got that classic console vibe. Its that's saying you never appreciate something till it's gone.
I'm inclined to agree.
I was making a prediction how we would view the Wii U 10 years from now in retrospect. You clearly don't understand my initial statement.
I love/loved my Wii. I never bought this (the only Nintendo I didn't), I didn't know it was a separate thing, plus I wasn't really playing attention to games at the time. I wish I had have purchased it. If only for completion purposes.
I have the pro controller and the gamepad. its great to have two different options and ways of gaming instead of one. At least I give Nintendo credit for trying something new. Plus I like the fact I can use Wii Motes and play my library of Wii games as well as Virtual consoles if I do so want to.
All in all Wii-U is a really good console and I have no problem with it. Plus my other gaming methods are PC as PS4.
good vid Adam Koralik
Thanks for watching!
8 years latter...
Maybe the Wii U is ok
18 years latter...
WII U IS THE BEST
I really enjoy watching the whole series of videos! learning a great deal, thanks!!
Matt Roe Thanks for watching!
You always talk a lot of sense mate and I love my wii u and can not argue against anything you said ! I was also someone that could not get into the wii mote and very sad about that as I missed out on some gems ! That said I have since bought some lightgun games and turns out that its awesome for that genre ! I do use the tablet but I am married with a 5 year old so we can mix the tv with gaming and keep everyone happy :-)
Thank you sir.
I'm glad you're getting proper use out of the tablet.
MY GOD! A 3DS add on would make it an instant purchase for me. Imagine playing SMT games on the Wii U!!! SMT IV ON THE Wii U? FUCK YES! Besides its possible that Nintendo might make this, if the Vita TV ends up being a success for Sony, which i plan to buy once it officially comes to the US. Good video Adam!
Thank you thank you.
well they are thinking of porting ds games to vc
AdamKoralik Like the game cube add on with gameboy games? if yes a great idea
Harry Sibia well they made a gameboy vc
Harry Sibia
Completely different. Virtual Console means buying a fully digital version of the games and playing it on a sort-of-emulator thing on the system. It certainly won't be anywhere near as good as actually inserting your pre-existing GBA cartridge into a GameCube. Virtual Console is unlikely to ever be a driving force behind Wii U. Hardly anyone used it on the original Wii (again due to the casual audience who couldn't be bothered learning about it)
Wow i love this video you are like the only person who doesnt just recommend nintendo go 3rd party or develop for mobile platforms. This advice is helpful and you are actually educated when you talk. you sir have earned a subscriber.
Thank you sir, I appreciate that.
I agree I would also like to see 3DS and even 3D Wii U games have the option of being in 3D as I love the 3D enabled games on my Xbox 350 and my PS3. :)
But yeah the 3DS add on would rock and I would use it since I just got the 3D XL not to long ago. ;)
I really hope someone at nintendo sees this video. Great video as always Adam!
Thank you sir.
Huge Nintendo fan, got wii u day one and have for all of my time having it loved it, and have had no trouble finding games for it. That being said, I agree with some, the gamepad is necessary for the console, like wiimote for wii or touch screen for DS. I also have always wanted a DSplayer for it, and I'm glad you know that ninty will always make consoles as long as there is a ninty.
I think that ds/3ds add on would be amazing.
Anime101 Not happening at this point unfortunately.
+Michael Salvo Thanks!
I aint going back to a regular controller! I simply refuse to! the gamepad is awesome!
If you already own a gamepad, you wouldn't have to.
Glad nintendo ported some of the games to the switch, saved me buying a Wii U
I am perfectly fine with the Wii U not getting multi-platform games. I play Nintendo consoles for their exclusives.
I love the wii u I still haven't got an xbox one or ps4 been playing zelda and mario a lot and I too enjoy the pro controller over the gamepad
The off tv play is not just for kids...it is very useful for most gamers (most gamers have partners). When my boyfriend wants to watch Madmen or Adventure time I can continue playing WindWaker HD on the tablet :)
I had a similar experience with my wife wanting to watch Greys Anatomy.
DUDE! an addon to play 3ds games on the wii u would be gold! i hope they go with that!
They're not going to jump ship on the gamepad. The gamepad is that one feature that I think the entire console was built around, and it's the one thing (besides exclusive games) that make the Wii U stand out from its competition, giving it a "reason" for people to buy it. They're pretty much married to the features it provides now, and ditching it would take away the console's uniqueness. Also, it's still a $100 "boat" that a few million consumers bought, using your "don't jump the boat" logic.
And as a gamer, I can recall countless incidents where the off-screen feature came in handy (me being part of a family of four).
Making a separate Wii U version without the gamepad and just with the pro controller would still be a very smart thing to do, a step in the right direction, so to say. Keep in mind that is not "jumping ship".
Then is Nentendo going to keep making games that require the gamepad? If they do, customers without a gamepad won't be able to play them, and there are already plenty of games like that, like Zombie U and Nintendo Land. Those games are practically unplayable without the gamepad, and some of the systems non-gaming features require it, like the web browser.
