What I liked most about this movie was it brought sympathy to the character. Pinhead did have goodness left him in, in the form of Captain Spencer. I liked the entire duality of the character, and at the end how he let himself merge back with Pinhead to essentially save her.
@@mercenaryknight5419 nah. The captain and the hell priest were both halves of Pinhead, but they weren’t equal sized halves. There’s a reason ones running rampant and the other is in limbo. There was more evil in there then good. But adding that good back doesn’t get you Elliot, it just gets you pinhead.
@@kagato23 I like to think that once they merged, it wasn't the classic Pinhead of the first two movies, but a more diabolical Pinhead who wasn't quite as crazed as in Hellraiser III but was less fair and more interested in being unbound again(using the building as a permanent gateway).
@@kagato23 At least at first, and again, Pinhead gets crippled with the Lament Configuration staked through his heart so with that Eliot would likely be able to re-assert control with a little time.
Elliott is my favourite character in "Hellraiser" -- how can I resist Doug in uniform?! Yes, the film wasn't great, but I did enjoy it -- primarily because it's a film about my favourite character. However, I didn't really like Joey; I wanted Kirsty, in fact HR3 was originally written for Kirsty, but Ashley Laurence couldn't make it. :(
Perhaps maybe it was due to Ashley’s major role in the film Mikey I think they filmed at the same time therefore she didn’t have much time and could only do that guest appearance she did for that unseen interview in Hellraiser II
Thank you for this upload. I have always believed Doug Bradley is one of the most underrated actors in the business. He could have played so many other characters, but the film industry does not see actors as things that can inhabit more than just one skin. Doug is one of the few that can and does emanate a sense of something other than the habitual "ac-tor". He proved it by playing two halves of the same man. Both hero and monster in Elliot and Pinhead. I'll also never forget his Lylesburg from "Nightbreed" either. Together Doug and Clive created one "hell" of a wonder in Pinhead. Thanks for posting this insight into his character.
To me, it made it so it didn't make sense that he would help Kirsty and Tiffany upon remembering who he was. In the comic, he was every bit the monster Channard was, yet he sacrificed himself to save people he barely knew?
I agree. It was a stupid choice they did for shock factor and nothing else. Everything prior to his reveal as an awful human being had a lot of potential, I think. Good thing all the miserable writing and poor plot points are easily ignorable.
@@axebomber2108ONLY those individuals who he thought were "worthy". What the movies failed to show was his life BEFORE the war. The movies NEVER discussed who this Man truly was. Even "good" men have dark sides, and even "bad" men can love their countries. In the comics he went to War to avoid se*ually grooming/abusing his daughter. He was a degenerate & he not only KNEW IT, he REVELED IN IT. Instead he willingly removed himself from the Family household, and went as far away as he could, (to WAR) to spare her his evil. In the movies, he helped save at least 3 women in whom he saw characteristics he admired, and wanted to preserve. Such as his Daughter's innocence. With Kirsty, and Tiffany at least demonstrating a "unbridled strength" and an "unwillingness to just accept" the hands the fates had dealt them without fighting back... as was alluded to in the Hellraiser novel "The Toll" in his conversation with Kirsty that takes place after episode 2. PERHAPS, the vile degenerate from the comics, and the cinematic depiction of Captain Spencer aren't THAT different, in that if he "Spencer" recognized qualities he believed to be worth preserving, perhaps qualities he WISHED he possessed, he would put himself in harm's way in order to preserve/defend them. Despite, or perhaps BECAUSE of his own mental, emotional, or spiritual shortcomings or complete absences thereof... An abused individual sometimes abuses others, even though they KNOW they hated being abused themselves... PERHAPS the movie depiction of Spencer was us simply gaining the last few glimpses of those few remaining remnants of humanity, without giving us the CONTEXT or perspective as to WHY he so selflessly defended/saved the characters that he did. I truly enjoyed the Hellraiser novels, movies, and comics. I hope that Barker's other creations the "Tortured Souls" finally has a story written about them, so we can better understand how they fit into Hell's pantheon, so as to continue to explore the lore of this "Barkerverse". 🙂✌
This entry has it's critics and I know I'm in a minority here, but this is actually my favorite Hellraiser film. We learn a great deal more about Elliott Spencer/Pinhead and I liked the duality this film brought to him, making him much more of a layered character. Joey is my favorite character of the series too and a big part of the reason I like this entry so much, really unfortunate she never returned for another installment. This entry is epic in it's own right.
