This cricket tak guy vikrant not even done live shows during olympics and didn't follow a single sport during 4 years and now he is in debate for reviewing India's performance at olympics . My goodness 😭
bro u cant give reason of cricket, brodcasting Pakistan arshad nadeem won gold with 0 government support here Indian government supported athletes hence that reason don't work here
This debate always happens whenever the Olympics concluded.. Nothing changes..again this type of debate happens after 2028 la Olympics these things will never end ..We can't compete the bigger countries in sports... Simple is that we don't have that sporting culture and that infrastructure and moreover that sincerity..
Do you often get to see national and international level competitions of weightlifting, fencing , swimming , gymnastics , boxing , shooting etc etc on tv? No bcs they never get broadcasted.. and they are not advertised properly to create hype so that public watch them.. unlike cricket..Do you get to watch indian football matches on tv? How we are supposed to watch them throughout the year if it doesn't even come on tv?? I don't know about others but i always get to watch cricket being broadcasted most of the time in all ten sports channels and bcs tennis is my fav sport so i watch it regularly, in that also no india tennis matches come only inyernational so you can't evwn get to know more indian tennis players other than some famous ones.... other than that sony shows golf , motor bike racing , canoeing , sailing (all foreign matches) so what am i supposed to watch????
Don't worry it will not change even in 2075...pity india and its development in sports and other areas like infrastructure, cleanliness,discipline , nothing will change,india can change only if democratic replaced with communism for 20-25years,Periodla
470 cr = 6 medals still we should not criticize what logic is this and with that logic even West Indies ex cricketers shouldn't criticize their current cricket team isn't it
Thanks but we don't compare with Pakistan as you have different problem with different population our competitors are China and other western countries we want to be best of all but our poor education system of job seeker mentality behold us Respect for Arshad,he deserves more✌️ @@aliminhal5249
India Sport Industry 2 Billion dollar Chine Sport Industry 7.5 Hundred Billion dollar India have 1000 Stadium China have 1 Lacs 70000 Stadium India cricket -> 87% of total sport capital or resources Surrender Mentality Conformity People play sports only for Job in India
We should focus on bollywood and media. We aren't a sporting nation. In movies we can be anything like world champions and gold medalists so lets focus on movies only.
toh 'sir' kyun bolte ho ? .. thats sheepish. Yeh 'sir' 'sir' culture hi mediocrity & submission ka root cause hai. Call people by name.. respect yourself & the person you are addressing to. Once you call someone a 'sir' .. or 'saheb', you are already putting them up on a pedestal & lose your ability to question them, to be critical of them when they slip up. Stop this mediocre 'sir' & 'saheb' culture. Calling people by their name is the most respect you can give anyone. Even elders .. except grandpa / grandma level elders.
Bruh there ain't any need to yap so long for someone calling other guy 'sir' like wtf that's such an obscure and futile thing to point out. Think better lol.@@note4g.airolinote4g.airoli96
New Zeland with 40 lakh population winning 10 gold and 20 medals in total, but we are a country of 140 crore with no sporting culture at all, it's a shame that amid all hype and support we are languishing below par at 72!
least population means less competition and better facilities and economics available to every citizen. huge population means more competition less resources and poor economics.
Starting? India has always rewarded mediocrity. They get happy with just qualifying. It’s not even facilities it’s more to do with the mindset of people and the athlete. Apart from a few athletes from Haryana including neeraj Chopra no one has that urge to be the best and improve. He is the only Indian athlete I have seen who is not happy with a silver.
@@05DonnieB North Korea is communist country they take sports seriously Rest 3 counties have black athletes who are very good in track and field events
The guy who spoke first sends his kid to Cricket coaching and not Badminton coaching, not tennis coaching, not football coaching, not athletics coaching, not boxing coaching. That answers the question we are discussing. The only person who made sense was the lady who spoke last. The others were just showing off their arrogance and have no idea about the sacrifices a sportsman has to make to compete at the Olympics. You train 4 years of your life, sacrifice your childhood and youth for that moment and the margin of error is so thin. How many of these journos will allow their children to make those sacrifices? India is still a country of the poor, accept that before comparing it with Australia or the USA
Yes India didn't won because India today didn't cover other games.why would they cover mediocrity?war torn countries do better than India,even Afghanistani c team with some players not having pro contract defeated Indian football team which are highly paid in comparison to other South Asian nations,yet no questions were asked.So this prove their point that we reward mediocrity.when someone criticises athletes people say why you are criticising them,by this logic no one should question govt and beurocrats.the day athletes would be held accountable and bronze would be considered as defeat instead of victory India will win
Even in college group discussions, there is a flow and a conclusion; however, here, it felt more like a series of self-presentations about their knowledge of the Olympics, lacking the depth of good journalism and meaningful discussion.
Would you allow your daughter who is a wrestler and let the WFI chief ruin your daughter's careers ! And none of your children play any of the sports because you are more than a middle class family ❤
At first it's media duty to raise the voice of other sports other thn only cricket..thn only people will pick up playing other sports as profession...All media hypes are on cricket becoz in cricket their income is good naa selfish media..at least they should be selfless thn the real truth comes out...!!@@ankit-un2rd
Gyan dena asan hai bro jake dekho sports tak par olympics ke videos ke views aur cricket ke videos ke views tumhe pta chal jayega galti unki nahi hmari hai.😊@@abhigyapranshu4791
Pak finished above us 😅.. Our politician has no vision they are corrupted.. Throw all the politicians out of sports federation.. Identify kids, not elite athletes.. Our PM wants to host 2036 Olympics.. We need at least 15 Golds to finish in top 10 & we won't even finish in top 20 in 2036..
