The Gladiator must be pretty exciting for you. Everything that can be done to a wrangler, has already been done. The Gladiator is a blank canvas waiting to be painted. I can’t wait to see all the builds.
Great video Brad as always. I’ve got an ‘89 YJ in the garage that will go to my kid. I’m intrigued & impressed by the Gladiator so far. My plan is to pickup a slightly used model with the diesel power train in a couple of years. In the mean time I look forward to watching some of the first Gladiator builds, including yours maybe!
Agree 100%. Soon as some CPO rigs hit the market, I will be all over it. Will rock the JKU and skip the JL for now. As far as aftermarket, from what I understand the Gladiator is essentially a JL from the cab forward, meaning parts like suspension should fit day one.
Funny, my wifes on the same fence. My 04 tj sport, runs great , needs front end work, no problem w/taking care of that , be done by june, needs sticker then. But w/200k im not complaining at all. Her 14 jku, 147k, oh-no !! Parts replaced on jku, lmao, set of rear pads and tires. Thats it. It is a 6speed manual. Its been awfully good to us from the start. Dealer was closing its doors to move up the road to thier new lot. They really wanted that inventory gone, $26,500. So 6 years later ? Really considering top end. We can go get one but if were gonna sign again, better be a red rubinator. Which i dont think we'll be getting a good deal at all this time ? Too many ppl are gonna go after these, been a long time coming
growing up as a kid my dream vehicle was always a Jeep. Took me until I was 40 to get. Had her for almost 10 years now. Wouldn't trade her for the world. As NICE as the gladiator is.. I'll stick with my Blue baby.
Grew up wheeling in the desert in pickup trucks, only to have to eat a ton of dirt while unpacking everything and setting up camp. Then I bought my first poorunner, now Wrangler JLU. I like the Gladiator, but in my opinion for desert offroading, the more gear you can keep inside out of the dirt the better at the end of the day.
Had a 97 tj, 5 spd I6. Mild 2.5” lift 33/12.50’s, winch, onboard air and a few other mild upgrades. Was built as a weekend warrior for the snow only..... (4-5 months per year in the mountains) used to go every weekend for that time frame. Got to where friends didn’t go anymore, So it sat. Neighbor made me an offer and I sadly (8+ yrs of memories) accepted. He bought it for his son who just got his license. My daily driver is a dclb Tacoma. I have a spare set of tires and beadlock wheels (for the snow only) , mobtown front receiver and cradled winch. I have to have a double cab, I also must have a bed. JEEP!.... just filled Checked ALL my boxes. The Tacoma trd is an awesome vehicle with unbelievable resale value, but just to fit 33’s for (in my opinion) actual off-roading, articulating... is a job, cmc and all that. Jeep, thank you! And here I come! 👍🏻
Can't wait to see what the aftermarket community will come up with for the Jeep Gladiator over the next 2 years. Evo Manufacturing is building up a Gladiator as we speak. Cant wait to see it!
Good video Brad. I have a 2016 Chevy Colorado Z71, with the six foot box, diesel engine and can tow 7700 lbs. I love it and it sips fuel. When I'm not towing or loaded down with a lot of junk, I can get 34 MPH on the highway. I never expected to do "off-roading" with that vehicle other than drive through farm fields, hills, and snow. It is not for rock crawling. Granted, if Jeep made the Gladiator back in 2016 when I needed the truck, I would have probably bought it. The best thing about Jeeps are they are the last vehicle made with the notion that average to above average wrench heads can actually do stuff to the vehicle. There is no way I would want to start customizing my truck for fear of breaking it. My truck is for working on the farm while my Jeep is fun. By all means and even if you decide to get the Gladiator, keep your Rubicon. It is a classic.
Watched about two dozen or so Gladiator videos, but this is the one I’ve been waiting for. I’ve been curious about your thoughts on Sport S vs Rubicon. Thanks, Brad
Good information Brad, we share the same mindset, I would consider the Sport S and add the upgrades I desire, the front and rear Dana 44 axles is very persuasive .
I will wait a year or two as others have said, but I love imagining all of the after market stuff that could fill that bed. For my kind of travel a maxed out Gladiator would be AWESOME! Would love to have a photography platform over the cab and fold out tent over the bed, and like you said, you could haul all that extra fuel. (I am retired Navy 21 years, HMC(SW) ).
I got the Gladiator Sport Max tow! Love love love it! The 3.6 has got more power than you think and the upgrades are limitless!!! I literally cannot make my mind up! I have been in contact with almost everybody on lift kits for the truck and boy it’s not easy to find anything that puts it back to factory spec!! Rock Krawler DID! A Quad rated coil and tuned in shocks will accommodate 37s with a smoother then factory ride! AND GIVE YOU BACK TOW Capabilities now I am looking into 513 gears and lockers! Going with air lockers and a compressor..... lol see what I mean you can keep building and building
I will be buying one ☝️ but........sadly I need to wait until I pay off my 2016 Sahara unlimited. I still have a few more things I would like to upgrade to get it where I want it first as well. I’ve been told I have the patience of a saint......I’m going to need it here for sure! The Gladiator would make for an amazing addition in my Garage!! Also I agree if you’re planning on serious upgrades. There is no need to go for a Rubicon, especially if half the things your paying top dollar for will be on a Jeep site, or Facebook dirt cheap to clear out your garage! Keep up the great videos!