@@Lament-qm8ig Always cool to meet a fellow Hellraiser III fan. This movie really made Spencer and Pinhead so much more of a character than any of the others.
Did you know that during the Hellraiser wrap parties, nobody talked to him at first because most of the cast and crew only saw him in the Pinhead makeup and costume?
Despite his sadistic desires pinhead still held onto that compassionate man he once was even though his memories were erased, Elliott Spencer still lived on, and was the only thing that was keeping pinhead somewhat neutral
Doug Bradley isn't nearly as good at playing Spencer as he is at playing Pinhead. The scene in Hellraiser II where Pinhead reverted to Spencer before Channard killed him was my favourite in the series. I think Spencer actually reclaimed his humanity then BEFORE he died, which is why his ghost is free and the immortal demon acts on its own.
They really did Elliot bad in the boom comic, In the films he was a good man who was destroyed by the war, But in the comic they just made him a degenerate from the start, much less intreasting.
Well, the original ending of "Hellbound" was Julia coming out as QUEEN of Hell/Labyrinth; that was Clive Barker's and Tony Randel's intention. (And, no, I don't believe it was Barker's intention for an entire franchise; he simply wanted to make a movie of his work that was good and scary.) Instead, we have the Pillar of Souls due to the popularity of Pinhead. But, yes, I agree that anything "Hellraiser" envolves the box (any the boxes really), the cenobites, and the mythos. :D
Although it has had the whole HR2 flashback sequence taken out. The India scene and several others were removed from the initial home video releases, despite being fairly innocuous.
Actually, the films were meant to be about Julia. She was going to be the BIG MONSTER, but the fans latched on to Pinhead instead of Julia. (Also, it was originally called the "Hellbound Heart"; the executives wanted the name changed to "Hellraiser", not Clive Barker...
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 this is the first time I've ever seen the India scene. They don't have it in the version on HBO Max. I've seen this movie so many times and never seen that part.
Well, understand that the films have been passed to hand and hand. If Clive Barker did the entire franchise, it would have turned out different, but I'll answer this the best I can: Elliott never really "died" in a true since as Pinhead. According to the comics, Elliott was selected to be a host of one of the spiritial, parasitic Leviathan's children, Xipe Totec (best-known as the Aztec God of Life-Death-Rebirth), as a result became Pinhead. (cont.)
By the end of HR3, Xipe Totec and Elliott are battling for the possession of the body; they eventually resolve this -- this is probably why Pinhead seems different in the sequels than he was in the first two films. ;) (end.)
The Box is one of HUNDREDS of windows to Hell. It could have been that Xipe wants to destory ALL the windows, destroying the Lament Confirguation was only the first in a bigger game. The only way to stop Xipe is to trick him to come to Limbo and that Elliott's soul that to merge back into Xipe Totec (creating Pinhead we know and love). (cont.)
@@Dukesparrow1999 hellraiser bloodline was great the extended version with all the missing scenes make the movie watchable and a worhy ending to the franchise
In HR2, Channard removed Xipe Totec, thus became only Elliott. Channard killed the Elliott (who, at heart, is a good man that did some "evil" things) and his soul went to Limbo. His body, however, was left to Xipe Totec. Without Elliott (whose Pinhead's conscious of a sorts), Xipe Totec (aka: Unbound Pinhead) went on a rampage! Xipe doesn't want to sent back to Hell; he wants to retain his freedom, thus destory the Box. This is a stupid idea actually. (cont.)
I mean that in the copy/version of Hellraiser III that i have that India scene isnt there. Its a shot of Elliot first opening the Lament Configuration.
I have the non-Anchor Bay edition of the DVD. From what I understand, Anchor Bay doesn't have the copyright to release HR3 in Region 1 for some odd reason, yet they can overseas. You have no idea how jealous I am about the Region 2 Lament Configuration box set; unfortunately, we don't have that here! Your box set also has more special features than we do. HR3 DVD is very bare bones; it's has no documentary or a commentary.
