THIEF IS S TIER! Thief Best Build Guide: Skills, Augments & Equipment To Use | Dragon's Dogma 2
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0:00 Initial Observations
0:27 Intro
0:30 Weapon Skills
0:37 Cutting Wind
0:58 Ignited Blades
1:18 Shadow Veil
1:47 Skull Splitter
2:16 Powder Blast
2:43 Concussive Leap
3:19 Implicate
3:56 Smoke Shroud
4:28 Plunder
4:48 Draw And Quarter
5:31 Masterful Kill
6:00 How to unlock Secret Maister Skills
6:26 Secret Skill: Blades Of The Pyre
6:56 Secret Skill: Formless Feint
7:25 Augments
7:35 Augment: Subtlely
7:43 Augment: Gratification
7:54 Augment: Poise
8:00 Augment: Vigor
8:15 Augment: Verve
8:44 Thief Build Best Skills
10:04 Thief Build Best Augments
11:09 Thief Build Best Equipment
13:26 Outro
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One Augment I forgot to recommend is Lethality from Archer, letting you deal more damage on weakspots
Which Vocation should I make a video on next? I got most Vocations maxed by now so I can showcase most skills
I love thief until I got mystic spearhand it is so much fun. The shield, the force push and the home run hit...
im not a fan of leveling archer but it felt like a struggle. Also to keep up with ur Formless feint i reccomend putting the Magic Archer's stamina per kill that way you are forced to go offensive and not worry about damage and kill them before ur stamina kills u but u kill them and gain some stamina
Concussive Leap is REALLY underestimated for how good it really is with it's utility. It's better than levitate for height and almost as good for distance.
You can Jump > Concussive Leap > Skull Splitter (weapons must be out) to reach places insanely high or far.
The real place where this combo shines is against Griffins and Dragons,. If they're hovering above the ground, this combo will allow you to reach them, even hitting the dragon's heart when it breathes fire from above.
I personally run with Concussive Leap, Skull Splitter, Smoke Shroud, and Formless Feint.
Voracity from Magick Archer and Zeal from Warfarer are S Tier augments. All other augment slots are personal preference. Probably Endurance, Exaltation, and Lethality being my next favorites. No need for defensive augments or climbing augments.
- Skull splitter does way more damage than climbing/stabbing and the combo I listed above helps you do it on every mob type, even flying mobs.
- Defensive augments are not needed since Smoke Shroud and Formless Feint will make you take no damage.
- Smoke Shroud lets you kill regular mobs really fast with auto-crits. It also prevents airborne mobs from flying backwards and away from you. Especially good if you have no archer pawn.
- Bring along a Mage Pawn with the Maister skill for infinite Stamina. (Allows for Insane DPS and Infinite Survivability while the skill is active on you.)
Game = Solved. Thief OP
Edit: I'm not a fan of Blades of the Pyre. The enchant time is extremely short compared to the mage boons, the extra damage it provides is marginal, and the BiS as well as pre-BiS daggers late-game have perma-enchants anyway which negates the skill.
@@ThinkingCap_ Thank you for the kind words. The name of the mage Maister skill is Celestial Paean. It's probably the best pawn ability in the entire game. 2nd would probably be Augural Flare from Sorcerer.
@@ThinkingCap_ That's likely referring to the Magick Archer Maister ability, but pawns cannot be Magick Archers. Augural Flare puts a sticky grenade on the target. When the grenade explodes, it multiplies the explosions by how much you hit the grenade pre-explosion. Really good combo with Skull Splitter or Magick Archer targeted attacking.
I thought the BiS daggers were the dragon ones? They don't have a perm enchantment. Or are the holy key looking ones better?
@@Juggornawt Holy key is better out of a technicality which is Dwarven Smithing. It can make full use out of the stat distributions of Dwarven Smithing which unenchanted weapons don't get to take advantage of. Plus, to my current understanding, there's only 1 creature in the game that resists Holy damage. Even then the daggers are strong enough on their own to kill that 1 creature quickly.
Blades of the Pyre is supposed to be used with Formless Feint. With the latter it allows you to abuse it. You don't use pyre to enchant but for the explosion which is really strong.
Plunder is actually really good.
You can use it on NPCs in town and because it doesn't do DMG they wont aggro (Unless you just do it right in front of them around NPCs that can fight). You can get tons of things from it.