Top 10 mai finish karna impossible hai bharat ke liye kyuki humlog traditional sports ke alawa baki ke sports khelte he nahi hai india mai jaise ki gymnastics, acquatics, judo, taekwondo, rowing, sailing, fencing, equestrian, baseball, softball, water polo etc
@@kunalnagarkoti4409 Enough with this bs about throwing politicians out of sports organisation, BCCI, the most efficient sporting body in the country is managed by politicians from start, they have built a ridiculously good & effective cricketing infrastructure around the country, upto every smaller states. Most of the the other sport bodies are ran by formers players compared to BCCI. Former players who don't no sh*t about management shouldn't be the one running the organisations.
@@SaralSaadheSoppe He played with more than a dozen others to win one medal such is the nature of the sport he participates in. Where are the individual medals?
Cricket is successful because the BCCI manages it professionally and it doesn't tolerate mediocrity. Yes, politics and corruption happen in BCCI - but they deliver the results. This is the difference between Cricket and the rest of the sports in India.
You are right about BCCI but what goes in its favour is that it's an independent autonomous body, free from government influence...That is why it's doing well despite corruption. our Government tends to ruin everything good after their unneedful interference
One think i don't understand that one side we talk about competing with china and the other side we celebrate winning 6 medals when china winning 91 medals
In a region the common discourse has idioms like "kheloge kudoge toh ho jaoge kharab, padhoge likhoge toh banoge nawab" How can we expect to win medals. And let's look at bigger picture, the underlying fact is that after every national achievement done by an individual, we go crazy on a social media frenzy and create demigods out of individuals. We, as a nation need to look into our common discourse, which celebrates mediocrity and hinders excellence. Remember these medals are not because of system but despite the system. It's a shame that one sixth of humanity doesn't has a solid sporting culture despite having a great history.
Boria muzumdar is way better than vikrant gupta in terms of overall sports knowledge. If vikrant gupta does 350 days of cricket tak live, he doesnt have a right to even say a word ahy we cant win gold.
Doing cricket cricket before and after Olympics and then start debating about why India do not win medals, i urge people to follow other sports channels such as NNIS, Pahadi brothers etc who talk about sports other than cricket
The discussion was so amateur and childish. And there were way too many panelists. And what is Vikrant doing here? He hardly knows anything about cricket forget about athletics.
This discussion is the perfect example why we don't do well. The panelist are all trying to talk over the others. The modarator is almost silent, the discipline is lacking. It is hard to understand who is saying what. I shall borrow a quote "We don't listen as much as we hear"
This debate doesn't pickup the most essential part of the sport development. "How many sports have we tried as a child or teenager?" This question answers the whole debate.. it's the school and school system. China is a bad example we have to take example of USA. How they have integrated sports with education.
China is the best example bcoz they hv similar population as ours , US is a unique case where there is less competition and ppl themselves choose what they wish to do and there r enough opportunities to pursue it , unlike India
Do this type of discussion for 4 continuous years. Question federation, gov policies everything. Unless fans and media create pressure on fed and gov both will do nothing. Why can't sports tak have a dedicated discussion for other sports twice every week. Media should also change their approach
guys, why are you talking as if we got 30 bronze medals..we have ONLY got 5 bronze medals! It's not like we got Bronze is many events. Cricket is destroying other sports, and that's the fact. Unless you divert attention from Cricket to other sports, no youngster will have interest or incentive to play other sports
Infrastructure plays a part, yes. But what about the sporting culture in the country? Are we willing to follow these athletes over the next 4 years? Did Vikrant Gupta ever do a non-cricket show on Sports Tak? A top cricketer farts, and they do a 20-min segment explaining the gaseous state of the emission on that channel. Did they do any segments on Hockey or Badminton or Shooting or Wrestling in all this while??
Will all of you follow other sports in next 4 years have you reported french open? Have you reported thomas cup? Have you reported asian games 2022?? No, so you donot have right to debate on this topic .
Each sports federation will have their own world tournament on an annual basis and if you are on the podium for those tournaments (like the indian shooters and the javelin thrower), then you are considered one of the favorites. If you are lower ranking in these tournaments but just did enough to qualify for the Olympics for your nation, congrats and enjoy the Olympic experience. Unless you get very lucky, you will not hit the podium. I don't know how many of India's 100+ athletes are favorites (based on their achievements in the annual tournament of their sports). People can usually predict the medals of each country based on these annual tournaments. Simone Biles got gold in the 2023 world championships for all around. Gold for all around gymnastics in the Olympics. Quan Hongchan got gold in the 2024 world championship for 10 m platform diving. gold in Olympics. please see Indian athlete's progress in these tournaments and support them with resources to win in those tournaments. Do not only look every 4 years in the Olympics and expect a 12th place finisher in the annual tournaments to medal.
They talked very less about what policy should be made in longer term, that can bring the raw talent. You give them financial security and facilities from early age, I bet, India will bring medals in next 10 years.
who is this lady on the right?🤣🤣🤣 Pointing fingers like a she's a bharat ratna awardee😆😆first we treat our wrestlers badly and then blame the athletes as if they're not trying their best.😂
@@snehalkhatri9357 They have won medals, as much talent we have, we have got it, only Neeraj Chopra was in top 3 ranking, hockey team was 7th still won medal, lakshya ranked 22 came 4th. 4th place happens, we should find more talented people. Like in cricket, if one player doesn't perform, we replace them, don't blame them. Medal means much more to them than to us so they work hard but if you have enough people at the top, like china has 5 players in top 10 etc, then you'll win gold. If you expect 20th ranked player to win a medal, you're expecting too much.