Yeah, the India scene isn't in my copy of the film either -- VHS or DVD. This must be the foreign edition because it's definitely not in the American version.
You know, the HR3 DVD I have said it was a special edition and there's nothing on it. So...I take it I should have a duel player DVD in order to get the HR3 commentary and extra footage?
The thing to me about this series and part of the reason I tend to avoid it: a lot of the cenobites maybe don’t deserve all that. They are just lost, tormented people themselves. Just my theory.
Doesn't Pinhead have some sorta power that allows him to control people? Why doesn't he just make someone give him the box, saves a load of trouble. I'm new to this movie.
1. Doug is a fine actor who deserved and deserves more opportunities. 2. The idea of Pinhead having an evil and a good side, or a human and demonic side, is a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire Barker cosmos. If Barker's fantasy metaphysics has one core belief, it is the rejection of all dichotomies such as good and evil, male and female, human and other, mind and body. It's all a continuum for him; there are no divisions, only degrees. The cenobites are not 'evil' they are just grossly excessive by human standards. This idea, that there is no two, but only one, is such a difficult idea for most people to accept that whole civilizations have risen an fallen without one person noticing it. Judeo Christianity is utterly wrong about this: only the Zen masters have come close to perceiving the actual fabric of reality as it sees itself through human mind, which is itself.
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What I liked most about this movie was it brought sympathy to the character. Pinhead did have goodness left him in, in the form of Captain Spencer. I liked the entire duality of the character, and at the end how he let himself merge back with Pinhead to essentially save her.
And it seems like he would be in control afterwards given Pinhead gets crippled with the Configuration shanked through him,
@@mercenaryknight5419 nah. The captain and the hell priest were both halves of Pinhead, but they weren’t equal sized halves. There’s a reason ones running rampant and the other is in limbo. There was more evil in there then good. But adding that good back doesn’t get you Elliot, it just gets you pinhead.
@@kagato23 I like to think that once they merged, it wasn't the classic Pinhead of the first two movies, but a more diabolical Pinhead who wasn't quite as crazed as in Hellraiser III but was less fair and more interested in being unbound again(using the building as a permanent gateway).
Agreed. He separated the evil in him to save Kirsty and he had to merge back with it to be able to let Joey go and save her.
@@kagato23 At least at first, and again, Pinhead gets crippled with the Lament Configuration staked through his heart so with that Eliot would likely be able to re-assert control with a little time.
An English gentleman, pardom a british gentleman
Both are correct, but i would say "English" gentleman in British Army uniform.
Doug Bradley very good actor. i met him at a film convention really nice guy
Elliott is my favourite character in "Hellraiser" -- how can I resist Doug in uniform?! Yes, the film wasn't great, but I did enjoy it -- primarily because it's a film about my favourite character. However, I didn't really like Joey; I wanted Kirsty, in fact HR3 was originally written for Kirsty, but Ashley Laurence couldn't make it. :(
why didn't she could? firsti time i hear about this anyway, thanks
It happens.
Perhaps maybe it was due to Ashley’s major role in the film Mikey I think they filmed at the same time therefore she didn’t have much time and could only do that guest appearance she did for that unseen interview in Hellraiser II
Doug is just so damn charming as Spencer. His natural speaking voice is lovely too.
Doug bradley you are one hot tamale! that uniform looks smashing
Thank you for this upload. I have always believed Doug Bradley is one of the most underrated actors in the business. He could have played so many other characters, but the film industry does not see actors as things that can inhabit more than just one skin. Doug is one of the few that can and does emanate a sense of something other than the habitual "ac-tor". He proved it by playing two halves of the same man. Both hero and monster in Elliot and Pinhead. I'll also never forget his Lylesburg from "Nightbreed" either. Together Doug and Clive created one "hell" of a wonder in Pinhead. Thanks for posting this insight into his character.
He has the most beautiful hands😍💗
You can tell how Elliot is the antithesis of Pinhead.
I think they screwed up Elliot Spencer's character in the comics. They made Elliot Spencer as a man that was an evil and nothing more.