RobDTom pros and cons to the longer wheel base. Climbing is easier. Climbing over is harder lol thing is you can lift the truck to make up for the brake over angle. You can’t stretch a wheel base as easy or cheaply.
Every once in a while a new vehicle hits the roads that is a real game changer. I think that just maybe the Jeep Gladiator may be that vehicle. What other mid sized pickup could compete with it right off the showroom floor?
guy proulx you are correct, but let's not compare apples and oranges. I didn't say anything about it being the best off roader. What I said was, "What other mid sized pickup could compete with it right off the showroom floor?" So my original point still stands.
I’m with you Brad, get the Sport S and HD tow package...! A medium lift with 37’s or 38’s, and outfit with some overlanding gear... Would be very nice addition, and I too am pondering the same question !
Ever since the buzz started on the Gladiator, I’ve had the itch to get back into overlanding now that the kids are older. After I watched a couple videos on the wayalife channel of the EVO Gladiator build, I’m ordering one next spring and building the exact same rig. Mel picked up a Sport, totally rebuilt the suspension and axles, put on 40’s, bumpers, skids, and a RTT for just $10k more than a loaded rubicon. For me, it’s a no brainer. My buddy and I can do all the work and keep it at the same price. Though I might take advantage of my buddies shop, and let them tackle some of it, just to get me on the road quicker. Hope to see you on the trails, and maybe hit some adventures with y’all.
outstanding thoughts here. i have gone back and forth on the gladiator and i decided i'm gonna buy one, and i'll make it a rubicon and just do a basic lift to get my 37s back on it. run it for a few years and see what the aftermarket does for 40s. "40s by 40" might be a thing. haha
It cost about $10,000+ starting to get a IFS up to 17 inches of wheel travel. After that cost goes up exponential for durability as you enter custom fabricated territory. And thats just the front end.
Hey I just subscribed, a great video. Great discussion and reasoning put into the video. The Jeep does surprise me, pricing a little better then expected. If I was in the market for a mid size it would be the Jeep, but for now I love my 17 Grand Cherokee and my Ram 1500. FICA is killing it, nothing compares for "fun in rigs".
Brad, I appreciate all the thought and time you put into everything you do. I love watching your videos and I always learn something. I also really like your video production. They are very enjoyable and easy to follow along with. In regards to this video and the Gladiator...This seems like a no brainer for your needs. I say go for it and still keep your JK.
I have a sport and have been building it up. It’s extremely capable off road especially in The SoCal desert and mountains and I love it but in the future I’ll be going the rubicon route. I have quick disconnects but it’s a hassle and have needed lockers a few times. I’m getting the gladiator sport S (because I miss power windows and door locks) with the tow package. 4.10 gearing and wider axles would be nice out of the box. Great perspective! I’m sold! 😎
I've got the same thoughts. the Sport S with max tow package. The only thing the rubicon package offers me is lockers and a swaybar disconnect. I can regear and add lockers to the Sport S, and add some manual quick disconnects.. and save a *ton* of money over the rubicon. The only two things that I'd *like* and wouldn't have, would be the front facing trail cam, and the proximity based keyless entry. I suspect the trail cam will be an aftermarket thing in short order.. so really, only missing 1 convenience feature... and again, saving thousands.
I like you're take on the new truck , as you said it has overland potential . With a 4 Wheel camper on the back may the slide on camper . I'm a old Land Cruiser kind of a guy but Jeeps are hard to put down. Thanks
I hope a company makes either a hard or soft top that extends over the cab to the end of the bed. make one big interior and a roof rack over the whole thing.
Since the RubiCON has a light carrying cap (1180 lbs) BUT it has a decent towing capacity (7000 lbs), you could hitch a 3500 lb trailer (easy to find decent ones) and put the bulk of your load in that trailer. Then park the trailer and take what you need in the ROOB.
AFugax Another way of looking at it is as a starting platform the JK/L is the ultimate RockCrawler; the JK/LU is the ultimate RockLander; the Gladiator is the ultimate serious trails OverLander.
Can’t wait for the videos on the gladiator, I have a feeling that you’re going to buy one lol, and my buddy Ray is going to ride in the jeep Easter run also, would be awesome if you two meet so keep an eye out for a red 74 Cj5!
I have been on the fence for a new overland vehicle for a while. I agree....the sport with the tow package might make me stray away from buying a Tacoma? (I used to build the Tacoma in the 90s when the factory was in California) yes....I might leave Toyota!!!
I like the way you're thinking... Probably give it a couple years to work the bugs out and allow the aftermarket suppliers to catch up but it will definitely be on my watch list.
I just bought a leftover JK at a great price. But I’ll tell you it is tempting looking at the gladiator. I read a few other reviews in the Major car magazines just telling you what a fantastic alternative it is and size trucks. I think jeep hit a homerun here and they’re going to sell these by the boatload. I’m going to have to wait for a few years but I think gladiator is in my future LOL
If you're a hunter...The Gladiator might be the best vehicle made. Much more off road capable than other trucks, but it has a bed for deer and elk etc...