And if they stop making games that require it, a lot of people would feel let down, like they wasted money on something they need to play just a few games (I know I would).
sonicdoesfrontflips Yes. Are you somewhat afraid to acknowledge that it's possible to make a game that supports both the touch gamepad and a normal controller? Is that such an impossible concept to you?
Most games that come out on wii u these days support both controllers, so that's a blatantly obvious possibility. But there are still games that require the gamepad.
I doubt the developers would go back to rework and patch games to support other controllers, because in Nintendo Land's case at least, it would make a totally different game, and what would it cost them to do this? Would the revenue really make these costs worth it? I don't think so.
And why would Nintendo sell a console that can't play some of the games that have been designed for it? That would be stupid. It would shave off an extra $100 or so from the price, but it would also deprive it from one of its most unique selling points. And the resources they spend designing this new model, marketing it and finding ways to be sure no consumers or developers get screwed over would be better spent just designing more games, IMO. That's what they're best at, after all.
And make sure you know what Miyamoto's been up to before you tell me they're no longer designing more games specifically for the gamepad.
sonicdoesfrontflips Seriously, what's wrong with your perception of context?
"And make sure you know what Miyamoto's been up to before you tell me they're no longer designing more games specifically for the gamepad."
*I never even fucking implied that.*
You made some great points, although I do have to say, the PS4 and PS Vita, aren't at all like the Wii U, the concept is similar, but the execution is widely different, Nintendo achieves the Wii U gamepad's 60FPS and minimal lag by building a wireless chip-set designed for it, the PS4 and Vita on the other hand, just use regular wireless connections, both systems connect to each-other through a router, which on the face of things doesn't seem like a bad idea, until you actually try it. The huge problem, is the delay, it's enormous, to the extent where there is noticeable input lag on the Vita, but that isn't the only issue, the Vita also limits ALL games to 30FPS due to the heavy data streams, which causes MORE input lag, for most games, input lag doesn't matter, but for 60FPS twitch shooters, it's unbearable, not to mention 30FPS bothers a lot of people.
There is one last thing, the Vita isn't bundled with every PS4 and is an entire system by itself, which gives developers no reason to spend extra time supporting it when developing PS4 games, whereas with the Wii U, it's a part of the console and every single Wii U owner has it, meaning supporting the gamepad is a more worthwhile investment for developers as compared to developing for an accessory only some have and very few will use. It's the same thing with Xbox Smartglass, they tried to add the ability to use tablets as live companions, but it didn't work out because no developers wanted to spend time on it and it eventually fell into obscurity.
I believe if Nintendo didn't bundle the gamepad with the system that they would have run intro the same issues as Microsoft and Sony, which in turn, would have just made the Wii U an under-powered next gen system with no real benefits over the other systems.
Sorry for the essay, just wanted to share my thoughts.
Thanks.
1: I don't own a Vita, I'm basing my claims on what Sony said they intend for it.
2: Obviously I'm aware that the Vita is a separate handheld console and isn't bundled with the console.
3: Obviously I understand the logic that if developers know people have it, then they'll take the time to use it. But that doesn't mean anything when they can't sell the console in the first place.
4: Express your thoughts all you like sir.
AdamKoralik Oh I know, I'm just explaining why Sony's intentions are flawed, I don't doubt that you didn't already know that and I'm aware you aren't a handheld fan, I just felt like explaining in depth why Sony are doing it wrong and that if they intend on copying the Wii U outright, they need to put some more effort in developing the tech and put more effort into pushing the Vita as an accessory as-well as it's own handheld, I wanted the Vita to be like the Wii U, but after using it, it really did show how much effort Nintendo put into developing the Gamepad.
So close on the date there Adam! You sure do know the industry well.
A friend of mine has been staying over here for a few days and he brought his Wii U. In just a few days, I've been having more fun with my Wii U than with my Xbox One. This doesn't mean I don't like my Xbox One, just that I really REALLY want a Wii U now.
Oh my god, nice shirt Adam! And an interesting (and enjoyable) set of videos of the eighth gen consoles, I might add!
Thank you sir.
I always saw it as Sony/Microsoft being the same, with Nintendo doing their own thing. Of you one a Sony/Microsoft, you don't need the other one. I got a Xbox360 and a Wii. Just bought a Switch and I'll be looking to see if the new xbx is worth it.
I will agree that the Wii Remote is not a very comfortable controller, and the Wii U's controllers are a refreshing change (I've been using the Pro Controller a lot with NewSMB U and Donkey Kong, and it's awesome. I haven't had to recharge it yet, and I've owned it for two months).
I wholly agree with you on this though. You make some excellent points. I do like this console, and I think your take on what they should do (get third party, mature exclusives, bring out their own franchises, etc.) is really right on the money. They've got Sega with Sonic: Lost World, and the just-announced Sonic Boom as well. Not to mention, they've secured Bayonetta 2 as a Wii U exclusive, so that's also a start, and it's coming this year. They've now got Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 8 is coming later, Smash Bros., Bayonetta 2, X, and Sonic Boom.