What else do you expect from a nation which treats one sport as religion, and its players are as Gods. These are the same channels and same anchors which only wake up to other sports once in 4 years and for the rest of the time dish out cricket news for more eye balls! And now the hypocrites are discussing why do we not have enough medals in Olympics. We need to take bold decisions and all the money should not go to one sport (look at what players got for winning T20 WC), the monopoly of BCCI should end, we people should start celebrating other sports and downplay cricket and the channels must not cover only cricket (irrespective of eyeballs), only then we can have a culture of sports in this country. If cricketers keep getting so much money (thanks to IPL) every child will want to become a cricketer, why will they embrace other sport? Only after these hard steps are taken, we can then start working on the points these people are discussing. What they are discussing is only software, which cannot work without a robust operating system. Throughout this discussion they are conveniently ignoring the operating system, and the entire discussion is on software!
Khud kya ukhada jindegi me dusro ko Gyan de raha hai kuch Nehi ho sakta.....tu jindegi mai kuch Nehi kar saka to Gyan mat chod.....achanak se koyi medal Nehi Lata china, Australia, USA ka sports budget dekh jakar yaha hockey k players ka khana toilet mai banta hai uske bad bhi wo medals lekar arahe hai..... infrastructure bana ne ko bol govt ko phir cricket ki tarah criticism karenge medal Nehi jita
@@anonymous_0731Ethiopia Uganda ka haal humse bhi bura hai even Kenya ka bhi shooting me inko Croatia bheja gya tha archery me 40cr ka budget lgaya tha boxing me high budget tha ek me bhi gold nhi aaya
All these journalist have not even conducted a single show in 4 year for paris Olympics and now suddenly they are talking about it because it can got some views. Do these journalist and channel cover other sports for 4 year continuously like they cover cricket
The immediate fix is that Indian government provides scholarships to Indian high school kids to USA colleges to train in sports. After all, the IIT JEE topper is immediately admitted to MIT on full scholarship.
@@JaiPrakash-gc6ji Building own ecosystem may take 5 or more years. I spoke of immediate need, like send today. In U.S. UCLA, UC berkeley and many other universities have world-class athletes. Such systems take long to setup. In India, how do you get to train with top U.S. atheletes
@Vikrant you keep on bringing example of Cricket again and again ...please explain to the viewers what India has done in cricket ..won only 4 world cups in last 50 years ..do we not celebrate mediocrity in India for Cricket ..problem is we as a nation is so obsesses with Cricket that we neglect other sports ..and reality is India is not at all good in Cricket ..the amount of focus we give to Cricket we should have won 10 world cups by now ..look at Australia they won the world cup max times and is no 4 in medal list in Olympic ..the problem is cricket and unless and untill IPL is stopped situation will remain same
Fire in the belly win medals - Mr Gaurav Sawant.😂😂 Bro all 10000 athletes go with fire in the belly, ,but those who have worked for their goals and with the ability to perform under immense pressure win medals.
We need more people like Vikrant & Akshita, Gaurav who have guts to call a Spade a Spade, DO NOT reward Mediocrity. Players have excellent facilities yet they fail.
we win cricket world cups after years where only 4-5 countries are capable of winning...and you blame players who are exposed to so much of attention and pressure and media once in 4 years?
@@ivaerz4977 bro if you would have followed Hockey India were playing that one match without amit rohidas....who is the most important defender... specially during corners....and India did concede 2 goals in penalty.Else india were the better team .They deserved gold this time.Nothing like stamina is the issue....they have won medals two consecutive times this shows how good they are
Where were you when these athletes especially the wrestlers were protesting against the sexual assault cases! And if no support for them you will get this 😢
Only one thing india had to do for improving sports that focus on third tier cities and develop sports complex because maximum athletes come from these cities and they don't have any resources in their cities and introduce inter school competition strictly.
Please discuss what's happening in our schools we're most teachers don't understand sports Physical education teachers in schools are the biggest bane of indian sports they are outdated
The only offensive Indian problem of Indian sports till now is CRICKET 🏏🏏😂😂 And every youth who is commenting on the video along with Vikrant also know it better than me as he is also a part of the cricket media projection....but still we will deny as IPL,world cup is coming.... That's money baby 🤑🤑
😇😇😇We have definitely improved because many players were lost in Qf, Sf and even Finals. We need to convert this hardwork into medals now....keep going. We have not forget 107 medals in Asian Games. Olympic is a higher stage which needs higher nerves and preparation...Work on it...💪🏅👏🚩🚩🚩
Our cities are too messy and crowded. No top athletes will come from there. Nobody can master a sport in a big city by playing 8 hours in a day. T1 cities cannot nurture excellence. We will get athletes from T2 and T3 cities and villages. Focus on them and provide facilities there.
Fire in the belly: Deepika Kumari never had that ..she herself admits that she cracks under the pressure of winning medals for the country. She cannot pick up even half of the confidence that those South Korean girls have in archery
We need to move beyond celebrating the medals. The authorities need to invest in the journey of players. Support them, polish them. Then celebration will have a true meaning. The recent example of PT Usha washing her hands off the weight issue with Vinesh Phogat is a case in point.