Brad you are in the Jeep life, business. Trade-in the wife's Jeep! You owe it to the channel and to yourself. For people NOT doing over-land and off-road, get a Ranger, Tacoma, Ridgeline, Frontier, or Colorado, save $5k to $10k.
The Toyota is king when it comes to overlanding. 200 series, 80 series, hilux, Tacoma etc. Toyota has been doing it for far longer. Look at any Australian channel.
@@Th3unknownuser111 , you could be right. I do watch 4WD-Action channel, and they seem to love the Toyota Land Cruiser. I don't see them using the Tacoma much.
I ordered my Wrangler Rubicon before the Gladiator was revealed, got it on February 1. Now that I have seen the Gladiator I kind of wish I had waited a few months. But I love my Wrangler so far and have no plans to do any swap.
Rubitrux in Boone NC has been building them for years....used the same AEV kit that Jeep is using since Jeep bough the rights from AEV for it. I wasn’t really as excited about the trucks since I’ve been seeing them for years. But the price is what’s going to be the killer. At Rubitrux a Rubicon 4 door truck with a 6.4 hemi is 110-125k
Yes the best is sport S model . That way you build it your way. I'm getting gater green when it comes out. Putting new bumpers ,winch ,etc on it. It will be a year or so but yep. The only way to go topless
Happy with my JL. Could have bought a house for what's invested. And not done...... I complain about length already. That price for that special edition is similar to my diesel 2017 F-350 4x4. Neat vehicle. Just not not for me right now. I will enjoy watching what people do. Big axles and 40' will be needed on that thing. Thanks for your input. Always fun. OllllllO
Please do, I have been eyeing the Gladiator and would love to see how you make out with it! If it will survive your adventures and mods I can see it doing well for me.
I would get it. The gladiator is awesome uts combining both worlds. Idk if u like diesel or not but they're gonna be releasing a diesel version later. That would be the one to get in my opinion.
I'm waiting for the Gobi Gladiator with turbo-diesel to build up an overland rig. That turbo and 400+ lbft of torque are going to come in handy for the additional weight of a properly set up overlanding build and for operating it in the Rockies and high Sierras. Alaska/Arctic Circle are on my bucket list, too! Maybe I'll get to join up with you on that trip, Brad!!!👍🇺🇸
The diesel will have more torque, but less towing. The front end design and radiator is insufficient to cool the diesel while towing. If you plan to build the Gladiator up, the extra weight might be too much for the cooling system on the diesel package.
I think the Rubicon would be perfect for me. It has everything I want already. I don’t want to go bigger then 35. Maybe 37 on a second set of rims. I am trying to decide between a JL or a Gladiator. Needs to be a daily driver and has to fit 3 kids in car seats. With enough room for groceries and a stroller. Yet be able to do some trail riding. I figured having then locking diff and disconnected sway bar would make up for not runnin 40s with a 6 inch lift lol
Great video Brad, Very good thoughts starting out with the base model and building up that one. I'm having fun in my old school CJ7 1978 Base model Love the channel
The only downside is the Dana axles on the Sport S only allow you to have an automatic and substitute out the manual. At least according to their online builder.
My wife and i are planning our 25th Anniversary trip to Alaska. It is going to be easier getting there than we ever thought possible. Easy enough we are building our 03 TJ to make this trip in.
I follow another channel called Patriot Campers from Australia and they make a perfect replacement for the Gladiator box great for overland trips. Last year they came out to California to try out the Jeep Wranglers for the first time they loved them. Check their channel great company they have. Keep up the awesome videos Brad 👋
I too am wondering if getting a sport model, then upgrading it over time is the way to go. Jumping into a Rubicon model is a bit cost prohibitive at the moment.
Gladiator Gang OMG I saw that blue in San Diego last month for the first time in person, it is INCREDIBLE!!! My wife is tired of hearing about “this amazing blue.”
I agree the Sport S with the tow package is the hot set-up! Yup a Sport S with tow package and the Dana 44's as you mentioned, will have the factory heavy duty equipment already there. All you need is a small lift, wheels/tires, and a rear locker and you're pretty much set for some serious overlanding/trail work. I don't think of the Gladiator as a rock crawler, but it'll make a very capable trail rig! I'm also thinking it's time for something exactly like that. So, I may be right behind you on the customer list at Jeep! I'd take one in Mojito Green, unfortunately that color is not available in the Gladiator!
You do make a good point on the sport-s, but if you're going to add lockers and suspension and different wheels and tires, then the Rubicon still is a better option. The money spent on aftermarket is going to be relatively close to the upgrade in model. My choice is the Rubicon, which I will order once I sell my Raptor.
I thought the same thing about the Sport vs Rubicon. And EVO Mfg is even building a Sport that they will race in Stock class. It certainly is a very capable and will be well supported vs the other brands.
I've been watching the EVO build with Eddie on Wayalife's channel. Really good stuff and looking forward to seeing all these guys in Moab in less than 2 week.
