@@jayyaudio Out of my 9 IEMs 3 are $200-250 and while I like almost all of them in some regard something about my ew200 are more enjoyable and I am not really able to put into words what about them makes it better. What would you say is an upgrade to them? Something that has the same feel or whatever it is that makes me like the ew200 but is like a superior version. I am intrigued by ea500 lm, ea1000, pula pa02, and hype4 but I don't know how they compare to ew200. My thought with the simgots is maybe simgot has a house kind of sound so they would be upgrades but I dont know for sure and have no idea if the others are in the same category.
Unique sets are always worth some attention. As a Harman enjoyer I don't understand how people tend to stick to a target like it's the only "correct" tuning.
That’s definitely one hell of a frequency response. Having heard the whole review though, this almost feels like a classic planar headphone. Feels like a review of those OG Audeze and Hifiman which people praised to high heavens for the sense of space - probably because of the recessed ear gain and extended treble (and planar technicality)
@@En_Joshi-Godrezthat may be my memory being wrong. But even the newer Hifimans have a prominent scoop at the ear gain region. And I’ve just accepted that as a sound signature both Hifiman and Audeze went for many years ago
This is a wondrous IEM! Such a velvety veil too with all that airy soundstage. Purrfect for Metal and Jazz. It has changed my Metal game, totally. Love it. I know you have said slower songs, which is correct, but it's also great for rapid metal with its velvety sound, especially paired with FC6, and that airy huge circular soundstage. Best left-field pick i have made in this hobby. Once you get used to its soundscape, it gets very addictive. And paired with FC6, the bass is tighter and enough for me, and mids add a lovely layer to it. Overall, pretty chuffed with this addictive gem, and gets used the most along with Aful P8.
@@toplee6447 I would say yes. The price has dropped further I read somewhere. Best thing is it takes insane bass boost - eq or from a dac with that feature if you have. But yeah , I use without those tweaks as I have other iem for that. This is great for jazz/soul intimate. Airy treble, wide soundstage (more width than depth though) and that cosy sound. Not an all-rounder but it does take to EQ well if you want more low end. As @jayaudio says it's a pretty unique iem.
@@toplee6447its a neutral-bright iem that pulls out fantastic details with treble-rich energy. More sub bass than mid bass focus. Use it for orchestral, soundtracks, and such. The iem i use the most is by a japanese. 634ears. Product is warm bassy analogue: miroak-ii. Single DD. Iam now eying his flagship loak-txo2.
I currently own the 7hz legato. How much of an upgrade will I get by moving up to the nightingale, Blessing 3, Thieaudio Hype 2, and others in the 300-400$ price range. Note: I listen to the legato by EQing the subbass down cause I realized I am not a basshead.
Very little at first, then you get used to it and complacent. Once you go back to a cheaper set, then you'll notice how enormous the difference is. Its like how we used to have Internet that took 10 second to load a image, and that was considered "fine". Or go a find a iPhone 3GS. That was state of the art, only for it now to be effectively unusable. You only appreciate what you have when you under dearest that it can be taken away. The jump between them will be no different.
@@chinmayrasamas En correctly decribed, diminishing returns doesn't actually exist, they are purly psychological. To the majority of people, you've already gone past the realm of diminishing returns because to most people earpods are good enough. The only reason you disagree is because you have a different experience which has shaped your psychology. You will never get the clear cut answer you want for when diminishing returns happens because everyone has a different brain with different outcomes to stimulus. There is no "consensus", only groups of people with simular brains and experiences to eachother, but that doesn't mean they have the simular psychology to you. Diminishing returns does not exist, it is intangible.
how much difference do you notice from switching between the same song on tidal(Highest quality possible) and lets say youtube or spotify? Extra details/more musical or enjoyable?
Very helpful, thanks. I’m really tempted by these, as a contrast to my Dunu DaVinci and Simgot EA500lm, especially for classical. Any others that you’d suggest? (Love Lana Del Rey and similar).
Good news Jay!!. I found a way to get the Studio 4s delivered to me with 18% off as well. Now I have to wait 4 weeks for it to arrive 😭😭😭. So excited to try it out.