I plundered a shop keep at Rest Point and got some membership card to some club. Someone suggested using it on unique NPCs who for this reason, gets you some cool stuff.
ALSO, if you don't know when to use it or don't want t worry about it ... make a Thief Pawn and give it to them to use in fights. My Pawn Plundered a stack of 3 Farsight stones (IDK, w/e the name is of the item that you use to teleport to the crystals) of some random bandit or Goblin. She got me some new bottoms off a Boss. I hear you can get some bad ass Spear from Dragons. It's not limited to what you can loot off of them.
I was not aware of that, will be having fun testing on all kinds of NPCs, ty!
Ive gotten wakestone shards and tp stones off cyclops. I like having a pawn with it running around
Theif is definitely one of the best vocations as a player, but isn't played optimal by a pawn.
not true， with proper setup, my pawn thief is the highest dps, best survivor, never down in the entire playthrough and the boss killer, what else do you want?
Get mage talent to increase stamia and recover, get archer talent to significantly increase vital point damage, also get fast climb talent and low stamia consumption for clinging on boss talent, your thief will always on boss weak point.
@@dahaixing2376yah that’s a lie. My thief pawn just makes one attack then runs away. I rarely see them using their skills. Even paid real money to switch their inclination and the AI is still not using any of their abilities
@@JacobSauersBad set up then. Seen plenty of theif pawns that wreck everything
That is because thief pawns can not obtain the thief’s two mastery skills. Which for the thief class is very powerful and puts it over the top.
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The frost daggers are really good before end game. Really good.
For the 2 maister skills I got them with thief rank 1. They just gave it to me after first meeting them.
Brilliant video I love how much time you spent explaining everything
Thanks for sharing this :) Big help.
Great vid. I vote for Mystic Spearhand next
If ur using blades of the pyre you can dodge the explosion if you spam the dodge in the opposite direction
are the spite daggers better than bolts from the blue? A lot of youtube videos seem to recommend getting bolts from the blue as the best early game daggers even though the spite daggers are actually easier to get. I have both and cant decide which is better
btw verve is actually not a great augment for late game because it only increases your damage by a base of 30, which is less than 5% with end game weapons. Dominance is a strong damage augment.
Implicate is also amazing on ground enemies. It can catch evasive enemies like thief bandits and wolves. It can knock down enemies with shields. It can knock over rock skinned saurians. In all cases you can follow up with your heavy attack for that KO finisher move.
I like to run powder blast, flames of the pyre, skull slpitter, and either gut and run or concussive leap. Lot of people dont realize you can spam dodge away from flames of pyre blast damage. Blowing things up is too much fun.
Was using the Ice imbued daggers for so long and loved the CC it caused before moving to the Holy imbued ones from the endgame. After using both, i think i might take the hit on the damage and go back for CC...😅
Maybe just run normal daggers with high str and then bring a mage with ice weapon. You will get the super high damage and freeze effect.
@theolong6689 Definitely a viable option for sure!
That Witcher Soundtrack goes hard 😂
1:57 - "WEEEEeeee... Lol I prefer to call that skill the Yeeter intead of skull splitter😂
I´m playing with Ring of Skullduggery. Unfortunately the game doesn´t show dmg numbers so I´m not sure if 20 flat dmg from behind deals more dmg than increasing strength by 30 tho
Yeah as we currently don't know the proper math I'm not sure I can recommend a ring that is more situational
Max out archer first, really enjoyed it. now on thief and the difference is crazy.
Great Video. One question, on 7:13 when you're using formless feint you regain stamina. In the comments you say to watch the augments part of the video and I did but that doesn't explain how you're able to instantly regain stamina without the use of consumables. There's no augment that makes you automatically regain stamina.
So how do you do it?
It's the Magick Archer augment that recovers stamina whenever you kill an enemy
@@darkhero2 Okay thanks man! Keep up the vids.
Ty will do!@@SungodNika56
A plunder pawn is amazing for monster material farming.
I like to use the powder blast for big flying enemies like griffons and drakes I plant the charge on there weak spot and when they try and fly away I blast them with the charge knocking them down
Why would you not use the Frosted Edges? 1000 total damage (500+ str and 500+ magic) vs 600 str on Framae Blades.
