Richard Benoit - In my experience 90% of all modern boxers movement is wasted dancing and prancing around. If you look at the classic flat footed boxers (ie. Joe Lewis, Dempsey, Gentleman Jim Corbet, etc..) they were pretty much doing a modernized form of Xingyi. I was once a boxer also. I observed one fight between a very good boxer and an assailant and the boxer hit the guy over 12 times in the face and he still was standing. Any of the aforementioned greats could send a guy to the canvas comatose with a boxing glove. I also fought Muay Thai in Bangkok for three years. One day for the heck f it I sent a guy flying into the ropes with a Hsing-i hit. The Thai boxers were unable to replicate the strike because they hold their guard too high (old school boxers had a much lower guard and incidentaly, most came from the "school" of street fighting). Then again when was the last time you observed a Thai boxer knocking someone out with a punch?
Samluck Khamsing a muay thai legend who also won gold at the Olympics in western boxing. Samart payakaroon- a muay thai legend who also won the WBC western boxing title. ruclips.net/video/iHH2L6MMpxQ/видео.html Kaoklai galaxy former thai boxer turned WBA boxing champion ruclips.net/video/fJMqQtteR3o/видео.html Saenchai p4p best Muay thai boxer- won the PABA boxing championship. Anuwat- a muay thai champion known for his hands and KO. ruclips.net/video/P-TM3mDn-_8/видео.html All these guys have over 50 Punch KO's in their careers each Also Joe Lewish jack demsey and them all fought with their chins tucked in, and throw punches with the heel off the ground and hips turned over with wide hooks and uppercuts and an overhand right...everything that is considered wrong and unorthodox in Xingyiquan. lol ruclips.net/video/2LNzWHuygpw/видео.html Jack demsey was known for his signigture demsey roll... a technique where you bob up and down side by side firing off hooks pushing off the front foot with the back heel lifted off the ground turning into the hooks. something not taught or allowed in Xingyiquan ruclips.net/video/NnG7PWGrx20/видео.html =P
Also street fights are not boxing matches or MMA throw downs. Most of the time in a street fight you don't have time to get your guard up as the opponent will try to surprise you. Now I will be the first to admit that boxing, even modern boxing will impart many skills to help you win in a street fight (incidentally so will all other martial arts) but one has to look at an art much more objectively rather than to assume your style will just automatically lay down the smack on all others in and of itself (talking to Gracie Jiu Jistsu wanna be's comes to mind , and for the record I spent three years in one of their schools also) I was humbled by being knocked flat by a Brazilian Capoeira stylist once. The Hsing-i presented in this video is the same old "shove" move that exist in countless others across the web. The beauty of Hsing-i is that the practitioner will adapt the style to his particular self and come up with a dynamic fighting method that works best for him. My style is a close range trap and smash style and I can tell you that it is effective against modern boxers as well as Muay Thai boxers. Boxers suck in Muay Thai fights and Muay Thai guys suck in western boxing matches because each is out of their element. Unless you practice your art under realistic circumstances (not kickboxing matches) anyone will be out of their element in the 15 second to finish world of street fighting. Peace.
The only thing I see that i fake about the video is the student overreacting to the Sifu I hate when students do that that makes people think that the Art is fake and it is not.
Xing I Quan is an Internal Martial Art,so is anyone trying to compare this to any other style other then internal martial art? is philosophy is not to move fast when you practice but to develop internal energy ,that is the first objective ,someone that has no idea how internal styles work can not just look at moves in a form and decide if it works or not lol empty your cup people,stop thinking you know it all just because you took some lessons hahaha
mega.nz/#!UNUQGDjY!bPT8Ok5A02Ngm-bBmiLwEjY0nafpXb9J3GfWjC9b1y0 , Here is a book about, Xingy and the fundamentation of the Psychological instance in the Internal Arts. There are some Exercises of the Qi control.. Enyoit , the Sifu is Liang Shou- Yu.
I know this is an old comment, but Xingyiquan is primarily a WAR style. It was adapted from spear fighting and many manuals primarily place it's fighting purpose first and foremost. The "internal" is applicable across all kung fu styles, not just the big 3.
Simple, if an art is taught just through the use of doing forms you can't ever fight with it. There are a lot of fighting skills that can ONLY be learned against a live, resisting, non cooperative opponent. That's why "sport" fighting tends to be so much more effective in the real world, it can actually be trained correctly so that you can learn the elements that can only be learned "live".
@@ukguy thank you, for the quick response. I liked this variation a lot. Seems more practical then the most famous variation( I don't know the family's name, but you see this vsriation a lot here on youtube).
The first guy in red is doing Shanxi style Hsing I, he runs through the five elements and then some of the animal forms. I learned this exact style. Not far enough in though to recognise what the older guy in white is doing.
what language is this, is it mandarin ? i have been trying to learn hsing yi for a while now but dont live near any schools so i thank you for putting this video up, thank you very much.
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Richard Benoit - In my experience 90% of all modern boxers movement is wasted dancing and prancing around. If you look at the classic flat footed boxers (ie. Joe Lewis, Dempsey, Gentleman Jim Corbet, etc..) they were pretty much doing a modernized form of Xingyi. I was once a boxer also. I observed one fight between a very good boxer and an assailant and the boxer hit the guy over 12 times in the face and he still was standing. Any of the aforementioned greats could send a guy to the canvas comatose with a boxing glove. I also fought Muay Thai in Bangkok for three years. One day for the heck f it I sent a guy flying into the ropes with a Hsing-i hit. The Thai boxers were unable to replicate the strike because they hold their guard too high (old school boxers had a much lower guard and incidentaly, most came from the "school" of street fighting). Then again when was the last time you observed a Thai boxer knocking someone out with a punch?
