Is Kate Bishop's (Hawkeye) Bow Strung Backwards? | Storing Bows
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Hawkeyed viewers might have noticed this wallhanger in Marvel's Hawkeye Episode 5 and wondered if it looks wrong. It kind of is, and isn't. We look at how archers store their bows and why this may not look as bad is it does.
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I mean, hypothetically in the show, that might be a bow that are hung there for sentimental reasons, just like plaques and medals, so maybe it's not a bow Kate is super worried about.
Yeah. In the show, it’s her very first bow from when she was a small child. So just for display and not intended to ever be used again.
Her first bow that she wouldn't ever use again, so yeah basically.
I've always love Hawkeye, he uses a bow to fight aliens and machines. He might not the strongest but sure the coolest.
shame his technique is so bad its clear hes never had an archery lesson in his life (not watched the new series yet maybe hes had a lesson by now)
@@john345ish agreed
"There are 100,000 aliens out there!"
"And I killed 11 of them. You're welcome."
4:36 ohh my god, unbelievable!
I'm so glad someone else noticed this it's been driving me nuts. Also in the early episodes she has her recurve brace height so high she actuallly turns it into a longbow! :D
Seeing Hawkeye's bow hanging by the string from one hook bothers me. The bow needs to be balanced on that one spot every time it's hung up, and I'd be concerned about wear on the string over time. If I had to hang up a bow I'd use two hooks or pegs and rest the bow itself on them, not the string. But that's just me.
Good to see you are still making videos, I started archery 6 months ago (40 years old but always wanted to get into it, I chose traditional barebow, lean towards hunting style also joined a nice club) and find/found that your channel is one of the better ones out there for beginners. All the best from Canada...p.s I bought the Bear Takedown Rambo last blood edition (same Bow that you have but says Rambo on it lol) and use that as my main Bow, nice Bow
I've seen images of old bows being stored like that as well. What I thought to be the case was basically what you covered in the video; it was more common before my time, during the 60s-80s maybe, because the idea was that it would help a recurve bow retain its spring strength when not in use. Not such a common practice any more, though, and if you aren't using a traditional all-wood bow you arguably don't even need to unstring the bow to store it for a long time either. Though, having the habit of unstringing the bow when not in use is still good practice.
A modern bow using ILF limbs might be better stored completely disassembled. Some risers let the limbs pull off very easily when it isn't strung (like mine), which makes displaying it unstrung quite a bit less convenient.
I really must learn to watch videos all the way through before commenting because I always mention exactly what the video is about to say,🙏
I store my bow unstrung, but with the string on it, using a wall mounted guitar holder. It holds the grip so that the bow is upright as if held in hand. I happened to have extra mounts after hanging my guitars, so I thought I'd try it for the bow and it worked perfectly.
I'll add that it's hanging in my bedroom closet where no one will mess with it.
Some good advice here, thanks for sharing as always. In answer to how I store my bows...
my flatbows are stored flat in Bazooka cases (they are hard plastic cases used for carbon fishing rods but work perfectly for flatbows as they cases are extendable )
My recurves are all take down recurves and all bar one are stored dismantled in cases or bags.
This includes about a dozen beginners bows.
English longbow, crossbow and compound in bow bags of different sizes and shapes.
Only the compound and cross bow are strung.
I store my bows disassembled. Sadly, I don’t have space in my current life.
If I had space & shoot everyday, it will never be unstrung. I only shoot thu fri sat and sometimes sun
I shoot my bow everyday but always kept it unstrung after use, it took less than 10 seconds to string, so why not keep it safe for the moment when I would eventually forgot about it and go onto vacation with it still strung?
Well heck. I have quite a number of bows stored on a rack on the wall and they're all stored strung backward because I didn't think there was any real tension being placed on the limbs. I suppose I will stop doing that right now. Thanks for the informative video Sir. Love your channel.
Stored un-strung, always. Since bows can set when stored strung for an extended period of time (loosing draw weight), I'd argue they can also set when stored in the opposite direction.
It might seem you'd gain draw weight initially upon stringing the bow (and this may very well be true), but now the back of the bow that should be flexible is set in a compressed state, and the belly of the bow that should be resistant to compression is now stretched out (*albeit with much less force than storing strung, but this also concerns long-term storage). Modern materials may be more resistant to compressive/elastic forces opposite of their material design to a point, but I'm not comfortable storing my bows in such a way. It's the reason bows aren't backed with horn, or bellied with sinew.