I agree, using them now. Elfen upgraded + dragon forged giving combined damage 1,245+. Going to add the sorcerer skill Asperity to increase rate of frost build up (I hope).
hello bro , i got a question , how do you so many have augments ( to use with the thief ) ????
I like Powder Blast (PB) combined with Draw & Quarter (D&W). D&Q forces you to leap off after the attack. So... plant PB first, then do D&Q and detonate the bomb as you are leaping off, it's two-for-one. Don't waste the climb on the cyclops or griffon for just one attack, when you can do two. Plus the knock down potential is very high.
Do one for Trickster!!
The early griffin gets the worm
Up for a round of cards? Gwent, specifically.
I got both the Meister skills without even being a thief. Not sure if it's a glitch or intentional but just a heads up
Noob here. Ignited blades not working with bolts from blue daggers. Is that cos of the magic buff
You dont have to be level 4 or higher for him to give you the theif master abilities. I hadn't even started the vocation yet and he still gave them to me
Plunder Skill provides infinite ferrystone farming from my pawn
You can use draw and quarter whenever you have someone pinned too
Warrior next!
Man, I really want Wayfarer to use master teaching. Formless Feint with an Great sword is the closest to gut Berserk build. Could u imagine doing skull splinter with an Great sword
So is dwarven blacksmith the best option for thieves? Keeping in mind that the Dragonforced will halve all weight, negating the negative aspect of the Dwarven smithy almost completely.
For knockdown? Yes.
Armor is sort of pointless isn't it? Since you have formless feint. Does formless faint dodge magic? I rarely see mages so no idea
What about the Frosted edges daggers? those are mad, and sports 500 magick dmg also, and 500 str
they are very good with Sorcerer Augments ( the magick and the elemental exploit one ) , you can also not use the sorcerer augments and have them only on ice weak monsters , in that case i reccomend doing the elven smithing
Is there gear better than what the old dragonforge guy sells for wyrm crystals if so I haven't seen it on my 5th playthrough
Not really no
How are you constantly recovering stamina on kill with formless faint active?
It’s an augment
It's an augment, I show it later in the video in the augment section
If you want ultimate thief / shadow walker build based on stamina for the ult skills , heres what ive been running:
fighter, level 2, mettle , increased health
Augment for Archer : endurance, level 4 archer , increased stamina
Mage : Exaltation , level 9 , increases stamina recovery speed
Warrior : vitality , level 1 , increased health
Magic Archer : Voracity , level 4 , gain stamina with killing blow
Warfarer: Zeal , level 6 , reduces stamina consumed on weapon skill
upon further testing I think I'd probably swap out the hp augments for verve and polarity since you don't get hit anyway lol Blades of pyre melts bosses and heavens key with polarity augment is a bit better than the dragons dagger with the Magick boost
@@babyatlas126 verve only gives you 30 points of strength (the sorcerers magic one is the same) and polarity is only 5% increase, which is all abysmal. mettle is a 30% increase to physical defence which is huge. the mages defence one is 30% as well but for magic defence. the warfarers rank 9 augment is good, it reduces your stamina consumption as if it's one carry weight lower
@hivefleetkronos4108 I know mettles great , but I wasn't getting hit anyway so I was just tinkering around with other augments that maybe add more significance to this build in particular, haven't had trouble with any of the enemy types
@hivefleetkronos4108 polarity with the daggers is good tho especially with my pawn Mage always adding Elemental effects
Does the the ring which makes you immune to fire accumulate protect from the fire off of blades of pyre?
had to test it. yes it does. But it will not protect from the blast itself. ring of quenching if anyone is interested.
@@Toetech0im trying to do a 100% fire resist build, i have a armor that has 30%, 2 rings with 25% each, a cloack with 3% and the database on internet show a pants and a circlet with 5% each, for a total of 98%, right now i have 88% and the damage is less than half of the normal but the burn do more damage and still non viable, but when i get the pants and circlet i will test again
I thought i was going to love the mystic spearhand but after playing theif its by far my favorite class. So fast, so much damage. And a very fun dynamic playstle with tons of cool skills and variety. Just overall such an amazing class. Honestly though the classes all feel really fun and well designed.
How does your stamina recover so quickly in 12:20?