Very true, a good man lost to war was far more intreasting then just another bad guy
To me, it made it so it didn't make sense that he would help Kirsty and Tiffany upon remembering who he was. In the comic, he was every bit the monster Channard was, yet he sacrificed himself to save people he barely knew?
I agree. It was a stupid choice they did for shock factor and nothing else. Everything prior to his reveal as an awful human being had a lot of potential, I think. Good thing all the miserable writing and poor plot points are easily ignorable.
@@axebomber2108ONLY those individuals who he thought were "worthy".
What the movies failed to show was his life BEFORE the war. The movies NEVER discussed who this Man truly was.
Even "good" men have dark sides, and even "bad" men can love their countries.
In the comics he went to War to avoid se*ually grooming/abusing his daughter. He was a degenerate & he not only KNEW IT, he REVELED IN IT. Instead he willingly removed himself from the Family household, and went as far away as he could, (to WAR) to spare her his evil.
In the movies, he helped save at least 3 women in whom he saw characteristics he admired, and wanted to preserve. Such as his Daughter's innocence. With Kirsty, and Tiffany at least demonstrating a "unbridled strength" and an "unwillingness to just accept" the hands the fates had dealt them without fighting back... as was alluded to in the Hellraiser novel "The Toll" in his conversation with Kirsty that takes place after episode 2.
PERHAPS, the vile degenerate from the comics, and the cinematic depiction of Captain Spencer aren't THAT different, in that if he "Spencer" recognized qualities he believed to be worth preserving, perhaps qualities he WISHED he possessed, he would put himself in harm's way in order to preserve/defend them. Despite, or perhaps BECAUSE of his own mental, emotional, or spiritual shortcomings or complete absences thereof...
An abused individual sometimes abuses others, even though they KNOW they hated being abused themselves... PERHAPS the movie depiction of Spencer was us simply gaining the last few glimpses of those few remaining remnants of humanity, without giving us the CONTEXT or perspective as to WHY he so selflessly defended/saved the characters that he did.
I truly enjoyed the Hellraiser novels, movies, and comics.
I hope that Barker's other creations the "Tortured Souls" finally has a story written about them, so we can better understand how they fit into Hell's pantheon, so as to continue to explore the lore of this "Barkerverse".
🙂✌
I love Elliott! Yes, he looks gorgeous!
Doug Bradley was best pinhead ever
This entry has it's critics and I know I'm in a minority here, but this is actually my favorite Hellraiser film. We learn a great deal more about Elliott Spencer/Pinhead and I liked the duality this film brought to him, making him much more of a layered character. Joey is my favorite character of the series too and a big part of the reason I like this entry so much, really unfortunate she never returned for another installment. This entry is epic in it's own right.
Hellraiser 3 is my favorite of the Hellraiser movies as well. My favorite character is Elliott Spenser.
@@Lament-qm8ig Always cool to meet a fellow Hellraiser III fan. This movie really made Spencer and Pinhead so much more of a character than any of the others.
Damn! Pinhead is hot when he takes off his makeup!
I love Elliot as a character in the films. But I hate how the authors of comics have changed his character in a new comic book series.
Doug Bradley, raWR. You look smokin' in that uniform. Then again, he looks smokin' as Pinhead too.
Did you know that during the Hellraiser wrap parties, nobody talked to him at first because most of the cast and crew only saw him in the Pinhead makeup and costume?
@@victorrain I did NOT know that. Wow.
I've never seen anyone reply to comments made 11 years after they originally posted.
This is "The Nightmare on Elm Street" vibe. 'Luv it.
Despite his sadistic desires pinhead still held onto that compassionate man he once was even though his memories were erased, Elliott Spencer still lived on, and was the only thing that was keeping pinhead somewhat neutral
Elliot Spencer has the box and he became Pinhead the leader of the Cenobites
Hot woman...before the dark times...before the clown eyebrows trend.
good i love doug Bradley's voice thanks for posting this!
Doug Bradley isn't nearly as good at playing Spencer as he is at playing Pinhead.