Olympic sports in India will first have to fetch medals and then expect Government and Corporate patronage.We dont have a big first generation of pure Olympic medal winners yet. So money will follow success, unfortunately,not precede it.I guess this reflects our historic focus in Olympic sports and level of seriousness until very recently. 😮
Until we have 1000*100 square yards concrete schools without playgrounds and gave single game period taken over by Maths teacher to finish their syllabus….We will keep performing badly at the Olympics👀
Vikrant ul haq, 364 days cricket journalist, 1 day sports journalist.
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vikrantulla type karte hee ulti ka emoji aataai type list may, just imagine even phone knows it 🤯🥵
This cricket tak guy vikrant not even done live shows during olympics and didn't follow a single sport during 4 years and now he is in debate for reviewing India's performance at olympics . My goodness 😭
Same buddy what a hypocrisy 🙄
Ya crazy they invited him . Maybe invite a Prakash Padukone or Abhinav bindra
Vikrant is comparing cricket to Olympics..he is a joker ... he doesn't even know Olympics
bro u cant give reason of cricket, brodcasting Pakistan arshad nadeem won gold with 0 government support here Indian government supported athletes hence that reason don't work here
He only bangs cricket and he us here to talk olympics utter non sense
This debate always happens whenever the Olympics concluded.. Nothing changes..again this type of debate happens after 2028 la Olympics these things will never end ..We can't compete the bigger countries in sports... Simple is that we don't have that sporting culture and that infrastructure and moreover that sincerity..
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Do you often get to see national and international level competitions of weightlifting, fencing , swimming , gymnastics , boxing , shooting etc etc on tv? No bcs they never get broadcasted.. and they are not advertised properly to create hype so that public watch them.. unlike cricket..Do you get to watch indian football matches on tv? How we are supposed to watch them throughout the year if it doesn't even come on tv??
I don't know about others but i always get to watch cricket being broadcasted most of the time in all ten sports channels and bcs tennis is my fav sport so i watch it regularly, in that also no india tennis matches come only inyernational so you can't evwn get to know more indian tennis players other than some famous ones.... other than that sony shows golf , motor bike racing , canoeing , sailing (all foreign matches) so what am i supposed to watch????
Don't worry it will not change even in 2075...pity india and its development in sports and other areas like infrastructure, cleanliness,discipline , nothing will change,india can change only if democratic replaced with communism for 20-25years,Periodla
the journalist wearing black says I give you an example 1000 times 😂
A country with reservation should not complain about mediocrity
Dont watch them for 4 years and then criticize😂😂😂
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They are funded for 4 years, why accountability shouldn't be asked?
@@surajsinghh566 i will fund you . go win :D go ! lol ... u cant win even ludo if funded.
470 cr = 6 medals still we should not criticize what logic is this and with that logic even West Indies ex cricketers shouldn't criticize their current cricket team isn't it
Funded only after they win something on their own. But china fund support them from childhood. @@surajsinghh566
Does Vikrant know anything about Olympics😂
Cricket Cricket Cricket😂
vikrantulla 🤮 doesn't even know cricket properly, how will he know other sports 🤮🤮🥹😭😫
Tum se to jayada hi janta hoga😂
Indian film industry will make a film on olympics where every GOLD medal will be won by INDIA, so don't worry.
Fake ID pakistani.Only they can say this kinda nonsense
Bro India did well ok love from Pakistan ❤
Thanks but we don't compare with Pakistan as you have different problem with different population our competitors are China and other western countries we want to be best of all but our poor education system of job seeker mentality behold us
Respect for Arshad,he deserves more✌️
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Bhai humaare Bhaarat mein hee ashwani lumar ki tarah panoti log hai, isliye desh ka yeh haal hai 🙁☹️🙄
India Sport Industry 2 Billion dollar
Chine Sport Industry 7.5 Hundred Billion dollar
India have 1000 Stadium
China have 1 Lacs 70000 Stadium
India cricket -> 87% of total sport capital or resources
Surrender Mentality
Conformity
People play sports only for Job in India
Ye baat acharya prasant ne kaha hai
Acharya prashants answer
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I agree 100% with sports/job argument.We are still a poor country,let's accept it😮
@@cricketguru6005😂😂😂 Yes me bhi bohi soch raha hu. Asrya se gayan lekar aya he.😂
We should focus on bollywood and media. We aren't a sporting nation. In movies we can be anything like world champions and gold medalists so lets focus on movies only.
Ye vikrant sir ko kuchh bhi nhi pata kyunki jindgi bhar cricket ke baat karte hai
toh 'sir' kyun bolte ho ? .. thats sheepish. Yeh 'sir' 'sir' culture hi mediocrity & submission ka root cause hai. Call people by name.. respect yourself & the person you are addressing to. Once you call someone a 'sir' .. or 'saheb', you are already putting them up on a pedestal & lose your ability to question them, to be critical of them when they slip up. Stop this mediocre 'sir' & 'saheb' culture. Calling people by their name is the most respect you can give anyone. Even elders .. except grandpa / grandma level elders.
