Be me: -Makes Paladin's Oath be his wedding vows. -Wife dies. -Paladin goes on an epic quest to resurrect his wife. -The oath gives him strength because it symbolizes his love and connection to his wife, so long as he keeps his oath there is hope of reuniting with his wife in this mortal plane.
I mean, if you get a succubuss to fall for you and kiss you you become a vampire. Good explanation for high cha, the superpowers that come with vampires are op and it gives you a cool excuse to be an oath breaker:
I once DM'd a science fantasy campaign where one of my players played a half-orc paladin who swore an oath of conquest... against germs. He was the janitor on the spaceship the party was employed on. He originally started out with a mop that he could wield like a quarterstaff.
That is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard of. I'm speechless at this beautiful display of creativity. Bravo to the daring soul who made this dude 👏👏👏
I’ve heard a story about a a OCD (cleric?) . After fights she would pull out a broom and dustpan out of a bag of holding and cleaned up everything and put the dirt into the bag. When they got to the big bad she just filled the bag inside out and buried it a ton dirt, bodies, and everything else in there.
Immortal Bacon Haha, this is my first time playing a Paladin... I’m kinda new, haha. But my character is a Moon Goddess incarnate named; Rehtaeh. The whole purpose of her character is to get big, destroy the cursed relics that are causing not only this world, but ALSO causing her Sister-Goddess pain. Then she is meant to re-ascend into the heavens when the mission is over, and go back to being just a side-goddess. But... because the ritual that was supposed to bring her into the world much sooner was screwed up, she ended up getting trapped inside the body of a child, and losing her memories. She then remained asleep for thousands of years until being awaken by the current party members. Lots of crap went down after her awakening, and now she has a platonic older brother named Theren, he’s an elf and also kind of the leader of the group. She also AGED up, because magic capsules apparently exist? So now she’s a big girl, and I’m pretty sure Theren sees her as a bit more than a SISTER now. SWEEEET HOME ALABAMA
My first DM: "I think Paladins are boring." Me, 2 years after being told that, playing an evil Paladin with a greatsword buffed with radiant damage, and role-playing as what is basically a Sith Lord: "Then you are lost!"
Ye cool, but it just makes me sad, that everytime someone thinks of epic or interesting paladin, they mean dark or evil or anything just not the good paladin
Vork Nullom Because non dark/evil Paladins r boring af. It’s y oathbreaker is the only subclass I like of Paladin cause I feel like their is so much more u can do to make the character interesting.
Well, warlocks bargain, like "naaaah, you have to give me a better offer than this crap". Paladin is like "shut up and take my soul". Some level of difference there :D
Warlock is more like a job... actually is just like a job you sacrifice your time happiness, family relationship but guess what, you have a *good dental health insurance*!
It depends on the Warlock Patron and the DM. Theoretically, if your Patron is a Great Old One they may not even truly realize you exist. They may think you are merely a dream or something like that. Another theoretical possible occurrence is you eliminate your patron & absorb all their power becoming something else.
One of the ways I played a paladin was I made him the "judge jury and executioner" of his diety and his sole reason to stay with the party was to travel and find those that opposed his diety. Queue a random npc that casually disapproved of my God and my character shot him the meanest glare and the party all collectively went "oh fuck someone stop the paladin from committing murder in the middle of daylight"
Agreed. There was a point where the party's leader was gonna kill someone who was spying on us to try and get out of a really fucked up Thieves Guild, something his sister was trying as well. So after some time of trying to stop him, eventually stepped aside and told him that her blood would be on everyone's hands, not just his own.
Chaotic good is so much more fun than being Mr goody two shoes. You can be the crazy zealot who follows his oath. But is ok with bending the law or looking the other way. Plus if you dumpster intelligence your party can convince your *character* of distract him pretty easily. So you can be a crazy DEUS VULT" without Nessicarily being a detriment to the party
Then ask your dm why there isn't more heavier consequence for just being murder hobos? You can legitimately do this. If their killing civilians. make it harder for them to get away without penalty, like more guards or tough situations if they resort to violence, instead of simply using role playing skills. Make the players know there are more options then just violence, but if they always wish to do so and it's against your character. You have to either opt out the paladin from the party and play something else as the party isn't lawful good or the campaign narrative could call for more darker moral choices. OR, Push the narrative of doing good and actually chastise the parties actions, get them locked up or have them arrested by your Paladin. Do what a paladin should do. Stop evil people from doing evil things, or don't be a paladin. Unless you wanna play same evil paladin? idk lol
@@NoManLP The thing is, in a party of murderhobos, the Lawful Good Paladin IS the problem player. The rest of the group has agreed on a playstyle, which his character concept simply isn't compatible with.