Instead of stringing the bow backwards to keep the string safe on the bow, just use a stringkeeper, or even an elastic band looped through the end of the string and placed over the nock
Yep was covered in the video. at 7:20
keep it in your sock drawer works too
I got an 8 slot sword rack given to me by a friend who over estimated the number of weeb swords I own, however it works great for bows. I have an Eastern trad bow a couple hunting bows, a couple takedowns and an ilf takedown and they all fit well. Makes a good display honestly.
When stringing it backwards, you turn both sides of the string. Noticed that you only turned one, and that's why it kind of changes sides in the middle of the bow.
Always store unstrung if not going to be used for a month or more 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Only if you have cheap bow. My friend has kept hes bear and hoyt recurves stung allways and they never lost any pounds.
@@JJ79_ I have Win & Win, Samick & PSE ilf stuff. even if I buckle my seat belt, it doesn’t mean I’ll not drive with caution. Or….. ‘Just because I have a quality Volvo, doesn’t mean I want to risk my life’
If I have a Bear, it will be unstrung if I’m not going to shoot it for +month.
Traditional Wooden Bows and the ArcRolan Snake bow are recommended to be stored strung backwards. That's just the way.
I think an unstrung bow is just as beautiful; Like a sleeping tiger or a hawk on a perch.
That was, unfortunately, the least of the shows problems 😁
Good information, but the bow you are referring to belongs to Kate Bishop and not Hawkeye. It was discussed in a scene with Kate and her mom. Notice the ribbons below.
Thanks for the clarification. Will amend the title.
the people from Rolan, who produce the bow called "Snake" ,recommend to store the bow strung backwards, to keep the power in the bow
I recently bought a Harvey bow with all the trimmings cant wait for it to arrive...
I’m not an archer or archery buff, I just stumbled across this video. I enjoyed it and found it very interesting, keep up the good work! I AM a huge Marvel and MCU fan however, so on to MY question...
Do collapsible bows like the one Hawkeye (Clint) uses actually exist? If they do, are they as good as a standard bow? I’m very curious. Thanks for the video and hopefully for an answer!
I have seen foldable survival bows. But nothing like hawkeye's.
Definitely not as good as a standard from what I have seen. And they don't look as cool.
I have 2 Cartel Epic Hawk recurves - I store as NU demonstrates @ 7.14 mark in video - keeps string with bow, with right number of twists for brace height and no tension on bow - hangs on inside of wardrobe door out of sight and reach of prying little fingers (grandchildren )
4:28. Ah yess, the good old Sammick Sage used by vikings. Strung backwards of course..
I'm just watching Endgame again and coincidentally, at 31:13 in, there's the scene where Antman has just gone to the Avengers Compound. At that point, there are two bows displayed on the wall and they're both strung in the same way. From that, I would assume it's a conscious decision and maybe just a habit of whoever was in the prop team looking after that stuff. Presumably/possibly, they used the same people for the Hawkeye series so the habit of reverse stringing when displaying the bow, is repeated there.
I store my eastern style bows unstrung and in their cloth bags along with the string, even if I plan to use them again soon. For my takedown olympic style bows I tend to leave them strung if I'm going to be using them again relatively soon, otherwise I unstring them and hang them, limbs attached, by 2 pegs under the riser.
But if you fail with your storage, it is always possible to leave it for recycling, alternatively recycle it yourself for another purpose, and buy a new one.
I still have no proper place for my bow after home renovation, so it travels around different shelves, unstrung. When used it more often, just hung it on the coat hanger))
The scene in question, the bow isn't a bow Kate uses anymore. It's her first bow from when she was a kid, so its no longer in use and is just displayed. No harm, no foul. Just a display choice.
Your right people grab my guitars and start strumming them even if they can’t play just how you described them dry firing a string bow
Hello Nu Sensei, a comment about how I store my bow. It is an Epic Zen and I stored it strung. I am now waiting for a new bow and probably A$300 out of pocket. Thankyou for your videos, easy to understand and lots of information. Suppose I can hang my split and twisted old bow over the door, strung backwards, now. Wendy
I store mine with just one limb attached and with a cloth around it because of humidity.
It's inside my wardrobe, a dry place
My longbow is stored unstrung in a padded cover, with the bottom loop still set and the top loop down over the limb, to keep the string at my preferred number of twists.