Yeh front footie kab se Tera sir ho gaya
Bruh there ain't any need to yap so long for someone calling other guy 'sir' like wtf that's such an obscure and futile thing to point out. Think better lol.@@note4g.airolinote4g.airoli96
Indian media ranking - 159/ 200
India ranking in Olympic - 71/200
😂😂 Phir bhi mooh kholna h aur criticize karna h
There is no logic
@@snehalkhatri9357think again and you will get the logic behind
@@snehalkhatri9357 it makes a lot of sense
Ye sahi tha guru😂😂
New Zeland with 40 lakh population winning 10 gold and 20 medals in total, but we are a country of 140 crore with no sporting culture at all, it's a shame that amid all hype and support we are languishing below par at 72!
And then you have to only look at the portion of this population belonging to 15 to 32 age group.
@@udaykadam5455India would still be number 1 in that list due to its huge population
It's genetics and dietary.
Poorer African nations have done better than us despite having a fraction of our population
least population means less competition and better facilities and economics available to every citizen. huge population means more competition less resources and poor economics.
@@akshaypadmanabhan8582 bhai kya likh rha h, more population means more taxes and money, and more ppl competing in multiple sports
Vikrant Is talking about mediocrity
There is no expert on this topic that means no data scientists or former athletes or sportspersons 😂! Vikrant can't do analysis of this
well pointed out . these dumbs cant figure out the issue
First of all we are not a sporting nation .💔
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Indian journos saying "we shouldn't celebrate mediocrity" .. oh the irony 🙈
Because they need just some matter to debate.
The girl in the pink jacket is not listening and just talking over others continously.
That's odd, possibly to flaunt her English skills.
Starting? India has always rewarded mediocrity. They get happy with just qualifying. It’s not even facilities it’s more to do with the mindset of people and the athlete. Apart from a few athletes from Haryana including neeraj Chopra no one has that urge to be the best and improve. He is the only Indian athlete I have seen who is not happy with a silver.
if you domt provide best facility how can u win gold
@debameetsaha3906 I guess North Korea, Kenya, Ethiopia, Cuba, etc. all have better facilities than India?? Yet you have nukes for some reason😂 😂
Yes, they provide better facilities for their athletes. @@05DonnieB
@@05DonnieB North Korea is communist country they take sports seriously
Rest 3 counties have black athletes who are very good in track and field events
Yes they have,better facility in track and field,that's why they won, and cuba per capita is also good than india@@05DonnieB
The guy who spoke first sends his kid to Cricket coaching and not Badminton coaching, not tennis coaching, not football coaching, not athletics coaching, not boxing coaching. That answers the question we are discussing.
The only person who made sense was the lady who spoke last. The others were just showing off their arrogance and have no idea about the sacrifices a sportsman has to make to compete at the Olympics. You train 4 years of your life, sacrifice your childhood and youth for that moment and the margin of error is so thin. How many of these journos will allow their children to make those sacrifices? India is still a country of the poor, accept that before comparing it with Australia or the USA
Sports Today - you should ensure a debate where participants are not speaking over each other and then shouting. This is just hard to watch.
truly
In India, people play for a job/government job and that's the reality.
How many times india today cover hockey, badminton in year ?
You media people should cover this non-cricket games also.
Cricket tak
So that's why We r wining medals in Olympic 😂😂
Yes India didn't won because India today didn't cover other games.why would they cover mediocrity?war torn countries do better than India,even Afghanistani c team with some players not having pro contract defeated Indian football team which are highly paid in comparison to other South Asian nations,yet no questions were asked.So this prove their point that we reward mediocrity.when someone criticises athletes people say why you are criticising them,by this logic no one should question govt and beurocrats.the day athletes would be held accountable and bronze would be considered as defeat instead of victory India will win
Very poor quality discussion.....not conclusive without coherence of thought
Even in college group discussions, there is a flow and a conclusion; however, here, it felt more like a series of self-presentations about their knowledge of the Olympics, lacking the depth of good journalism and meaningful discussion.
Would you allow your daughter who is a wrestler and let the WFI chief ruin your daughter's careers ! And none of your children play any of the sports because you are more than a middle class family ❤
Its a media only who celebrate cricket and give very kess importance to other sports
Other sports should earn that and generate more revenue and attract audience.Indian athletes get more than what they actually deserve
At first it's media duty to raise the voice of other sports other thn only cricket..thn only people will pick up playing other sports as profession...All media hypes are on cricket becoz in cricket their income is good naa selfish media..at least they should be selfless thn the real truth comes out...!!@@ankit-un2rd
Parents at early age don't promote sports but studies. We never encourage sports as a career in early age that's the difference
Uzbekistan won 10 gold
New zealand won 10 gold
Playing on their strengths
India needs to point out the strength and work upon them
Uzbekistan won 8 gold medal overall 13 medals with only 90 athlete. Now this is crazy
@@kunalnagarkoti4409Are they historically good at the Olympics or was it a first time thing?
Played on their strength they have done extremely well in wrestling, taekwondo,judo and boxing
@@SuperSonic-im3bblast decades We do better each Olympic. I am from Uzbekistan
@@SuperSonic-im3bb we focused just 6-7 sports. And we try our best this sports not many sports
Ye vikrant pure saal cricket cricket karta rhta hai abhi yaad aya isko baaki bhi sports hote hai , mediocre soch hai iski , mediocre lecture bnd kar
Now is only time when Sports tak actually becomes "Sports Tak". For rest of year its Cricket Tak
Gyan dena asan hai bro jake dekho sports tak par olympics ke videos ke views aur cricket ke videos ke views tumhe pta chal jayega galti unki nahi hmari hai.😊@@abhigyapranshu4791
Pak finished above us 😅.. Our politician has no vision they are corrupted.. Throw all the politicians out of sports federation..