I don't hate the Wii like you do, but I do find myself liking the Wii U more. I tend to actually turn it on more than I do my original Wii, the controller is far better, and while the graphics are underpowered on paper, visually they don't really look THAT much "worse" than the other two platforms because of the law of diminishing returns. Mario Kart 8 is stylized really nicely, so I do like the visuals I'm seeing. They don't look like absolute shit on my HDTV.
I imagine this will be like another GameCube in terms of sales, and in terms of the fact that I'll end up liking it more than the Wii.
ZombiU was compatible with the Pro Controller. Don't know whether it came out at launch in the U.S. but here in Germany there was even a ZombiU-bundle.
Wii u stopping in 2016 was right on the money haha
Oh great miyamoto, may the community great you well, may Nintendo live to see the beginning and end of gaming and may you save the game industry yet again when Xbox and PlayStation fall.
Your sarcasm at some points is outstanding.
I have a masters degree in sarcasm.
Some responses to what you said as a Wii U owner.
The Gamepad has to be bundled to set it as a standard for developers. Though not all of them take advantage of it it would be far worse had it been optional. Removing it also takes away the selling point of the Wii U and really drops its value. Without it, the Wii U is just an under-powered console with the only selling point being that it's from Nintendo and will have Nintendo IPs.
Selling it alone is also pointless. There's simply no compelling reason to buy this thing as no games take advantage of it well enough. Off-screen play wouldn't be worth it either, the gamepad would reasonably cost say $80 but for a bit more you could buy a 1080P 21 inch monitor. Even if it were for sale right now and someone got another gamepad they'd find it becomes functionally useless when they have two on. 60 FPS drops to 30 FPS when the Wii U has to render for two gamepads. Maybe a slow party game can use it but otherwise it's not going to work.
As for the DS add on idea, Nintendo can't reasonably do it well. Aside from it going way off from their philosophy about mobile gaming, the stretch on a 3DS game would make it look terrible. What they could do and have, is announce they would be looking to put DS games onto the gamepad.
For the price the Wii U is cheap enough. The white was for sale for $150 in August from Target. How amazing is that for a current gen console? Even compared to last gen consoles that's an amazing price. Big retailers like Walmart had the white version selling at $200. Now in 2014 price points are even lower. A deluxe Wind Waker bundle at Chapters for $210 and even Nintendo is selling refurbished Black versions of the console at $220.
Onto the games the Wii U really shines as a budget console. Outside of first party games which are usually $50, most other games can be had at $20 and lower. Again Walmart sold Nintendo Land, Black Ops II, Assassin's Creed III, etc for $10. Recently I bought Zombie U and AC3 from Bestbuy for $10 each. I own most of the big third party games on the Wii U and the most expensive one was Mass Effect 3 that costed about $23.
From my viewpoint Nintendo has the Wii U as the budget console of this generation. There's so much value to be had with it. All they have to do now is convey that message.
Some responses to your responses:
1: Thank you for watching.
2: I know the logic of keeping it there for developers, the problem is this model requires that the console be successful, it is not. At this point it's a game of cutting their losses. Like the PS3 was to Sony.
3: Exactly, no games take advantage of it properly, yet it's their adding expense on to the console.
4: I don't pretend to know the technical ins and outs of achieving this, but it worked for the Game Boy.
5: Target's sale was to close inventory at a great personal loss to them. Nintendo can't make a profit on moves like that.
6: This I agree with.
7: I want you to understand I LIKE the Wii U. I really do. But one must acknowledge the flaws in order to make things better for the company who made it.
AdamKoralik
Thanks for the response.
4. It worked for the gameboy because the stretch on the SD TVs wouldn't be as extreme as it is on today's FHD TVs. Nintendo could do it but it just wouldn't look good.
5. Target's sale aside other retailers had comparable sales as I mentioned. Even if Target were actually clearing out Wii U's it doesn't make sense for them to do more drastic sales at later dates which they have. If anyone actually wanted a Wii U they could easily get it for under $250.
7. I like the Wii U as well but as any owner with any kind of tech savvy one could see how lacking the Wii U is after a short amount of time.
What you said does make sense. If Nintendo wanted to salvage the system they could very well appeal to nostalgia of many other console owners and sell them on a low costing Wii U at somewhere around $150 or even lower. As a budget system or second system the Wii U could survive and be profitable but that would only rub early adopters the wrong way. I feel a bit annoyed at the deals that are available now and that's with buying a Wii U at under $200; I can only imagine how launch day Wii U owners feel. That's the audience that matters the most too because without them what kind of fanbase does Nintendo actually have?
As for 2016 it'll be an announcement for a new handheld by Nintendo that would likely be able to connect to the TV to tie both types of console gaming together. Nintendo has hinted about this after mentioning the 3DS is at an end hardware wise.
You know watching this video convinced me to buy a wii u.
I'm glad you liked it.
i have been thinking about buying a wii u for a while, the problem is that i dont got enough money. and im thinking between a gaming pc and a wii u.. what should i buy?
I think a 3DS addon for the WiiU would do ridiculously well, especially since RUclipsrs and Twitcher players are spending up to $300 for a 3DS capture card, a 3DS addon might be a cheaper more viable option for people if they already own a WiiU. It might also interest people who don't own a WiiU or 3DS, it might be an incentive to get a WiiU. So now people can either buy a 3DS and enjoy those games, or buy a WiiU with the 3DS player and enjoy the best of both worlds.