The scene in Hellraiser II where Pinhead reverted to Spencer before Channard killed him was my favourite in the series. I think Spencer actually reclaimed his humanity then BEFORE he died, which is why his ghost is free and the immortal demon acts on its own.
She was probably thinking, Greeeeat... theres a gateway to hell in my apartment. The insurance company is never going to believe this... lol.
This came out last year the same year as Encino Man and Amityville Horror It's About Time before Terry Farrell is in Hellraiser 3.
I love him so much.
"What is your pleasure Sir?"
"Take It - Its Yours - It Always Was"
I love that I recently found out that Captain Spenser (or Spencer I've seen it both ways) is meant to be Joey's subtle love interest.
As an English name it would be Spencer
It makes sense when you rember the role was meant for kirsty cotton
Elliot (Pinhead) and Al (Spawn) should get together and have a drink.
Him and Capt Blackadder
No doubt the hell priest is one of mcfarlanes source of inspiration on his abilities
"Where is the door to hell?"
"In your apartment..."
:P
How cool. Pinhead and Elliot had the best one liners in the Hellraiser series. Very frank and crude.
The way Elliott gently touches Joey's cheek was so sweet
They really did Elliot bad in the boom comic, In the films he was a good man who was destroyed by the war, But in the comic they just made him a degenerate from the start, much less intreasting.
This is one of my favourite scenes in the franchise given who...or what Elliott becomes
JADEZA DAX!
I wish Elliot could've met Kirsty instead.
Technically they do meet at the end of Hellbound.
Originally the role was for kirsty but the actress was booked
Well, the original ending of "Hellbound" was Julia coming out as QUEEN of Hell/Labyrinth; that was Clive Barker's and Tony Randel's intention. (And, no, I don't believe it was Barker's intention for an entire franchise; he simply wanted to make a movie of his work that was good and scary.) Instead, we have the Pillar of Souls due to the popularity of Pinhead. But, yes, I agree that anything "Hellraiser" envolves the box (any the boxes really), the cenobites, and the mythos. :D
Also, Clare Higgins chose not to come back as Julia.
At an accurate guess I must have watched this clip you uploaded just under 1000 times so this is me saying thanks for uploading it.
Saw all three HRI HRII HRIII in the theater and I remember this scene in the theatrical release.
GASP! New scene! Never seen that scene, although it's in the script. I love how direct Elliott is about his deviant past.
Huh? It's in the movie.
Although it has had the whole HR2 flashback sequence taken out.
The India scene and several others were removed from the initial home video releases, despite being fairly innocuous.
ah he seems nice!!:)
Actually, the films were meant to be about Julia. She was going to be the BIG MONSTER, but the fans latched on to Pinhead instead of Julia. (Also, it was originally called the "Hellbound Heart"; the executives wanted the name changed to "Hellraiser", not Clive Barker...
The window was a dream so pinhead thought he was tricking her in a dream but Elliott actually tricked pinhead.
Me habría gustado que en las demás películas apareciera él personaje del capitán. Esta es mi película favorita de Hellraiser
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😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 this is the first time I've ever seen the India scene. They don't have it in the version on HBO Max. I've seen this movie so many times and never seen that part.
I still think he should have played three roles in Hellraiser 1and two, that would be Frank Cotton, Pinhead, and Eliot Spencer.
Well, understand that the films have been passed to hand and hand. If Clive Barker did the entire franchise, it would have turned out different, but I'll answer this the best I can: Elliott never really "died" in a true since as Pinhead. According to the comics, Elliott was selected to be a host of one of the spiritial, parasitic Leviathan's children, Xipe Totec (best-known as the Aztec God of Life-Death-Rebirth), as a result became Pinhead. (cont.)
Oh, ok. That clears up a bit of it.
By the end of HR3, Xipe Totec and Elliott are battling for the possession of the body; they eventually resolve this -- this is probably why Pinhead seems different in the sequels than he was in the first two films. ;) (end.)
Good Guy Lucifer vs Bad Guy Satan 😂
The Box is one of HUNDREDS of windows to Hell. It could have been that Xipe wants to destory ALL the windows, destroying the Lament Confirguation was only the first in a bigger game. The only way to stop Xipe is to trick him to come to Limbo and that Elliott's soul that to merge back into Xipe Totec (creating Pinhead we know and love). (cont.)