Lol did the same. Put deposit really wanted manual transmission but only available with auto. The dealer said the pushed back the non launch edition preorder back. As of right now i’m just excited about truck-bed and finally getting a rubicon. I also submitted video for contest. My dad has stage 4 mesothelioma cancer. That would be amazing to win and enjoy some time with my dad. Love the channel keep up awesome work!
Thank you for sharing your thougts about the Gladiator. I'm thinking about selling my beloved 94 YJ (offroad/topless fun) and 2014 KL (family vehicle) in order to afford a new JT, as soon as it will be available in Europe in 2020. I owned a slightly lifted JKU Sahara (full&half doors) before as our one & only family, fun & offroad vehicle, and enjoyed it very much. Now that the Kids are growing older (5 & 3), we might need to haul more sport equipment for weekend & vacation trips to the alps & mediterranean sea the next years And I still would like going topless & offroad with the (slightly modified) JT... I like the JLU as well, but IT just seems too similar to my old JKU to justify the buying price tag compared to the JKU. But the JTs Truck bed really gives much more utility while keeping all the advantages of a Wrangler. It would just mean "more jeep vehicle" to me... Hmm, I still have a year to make up my mind...what would you recommend?
All New Vehicles Prices Are Way Out Of Sight To Me! A Used Jeep Or Ford Or Ever A Chevy Are At Least Semi Affordable! But You Are Hyped To Get One You're Gonna Get One! Good Luck!
Wow! The truck is 31" longer than an Unlimited? That stat really caught me off guard. Great potential for these though, and I'm excited to see what people end up doing with them. My old girl still needs some time to get paid off, but man would I love one. That orange! 😯 Great video as always, Brad.
40's on a Gladiator with a 6" lift will be the way to go...should get you past most of the length/departure angle issues. Definitely get the Sport S with the tow package...you get the axles without paying Rubicon prices. You will be swapping diff gears anyway, drop lockers in at that point. I always laugh at the Rubi guys that lift their rigs to get bigger tires...there goes 4-6 grand in stock tires/wheels/suspension you just financed, lol.
The Gladiator must be pretty exciting for you. Everything that can be done to a wrangler, has already been done. The Gladiator is a blank canvas waiting to be painted. I can’t wait to see all the builds.
Get the Gladiator, Brad! Channel growth and sponsorship potential will be HUGE. 😉
Especially since Jeep has been emailing him already.
Just dunt paint it pink, please!
Me too! Write it off as a business expense! Though we already know now what choice you made :)
Great video Brad as always. I’ve got an ‘89 YJ in the garage that will go to my kid. I’m intrigued & impressed by the Gladiator so far. My plan is to pickup a slightly used model with the diesel power train in a couple of years. In the mean time I look forward to watching some of the first Gladiator builds, including yours maybe!
Already have one on order. Can’t wait. I’ll be posting lots of videos when it arrives. Get one!!!
Gonna wait at least a year or two. I’m content with the JKU. But it’s on the radar as an addition steed in the stable.
Agree 100%. Soon as some CPO rigs hit the market, I will be all over it. Will rock the JKU and skip the JL for now. As far as aftermarket, from what I understand the Gladiator is essentially a JL from the cab forward, meaning parts like suspension should fit day one.
Funny, my wifes on the same fence. My 04 tj sport, runs great , needs front end work, no problem w/taking care of that , be done by june, needs sticker then. But w/200k im not complaining at all.
Her 14 jku, 147k, oh-no !!
Parts replaced on jku, lmao, set of rear pads and tires. Thats it. It is a 6speed manual. Its been awfully good to us from the start. Dealer was closing its doors to move up the road to thier new lot. They really wanted that inventory gone, $26,500.
So 6 years later ? Really considering top end. We can go get one but if were gonna sign again, better be a red rubinator.
Which i dont think we'll be getting a good deal at all this time ? Too many ppl are gonna go after these, been a long time coming
growing up as a kid my dream vehicle was always a Jeep. Took me until I was 40 to get. Had her for almost 10 years now. Wouldn't trade her for the world. As NICE as the gladiator is.. I'll stick with my Blue baby.
Grew up wheeling in the desert in pickup trucks, only to have to eat a ton of dirt while unpacking everything and setting up camp. Then I bought my first poorunner, now Wrangler JLU. I like the Gladiator, but in my opinion for desert offroading, the more gear you can keep inside out of the dirt the better at the end of the day.
Had a 97 tj, 5 spd I6. Mild 2.5” lift 33/12.50’s, winch, onboard air and a few other mild upgrades. Was built as a weekend warrior for the snow only..... (4-5 months per year in the mountains) used to go every weekend for that time frame. Got to where friends didn’t go anymore, So it sat. Neighbor made me an offer and I sadly (8+ yrs of memories) accepted. He bought it for his son who just got his license. My daily driver is a dclb Tacoma. I have a spare set of tires and beadlock wheels (for the snow only) , mobtown front receiver and cradled winch. I have to have a double cab, I also must have a bed. JEEP!.... just filled Checked ALL my boxes. The Tacoma trd is an awesome vehicle with unbelievable resale value, but just to fit 33’s for (in my opinion) actual off-roading, articulating... is a job, cmc and all that. Jeep, thank you! And here I come! 👍🏻
A troopy/hardshell humvee style gladiator would make an awesome overland/expedition platform.