I keep my low poundage bow strung backwards for storage, string it the right way when I use it, and no ill effects after years of doing it
my unstrung bow (traditional hunter) distance between tips (idk how its called in english) is perfectly lenght of my string so i often put string outside to storage nad dotn twist my string. any preassure is on limbs or string during storaging so its possible. and this carving on tips allows me to hang it on wall for example. i can sendyou photos if you want :D
I'd please like to see you shoot a left handed bow like the one that your holding in the video. Do you think that you would over-draw and bring the string back to your ear? Sidebar Topic: A bow that is made of fiberglass is fiberglass reinforced plastic. (FRP) The cured resin is plastic. A lacquered wooden bow is wood reinforced plastic. A composite bow is multiple materials reinforced with plastic. So, the Mongolian bow uses super strong glue made from fish bladders. That glue is plastic. If you take a wooden bow and cover it with fiberglass reinforced plastic the wood would be considered a just a core material and the strength of the bow would be from the fiberglass reinforced plastic. With that said I think the bow over the door at Kate Bishop's is a just symbol of readiness. She probably swaps them out every day because she is always ready to be a super-hero : )
Storing my bows unstrung and standing up in special cloth containers. Not intended for show, but for keeping things together. Don't do anything special with the English D-Bow, as the string is then securely tied to the bottom nock and only unstrung on the upper end, with the loop still around the bow itself. On my American flatbow, I use a piece of ribbon to ties the bottom loop securely to the bow, so it doesn't come loose. The top loop is just slid down the limb.
I have three older compound bows with wood core and fiberglass laminated limbs that have been string for years, yet they have not lost ant appreciable strength, if any at all.
All my bows (and crossbow) are compounds, so I just basically leave them on the rack strung. 😅
Though I used to own a Chinese Jaguar replica (Tomahawk takedown recurve) 45#@28" which I unstrung after every session. Limbs are maple/glass laminated.
I've been using the leather string keepers. They are pretty cheap and do a good job
I have a bow on the wall. I use a string holder. Brace height is constant. I don't have to adjust BH every time.
I'd love to know brand and model of that bow. Seems the pivot point of the grip is way over it's center.
Hey sensei. Are you going to be doing a popshots for far cry 6
Hi I have a quick question. I'm from Sweden and I want to buy my first bow, but I don't have that many options. So I was wondering if I could buy a bow from Amazon or if it's a bad idea because it's online.
I store my main bow (Gillo G1 barebow) on a floor stand by the grip, always strung. But I shoot it daily. I just put up hooks on my wall to hang it there by the riser. My trad bow (wood recurve takedown) unstrung on the wall with the string just dangling.
I get that they are trying to do an old school, classic vibe by stringing all their unused wall hanger bows backwards, but it makes me cringe every time I see it.
I have a rack and store my bows unstrung with the string looped around the bow.
What brand is that hybrid bow you show up here?
What hybrid bow were you holding
Hair ties/scrunchies. Unstring then use hair ties to keep the string tidy.
My vintage compound from the 80s is ofc strung and hanging from the string, my longbows are all unstrung and I use a string holder on them.
My Hoyt Gamemaster I store strung in reverse so that I don't have to mess around with the string holder on the recurve, it needs almost no pressure to get the string on and i doubt that compressing the tips together less than a cm is really bad for the bow.... I guess I'll see hehe...
My takedown recurve goes back in the box after use... Riser has its own pouch too
For my compound bow, it cannot be unstrung, I don't have the time/patience to use my portable bow press, so it's just left but strings are covered with cloth. as for the other bows, I just use rubber band to string it from one of the end to hold the string with some tension. Some cheap bows have flat bow end tip that I just let the bow sit in the corner, with strings tied with a rubber band to prevent falling off. My horse bow I just unstrung, tied with rubber band for one end and let it sit behind my computer display.
I have a takedown recurve and keep it in a padded bag when I'm not using it.
I always store my bows unstrung, with the string in the case. I always see it as a safety issue. Even without an arrow, if you pull back a bow the wrong way it can hurt the user, with the string hitting their forearm being a common problem, or the tension being too high for the user causing a risk of muscle injury. It's not that hard to string and unstring after use, so when leaving and arriving at the archery range, and also I find when unstrung it's much easier to carry and store a bow at home with a case designed to hold it that way.
As long as it's a takedown bow you're good
i have been reverse stringing my recurve bows for 44 years..... no issues as long as the string length is correct for the bow.
So I started shooting a few months ago, and was only using 22lbs the other day I bout my first bow at 25 and while I can shoot I get gassed out a lot fast and I've been having to change alot of my form to actually hit what I'm aiming at
Any tips on how I can build up the strength and endurance to shoot heavier bows?
(I hope to one day be able to pull 40-45lbs minimum so I can go hunting but it's looking like a distant future with how sore I am😂😂)
The most important thing is getting your form right. The bow weight that you’ve chosen is a good starting weight and you could be on it for a year while you perfect your form. Shoot a little as often as you can and your strength will come with time but if you don’t get your form right at the beginning then your accuracy will never be any good.