Reminds me of 8SS or EX800ST with better treble extension. I think such 'flat' tunings do have potential to be placed as a typical taste as commented by @PEANUTGALLERY81. One thing I wonder is if it responds well to EQing. If so, just for that it having actual treble extension, being a rather large diaphram driver, and having less wobblier treble than most planar we usually see (Timeless, S12 etc...), I feel like it could be a potential 'FR emulator' platform as well, especially with 5128 readings someday.
great review, specially that you go into detail regarding soundstage depth and layering. This is the most important to me. I like sitting in the last row in a stadium "seeing" the orchestra in the distance. Do you know an over ear open headphone under 1.500$ preferably a planar that does this? it should not have a subbass roll off, but doesnt need to have an emphasis. i dont llisten to vocals, so i dont like pushed upper mids as well as emphasized treble. Would much appreciate any suggestions to look at.
@@jayyaudiobro, I own both EA500LM and EA1000 and find the latter to be superior in areas of clarity and detail. Now I'm considering this Nightingale as an alternative to the already excellent EA1000 but EA500LM is recommended instead over Nightingale 😅
Looks like they were told "flat is neutral". Lmao
Skinny is back in season baby
@@jayyaudio Out of my 9 IEMs 3 are $200-250 and while I like almost all of them in some regard something about my ew200 are more enjoyable and I am not really able to put into words what about them makes it better. What would you say is an upgrade to them? Something that has the same feel or whatever it is that makes me like the ew200 but is like a superior version. I am intrigued by ea500 lm, ea1000, pula pa02, and hype4 but I don't know how they compare to ew200. My thought with the simgots is maybe simgot has a house kind of sound so they would be upgrades but I dont know for sure and have no idea if the others are in the same category.
Really like the fact you rec which genres are best suited for the set. Hope you do the same thing for your future reviews
Unique sets are always worth some attention. As a Harman enjoyer I don't understand how people tend to stick to a target like it's the only "correct" tuning.
Same. Vanilla cake is great, but I need some my triple chocolate cheesecake
Real
That’s definitely one hell of a frequency response. Having heard the whole review though, this almost feels like a classic planar headphone. Feels like a review of those OG Audeze and Hifiman which people praised to high heavens for the sense of space - probably because of the recessed ear gain and extended treble (and planar technicality)
The old hifimans had recessed upper mids?
I also got lucky with unit that had less treble than some of the other ones, but ya these are dope
@@En_Joshi-Godrezthat may be my memory being wrong. But even the newer Hifimans have a prominent scoop at the ear gain region. And I’ve just accepted that as a sound signature both Hifiman and Audeze went for many years ago
This is a wondrous IEM! Such a velvety veil too with all that airy soundstage. Purrfect for Metal and Jazz. It has changed my Metal game, totally. Love it. I know you have said slower songs, which is correct, but it's also great for rapid metal with its velvety sound, especially paired with FC6, and that airy huge circular soundstage. Best left-field pick i have made in this hobby. Once you get used to its soundscape, it gets very addictive. And paired with FC6, the bass is tighter and enough for me, and mids add a lovely layer to it. Overall, pretty chuffed with this addictive gem, and gets used the most along with Aful P8.
especially even more as i got it in used market for 140$. Best buy evaaaah!
@@Crashboomwallop I am looking for new IEMs for vocal jazz and soul. These might be the perfect choice?
@@toplee6447 I would say yes. The price has dropped further I read somewhere. Best thing is it takes insane bass boost - eq or from a dac with that feature if you have. But yeah , I use without those tweaks as I have other iem for that. This is great for jazz/soul intimate. Airy treble, wide soundstage (more width than depth though) and that cosy sound. Not an all-rounder but it does take to EQ well if you want more low end. As @jayaudio says it's a pretty unique iem.
@@Crashboomwallop Much appreciate your reply. What genre do you use your P8 for?
@@toplee6447its a neutral-bright iem that pulls out fantastic details with treble-rich energy. More sub bass than mid bass focus. Use it for orchestral, soundtracks, and such. The iem i use the most is by a japanese. 634ears. Product is warm bassy analogue: miroak-ii. Single DD. Iam now eying his flagship loak-txo2.
Is Aful Magicone's review coming soon?
Next week when I get it
I have one question kiwiears quintet vs truthear nova, which one has better technical performance and bass texture.
Similar, bass texture Nova depending on the unit - I had 2 novas, one had little bass, the other had too much bass lol
@@jayyaudio and which one have better technical performance quintet or nova?
You’re on fire ❗️😁Great review Thank you
Thank you 😁
I currently own the 7hz legato. How much of an upgrade will I get by moving up to the nightingale, Blessing 3, Thieaudio Hype 2, and others in the 300-400$ price range. Note: I listen to the legato by EQing the subbass down cause I realized I am not a basshead.