Do NOT get rid of the JK. But .... Seeing a gladiator all decked out in this channel would be nice.
Can't wait to see what the aftermarket community will come up with for the Jeep Gladiator over the next 2 years. Evo Manufacturing is building up a Gladiator as we speak. Cant wait to see it!
I'd like to note that you get Dana 44s even without the Max Tow Package. The difference is you get the wider track Dana 44s with that package.
Good video Brad. I have a 2016 Chevy Colorado Z71, with the six foot box, diesel engine and can tow 7700 lbs. I love it and it sips fuel. When I'm not towing or loaded down with a lot of junk, I can get 34 MPH on the highway. I never expected to do "off-roading" with that vehicle other than drive through farm fields, hills, and snow. It is not for rock crawling. Granted, if Jeep made the Gladiator back in 2016 when I needed the truck, I would have probably bought it. The best thing about Jeeps are they are the last vehicle made with the notion that average to above average wrench heads can actually do stuff to the vehicle. There is no way I would want to start customizing my truck for fear of breaking it. My truck is for working on the farm while my Jeep is fun. By all means and even if you decide to get the Gladiator, keep your Rubicon. It is a classic.
Watched about two dozen or so Gladiator videos, but this is the one I’ve been waiting for. I’ve been curious about your thoughts on Sport S vs Rubicon. Thanks, Brad
Good information Brad, we share the same mindset, I would consider the Sport S and add the upgrades I desire, the front and rear Dana 44 axles is very persuasive .
I’d wait for the potential diesel powertrain! Extended range and low end torque. Ultimate overland vehicle!
I will wait a year or two as others have said, but I love imagining all of the after market stuff that could fill that bed. For my kind of travel a maxed out Gladiator would be AWESOME! Would love to have a photography platform over the cab and fold out tent over the bed, and like you said, you could haul all that extra fuel. (I am retired Navy 21 years, HMC(SW) ).
Needs a HEMI or a high torque 6 cyl diesel. And needs a 2 door version with long bed
the Gladiator is getting the Ecodiesel
Top comes off. Doors come off. Windshield folds flat. Aftermarket. Iconic looks. Solid axles front and rear. All American off roader.
Great video Brad!! The gladiator will definitely be a game changer that's for sure. Thanks for sharing!!
I got the Gladiator Sport Max tow! Love love love it! The 3.6 has got more power than you think and the upgrades are limitless!!! I literally cannot make my mind up! I have been in contact with almost everybody on lift kits for the truck and boy it’s not easy to find anything that puts it back to factory spec!! Rock Krawler DID! A Quad rated coil and tuned in shocks will accommodate 37s with a smoother then factory ride! AND GIVE YOU BACK TOW Capabilities now I am looking into 513 gears and lockers! Going with air lockers and a compressor..... lol see what I mean you can keep building and building
Definitely worth a look when the v6 diesel comes to Australia. It'll be class leading here on Oz. Need that diesel because fuel is far between here.
How much are jeeps in Australia?
Gladiator + Alaska..... 😮😮🤔🤔🤔Sound like a great idea... thanks for the info..Congrats great video once again 👍👍👍
I will be buying one ☝️ but........sadly I need to wait until I pay off my 2016 Sahara unlimited. I still have a few more things I would like to upgrade to get it where I want it first as well.
I’ve been told I have the patience of a saint......I’m going to need it here for sure! The Gladiator would make for an amazing addition in my Garage!!
Also I agree if you’re planning on serious upgrades. There is no need to go for a Rubicon, especially if half the things your paying top dollar for will be on a Jeep site, or Facebook dirt cheap to clear out your garage!
Keep up the great videos!
Love all your videos Brad and another new addition to the family is always welcome to your viewer's. Can't wait to see what you'll do next. The 👍👍
The departure angle of the Gladiator isn't nearly as much of an issue as it's break over angle. Great video Brad, you really hit the pros and cons.
RobDTom pros and cons to the longer wheel base. Climbing is easier. Climbing over is harder lol thing is you can lift the truck to make up for the brake over angle. You can’t stretch a wheel base as easy or cheaply.
Every once in a while a new vehicle hits the roads that is a real game changer. I think that just maybe the Jeep Gladiator may be that vehicle. What other mid sized pickup could compete with it right off the showroom floor?
and take the top off and doors off. its literally so awesome
John Moon yes, there are only a very few things I enjoy more than driving my jeep when the top and doors are left at home.
guy proulx you are correct, but let's not compare apples and oranges. I didn't say anything about it being the best off roader. What I said was, "What other mid sized pickup could compete with it right off the showroom floor?" So my original point still stands.
I’m with you Brad, get the Sport S and HD tow package...! A medium lift with 37’s or 38’s, and outfit with some overlanding gear... Would be very nice addition, and I too am pondering the same question !
They are awesome. It had been very hard to not take and post pictures of them over the past year.