Identify kids, not elite athletes..
Our PM wants to host 2036 Olympics..
We need at least 15 Golds to finish in top 10 & we won't even finish in top 20 in 2036..
Top 10 mai finish karna impossible hai bharat ke liye kyuki humlog traditional sports ke alawa baki ke sports khelte he nahi hai india mai jaise ki gymnastics, acquatics, judo, taekwondo, rowing, sailing, fencing, equestrian, baseball, softball, water polo etc
Top 40 pakka agar India host kiye tu
Tu ja Bhai khelne 😂 . BC
Pak finished above because of one athlete and his freakish performance. They don't have any system in place. Just one guy's hard work.
@@kunalnagarkoti4409
Enough with this bs about throwing politicians out of sports organisation, BCCI, the most efficient sporting body in the country is managed by politicians from start, they have built a ridiculously good & effective cricketing infrastructure around the country, upto every smaller states.
Most of the the other sport bodies are ran by formers players compared to BCCI. Former players who don't no sh*t about management shouldn't be the one running the organisations.
Almost entire Southern India is so much educated, aware and well-to-do and yet couldn't produce even 1 medal... that's even more shocking.
Have u heard of Mr. Shreejesh, indian hockey goal keeper
@@SaralSaadheSoppeName me 10 more like Northie Haryana😊
@@SaralSaadheSoppe He played with more than a dozen others to win one medal such is the nature of the sport he participates in. Where are the individual medals?
saar saar we are educated saar we are meat eaters...🤣🤣🤣
@@SaralSaadheSoppe when it comes to sports, it's Haryana and Punjab. With due respect to Sreejesh, all those athletes from South have got us 0😂
Cricket is successful because the BCCI manages it professionally and it doesn't tolerate mediocrity. Yes, politics and corruption happen in BCCI - but they deliver the results. This is the difference between Cricket and the rest of the sports in India.
You are right about BCCI but what goes in its favour is that it's an independent autonomous body, free from government influence...That is why it's doing well despite corruption. our Government tends to ruin everything good after their unneedful interference
One think i don't understand that one side we talk about competing with china and the other side we celebrate winning 6 medals when china winning 91 medals
In a region the common discourse has idioms like "kheloge kudoge toh ho jaoge kharab, padhoge likhoge toh banoge nawab"
How can we expect to win medals.
And let's look at bigger picture, the underlying fact is that after every national achievement done by an individual, we go crazy on a social media frenzy and create demigods out of individuals.
We, as a nation need to look into our common discourse, which celebrates mediocrity and hinders excellence.
Remember these medals are not because of system but despite the system.
It's a shame that one sixth of humanity doesn't has a solid sporting culture despite having a great history.
Mediocrity is in the blood of this country when Reservation is more important than Skill and Talent😂
Boria muzumdar is way better than vikrant gupta in terms of overall sports knowledge.
If vikrant gupta does 350 days of cricket tak live, he doesnt have a right to even say a word ahy we cant win gold.
Doing cricket cricket before and after Olympics and then start debating about why India do not win medals, i urge people to follow other sports channels such as NNIS, Pahadi brothers etc who talk about sports other than cricket
A country of 1.40 billion and only 6 medals that too without gold is something to think about seriously
We should have caste based reservations in sports to give equal opportunities to every caste.
Sounds like a plan, as long as there is castesim
Uzbekistan won 8 gold medals🏅🏅
Kenya has 4 gold medals even Ethiopia has 1 gold and 3 silver medals and even Uganda has 1 gold medal
Unrealistic and irrelevant comparison
They call them self news ancors . They are so disrespectful of each other by not allowing other to speak
The discussion was so amateur and childish. And there were way too many panelists. And what is Vikrant doing here? He hardly knows anything about cricket forget about athletics.
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This discussion is the perfect example why we don't do well. The panelist are all trying to talk over the others. The modarator is almost silent, the discipline is lacking.
It is hard to understand who is saying what.
I shall borrow a quote "We don't listen as much as we hear"
This debate doesn't pickup the most essential part of the sport development.
"How many sports have we tried as a child or teenager?"
This question answers the whole debate.. it's the school and school system.
China is a bad example we have to take example of USA. How they have integrated sports with education.
China is the best example bcoz they hv similar population as ours , US is a unique case where there is less competition and ppl themselves choose what they wish to do and there r enough opportunities to pursue it , unlike India
Do this type of discussion for 4 continuous years. Question federation, gov policies everything. Unless fans and media create pressure on fed and gov both will do nothing. Why can't sports tak have a dedicated discussion for other sports twice every week. Media should also change their approach
guys, why are you talking as if we got 30 bronze medals..we have ONLY got 5 bronze medals! It's not like we got Bronze is many events. Cricket is destroying other sports, and that's the fact. Unless you divert attention from Cricket to other sports, no youngster will have interest or incentive to play other sports
I blame cricket for india not winning a Olympic gold.
Infrastructure plays a part, yes. But what about the sporting culture in the country? Are we willing to follow these athletes over the next 4 years? Did Vikrant Gupta ever do a non-cricket show on Sports Tak?
A top cricketer farts, and they do a 20-min segment explaining the gaseous state of the emission on that channel. Did they do any segments on Hockey or Badminton or Shooting or Wrestling in all this while??
How many of the panelists are sports people who can point out the right reason ?