You lost me at "problems come from the Wii". The Wii U's problems come from itself, not the original Wii. The Wii U targets a completely different audience, and a casual audience isn't going to like a console designed for non-casual gamers.
I explained in great detail what that means in my Wii recap video, you're free to watch that if you like.
But I stand by what I said, the Wii U's problems come from the Wii.
I hope Nintendo can at least tackle every big franchise they have to offer for the Wii U , because I agree with you fully about the lifespan of this thing Adam.
Does Nintendo think we won't buy a Metroid/Star Fox/F-Zero/ for the Wii U?
I fucking hope not , because those can be really awesome.
I am actually doing a small write up for a video on what Nintendo can do to save the Wii U, One of the things is dropping the Gamepad as a requirement and packing the system with a Pro Controller, this allowing the system to receive a massive price cut to severely undercut the PS4 and Xbone.
Yep, I agree. I mentioned that in the video actually.
I also do a point for a more mature IP by Nintendo or a 2nd party developer...and hint that Nintendo should buy Capcom. Doing more of a media center thing by updating the system to play BDs and DVDs (The drive in the Wii U is a BD drive...it just cant play BDs) and incorporating Plex.
Then after that, get Microsoft to drop Kinect out of the Xbox 720. Why do these companies insist on bundling gimmicks?
***** My guess is they wouldn't want to pay for the licensing of Blu-Ray movies.
well they licensed the tech, just not the encryption stuff and codecs, like they did with DVDs with the Gamecube and Wii.
I think this Wii U game pad could really revolutionize console game play. Like, if bioshock was on Wii U, the machine hacking system could really use the game pad in a cool way. Or if there is a bomb defusing mission on a certain game, the game pad could be used for that. These are very simple ideas, but imagine what else it could be used for other than maps or a health/magic bar. ..
I agree, but for the most part it's not used properly.
I bought a Wii U because I'm a huge Legend of Zelda fan, so naturally I had to get the collector's edition. I bought a PS4 last spring and then sold it back last fall. Why? Because I kept looking for a game to play on it and kept looking at the upcoming games list and couldn't find a reason to keep it. There was one game I liked on the system - Raymond Legends. Meanwhile, I have 3 games for my Wii U, all of which I love (also exclusives). There are more games I'd like to get for my Wii U (all exclusives), but they still cost full price. Pre-owned isn't that much cheaper either. Although, the system I play most these days is my PC.
Hey Adam liked your videos! In my opinion, the games that benefits the most from the gamepad is Monster Hunter U and batman Arkham city! Especially batman, the game totally feels much more awesome with the gamepad.
Thank you for watching.
I own a wii u and I'm actually quite happy with it. I got it at launch and it's been slow going, but the library has gotten better to the point where there's more good games that I want than I have money to get them with or time to play. That's all I can really ask for out of the library. (And homebrewed so I can play a whole lot more from other systems) I don't want to shell out for a ps4 or Xbox one at least for a while, too expensive and not enough titles I'd like yet. But if I had one of the others the wii u would be a pretty hard sell. And you pretty much need an external hard drive (unless you're Adam) if you want to download games. Which adds more to the cost. Idk who's gonna be buying this thing except kids, but I can say I have a lot of fun with it.
Now Nintendo has DS games on the virtual console so it turns out they liked your idea lol
I think of the Wii U as a neat little experiment. What we know is that Nintendo know their mistakes so their next console SHOULD be pretty damn awesome.
I don't think they should drop the GamePad. Developers should be encourage it to use in interesting ways. But I do think they should have the Pro Controller included with every system. Nintendo does local multiplayer the best (I think) and will push the social aspect more. Also more games like Monster Hunter and the upcoming SSB that have versions for the WiiU and the 3DS (3DS add-on not needed) because chances are that most people that bought a WiiU already have a 3DS. That could either be used for local multiplayer or a seamless transition between mobile and at home gaming.
nintendo NX being talked about for reveal in 2016, an watching these with retrospect you've been pretty spot on with your predictions, called it on the 1 terrabyte XBO an Ps4 too
Thoms Yang Thanks.
I agree, a 3ds + wii u functionality would be great if they brought back. As did the wii did with ds and gamecube with gameboy.
13:00 im guessing that nintendo isnt riding the ship, instead they are going to a new platform with the whole NX thingy
If I'm right, I've heard they sell the game pad separately in Japan but you can only register one per console
i really doubt nintendo is going to drop the game pad if anything they make it a bit cheaper by taking features out. i completely agree with your idea for a 3ds add on.
i think the wii u is a warm up to a potential console/handheld machine maybe something a la vita tv, something you can plug to your tv and bring with you too.
Well done video. Though I love the gamepad, it's definitely a smart move to make it optional. When I picked up the new DKC game the other day, it became clear Nintendo is planning on doing this. There was no gamepad functionality in that game; I think a clear sign that your prediction may be fruitful. An expanded audience would be great.