> Be Paladin > Forsake personal gain > Party enters gambling tournament > Win the pot > 2.5 million gold > party celebrates that we're now super rich and can buy all the maxed gear > Donate all of it to charity > Party decides to steal the money from the charity > Murder entire party to death > Because Paladin.
As a LN paladin i once hitkilled an allied hexblade. In the backstory he is doesn't really deal well with warlocks, in the roleplay, the dude who were playing the warlock was leaving the group, so we made so that i asked him about his prowess in combat, finally knowing he was a warlock the whole time. My character didn't want to kill his friend, but his oath was more important than his personal willing. And with this we could bring some development to my character while also resolving the issue with the (now) playerless warlock character
Funny thing is that my only paladin character is this cinnamon bun drow named Indigo. Her lay on hands comes in the form of hugs. She’s a delight to play.
And a paladin is only a half caster, so they run out so fast if you want to simply be effective in battle when a rogue can keep going and going, turn after turn with no end with their sneak attacks in comparison.
This. Paladins are only half-casters, so spell slots aren't a resource to be taken lightly. If you have more than one combat per in-game day, which you *really* should, odds are the Paladin is going to have to start thinking tactically about which enemies really deserve that kick in the goolies. A Rogue, by comparison, gets to add *their* kick to the goolies to pretty much every attack they make, even if there's nothing but combat for an in-game hour (600 rounds). That said, this video is parody and kind-of-deliberately goes on a surface reading. Check the Warlock class guide by this same person, that one makes it as obvious as it can be.
@@JohnvanCapel Rogues never get more than 1 attack per round, no matter their level, to balance Sneak Attack only having an opportunity cost. What does this have to do with Divine Smite again?
@@Darkkfated Because in both cases, it's "extra" damage on top of an attack. A Rogue's single Sneak Attack lets them outpace a Greatsword Fighter at most levels, and a Greatsword Paladin pretty much always when they're not Smiting. Smite lets the Paladin deal more damage than the Rogue, but at a resource cost.
"Open up your eyes and pray to the mother of dawn; she spells a poem that translates into hold on" Dang can I steal that Jacob that was rather profound
5:01 that is EXACTLY what happened with my Paladin. She cast Divine Sense to confirm that the baddy in front of us was an undead and the DM informed us that she sensed another undead as well- DIRECTLY to her left. *stares at party's new human-looking artificer* Irony? She's an aasimar in disguise herself, who was effectively outed to the party by an NPC from her backstory not long afterwards, so she confronted him about it quietly and they ended up hardcore bonding over shared secrets. (also, that NPC that outed her is who her Oath of Vengeance is sworn against. She used to have wings and he cut them off, so she's after him and the cult he's in too. The campaign is Norse themed, so her deity is Freyja and her angelic guide is a valkyrie. And whenever she finally gets her hands on that guy, well... "If you wanted MY wings so badly, I'll give you some Blood Eagle wings of your own!") (DON'T google what a Blood Eagle unless you're prepared for gore, by the way)
My Paladin follows Tyr so the Celestial she summons using Find Steed is a Valkyrie named Svava. My paladin always summons her into the form of a giant snake 🐍 because a giant snake mount is super awesome! In character it’s because her family believes she’s a traitorous, lying, kinslaying snake so she’s pulling a Jafar going “A *snake* am I?!”
@@astolenusername7675 I know, but I really like to play the one "normal guy" in a group full of magical/supernatural beings. It creates a really cool dynamic. Also, I like the ability to hold your own against all kinds of foes with just a sword and your wits. No magic or divine assistance necessary. (Yes, I know about Eldritch Knights. My favorite specifically is the Battlemaster archetype.)
@somerandomguy009, Yeah, that's such a draw in for the fighter. I remember somebody putting it into a great phrase: "Fighter is the most badass class of all, because he looked at this world or elven mages, demons and dragons, looked at his sword, and was like 'yep, that'll be enough' "
The other day I got the idea for a tiefling magical girl and so I ended up looking at the Paladin class for the first time and I think an orphan handmaiden from a temple of the goddess Sune who discovers she can channel divine powers and goes on a quest to protect love and beauty could be amazing. The theatricality that inherently comes with a Paladin of Devotion is perfect for a magical girl who is constantly shouting out the names of all her attacks while posing and launching longwinded threats at her enemies.