It's an augment, I show it later in the video in the augment section
orgin of black knife tiche
FYI blades of the pyre is the highest thief skill hands down. And probably the second highest damage ability behind mystic archers martyr's bolt which one shots dragons if you charge it up long enough. Don't even bother using any other ability for damage besides blades of the pyre. 4 or 5 so uses kills most bosses/bigger enemies, and is spammable unlike draw and quarters no other ability comes close even helm splitter doesn't compare not to mention it's consistent and isn't jank like the other ability's.
Just my two sense.
Trickster build can’t wait
Shadow veil is useless unless u are solo. Meaning no pawns. If u have pawns then the enemy will see the pawns and then aggro to u. It did this in the first game too
Yeah gotta use command wait to run past enemies
Please someone tell me the armor in the thumbnail
How to get framae blades
You should focus on letting your weight very low. I noticed you are sitting at average weight in your clips. Getting to light or very light will decrease stamina useage by a lot.
You can literally scrap armor altogether and increase your invincibility time with formless feint if you wanted.
any advice on how to manage inventory to keep it very light. I find myself on the verge of average weight constantly, and wonder if I should just dump everything into my pawns besides armor and maybe like 3 healing potions
Verve being a flat 30 strength is very very bad. You're better ff running lethality or even defensive augments as those are a % increase. Lethality being +5% dmg
Maister-May ster, Meister- My-ster. Maister from Old French Maistre. Meister from Old High German Meistar.
The only skills you need are Formless Feint and Blades of the Pyre. BotP is NOT a buff, it is an attack that happens to give you flaming attacks. Just turn on Formless Feint and spam BotP to evaporate everything in the game. Know down? Huge. Damage? Huge. TTK on a drake? ~20 seconds.
This leaves plenty of room for Concussive Leap for traversal utility and one other skill you like that might not fit in a pure combat build. The idea of using self-destruct then dodging it to maximize damage is downright hilarious.
Don't sleep on Plunder, a Thief pawn stole Dead Ringer for me from the Melve dragon
I'll be doing a lot of testing with it, ty for recommending!
so.......thief class has ultra instinct basically, just be auto dodging huh
Plunder got me like 20 ferry stones XD and 8 wake stones
Stealing from which enemies?
I personally don't think it's that good because I never found myself needing more materials, including ferrystones and wake stones. Plus in the endgame monsters start dropping them normally so I now have 40+ ferrystones
@@Dubstepticon47 humans
Where do you get the Framae blades from?
In the arena where you fight a dragon on the southwest of battahl
You can also get them from the shop at the volcano camp without fighting the dragon, not sure if its level related, but I bought them there
@@marzos6901 Thank you
@@darkhero2 Thank you
Light dagger best very op i clear a griffin in 5 sek 😂
I’m lvl 50 and just realized I’ve played 70 hours without any augments or core skills 😂 I’m about to feel like god in this game
Plunder is how you farm ferrystones without mods. Yw. Bye.
I don't think it's that great. Plus you get Ferrystones normally in the endgame, tons of them.
Blade of pyre is not a meister skill...it's a joke skill... They even say it, they teach idiots that and they leave thinking they've gotten the secrets.
It’s useless unless you also get Formless Feint - these two together is gangsta and the whole point of the meister skills IMO
Not using heavens keys? Boo 😂💀
Why is ur game looking like u play on 60 fps?
I love this game, but having to upgrade every vocation essentially to get all augments just for a good build is trash
I think it’s honestly cool because it makes you try other classes I was a thief until I wanted to lvl up warrior for the vitality augment now I absolutely love playing warrior
@@TrayGolden I get it, but I just don't like changing stuff like that. The grind & amount of money is ridiculous to me lol.
@@stone_est19xx50 I get it bro and I respect your opinion everyone has different tastes in games
@@TrayGolden Hell yeah, fair enough. I've played fighter, theif, & warrior so far. Idk why I liked fighter the most for some reason theif & warrior dealt really good damage, but they just aren't my playstyle. The fighter is very underrated in my opinion. It can deal very good damage & tank as well if built right. I'm still trying to perfect it at the moment though
@@stone_est19xx50 I expected that a lot of people downplay warrior because of their speed but their super armor and busted damage makes up for it to me and as long as you play and build warrior right you are very rarely going to get knocked down I’m thinking about trying fighter but they feel like the basic sword and shield guy in every rpg I want to play as something a little more unique