Thank you for understanding my point. The plethora of people who assume I just "hate the gamepad" is astounding.
Hmmm…a 3DS add on...that does sound interesting.
I love Nintendo too and grew up with them, in fact if I didn't get a super Nintendo when I did I don't think I'd be into gaming as much as I am now.
I stuck with Nintendo up to the Gamecube, I had a Wii but rarely used it because I couldn't stand the motion controls. I do hope nintendo get some sense and start releasing games like Starfox, Fzero, Metroid etc. I do hope they remove the touch pad amd drop the price because if you ask me at its current price point its not worth it.
More Eternal Darkness: very yes.
I can see how it's hard to recommend the Wii U. I bought it last year and felt like a chump shortly after. Nowadays, I'm comfortable recommending it because of SM 3D World, since it's a fantastic game and there are a few more really good ones in the pipeline.
It really is a bummer that you can't get past the controller issues on the Wii. I agree that that situation was bad. But some very, very good games are Wii exclusives. I was able to get used to the Wii's remote + nunchuck thing by thinking of it as a split Xbox 360 or PS3 controller. With substantially less buttons.
Thanks for watching.
Sorry man, but, fuck the Wiimote.
AdamKoralik Not defending it. It sucks.
When infamous second son comes out i suggest it cause the infamous series has never disapointed...
Nintendo needs to hire you on the help save them business wise! I like you am a big Sega Dreamcast fan but like most retro systems. my step son and I have not upgraded from my 360 and his PS3 other then we did put our wii into retirement and got the WiiU and I'd say its my favorite but that's just due to my luv for the 2D style Mario games! keep up the great work and I hope to see new Dreamcast videos soon!!!! ever think of doing a video on getting the dreamcast back online with the new DreamPi setup? I have yet to donit but I'm buying the equipment now and trying to find the DreamPi program/image.
I gotta disagree about the SEGA CD being a mistake. Not only was it a mild financial success, but it made SEGA look like the more cutting-edge hardware company. This also probably helped untold Genesis sales from people having the mindset of upgrading it later with the SEGA CD to kinda trump their friends with SNESs. The 32X's life span was the real slap-in-the-face confidence breaker for them, and the CD gets unfairly lumped with it. I'm not saying that it was a good system, but wasn't a failure.
HOWEVER, if you really think about it though, the SEGA CD may actually be indirectly responsible the demise of SEGA as a hardware company. After the SEGA CD Nintendo stated trying to develop their own add-on with initial help from SONY, and we all know how that turned out. If the PlayStation was never released then the Saturn would've had a fighting chance in North America, and the Dreamcast would've done just fine.
Hindsight's 20/20, but in its time it was a good move.
You present a good point.
the funny thing about it is the sega cd is lead to Nintendo hiring Sony to make their version of a cd based attachment. unintentionally, and in a round about way, the Sega cd helped give us the playstation.
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Dude, I hope your right. NIntendo is still rich. If they dug deep and pumped out quality 1st and 2nd party titles and have an extremely affordable console...that could work.
I hope so too, I don't want to see Nintendo go anywhere.
Got my Wii U yesterday, sold my old phone for a £105 Amazon voucher so I got a Wii U with "Lego City Undercover" & I only paid £102 out of my own money. I also own a PS4.
To bad the wii u wasnt successfully. I love it and hate the wii. You are so right. Like the wii u more then the switch. Great video and could watch your old videos over and over again but love the new ones as well.
OK, I'll agree with you on the Original Wii controller. Some Spiderman games came on there and..... DAMN..!! I wished I could of used the classic controller on those, but no. You had to use the Wii controller with a nunchuck for it to work. Not cool. Other than that, It's alright.
I like your thinking, Adam.
Personally, I think as well this thing is only worth it for exclusive games cuz' anything else would be a waste of money, for both the players and developers.
Of course there are indie titles but that's another story.
So far, the WiiU is to me alot like the Saturn starting with its promotion... except alot worse when it comes to support.
Nintendo probably won't leave the 1st party field due "some" money loss but they'll have to figure out something that is neither another console for everyone or a power beast, especially since everything after the N64 used to be anything but the spotlight for devs.
Maybe they should do it like SEGA with the DC back then and push stuff like hell.
Even though this is an old comment, I thought I may as well say what I think.
So the Dreamcast (at least in North America) was discontinued a year and a half after it's release, and what you said is true. They pushed out a lot of awesome games in such a short time. But, it's competition, the Playstation 2, Gamecube and Xbox, were all on par with the Dreamcast in terms of power.
I think 3rd party developers knew what they would be getting into with Nintendo's hardware, with it being much like the Xbox 360's. But they also knew that Sony and Microsoft would push there consoles farther cause they knew what to do after learning with there consoles.
The Dreamcast on the other hand, was much more powerful then the PS1 and N64, because they had a console before it that stood up to the N64 and PS1. With the Wii and Wii U, not so much, because Nintendo was behind a generation since the Wii, with it being pretty much a Gamecube with full sized DVD's.
Sorry for the long post.
Some interesting points Adam, some which you are on the money such as the Wiimote. As a regular game controller it's bad, but used as a hand remote it's great, hence the old Classic Controller.