Ever since the buzz started on the Gladiator, I’ve had the itch to get back into overlanding now that the kids are older. After I watched a couple videos on the wayalife channel of the EVO Gladiator build, I’m ordering one next spring and building the exact same rig. Mel picked up a Sport, totally rebuilt the suspension and axles, put on 40’s, bumpers, skids, and a RTT for just $10k more than a loaded rubicon. For me, it’s a no brainer. My buddy and I can do all the work and keep it at the same price. Though I might take advantage of my buddies shop, and let them tackle some of it, just to get me on the road quicker. Hope to see you on the trails, and maybe hit some adventures with y’all.
In my humble opinion, I believe everyone needs a Wrangler and a Gladiator!
outstanding thoughts here. i have gone back and forth on the gladiator and i decided i'm gonna buy one, and i'll make it a rubicon and just do a basic lift to get my 37s back on it. run it for a few years and see what the aftermarket does for 40s. "40s by 40" might be a thing. haha
It cost about $10,000+ starting to get a IFS up to 17 inches of wheel travel. After that cost goes up exponential for durability as you enter custom fabricated territory. And thats just the front end.
Hey I just subscribed, a great video. Great discussion and reasoning put into the video. The Jeep does surprise me, pricing a little better then expected. If I was in the market for a mid size it would be the Jeep, but for now I love my 17 Grand Cherokee and my Ram 1500. FICA is killing it, nothing compares for "fun in rigs".
Yes, get one! In fact Jeep should give you one! If you don't get one I will be disappointed! Glad to hear your not getting rid of the Rubicon.
Awesome video that 2020 gladiator rubicon is realy off the hook bred that’s a realy great truck. Looking forward to getting one.
I like the idea of buying the Sport S with the 4:10 rear end, max trailer package, and then add items as one can afford it.
Brad, I appreciate all the thought and time you put into everything you do. I love watching your videos and I always learn something. I also really like your video production. They are very enjoyable and easy to follow along with.
In regards to this video and the Gladiator...This seems like a no brainer for your needs. I say go for it and still keep your JK.
Thanks, Brad. I've been kicking the idea around myself and you just helped me decide to get a Wrangler Rubicon.
I have a sport and have been building it up. It’s extremely capable off road especially in The SoCal desert and mountains and I love it but in the future I’ll be going the rubicon route. I have quick disconnects but it’s a hassle and have needed lockers a few times. I’m getting the gladiator sport S (because I miss power windows and door locks) with the tow package. 4.10 gearing and wider axles would be nice out of the box. Great perspective! I’m sold! 😎
I would do exactly what you said, get the s with the tow package and add the e lockers and 513 with 38s
Going to have to wait for a bit to be able to get my hands on one but certainly on the want list for me.
I've got the same thoughts. the Sport S with max tow package. The only thing the rubicon package offers me is lockers and a swaybar disconnect. I can regear and add lockers to the Sport S, and add some manual quick disconnects.. and save a *ton* of money over the rubicon. The only two things that I'd *like* and wouldn't have, would be the front facing trail cam, and the proximity based keyless entry. I suspect the trail cam will be an aftermarket thing in short order.. so really, only missing 1 convenience feature... and again, saving thousands.
I like you're take on the new truck , as you said it has overland potential . With a 4 Wheel camper on the back may the slide on camper . I'm a old Land Cruiser kind of a guy but Jeeps are hard to put down. Thanks
I hope a company makes either a hard or soft top that extends over the cab to the end of the bed. make one big interior and a roof rack over the whole thing.
Since the RubiCON has a light carrying cap (1180 lbs) BUT it has a decent towing capacity (7000 lbs), you could hitch a 3500 lb trailer (easy to find decent ones) and put the bulk of your load in that trailer. Then park the trailer and take what you need in the ROOB.
You wore the appropriate shirt -Rocklander... the Gladiator with mods will be the ultimate version of just that!
AFugax Another way of looking at it is as a starting platform the JK/L is the ultimate RockCrawler; the JK/LU is the ultimate RockLander; the Gladiator is the ultimate serious trails OverLander.
That’s exactly what I want to do Brad. Get the sport S and build it my way. Thank you for the video!
michael murray looking at the sport S with max tow pkg in order to get the wide Dana 44’s
I think the gladiator might be my first Jeep. Being able to tow and throw stuff in the back is very tempting for me.
Your Wrangler will fit on the Alaska Ferry System, and you avoid a lot of boring stretches on the Al-Can
I will be looking very hard at one as well. Great points on the max tow package!
Can’t wait for the videos on the gladiator, I have a feeling that you’re going to buy one lol, and my buddy Ray is going to ride in the jeep Easter run also, would be awesome if you two meet so keep an eye out for a red 74 Cj5!
Thanks, now my guilty feelings for dropping $18k on a slightly used FJ Cruiser are gone. It turns out I'm thrifty!
The Gladiator is an awesome rig and I agree with the Sport S suggestion that would be the way to go and the one to modify
All models come with Dana 44. The Max Tow and Rubicon come with a 1inch wider version.
Alaska sounds amazing! You, Marco, and a couple other guys should do a road trip up there and find trails to go on in each state as you drive through!
I have been on the fence for a new overland vehicle for a while. I agree....the sport with the tow package might make me stray away from buying a Tacoma? (I used to build the Tacoma in the 90s when the factory was in California) yes....I might leave Toyota!!!
