The flemish twist, is similar to what we use in deep sea fishing...usualy when our rope is parted and we have to twist and splice it together to give a strong bond again, this works better as opposed to a knot for the knot can catch or hook in pullies or hydraulic component and cause mechanical stress failure, or bodily harm. related to the Bow...it makes the strings Strong and vituially unbrakable at the join.
My current recurve had a very sharp edge on the limb tip indents. It was causing me to burn through strings very quickly, so I added a little piece of felt along the indent edge and voila!, no more loop fraying.
I love making Flemish twist strings more than endless loop strings to be honest, the process is much more enjoyable haha (I now run a company making and selling strings in Australia, and looking to expand my business further PS I love Kramer Ammons too, I learnt Flemish twist string making from him, and endless loop strings from you 😁
@@NUSensei AussieBowStrings is my company, and I do owe a huge thank you to you for your teachings through your string making playlist 👍 to show my appreciation for the information and time you provided, I would like to send you a free flemish twist and a free endless loop string as a thank you, if you would like it. Your choice of colours, up to 4 colour per string, all free of charge to show my support to you (not sure if that interests you as I know you can easily make your own strings)
Flemish twist loops are twice as thick as endless loop loops if you don't count the serving. This makes them slightly less efficient as they are heavier, but also a lot gentler on unreinforced wooden tips.
Flemish twist strings are so easy to make I used to make them using my bed diagonally from headboard to endboard, you don't need a jig, you just need to fixed points which are far enough apart.
I have made some of my Flemish twist strings on e door handle. What I most like about them - you can change their length if needed, untwisting one loop (or both) and making string longer or shorter.
I much prefer the look of the Flemish twist strings, since you can basically mix/match any colors. The only issue I find is that they tend to be a bit thicker in the nocking area and thus the arrow nock fits a little tighter than with an endless loop style string.
So why do Longbows, Asian bows (Mongolian, Turkish, Korean, etc) with long/large loops "always" use endless loop strings, if Flemish Twist strings are more common in traditional archery? Manufacturing costs? Practical question: Which has less stretch when used in other than ideal weather conditions? E.G.: It is raining or snowing while you are hunting? (or participating in an outdoor match, if it isn't postponed due to precipitation.) You forgot to mention an advantage of the Flemish Twist string: They are easier to twist to adjust the brace height.
They function the same. The difference is how they're made. Neither are hard to make, but endless loop requires more specific tools, whereas Flemish twist can mostly be done by hand. There's also something to be said about the aesthetics of a braided bowstring versus a served one, but that's subjective.
Flemish twist will always get longer with time. It is a bad thing. So do not get attached to Your nocking points. Wait till it will reach its final form. Or stretch it beforehand ...
No, it’s the string material not the method of making them. The only ways a Flemish string can get longer are if the laid-in loops slip or if the string material stretches. If it’s properly made and you keep the twists in the string the loops won’t slip. The main thing is that trad bows (which are more likely to have Flemish strings) are more likely to have strings made of Dacron or B55 which does stretch a lot more than the more high tech Fast Flight yarns more typically used for endless loop strings. Any string will stretch a little from new so always best to pre stretch them, whether endless or Flemish.
@@4d4m22 The loops do not slip. The twists get longer with the force of the bow (if it is not pre-stretched). I've seen this numerous of times in the club we have.
@@-fazik-3713 So if the twists get longer that is the string material stretching as I said, and not due to the string being Flemish twist. All strings should ideally be pre-stretched, but you can get away with it more with fastflight/dyneema strings.
@@4d4m22 Endless loop stretch as much as the material. Flemish twist stretches as much as the material AND more due to the fact that the whole string is twisted.
People refer to the string type as "Flemish" but its actually a reverse twist string. A "Flemish" loop or figure of eight knot (which its more commonly known as) which people refer to is really a type of knot. The term "Flemish" was associated with ropes and originated with the Belgian sailors and has been transferred to string making but the meaning has been changed through time to was we refer to today as a "Flemish" string 🙂
loved that hidden meme at the end of the video
The flemish twist, is similar to what we use in deep sea fishing...usualy when our rope is parted and we have to twist and splice it together to give a strong bond again, this works better as opposed to a knot for the knot can catch or hook in pullies or hydraulic component and cause mechanical stress failure, or bodily harm. related to the Bow...it makes the strings Strong and vituially unbrakable at the join.