@@anasexualdragonwithinterne2912 I ended up playing the character in a doomed campaign. For the couple of sessions it lasted it was a blast for me. I really want to get into dnd more so I can play her at another table.
Oath of Conquest against fiends and demons? Maybe a backstory of how an arch devil murdered your town and left your puppy's head on a stake, in your rage you called upon the gods of conquest to grant you powers for vengeance, and now you are forever bound to kill any and all fiends and devils...... this sounds a lot more like Kratos.
I wanna play a paladin that starts out as a stereotypical hero, realizes that they aren't that special, and goes through a crisis where they have to re-evaluate their whole life and what they stand for. Juicy roleplay opportunities!
Gifted child syndrome. You were in all advanced and AP classes in high school then you went off to college and were totally average. You enter the workforce and realize that how well you did in sophomore English has little bearing on professional success. I dig it. Maybe a Paladin who leveled up to 3 or 4, then said 'fuck it' and became a fighter.
>Protection sucks I'm sorry, saving the squishy rogue archer with Lay on Hands, keeping that arrow from hitting him with my reaction, then healing him for another 14 HP with a lvl 2 cure wounds the next round while he blasts the enemy with sneak attack longbow shots totally sucks Yeah I'm mad, fite me irl bro I bet you kiss girls
Okay I know your mad about rogues and all but come on we ain't all bad it's just bad until we get to a decently high level but then we're killed by the GM Because we can sometimes become a little two OP(sometimes.......) And 2: I'm asexual btw so I sorta don't kiss girls 😅
@@schorfactor7000 which is why I tend to stay out of range of those big beefy dudes and just use magic along with my arrows to wear them down cause going in combat head on is an absolutely retarded idea for a rogue cause more times than not you'll be brutally impaled and dead on the ground faster than you can pick a lock
Im playing a Paladin of Conquest, and I LOVE playing him, he is apart of the church of basically a holy war deity, and he is the most well known paladin in his church, and he is known as Death’s Howl. He uses a great hammer that deploys wind magic to increase damage(aka rocket hammer), howls when he swings it and it’s how he got his name, he follows his church’s orders, to a T, it is his biggest flaw, most of the time, he’s used for their bidding, he’s light hearted when he’s not in combat, but when combat happens, no one is spared, ALL die, he empathizes with his enemies but he also pities them, he’s extremely fun and I get along with the party real well
@@Levyathyn Ignoring the fact that "magic knight" refers to classes that are both frontlines fighters and are adept with magic, fighters are absolutely knightly if you want them to be. They can wear heavy armor, use any weapon or shield, learn abilities that make them good at protecting their allies, and aren't restricted from being roleplayed as chivalrous and honorable. They also have a sub-class literally called Knight. Hexblade Warlocks can easily be flavored as mystical black knights, too.
Paladin is a fascinating and interesting class, but the issue with it is almost exactly what you pointed out; but rather than it problem being paladins being "supposed" to be LG, it's that nobody knows what LG is. Lawful Good does not always follow the law. It does not obey the law to a T. This is NL. Lawful good, instead, believes in the spirit of the law, that it was made to serve man and help society. In addition, it is character to character how a paladin can go about acting these beliefs out. Not everybody viciously blasts people with their beliefs, and the same should be said for paladins. When you play a paladin, focus not on the idea of lawful good (most people think party cop who starts attacking the rogue when they steal someones shit); focus on someone who wants to help people, because that is what the paladin is about. How do you help people? That is up to the oath. Devotion, and crown protect. Vengeance smites evil. Redemption redeems those willing. Keep this in mind and you'll create an incredible paladin. You don't even have to try and be evil and soil the name of paladins to do so, just work a little harder to actually understand the alignment system. Final thing: Paladins are not perfect. They will try (usually try their hardest) to do the best, or the right thing; but this means different things to many different people. Mistakes are only human. Or dwarven. Or orcish. Or whatever else. tl;df, none of the actually tenets of your oath, the "rules" you have to follow are that difficult to follow, nor should they cause the death of the party unless the player is playing them lawful stupid. You can make a very cool holy templar! But play them as an actual person rather than an angry, buff catholic. Give them real emotions and have them react as a normal person would to things.