As for the Gamepad, I very much doubt Nintendo will sell the console without it because it is an integral part of the system set up, it's far more than just a controller. I would guess a fairly extensive firmware update would be required for the console to work alone. I have all the controllers, and all are fine for each game. In fact, using the Gamepad I find easier on racers for example, and it's excellently innovative for games like Windwaker.
Nintendo have only ever dumped one console, the Virtuaboy, and only because it was not only under developed, it was a health hazard. So I agree, dumping the WiiU is not an option as it will be shitting on their fanbase. However, some sort of sync with the 3DS would be beneficial. Nintendo still stand for what Famicom means, Family computer and maybe in this day and age that model is outdated, but I guess future first party games will be top notch.
Having used the Vita/ps4 features working together, I was not massively impressed. The lag is awful, some games are not compatible and the set up is riddled with bugs. The PS4 itself looks like it will be in eventual king of the 8th gen.
Nintendo's problem is not the hardware of the WiiU, it was the marketing, or lack of it, and over reliance of people buying it off the strength of their brand. As a system it's excellent and different from the other two, and it far more for 'the family' whilst tapping into the primary market, but not enough to impact Sony or possibly Microsoft.
Thank you for watching, you make some good points.
To clarify one thing, I don't WANT them to drop the gamepad, I actually like it. I just think they may do it to salvage the console as much as possible so they can gear up for the next move.
Kind of like Sony stripping out all those awesome features in the PS3. No one WANTED them to, but they had to to reduce cost and move units.
Regardless of how the sales numbers turn out, I LOVE the Wii U. It tends to get even more use than the PS4 right now. It has everything I've wanted since I was disappointed by the Wii ; great HD Nintendo games and no forced motion controls! The Wii U is a great console imho.
Though I may be a bit biased as the GameCube is perhaps my favorite console of all time, and the Wii U really brings me back to it in a way.
I don't play portable games unless I can do so on a TV, like with the GB Player for the GC. If Nintendo somehow made DS and 3DS games playable on the U, I think you are right; it will be beneficial for the console. However, I wonder if it is possible, and if Nintendo even recognizes that it would be a good move.
I think the problem with the gamepad is mostly that no one really knows what to do with it. From all the games I own, I think only Pikmin 3 used it properly. It's very appealing for RTS gaming or games that rely heavily on menu screens, like RPGs, but up until now it's a lot of waste potential because for some reason Nintendo insisted on first publishing games that don't really need it like platformers, and now no one really knows why we have this thing in the first place. Which is kind of a waste, really.
I think Nintendo is actually trying to get more mature games with Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame, but I think the whole family friendly image is not really attractive to most developpers, and there's not much nintendo can do about it, specially for Western development companies, I think. I mean look at Zombie U, I know it's a launch title, but it gives you the feeling that Ubisoft didn't really feel secure enough about a nintendo console to actually put effort into making an exclusive. At least that's my impression. Correct me if I'm BSing now.
Adam, if the Wii U is packaged without the gamepad, I think it might make the Wii U into a clone of the Wii and just confuse people even more. I think the Big N should focus on making the gamepad a more attractive part of the system with more games to utilize it and maybe improved features for TV connectivity and online browser interface.
I like the idea of some sort of crossover between the Wii U and 3DS. I liked the cross platform play for Monster Hunters for both systems.
3rd party developers. For some reason Square Enix comes to mind. They are coming out with Bravely Default for the 3DS and they intend to do a sequel for it. Perhaps a sequel on the Wii U and maybe a couple original IPs as well. And no crappy Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.
And I would also like to see the Big N do something original and exciting like make Club Nintendo live up to its true potential. Maybe have something like achiements or trophies for doing things in games, but it counts as coins toward your Club Nintendo account. They can always raise the points needed to redeem for rewards to offset the increased points people will have. And of course, replenish their physical rewards.
I could see that working actually.
To be honest they need to redesign the controller the button layout and analog placement which is above the buttons is no so great.
All they need to do is release Wavebird 2.0 great video Adam
Thanks.
I agree the Pro Controller could use a redesign as well.
I do agree with you on the fact that Nintendo should have offered the gamepad as a separate device instead of bundling it in. It was what put me off from getting a Wii U right out the door. I feared it would suck like the Wii-mote, which was also marketed to do awesome stuff and "change the way we'd play games", which were really just "meh" to horrid in execution (at least for me.). I also didn't want another pointless system taking up room because I hated the control.
But after finally caving and getting one last year, I really kind of like it.
I agree completely.
Good video Adam. Also good points regarding the Wii U, etc. I'll be honest, I got one just this last week and I actually really like the GamePad as a controller. Yeah it's a touch unwieldy for games like New Super Mario Bros. U, but it's actually not a half bad controller for what you get. The HDMI cable is really high quality as well, and it isn't a generic HDMI cable, which is wonderful. I really hope that there's only maybe a $50 price cut next for the Wii U because the HDMI cable, while it isn't necessarily a major selling point, is actually a nice quality HDMI cable and it completes the theming of the cables. I've even tried games like NES Remix (which is actually quite nice for a digital-only game), and I'm already used to the GamePad for the game experiences we've gotten already.