There are rubber band equiped training devices especially designed for archery strength training available. Alternatively: some all purpose rubber bands for sports, does the same.
Additionally: dumbbell rowing, reverse rowing, or face pulls for the back muscles. And excercises for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulders. And very important in my opinion: don't overdo it. Muscles will get used to heavy weights quickly, but not tendons and ligaments. And recovery from an injury takes a long time. An increase of 5 pounds every three months should be safe in my opinion. But I am not a doctor. Just archery crazy. 😷
I keep my modern made horse bows strung backwards and hanging by the string. They are lightweight and it doesn't hurt a thing. However, I wouldn't do this with a fully wooden or horn bow.
I take mine apart and put the pieces in the case.
Its interesting, I first laughed at it when I saw it... Then I saw one in a Museum strung like that and also laughed... I then made a (bad) PVC Bow with large Siyahs where the String just so happens to be the right length when to string it backwards with no bend, its a no brainer to store it like that... I stopped laughing so much :). Nice Vid!
Your final question, "How do you store your bow?". Well for me personally I unstring it, leave it loose on the bow like you had it for most of the video, put it in my garage, and leave it for over two years because I have no where to shoot it, and my crippling social anxiety prevents me from going to a club. I'm sure its fine in the garage though. At least it isn't strung backwards like this Hawkeye noob guy.
So you saw my Reddit thread where I assumed this was flat out incorrect, eh? I'm now forever known as the jumping into conclusions muppet!
I'm storing each bow on two hooks (used to hang bikes) hanging off a shelf. The plan was to drill them to a wall, but I just can't be arsed.
I hang my green ash bow, and my wife's elm bow upright. I find its the best way to store them in our house. Takes up less space.
Oh dude, my first 5 hours of shooting a recurve bow were backwards... Good thing it's alluminium and not wood, otherwise I would need a new bow
4:29 vikings had takedown recurve bows with threaded inserts for sights? TIL.
Mines okay I had a take down recurve bow a compound bow in a carry case
I allways use stringkeepers and bowsleeves
For now atleast I take my bow apart as it is a takedown and I have to transport it to the range, when I'm done shooting I unstring it, put the limbs off and a string in the bow bag.
I think you're giving Hollywood too much credit lol
I'm certain it was meant to be "fully strung" when they hung it there lol
My bow = fully disassembled and boxed
I string it backwards.. no damage.. no I’ll effects… In this age, though, there’s too much caution, misinformation and lack of knowledge that drive people to make unsubstantiated claims… which are, in fact, only opinions…🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
🙂👍🏻🇨🇦
nanotech.
It is not strung.
I keep 100% of the bows that are build like that in the same manner.
What I hate about Hawkeye is, in the movies, he pulls his bow with the hand rotated 180 degrees, as if he was shooting a compoundbow with a releaseaide. The same is done in the film AVATAR, and the new Predator film Prey, by a native american. Guess Americans obsessed with Compound bows, don´t know better.
She uses the bow to pole vault and bash people in the head. Does it really matter which way it is strung? Like... really?
Explain this one then: Hawkeye S1 Ep5 at 00:24:50 She's looking at her wall of trophies and fencing gear, there is a vertical hung bow, with its string on upside down! ..... unless shes shooting... 2 over and 1 under ^^ Cant deny the producers/editors ignorance/incompetence on this one lol. And in that case then that nocking point is just sheesh :P
In addition to weird details, in Avengers, Hawkeye's bow is a lefthanded bow but in this show it swaps between a left side cutout and a rightside cutout magically back AND forth... (Watch the xmas tree/iceskating park fightscene) Sometimes he loads the arrow on left side, suddenly next he's loading it on the right side... Very weird.
4:29 atleast when youre doing history types, hire someone knowledgable 😂
I have a takedown so I... take it down
I really think you are giving Hollywood too much credit here. Do you think they went through the same thought process as you about storing the bow long term etc? Or did they just give it to an intern or prop guy that knows nothing about bows, then just thought, that'll do? My money would be on the latter.
What bugs me most about the show is how cheap the bows are. The "Worlds Greatest Archers" using a Samick Sage?
Hell, I'm a hack and even I've got a Hoyt.
Hey, if the Energy Bow from Star Wars is two Geologic Initechs bolted together, they're doing pretty well.
@@NUSensei maybe lancaster and alternatives don't deliver to a galaxy far, far away, but they do to contemporary New York.
Clint uses a Hoyt and Kate uses a Bob Lee bow.