Excellent Debate. DO NOT reward Mediocrity.
Wow.. How can a tv debate panel fight even for such a topic.. is this some kind of recipe of success in TV debate??
Will all of you follow other sports in next 4 years have you reported french open? Have you reported thomas cup? Have you reported asian games 2022?? No, so you donot have right to debate on this topic .
vikrant gupta doesnt know anything except cricket
Who told u he knows cricket?
He is farzi sports journalist from WhatsApp university.
Seriously
Why bring a cricket guy in this debate?
Preeti Choudhary like her mentor Rajdeep Sardesai brings politics into everything. For gods sake preeti this is not a political debate . Shame on you
she has a fkin point Other states such as TN,MP need a coherent sports policy
‘Athletes’ in cricket… what a joke
Media is to blame. Because media is focusing on only cricket. There are better sponsors only in cricket. Sorry
Each sports federation will have their own world tournament on an annual basis and if you are on the podium for those tournaments (like the indian shooters and the javelin thrower), then you are considered one of the favorites. If you are lower ranking in these tournaments but just did enough to qualify for the Olympics for your nation, congrats and enjoy the Olympic experience. Unless you get very lucky, you will not hit the podium. I don't know how many of India's 100+ athletes are favorites (based on their achievements in the annual tournament of their sports). People can usually predict the medals of each country based on these annual tournaments. Simone Biles got gold in the 2023 world championships for all around. Gold for all around gymnastics in the Olympics. Quan Hongchan got gold in the 2024 world championship for 10 m platform diving. gold in Olympics. please see Indian athlete's progress in these tournaments and support them with resources to win in those tournaments. Do not only look every 4 years in the Olympics and expect a 12th place finisher in the annual tournaments to medal.
They talked very less about what policy should be made in longer term, that can bring the raw talent.
You give them financial security and facilities from early age, I bet, India will bring medals in next 10 years.
We reward mediocrity in journalism. Bootlickers are at top level in journalism. We cant do anything about it😂😂😂.
Regular discussion must take place on Olympic sports please keep doing that dont switch for cricket next 4 years and come back again with this
who is this lady on the right?🤣🤣🤣 Pointing fingers like a she's a bharat ratna awardee😆😆first we treat our wrestlers badly and then blame the athletes as if they're not trying their best.😂
OK don't blame Wrestlers but what about the others
@@snehalkhatri9357 They have won medals, as much talent we have, we have got it, only Neeraj Chopra was in top 3 ranking, hockey team was 7th still won medal, lakshya ranked 22 came 4th. 4th place happens, we should find more talented people. Like in cricket, if one player doesn't perform, we replace them, don't blame them. Medal means much more to them than to us so they work hard but if you have enough people at the top, like china has 5 players in top 10 etc, then you'll win gold. If you expect 20th ranked player to win a medal, you're expecting too much.
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What else do you expect from a nation which treats one sport as religion, and its players are as Gods. These are the same channels and same anchors which only wake up to other sports once in 4 years and for the rest of the time dish out cricket news for more eye balls! And now the hypocrites are discussing why do we not have enough medals in Olympics. We need to take bold decisions and all the money should not go to one sport (look at what players got for winning T20 WC), the monopoly of BCCI should end, we people should start celebrating other sports and downplay cricket and the channels must not cover only cricket (irrespective of eyeballs), only then we can have a culture of sports in this country. If cricketers keep getting so much money (thanks to IPL) every child will want to become a cricketer, why will they embrace other sport? Only after these hard steps are taken, we can then start working on the points these people are discussing. What they are discussing is only software, which cannot work without a robust operating system. Throughout this discussion they are conveniently ignoring the operating system, and the entire discussion is on software!
...downplay cricket. lol
200 saal b yahi discussion chalta rahega ..in short India ka kuch nahi hosakta...
Khud kya ukhada jindegi me dusro ko Gyan de raha hai kuch Nehi ho sakta.....tu jindegi mai kuch Nehi kar saka to Gyan mat chod.....achanak se koyi medal Nehi Lata china, Australia, USA ka sports budget dekh jakar yaha hockey k players ka khana toilet mai banta hai uske bad bhi wo medals lekar arahe hai..... infrastructure bana ne ko bol govt ko phir cricket ki tarah criticism karenge medal Nehi jita
@@anonymous_0731Ethiopia Uganda ka haal humse bhi bura hai even Kenya ka bhi shooting me inko Croatia bheja gya tha archery me 40cr ka budget lgaya tha boxing me high budget tha ek me bhi gold nhi aaya
All these journalist have not even conducted a single show in 4 year for paris Olympics and now suddenly they are talking about it because it can got some views. Do these journalist and channel cover other sports for 4 year continuously like they cover cricket
Look these clowns who themselves will cover cricket for 364 days and at time of Olympic they become sport journalist.
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So that's why ind is not wining Medals
Preeti is bang on. fire in the belly doesn't feed the family
Shameful discussion. No concrete outcome or insights for anyone. Just waffling some English words shows how chaotic everything is in this country.
The immediate fix is that Indian government provides scholarships to Indian high school kids to USA colleges to train in sports. After all, the IIT JEE topper is immediately admitted to MIT on full scholarship.
Instead of sending Athletes to US we should built our own ecosystem, I know it is difficult but not impossible.