As far as your idea for a '3DS TV' accessory for the Wii U, it's a great idea, but I don't know how 99.9% of those games would upscale to a 1080p TV unless Nintendo did some serious under-the-hood magic. Great idea on paper, not sure Nintendo would nail it in the execution however. But, if it was a $50 accessory for the Wii U that would allow for people to record 3DS games without buying black-market 3DSes that have been modded for video capture? That would be huge. So I'm with you on the idea, I'm just hopeful the execution is on point for that sort of system-saving accessory.
Regarding the 3DS add-on, that's an excellent point. I think we'd have to accept it running at a lower resolution. Which wouldn't bother me much.
***** that was (unfortunately) exactly the kind of capture card I was talking about as a way NOT to go. A legit way to play 3DS games on a TV would be a killer app for the Wii U
No, I'm just interested in seeing competition, which almost always drags prices down.
great summary of the Wii U so far. i hope it picks up some speed, cos i do see it as my console of choice for the next gen, but i wont be getting one for a while yet..
Thank you sir.
"You just go ahead... and do that". Haha.
Seriously I think that the problems facing the WiiU are part of a larger problem facing Nintendo generally. Specifically Nintendo's games cover too narrow a niche to attract gamers from the other two main consoles (we can argue right now that WiiU has more games, but we all know that in a year or so this won't be the case). Combine that with Nintendo's family friendly image and you have a pretty serious medium term problem
Personally I can't think of one current Nintendo IP off the bat that interests me, there were titles in the past, but right now if you reel off IPs like Mario (and associated characters), Zelda and Pimkin it really feels stale to me. For sure the Nintendo loyal fanbase will get excited, but maybe even they are less and less excited about these titles.
The key in my opinion is to create some new IPs and a number of independent titles with a variety of genres with the same excellent production / gameplay values seen in Mario titles.
Part of the problem is that Nintendo's loyal fanbase are too 'close' to the problem to be able to see the solution. A lot claim loudly that they love their Wii U's and talk about how great the games are, when the fact is by any standard there are not many games on the WiiU and the variety isn't there. Does anybody really believe that the WiiU will have the games library of the Gamecube by the end of its run? Isn't it true that we might even be looking at a games library half that of the gamecube?
Finally the image thing is connected to new IPs, the company hasn't recognised just how many 20-35 year old gamers are out there and just how turned off those people are by the kiddy image, which is one that Nintendo has been trying to project themselves, as much as it is one that is pointed to by their detractors. New IPs and a change in direction, whilst maintaining existing quality titles will change that.
I adore my Wii U, but I don't think many people will buy one. I think in 10, 15 years people will wish they had, though, and it will blow up as a very popular retro console. It's the least online console of the current gen as well which will make it the most desirable of this gen in the future.
I agree completely.
Well Nintendo are already talking about the next console, currently codenamed NX. Bad idea? Nope. The thing people forget is this, Nintendo, on avg have a 5 year lifespan per console. US of course. Wii U launched in 2012, late 2012 yes, but 2012. This year will make it's third year in what November? What I'm saying is they're right on schedule with what they normally do, i don't think this gen will last as long as last gen, it can't. I could be wrong of course, but I hope Nintendo pulls itself back into competition with Sony and Microsoft.
If they made the GamePad a separate accessory:
1. There'd be basically NO innovation in their games. Which is what Nintendo is all about right now.
2. That'd make people EVEN MORE confused as to whether the GamePad is just a Wii Peripheral or not.
And for someone that knows so much about games, I'm surprised that you genuinely think they'd unbundle the only USP of the system. The Wii U's sales are getting much better.
Watch this, ruclips.net/video/7ARtdqYB4_g/видео.html
If you still disagree, I'd love to know why.
I will point out that before that video, the Wii U started turning profit (in October) and following Smash and Amiibo (admittedly after the video), their profits tripled.
Yes overall the year will probably be a loss because of the other 9 months of the year. But it's starting to look up.
Besides profit, I think a GamePad-less version of the Wii U could work providing that a GamePad bundled console still exists. HOWEVER, it's a decision that could still just burn fans and put them off buying the next console unless they just drop whatever innovation it brings.
Many of my friends who bought an Xbox One early became super pissed off when they dropped the price and removed Kinect. Now Kinect has hardly had any use in games since launch. Yes it helped sales massively, but they've pissed off early adopters, many of whom have traded in for a PS4.
Consumer relations are just as important as sales. By the way this is not meant as an attack or anything, I love your videos, I just disagree :)
Nintendo would benefit from buying back the Banjo series from RARE that would be an awesome exclusive
well the turbo express was truly the first hand held that you can play the actual games from the turbo grafx 16
No way..... Is that a Bluth's Banana Stand shirt?????????? where...want...need
I understand what you mean about the gamepad! Honestly. But I feel like it's potential is amazing. Nintendo Land is a lackluster single player experience but as a multiplayer game? It's a blaaaaaast. I'd hate for Nintendo to drop the gamepad now, I'd love to see the best they could do with it. The gamepad is no Kinect for sure.