Very little at first, then you get used to it and complacent. Once you go back to a cheaper set, then you'll notice how enormous the difference is. Its like how we used to have Internet that took 10 second to load a image, and that was considered "fine". Or go a find a iPhone 3GS. That was state of the art, only for it now to be effectively unusable. You only appreciate what you have when you under dearest that it can be taken away. The jump between them will be no different.
Ya not that much, the bigger jump would be to the Monarch MK3 or Xenns TOP
@@jayyaudio 10x the price. Diminishing returns is an interesting topic for a video. What do you think the sweet spot is for an IEM and headphones?
@@chinmayrasamas En correctly decribed, diminishing returns doesn't actually exist, they are purly psychological. To the majority of people, you've already gone past the realm of diminishing returns because to most people earpods are good enough. The only reason you disagree is because you have a different experience which has shaped your psychology. You will never get the clear cut answer you want for when diminishing returns happens because everyone has a different brain with different outcomes to stimulus. There is no "consensus", only groups of people with simular brains and experiences to eachother, but that doesn't mean they have the simular psychology to you. Diminishing returns does not exist, it is intangible.
Jay what are the best sources for music and that are cheap and convenient?
Did you find that kiwiear melody work best with its stocktips?
Ya stock tips are fine, source wise I use the Topping G5 - I haven't tried any of the other ones, sorry!
Please compare the clarity and details with the Aful MagicOne which luckily you do have
Nightingale much better - might be too sharp tho depending on the unit (mine has less treble)
I love my sv023 and am awating for sivga to improve their IEM game
sv021 too
One last question about the melody , how does the melody perform against the S12 in terms (Tech,Tuning ,different music genres etc)
S12 sounds lighter, Melody has more bass impact, other than that similar tech
Really helpful, thank you. Lana Del Rey, classical etc got me. Thanks.
how much difference do you notice from switching between the same song on tidal(Highest quality possible) and lets say youtube or spotify? Extra details/more musical or enjoyable?
Tidal and Spotify is slightly better
there's upper treble reduction when you listen on yt
yo jay have you tried tinhifi C3? How does it compare to ew200 in terms of techs
EW200 better
Very helpful, thanks.
I’m really tempted by these, as a contrast to my Dunu DaVinci and Simgot EA500lm, especially for classical. Any others that you’d suggest?
(Love Lana Del Rey and similar).
ziigaat cinno if you want something clean for $100
@@jayyaudio thanks for that much appreciated. And cheaper than the Sivga Nightingale by some way.
Good news Jay!!.
I found a way to get the Studio 4s delivered to me with 18% off as well.
Now I have to wait 4 weeks for it to arrive 😭😭😭.
So excited to try it out.
Enjoy~
I need to get a planar IEM in my arsenal soon.😊
Reminds me of 8SS or EX800ST with better treble extension. I think such 'flat' tunings do have potential to be placed as a typical taste as commented by @PEANUTGALLERY81. One thing I wonder is if it responds well to EQing. If so, just for that it having actual treble extension, being a rather large diaphram driver, and having less wobblier treble than most planar we usually see (Timeless, S12 etc...), I feel like it could be a potential 'FR emulator' platform as well, especially with 5128 readings someday.
I’ll give it a shot 👍 The driver does seem very promising
I don t understand why they put that mild pick at 1000-1700 hz and not at 2000-3000 hz it would make more sense
great review, specially that you go into detail regarding soundstage depth and layering. This is the most important to me. I like sitting in the last row in a stadium "seeing" the orchestra in the distance. Do you know an over ear open headphone under 1.500$ preferably a planar that does this? it should not have a subbass roll off, but doesnt need to have an emphasis. i dont llisten to vocals, so i dont like pushed upper mids as well as emphasized treble. Would much appreciate any suggestions to look at.
If you want soundstage HD800 is pretty good, but I dunno much about headphones sorry
Sure, if you kill lows you get plenty of details up high. Look at Dioko.
Better than Dioko, stage and tech is way better
This vs dunu falcon ultra，which better？
SIMGOT EA500LM
@@jayyaudiobro, I own both EA500LM and EA1000 and find the latter to be superior in areas of clarity and detail. Now I'm considering this Nightingale as an alternative to the already excellent EA1000 but EA500LM is recommended instead over Nightingale 😅
Not my cup of tea, but still checking in.