Had some minor flaws, but still a worthy Hellraiser entry, and a lot of fun.
Hellraiser
Hellraiser 2 Hellbound
Hellraiser 3: Hell on Earth
Hellraiser 2022
That's my canon
@@Dukesparrow1999 hellraiser bloodline was great the extended version with all the missing scenes make the movie watchable and a worhy ending to the franchise
What happened to Terry Farrell, Is she okay? Her next shows was Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
They cut out the India scene in the theatrical version, didn't they? I hadn't seen it before.
It's in the German red edition.
In HR2, Channard removed Xipe Totec, thus became only Elliott. Channard killed the Elliott (who, at heart, is a good man that did some "evil" things) and his soul went to Limbo. His body, however, was left to Xipe Totec. Without Elliott (whose Pinhead's conscious of a sorts), Xipe Totec (aka: Unbound Pinhead) went on a rampage! Xipe doesn't want to sent back to Hell; he wants to retain his freedom, thus destory the Box. This is a stupid idea actually. (cont.)
question the scene where they're in India was that on the special edition?? cuz it's not on my 2011 release
This our dominion
it was. in an early version of the script was a hint of sex between them.
Why?
It was what?
@Izziepalooza28 yeah that's her. it's in her filmography
I mean that in the copy/version of Hellraiser III that i have that India scene isnt there. Its a shot of Elliot first opening the Lament Configuration.
So, when you play Battlefield 1 to much, you turn into a Cenobyte...
I have the non-Anchor Bay edition of the DVD. From what I understand, Anchor Bay doesn't have the copyright to release HR3 in Region 1 for some odd reason, yet they can overseas. You have no idea how jealous I am about the Region 2 Lament Configuration box set; unfortunately, we don't have that here! Your box set also has more special features than we do. HR3 DVD is very bare bones; it's has no documentary or a commentary.
Yeah, the India scene isn't in my copy of the film either -- VHS or DVD. This must be the foreign edition because it's definitely not in the American version.
You know, the HR3 DVD I have said it was a special edition and there's nothing on it. So...I take it I should have a duel player DVD in order to get the HR3 commentary and extra footage?
I'll try.
What is the point of pinhead and captain Elliott Spencer to
Where'd the shot of them in India come from?
This movie shows how U.S. cinema can easly destroy something good.
The thing to me about this series and part of the reason I tend to avoid it: a lot of the cenobites maybe don’t deserve all that. They are just lost, tormented people themselves. Just my theory.
So was making him good in the end of number 2. Just brought the evil version back again?
Please he was never good
Doesn't Pinhead have some sorta power that allows him to control people? Why doesn't he just make someone give him the box, saves a load of trouble.
I'm new to this movie.
IS THAT JADZIA DAX?!?
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
*swoon*
Is that Jadzia Dax?
for some reason they remind me of professor x and jean grey
Lmao
Is "Pinhead" actually "Agent Smith"?
this is the only good scene in the movie
Gabriel Bishop c joeys dress fall off. What sighhts they ll show uuuuuuuuuuuuuuui
Is
Pinhead, was sexy, really?! Is that some kind of sick joke?
1. Doug is a fine actor who deserved and deserves more opportunities.
2. The idea of Pinhead having an evil and a good side, or a human and demonic side, is a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire Barker cosmos. If Barker's fantasy metaphysics has one core belief, it is the rejection of all dichotomies such as good and evil, male and female, human and other, mind and body. It's all a continuum for him; there are no divisions, only degrees. The cenobites are not 'evil' they are just grossly excessive by human standards.
This idea, that there is no two, but only one, is such a difficult idea for most people to accept that whole civilizations have risen an fallen without one person noticing it. Judeo Christianity is utterly wrong about this: only the Zen masters have come close to perceiving the actual fabric of reality as it sees itself through human mind, which is itself.
It was not so much Pinhead that had a dark side, but rather Elliot Spencer himself. The cenobites are not evil because they have humanity in them.
maybe the worst actor in the entire series, bar none. even the ridiculous later ones had far more competent acting. at least paula's acting was good.