I like the way you're thinking... Probably give it a couple years to work the bugs out and allow the aftermarket suppliers to catch up but it will definitely be on my watch list.
I just bought a leftover JK at a great price. But I’ll tell you it is tempting looking at the gladiator. I read a few other reviews in the Major car magazines just telling you what a fantastic alternative it is and size trucks. I think jeep hit a homerun here and they’re going to sell these by the boatload. I’m going to have to wait for a few years but I think gladiator is in my future LOL
Nice Brad. Oh yeah. New build coming.....The Land Recon.
I was waiting for this video!! Thank you Brad!!! All I need is the money now!!!
OVRLNDX you could fit a lot of fish tacos in the back of that thing! 😉👍🏼
If you're a hunter...The Gladiator might be the best vehicle made. Much more off road capable than other trucks, but it has a bed for deer and elk etc...
Brad you are in the Jeep life, business. Trade-in the wife's Jeep! You owe it to the channel and to yourself.
For people NOT doing over-land and off-road, get a Ranger, Tacoma, Ridgeline, Frontier, or Colorado, save $5k to $10k.
The Toyota is king when it comes to overlanding. 200 series, 80 series, hilux, Tacoma etc. Toyota has been doing it for far longer. Look at any Australian channel.
@@Th3unknownuser111 , you could be right. I do watch 4WD-Action channel, and they seem to love the Toyota Land Cruiser. I don't see them using the Tacoma much.
@@rondail5675 You won't see the Tacoma in Australia. However the Hilux which you do see in their channel is the international version of the Tacoma
I ordered my Wrangler Rubicon before the Gladiator was revealed, got it on February 1. Now that I have seen the Gladiator I kind of wish I had waited a few months. But I love my Wrangler so far and have no plans to do any swap.
I’m with you, I love the Gladiator but there is no way I could part with my JK😎
I don’t know your budget , but you should get the rubicon gladiator, I would if I could.great video keep them coming Brad.
Rubitrux in Boone NC has been building them for years....used the same AEV kit that Jeep is using since Jeep bough the rights from AEV for it. I wasn’t really as excited about the trucks since I’ve been seeing them for years. But the price is what’s going to be the killer. At Rubitrux a Rubicon 4 door truck with a 6.4 hemi is 110-125k
Yes the best is sport S model .
That way you build it your way.
I'm getting gater green when it comes out.
Putting new bumpers ,winch ,etc on it.
It will be a year or so but yep.
The only way to go topless
A 2 door with a powerful and smooth N/A V8 would be a dream to own.
Happy with my JL. Could have bought a house for what's invested. And not done...... I complain about length already. That price for that special edition is similar to my diesel 2017 F-350 4x4. Neat vehicle. Just not not for me right now. I will enjoy watching what people do. Big axles and 40' will be needed on that thing.
Thanks for your input. Always fun.
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OR,you could get a short tow trailer and customize that.
They have some really nice ones and you'd save probably 40k.....lol
Please do, I have been eyeing the Gladiator and would love to see how you make out with it! If it will survive your adventures and mods I can see it doing well for me.
I would get it. The gladiator is awesome uts combining both worlds. Idk if u like diesel or not but they're gonna be releasing a diesel version later. That would be the one to get in my opinion.
My only complaint is that it doesn’t come in a two door model with a longer bed.
Patrick Briley i saw a picture of a 2 door , i think 1 is coming
or a 2 door extended cab with a shorter bed and wheelbase
@@JeffPalmer941 when? last I saw on the 2dr was they said it was concept only for moab and there were no current production plans for it.
The Gladiator J6 is exactly what you're asking for. Jeep made it for EJS. Google it, you won't be disappointed.
Yep. Want one. I’m going to wait for the diesel model.
I'm waiting for the Gobi Gladiator with turbo-diesel to build up an overland rig. That turbo and 400+ lbft of torque are going to come in handy for the additional weight of a properly set up overlanding build and for operating it in the Rockies and high Sierras. Alaska/Arctic Circle are on my bucket list, too! Maybe I'll get to join up with you on that trip, Brad!!!👍🇺🇸
The diesel will have more torque, but less towing. The front end design and radiator is insufficient to cool the diesel while towing. If you plan to build the Gladiator up, the extra weight might be too much for the cooling system on the diesel package.
Brad...July 4th. view...You need to get one...I think you'd do an amazing job of putting it out there...It's only money ......
I think the Rubicon would be perfect for me. It has everything I want already. I don’t want to go bigger then 35. Maybe 37 on a second set of rims. I am trying to decide between a JL or a Gladiator. Needs to be a daily driver and has to fit 3 kids in car seats. With enough room for groceries and a stroller. Yet be able to do some trail riding. I figured having then locking diff and disconnected sway bar would make up for not runnin 40s with a 6 inch lift lol
Do it! Do it! Do it!! I’m sure your rig would be amazing 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I'm only at @4:24 and already screaming BUY IT BRAD, GO AHEAD AND SAY IT ALREADY, YOU'RE BUYING ONE!
Just finished the video....now I'm screaming YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS....I cant wait to see you put one of these through its paces.
Keep your jeep!! Love the CPO mess mug.