As for the Wii U as a game console, I do think it's sorely underrated. I have 9 games for it currently and none to me are a waste of space. While the dwindling amount of multiplats are a problem. Tbh imo I feel it makes the Wii U stand out more actually. To me it's like the Wii U's library is made up of more great games than bad. It's underpowered sure but it's not making the games worse. I'd play SM3L any day over Ryse or Knack lol.
But anyway, good vid Adam!
Thank you sir.
If the wii u could play 3ds games and ds I'd definitely pick one up but right now I kinda just want to wait for the next generation
Adam, I liked NintendoLand too; but I wish that it had online multiplayer. It's like Nintendo hates the idea of playing with other people on the internet.
I really have to agree with you on the fact that Nintendo is doing it to themselves.
I agree man.
Thanks for watching.
How much better would the Wii u have done if the pro controller came with the console instead of the game pad thing and if none of the games required it? It might've been nintendo's time to shine back in the 8th generation, well maybe, I know the Wii u isn't as powerful as the base ps4 or xbox one but it is quite a bit more powerful than the xbox 360 and ps3 isn't it?
zombie u was a pro controller compatible game at the start (was in the zombiu starter pack included)
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I'd respectfully disagree with the point about Nintendo dropping the Wii U being detrimental to their home console division in the long run, the thing with Sega is that they did it with multiple platforms in the space of 5-6 years, whereas say, Microsoft, did a one-off with it concerning the original Xbox/360 transition and for the most part, got on just fine last gen.
Granted, I don't think it's a necessary move, all I'm saying is, it wouldn't be a terrible idea either. Other than that, pretty much agree with the video all round.
I agree that if they did that in like two years, then so be it. But doing it right now would be a disaster. It would destroy consumer confidence.
New Super Mario Bros. U just shows that all it takes is a firmware update to use the controller. I completely agree that all games should have the same firmware update, and shave off the Gamepad and make it optional.
first thing Nintendo needs to do is advertising; I live in the UK and in the time the wii u has been released I've only seen 1 TV commercial for the wii u while xbox one and ps4 have about 10 commerials a day. if nobody knows it exists nobodies going to buy it that is their main problem,the processing power really doesn't matter especially in the generation with the laws of deministing returns the gap between the wii u and xbox one and ps4 isn't as big of a gap as the gap between wii ,xbox 360 and ps3.
Nintendo need to tell people the console exists;people are going to buy something if they don't know it exists in the firstplace. most people I know never even heard of it and those who have think its an add on
I also have two questions. It's been a few years now, and they haven't came out with a new Metroid game yet? Or Megaman? Or The next Spiderman game?
What's going on here? Wheres all the games? Their company has always been about the games. Where are they?
Oh, and is the WII U backwards compatible?
Doua Yang Spider-Man gets plenty of games.
Nintendo not releasing more Metroid, yeah...you'd have to ask them.
Capcom not releasing a new Mega Man has been an issue for YEARS. So much that the creator left Capcom to make a spiritual sequel called Mighty Number 9.
With the Wii? Yes.
AdamKoralik Do you think Nintendo should re-introduce (kind of) the white Wii U and bundle it with the Pro controller and maybe Mario 3D world and have the price at $300 ish Australian dollars?
I really want to play Zelda, animal crossing, fire emblem, Kirby, and every other game I own on the 3ds in HD
I totally agree with the 3ds add on. I REALLY want them to do it but I doubt they will :(
Wow, you only had like 10 games at this point? You sure have gotten a lot Wii U games since then!
i love my wii u and i really like the gamepad, pro controller more. but i do like thought of playing all my wii u games like rayman legends and sonic lost world with the pro controller
I understand that problem you have with people unable to seperate the controller from the console. For me, the ease of use of the controller is one of the largest selling points.
When I bring up the PS2, I will gladly give it props and compliments, it has SO MANY GAMES, a built in DVD player, and backwards compatibility with virtually ALL PS1 games! However, the moment I start to say that the PS2 controller, and the entire PlayStation controller style (Save for PS4, I haven't gotten my hands on one of those yet) is not my style, instant Microsoft Fanboy accusation. Just because I like the GC/1stGenXbox/DC controllers over the PS2 does mean that I fault the console for that.
I don't like the whole 'use motion controls for Wii' thing, and as time goes on I really don't like the idea that it is in a remote shape. However, there are still quite a few good gems on that console. Fatal Frame 4 (Japanese only), the Resident Evil Darkside/Umbrella Chronicles and upgraded re-releases of REmake and RE4, along with Godzilla Unleashed, and the longer I sit here the more interesting games I can think that it got.
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I like your 3DS idea. Alot. There are no hand-held games I care for, but it's a cool idea in concept.
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A classic Resident Evil game with the old Item Management system would work decently well with the tablet I think.
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Thanks for this 'prediction' thing. It's interesting to see your thoughts and opinions, and I'm a little curious to see how much of this will turn out to be true.
Thanks for watching.
I'm curious to see how it'll play out too.
And congratulations, this one wasn't marked as spam!
FINALLY!