One more thought: yes, there are moments of choice, but as Jonathan says, the farther we go on the journey, the more we choose not to be a victim. So there's really nothing to fear. We DO eventually get there all in our own perfect time. Whew!
And Jonah, if you read these comments, i can only say all of this is real. Way more real than anything youve experienced in your human/small self perspective.
This is so cool. It's like the experience of Being is starting to come into the daily lives of "regular" (and don't take that term in a negative way!) people who may or may not have any clue about what is happening! And Jonathan, it appears you are becoming an ambassador/teacher/guru for those who are having that experience. Amazing, and wonderful ABSOLUTELY. I'm blown away. YOU GO JONAH! Wait...I don't mean "any clue." I mean coming into this knowledge without DECADES of preparation.
Yes... I believe that such "spiritual" experiences as a moment of touching into Being are actually much more common than we are often led to believe. Though perhaps still a bit rare in the daily moments of all 8 billion... still, they happen often. And if looked at collectively, there are still vast numbers of people having experiences of a certain vastness. Amen! It is, after all, our natural inheritance. As Jonah and I covered in our conversation, it is not a product of penance or strife or sacrifice, but of a gentle, one-step process more akin to a simple act of forgiveness or letting go that is, in fact, the polar opposite of "effort." And yeah... I agree... GO JONAH!! 😊🙏
good talk. i've dealt with all of these issues as well. even went sober from weed for awhile. the seeker is always in a state of becoming thinking it needs to complete a number of steps in order to arrive.
Indeed, Jasper! In the end "becoming" what one already is, requires only one simple step: recognition. The rest falls into place. The human condition though, is so frequently one of such profoundly innocent, yet spectacularly clouded, vision. In any case... I'm glad you found this compelling. Thanks for stopping by! Peace be with you! 😊🙏
Jonah and Jonathan - I am so happy for each of you. I look forward to even a glimpse of what you are seeing. Thank you for being willing to share this conversation.🙏🏾
Darby... you are delightful. Thank you. if Jonah doesn't see your comment here, I will make a point of passing along your lovely sentiment to him... 😊🙏❤
Kevin, I'm curious about your comment above... This is a moment in the vid that caught your attention, I presume? What was it about that moment that you found compelling? :-) - jonathan
@@jonathanvanvalin4518 hi. That is just my way of bookmarking parts that resonated with me. But yeah the part about following the wholesome voice vs the small self ego voice and the outcomes of both. That part is resonating cuz I do not know where and how to put my energy into.
One more thought: yes, there are moments of choice, but as Jonathan says, the farther we go on the journey, the more we choose not to be a victim. So there's really nothing to fear. We DO eventually get there all in our own perfect time. Whew!
Amen, Ksweet! 😊🙏
I really enjoyed the zoom gathering today, thank you Jonathan!
Glad you enjoyed it Zeid! Do feel free to stay in touch. Next one is Saturday, Aug 12... 😊🙏
I will definitely try ❤!@@jonathanvanvalin4518
And Jonah, if you read these comments, i can only say all of this is real. Way more real than anything youve experienced in your human/small self perspective.
This is so cool. It's like the experience of Being is starting to come into the daily lives of "regular" (and don't take that term in a negative way!) people who may or may not have any clue about what is happening! And Jonathan, it appears you are becoming an ambassador/teacher/guru for those who are having that experience. Amazing, and wonderful ABSOLUTELY. I'm blown away. YOU GO JONAH!
Wait...I don't mean "any clue." I mean coming into this knowledge without DECADES of preparation.
Yes... I believe that such "spiritual" experiences as a moment of touching into Being are actually much more common than we are often led to believe. Though perhaps still a bit rare in the daily moments of all 8 billion... still, they happen often. And if looked at collectively, there are still vast numbers of people having experiences of a certain vastness. Amen! It is, after all, our natural inheritance. As Jonah and I covered in our conversation, it is not a product of penance or strife or sacrifice, but of a gentle, one-step process more akin to a simple act of forgiveness or letting go that is, in fact, the polar opposite of "effort." And yeah... I agree... GO JONAH!! 😊🙏
good talk. i've dealt with all of these issues as well. even went sober from weed for awhile. the seeker is always in a state of becoming thinking it needs to complete a number of steps in order to arrive.
Indeed, Jasper! In the end "becoming" what one already is, requires only one simple step: recognition. The rest falls into place. The human condition though, is so frequently one of such profoundly innocent, yet spectacularly clouded, vision. In any case... I'm glad you found this compelling. Thanks for stopping by! Peace be with you! 😊🙏
Jonah and Jonathan - I am so happy for each of you. I look forward to even a glimpse of what you are seeing. Thank you for being willing to share this conversation.🙏🏾
Darby... you are delightful. Thank you. if Jonah doesn't see your comment here, I will make a point of passing along your lovely sentiment to him... 😊🙏❤
@@jonathanvanvalin4518 You are a total sweetheart. I would appreciate that.
Opposite here it`s. Lift depression. I STEP INTO AMAZING STILLNES❤
Amen, Kathleen... amen! 😊🙏 - Jonathan
9:45-12:25 - small self vs other place
Kevin, I'm curious about your comment above... This is a moment in the vid that caught your attention, I presume? What was it about that moment that you found compelling? :-) - jonathan
@@jonathanvanvalin4518 hi. That is just my way of bookmarking parts that resonated with me.
But yeah the part about following the wholesome voice vs the small self ego voice and the outcomes of both.
That part is resonating cuz I do not know where and how to put my energy into.