@@JaiPrakash-gc6ji Building own ecosystem may take 5 or more years. I spoke of immediate need, like send today. In U.S. UCLA, UC berkeley and many other universities have world-class athletes. Such systems take long to setup. In India, how do you get to train with top U.S. atheletes
@Vikrant you keep on bringing example of Cricket again and again ...please explain to the viewers what India has done in cricket ..won only 4 world cups in last 50 years ..do we not celebrate mediocrity in India for Cricket ..problem is we as a nation is so obsesses with Cricket that we neglect other sports ..and reality is India is not at all good in Cricket ..the amount of focus we give to Cricket we should have won 10 world cups by now ..look at Australia they won the world cup max times and is no 4 in medal list in Olympic ..the problem is cricket and unless and untill IPL is stopped situation will remain same
Fire in the belly win medals - Mr Gaurav Sawant.😂😂
Bro all 10000 athletes go with fire in the belly, ,but those who have worked for their goals and with the ability to perform under immense pressure win medals.
These jokers😂
We need more people like Vikrant & Akshita, Gaurav who have guts to call a Spade a Spade, DO NOT reward Mediocrity. Players have excellent facilities yet they fail.
This is the main problem with Indian audience. Not willing to accept defeat or failure😅😅😅
we win cricket world cups after years where only 4-5 countries are capable of winning...and you blame players who are exposed to so much of attention and pressure and media once in 4 years?
That 4-5 countries 3rd class sport is cricket where no feeling of nationalism is there for that sport
Indian players lack speed and stamina look what happened in semi final against Germany
@@ivaerz4977 bro if you would have followed Hockey India were playing that one match without amit rohidas....who is the most important defender... specially during corners....and India did concede 2 goals in penalty.Else india were the better team .They deserved gold this time.Nothing like stamina is the issue....they have won medals two consecutive times this shows how good they are
Where were you when these athletes especially the wrestlers were protesting against the sexual assault cases! And if no support for them you will get this 😢
Only one thing india had to do for improving sports that focus on third tier cities and develop sports complex because maximum athletes come from these cities and they don't have any resources in their cities and introduce inter school competition strictly.
Guys accept it. Our fitness is no where close to an elite athlete.
We are used to celebrate mediocrity in all fields....government, roads. Railway, cleanliness, social morality
Please discuss what's happening in our schools we're most teachers don't understand sports
Physical education teachers in schools are the biggest bane of indian sports they are outdated
India needs to win hockey gold medals, its what they are good at
The only offensive Indian problem of Indian sports till now is CRICKET 🏏🏏😂😂
And every youth who is commenting on the video along with Vikrant also know it better than me as he is also a part of the cricket media projection....but still we will deny as IPL,world cup is coming.... That's money baby 🤑🤑
I blame virat kohli for deepika kumari's failure.
Indian body and diet isn't meant for competing in the highest level.
The panel itself is quite mediocre, to say the least.
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Uzbekistan got 8 Golds, with 37 million population & lower per capita than India! It's crazy!!
I was so disappointed with Amit Panghal's early exit. He had the easiest draw possible to go for a medal by defeating a Zambian and Cabo Verde boxers.
Vikrant Gupta not sports editor he only knows cricket.and always talked about cricket
😇😇😇We have definitely improved because many players were lost in Qf, Sf and even Finals. We need to convert this hardwork into medals now....keep going. We have not forget 107 medals in Asian Games. Olympic is a higher stage which needs higher nerves and preparation...Work on it...💪🏅👏🚩🚩🚩
Talk about the amount money going to Gujrat and other states, compare the numbers and it is almost six times more than any other state!
vikrant is a frauud journalist
How .many parents take their children to watch sports in their district maidens?they take them to malls
our journalists too are so mediocre. There is no in depth analysis. This is such a generic analysis.
Biggest disappointment came from as an example from Satvik & Chirag. They not even got past quarter finals. That's bad performance.
Sneha's question is the Answer to the Olympics failure of India. Our parents and society doesn't support a kid who wants build a career in sports
Our cities are too messy and crowded. No top athletes will come from there. Nobody can master a sport in a big city by playing 8 hours in a day. T1 cities cannot nurture excellence. We will get athletes from T2 and T3 cities and villages. Focus on them and provide facilities there.
Sports federations, Modi's sports ministry as well as athletes are responsible and should be held accountable. Collective effort for this poor show.
Love to hear Vikrant sir
Fire in the belly: Deepika Kumari never had that ..she herself admits that she cracks under the pressure of winning medals for the country. She cannot pick up even half of the confidence that those South Korean girls have in archery
We need to move beyond celebrating the medals. The authorities need to invest in the journey of players. Support them, polish them. Then celebration will have a true meaning.
The recent example of PT Usha washing her hands off the weight issue with Vinesh Phogat is a case in point.
First of all We need to start participating in all sports not just 15 ... There are so many medals at stake in swinning , gymnastics , diving
I agree with the Caption "Are We Stuck in Bronze Age" ??
vikrantulla type karte hee ulti ka emoji aataai type list mein, just imagine even phone knows it 🤯🥵
vikrantulla 🤮
see it's proven now 🤮🤯🥵
Olympic sports in India will first have to fetch medals and then expect Government and Corporate patronage.We dont have a big first generation of pure Olympic medal winners yet. So money will follow success, unfortunately,not precede it.I guess this reflects our historic focus in Olympic sports and level of seriousness until very recently. 😮
Until we have 1000*100 square yards concrete schools without playgrounds and gave single game period taken over by Maths teacher to finish their syllabus….We will keep performing badly at the Olympics👀