Yes, an eye splice. Loads of different types used in sailing which could be used for smaller diameter 3 and 4 strand strings
Good to see again
Very good video. Keep them coming please 👍
Lovely video keep up the good work.🏹
flemish twist is just more aesthetically pleasing to look at
My current recurve had a very sharp edge on the limb tip indents. It was causing me to burn through strings very quickly, so I added a little piece of felt along the indent edge and voila!, no more loop fraying.
I love making Flemish twist strings more than endless loop strings to be honest, the process is much more enjoyable haha (I now run a company making and selling strings in Australia, and looking to expand my business further
PS I love Kramer Ammons too, I learnt Flemish twist string making from him, and endless loop strings from you 😁
Eeyyy let me know what your business is. Would love to plug Aussie bowstrings.
@@NUSensei AussieBowStrings is my company, and I do owe a huge thank you to you for your teachings through your string making playlist 👍 to show my appreciation for the information and time you provided, I would like to send you a free flemish twist and a free endless loop string as a thank you, if you would like it. Your choice of colours, up to 4 colour per string, all free of charge to show my support to you (not sure if that interests you as I know you can easily make your own strings)
Send me an email and we'll arrange something.
Flemish twist loops are twice as thick as endless loop loops if you don't count the serving. This makes them slightly less efficient as they are heavier, but also a lot gentler on unreinforced wooden tips.
Flemish twist strings are so easy to make I used to make them using my bed diagonally from headboard to endboard, you don't need a jig, you just need to fixed points which are far enough apart.
As a noob. This video could have come earlier for me. I now have several apperantly good flemishes for no reason lol.
I have made some of my Flemish twist strings on e door handle. What I most like about them - you can change their length if needed, untwisting one loop (or both) and making string longer or shorter.
I much prefer the look of the Flemish twist strings, since you can basically mix/match any colors. The only issue I find is that they tend to be a bit thicker in the nocking area and thus the arrow nock fits a little tighter than with an endless loop style string.
So why do Longbows, Asian bows (Mongolian, Turkish, Korean, etc) with long/large loops "always" use endless loop strings, if Flemish Twist strings are more common in traditional archery? Manufacturing costs?
Practical question: Which has less stretch when used in other than ideal weather conditions? E.G.: It is raining or snowing while you are hunting? (or participating in an outdoor match, if it isn't postponed due to precipitation.)
You forgot to mention an advantage of the Flemish Twist string: They are easier to twist to adjust the brace height.
Flemish means from Flanders which is the name for the Dutch speaking part of Belgium .Good morning from Flanders everyone .
yup, funny when we get mentioned online.
What's the benefit of using one kind of string over the other? Is there any specific reason to choose either flemish or endless?
They function the same. The difference is how they're made. Neither are hard to make, but endless loop requires more specific tools, whereas Flemish twist can mostly be done by hand. There's also something to be said about the aesthetics of a braided bowstring versus a served one, but that's subjective.
A "Flemish" string would theoretically use less raw material. Other than that, personal preference, really.
@@NUSensei Somebody is spamming this comment section in your name mate
Flemish twist will always get longer with time. It is a bad thing. So do not get attached to Your nocking points. Wait till it will reach its final form. Or stretch it beforehand ...
No, it’s the string material not the method of making them. The only ways a Flemish string can get longer are if the laid-in loops slip or if the string material stretches. If it’s properly made and you keep the twists in the string the loops won’t slip. The main thing is that trad bows (which are more likely to have Flemish strings) are more likely to have strings made of Dacron or B55 which does stretch a lot more than the more high tech Fast Flight yarns more typically used for endless loop strings. Any string will stretch a little from new so always best to pre stretch them, whether endless or Flemish.
@@4d4m22 The loops do not slip. The twists get longer with the force of the bow (if it is not pre-stretched). I've seen this numerous of times in the club we have.
@@-fazik-3713 So if the twists get longer that is the string material stretching as I said, and not due to the string being Flemish twist. All strings should ideally be pre-stretched, but you can get away with it more with fastflight/dyneema strings.
@@4d4m22 Endless loop stretch as much as the material. Flemish twist stretches as much as the material AND more due to the fact that the whole string is twisted.
@@-fazik-3713 Negligible. The stretch is due to the material
People refer to the string type as "Flemish" but its actually a reverse twist string. A "Flemish" loop or figure of eight knot (which its more commonly known as) which people refer to is really a type of knot. The term "Flemish" was associated with ropes and originated with the Belgian sailors and has been transferred to string making but the meaning has been changed through time to was we refer to today as a "Flemish" string 🙂
This!
Why is the additional thread used on an endless loop string called a serving?
The term dates from long ago, and is used to describe the method of protecting a rope or cable by covering it with another rope material.
Hey sensei. Are you doing a popshots video for far cry 6