Great video Brad, Very good thoughts starting out with the base model and building up that one. I'm having fun in my old school CJ7 1978 Base model
Love the channel
The only downside is the Dana axles on the Sport S only allow you to have an automatic and substitute out the manual. At least according to their online builder.
I would be into an Alaska trip, hope I may meet up this fall when I come West to do Moab ect, but I agree Alaska I would do also
My wife and i are planning our 25th Anniversary trip to Alaska. It is going to be easier getting there than we ever thought possible. Easy enough we are building our 03 TJ to make this trip in.
I follow another channel called Patriot Campers from Australia and they make a perfect replacement for the Gladiator box great for overland trips. Last year they came out to California to try out the Jeep Wranglers for the first time they loved them. Check their channel great company they have.
Keep up the awesome videos Brad 👋
I too am wondering if getting a sport model, then upgrading it over time is the way to go. Jumping into a Rubicon model is a bit cost prohibitive at the moment.
I'll buy the last model year when the new JM Wranglers and JU Gladiators debut in 2029. Maybe by then there'll be a 2dr model of the JT available.
You should get one!! It’s complete the line up but maybe wait for the 3.0 Diesel since you have two with the 3.6
Love the new Gladiator!Cant decide what color to get...lol....
Gladiator Gang OMG I saw that blue in San Diego last month for the first time in person, it is INCREDIBLE!!! My wife is tired of hearing about “this amazing blue.”
Gladiator Gang b
Get gator green
I agree the Sport S with the tow package is the hot set-up! Yup a Sport S with tow package and the Dana 44's as you mentioned, will have the factory heavy duty equipment already there. All you need is a small lift, wheels/tires, and a rear locker and you're pretty much set for some serious overlanding/trail work. I don't think of the Gladiator as a rock crawler, but it'll make a very capable trail rig! I'm also thinking it's time for something exactly like that. So, I may be right behind you on the customer list at Jeep! I'd take one in Mojito Green, unfortunately that color is not available in the Gladiator!
I would love to see more color options for the Gladiator!
I'm no expert but isn't there a massive change in T-case ratio when you move away from the Rubi'??? Maybe it's different in the Gladiator???
rugerfj40 - Yes, the Rubicon has the 241 version transfer case which is 4:1 ratio while other models I believe are 2.73:1
You do make a good point on the sport-s, but if you're going to add lockers and suspension and different wheels and tires, then the Rubicon still is a better option. The money spent on aftermarket is going to be relatively close to the upgrade in model. My choice is the Rubicon, which I will order once I sell my Raptor.
I thought the same thing about the Sport vs Rubicon. And EVO Mfg is even building a Sport that they will race in Stock class. It certainly is a very capable and will be well supported vs the other brands.
I've been watching the EVO build with Eddie on Wayalife's channel. Really good stuff and looking forward to seeing all these guys in Moab in less than 2 week.
DDG life is the real life!!! Keep up the good work!
Lol did the same. Put deposit really wanted manual transmission but only available with auto. The dealer said the pushed back the non launch edition preorder back. As of right now i’m just excited about truck-bed and finally getting a rubicon. I also submitted video for contest. My dad has stage 4 mesothelioma cancer. That would be amazing to win and enjoy some time with my dad. Love the channel keep up awesome work!
Thank you for sharing your thougts about the Gladiator.
I'm thinking about selling my beloved 94 YJ (offroad/topless fun) and 2014 KL (family vehicle) in order to afford a new JT, as soon as it will be available in Europe in 2020.
I owned a slightly lifted JKU Sahara (full&half doors) before as our one & only family, fun & offroad vehicle, and enjoyed it very much.
Now that the Kids are growing older (5 & 3), we might need to haul more sport equipment for weekend & vacation trips to the alps & mediterranean sea the next years And I still would like going topless & offroad with the (slightly modified) JT...
I like the JLU as well, but IT just seems too similar to my old JKU to justify the buying price tag compared to the JKU.
But the JTs Truck bed really gives much more utility while keeping all the advantages of a Wrangler. It would just mean "more jeep vehicle" to me...
Hmm, I still have a year to make up my mind...what would you recommend?
All New Vehicles Prices Are Way Out Of Sight To Me! A Used Jeep Or Ford Or Ever A Chevy Are At Least Semi Affordable! But You Are Hyped To Get One You're Gonna Get One! Good Luck!
jodeluna62 edmunds just did a comparison on the JT and the ZR2 check it out on their YT channel
Wow! The truck is 31" longer than an Unlimited? That stat really caught me off guard. Great potential for these though, and I'm excited to see what people end up doing with them. My old girl still needs some time to get paid off, but man would I love one. That orange! 😯 Great video as always, Brad.
If I didn’t have a 26’ travel trailer to pull, I would be seriously looking at a Gladiator.
I could see you behind the wheel of their overland concept 😁🤙
40's on a Gladiator with a 6" lift will be the way to go...should get you past most of the length/departure angle issues. Definitely get the Sport S with the tow package...you get the axles without paying Rubicon prices. You will be swapping diff gears anyway, drop lockers in at that point. I always laugh at the Rubi guys that lift their rigs to get bigger tires...there goes 4-6 grand in stock tires/wheels/suspension you just financed, lol.