Samluck Khamsing a muay thai legend who also won gold at the Olympics in western boxing.
Samart payakaroon- a muay thai legend who also won the WBC western boxing title.
ruclips.net/video/iHH2L6MMpxQ/видео.html
Kaoklai galaxy former thai boxer turned WBA boxing champion
ruclips.net/video/fJMqQtteR3o/видео.html
Saenchai p4p best Muay thai boxer- won the PABA boxing championship.
Anuwat- a muay thai champion known for his hands and KO.
ruclips.net/video/P-TM3mDn-_8/видео.html
All these guys have over 50 Punch KO's in their careers each
Also Joe Lewish jack demsey and them all fought with their chins tucked in, and throw punches with the heel off the ground and hips turned over with wide hooks and uppercuts and an overhand right...everything that is considered wrong and unorthodox in Xingyiquan. lol
ruclips.net/video/2LNzWHuygpw/видео.html
Jack demsey was known for his signigture demsey roll...
a technique where you bob up and down side by side firing off hooks pushing off the front foot with the back heel lifted off the ground turning into the hooks. something not taught or allowed in Xingyiquan
ruclips.net/video/NnG7PWGrx20/видео.html
=P
Who's Richard Benoit?
Ever fought even a journeyman pro boxer?
@@mongolchiuud8931true this
Thank you Sifu and student for sharing this ancient art👍
Thank you for sharing and preserving this ancient art👍
Also street fights are not boxing matches or MMA throw downs. Most of the time in a street fight you don't have time to get your guard up as the opponent will try to surprise you. Now I will be the first to admit that boxing, even modern boxing will impart many skills to help you win in a street fight (incidentally so will all other martial arts) but one has to look at an art much more objectively rather than to assume your style will just automatically lay down the smack on all others in and of itself (talking to Gracie Jiu Jistsu wanna be's comes to mind , and for the record I spent three years in one of their schools also) I was humbled by being knocked flat by a Brazilian Capoeira stylist once. The Hsing-i presented in this video is the same old "shove" move that exist in countless others across the web. The beauty of Hsing-i is that the practitioner will adapt the style to his particular self and come up with a dynamic fighting method that works best for him. My style is a close range trap and smash style and I can tell you that it is effective against modern boxers as well as Muay Thai boxers. Boxers suck in Muay Thai fights and Muay Thai guys suck in western boxing matches because each is out of their element. Unless you practice your art under realistic circumstances (not kickboxing matches) anyone will be out of their element in the 15 second to finish world of street fighting. Peace.
Even though I do not understand Chinese, I know this will be useful in instruction. Thank you so much for this.
The only thing I see that i fake about the video is the student overreacting to the Sifu I hate when students do that that makes people think that the Art is fake and it is not.
Xing I Quan is an Internal Martial Art,so is anyone trying to compare this to any other style other then internal martial art? is philosophy is not to move fast when you practice but to develop internal energy ,that is the first objective ,someone that has no idea how internal styles work can not just look at moves in a form and decide if it works or not lol empty your cup people,stop thinking you know it all just because you took some lessons hahaha
tell that to Bu Xuekuan...
mega.nz/#!UNUQGDjY!bPT8Ok5A02Ngm-bBmiLwEjY0nafpXb9J3GfWjC9b1y0 , Here is a book about, Xingy and the fundamentation of the Psychological instance in the Internal Arts. There are some Exercises of the Qi control.. Enyoit , the Sifu is Liang Shou- Yu.
I know this is an old comment, but Xingyiquan is primarily a WAR style. It was adapted from spear fighting and many manuals primarily place it's fighting purpose first and foremost. The "internal" is applicable across all kung fu styles, not just the big 3.
No mate Xingyi is practised in a fast and powerful manner. But done with relaxed muscles tho.
How in the heck can anyone rag on hsing I it's the foundation of real martial arts? Wonderful kung-fu video sir.
Simple, if an art is taught just through the use of doing forms you can't ever fight with it. There are a lot of fighting skills that can ONLY be learned against a live, resisting, non cooperative opponent. That's why "sport" fighting tends to be so much more effective in the real world, it can actually be trained correctly so that you can learn the elements that can only be learned "live".
Woch xing yi quan's style is this?
Why is different from the other xing yi quan videos?
Is this five elements form or twelve animals?Or both, maybe?
Yes it is both 5 elements and 12 animals. There are lots of variations of xing yi from different families so they all vary slightly.
@@ukguy thank you, for the quick response. I liked this variation a lot. Seems more practical then the most famous variation( I don't know the family's name, but you see this vsriation a lot here on youtube).
The first guy in red is doing Shanxi style Hsing I, he runs through the five elements and then some of the animal forms. I learned this exact style. Not far enough in though to recognise what the older guy in white is doing.
It is Mandarin, but he has a very strong accent. Thus, it's hard to understand, even if you can speak Mandarin.
Too simple! HY applications can be quite sophisticated.
I agree, they are quite basic.
yes I believe it is Mandarin, but my Chinese isn't really very good though. glad you enjoyed it.
what language is this, is it mandarin ? i have been trying to learn hsing yi for a while now but dont live near any schools so i thank you for putting this video up, thank you very much.
Chen jinfu
this tipe of force is not fot real applications, just for test the force. in reality you can not just push
hard
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