Sagro123 Oh yeah. Personally, I always thought that the whole warrior for god thing was the cleric’s domain, and instead chose to look at paladin’s like people that have become so devoted to something that their sheer force of will awakens some innate magic kickass within their being, or some shit.
Question - what do you think of the Oath of Conquest? Purely evil, has potential to be more neutral? How would you go about looking at that oath? I find the idea that normal Conquest Paladins see Hell Knights (or Conquest Paladins who have devoted themselves to devils) as ones who have strayed too far on the path. I like seeing Conquest as an extreme solution, one that a paladin applies out of necessity rather than applying at all instances.
Kenneth Jones Conquest, “they clearly don’t know how to lead so I will be their leader instead”. You have a clear sense of community and are willing to do wrong in benefit of your town. It actually works well with Scourge aasimar. “I have to keep them together, be their beacon and unrelenting force of ruthlessness to those who dare corrupt them” I made one that was specifically made to cross the line so the humans won’t have to. She was tasked to do evil if it would benefit mankind. So she is so loving and huggable to everybody she meets but doesn’t flinch when death could give the party something of use.
I made a dwarf chaotic good paladin where my entire backstory is fighting in a seven year war against elves. My friend thought it would be funny to play a dark elf necromancer.. I dont know how long he'll last, I'm trying my best to keep my good ol boi away from his polar frickin opposite
8:10 The limitation of smite is that it is melee, and as a DM that's had flying enemies, and enemies crawling on walls, and combats with varying height levels, and enemies crawling on webs, there can be many times where a Paladin player feels kinda useless. That's the catch. If the enemy doesn't cooperate and stand on the ground next to them, then OH BOY, ITS TIME TO THROW JAVELINS AND COPE.
Kinda glazed over the fact that “improved divine smite” actually gives you an extra 1d8 of radiant damage to ALL melee weapon attacks, regardless of whether or not a regular Divine Smite is used
Half-orc: "Wait, you're a Tiefling?" Tiefling: "Yes, did you not notice the horns?" Half-orc: "I thought those were ornaments you put on your head..." Tiefling: "Why would I put fake horns on my head?!" Half-orc: "Why not?! Why do people put fake cat ears on their head?! I DON'T KNOW!!"
I love the idea of a paladin who used to be incredibly paragon and stubborn about being Lawful Good until he realized that his obedience to the rules was turning him into a villain and instead became a sort of Chaotic Good lone-ranger type who just wanders around and helps people out. Edit: Holy shit I like this character so much I'm going to make him
I made an oath of vengeance paladin/gunslinger inspired by The Punisher for a Civil War themed one shot. He killed everyone. Like, no one else got any kills. Frank got all of them.
@@TheKirbyT nobody wants to play Bob. Imagine working for hydra and every day some super jerk is breaking in and kick your henchman ass...when you are lucky. When not, Deadpool will visit you and then the real duck up shit will start to happen to You.
My favorite character (and oldest) i have is an Oath of Vengeance Paladin, that serves the god of farming. He is a middle aged dwarf who is the manifestation of Swords into Plowshares. His weapon and armor is forged from damaged farming equipment from over 150 years, and his shield is a broken wagon wheel. Not the typical paladin and i love him
Ok....hot take...coupled with an interesting character concept. Oathbreakers....don't *NEED* to be evil. See, here's my thought process...along with a Story I have in mind for a character that I want to play in a campaign one day. *A man trains to become a knight, showing near superhuman levels of dedication to the royal family. He eventually ascends into the ranks of the royal guard and fights tooth and nail to honor the promise he made, which seemingly grants him magical abilities. Then....as if his mind was suddenly cleared of some fog of joyful optimism...he realizes that the king and queen he serves...are horrid people. They treat their servants and their guards like below dirt. Seeds of doubt rampant in his mind...temptation of rage growing in his heart. The princess was even worst, throwing tantrums whenever someone tells her no. When his mentor was beheaded....his mind was set. One night....when the family was asleep....he killed them. All of them, leaving no royal blood alive...he was doing the people a favor. He lived his life holding the royal family on a pedestal...now though he realizes that the family he idolized was worst than the scummiest of urchins.* The idea is that he was a Crown Oath paladin, but he realized the Family he swore to were doing more harm to those around them than the people who tried to actually attack the kingdom. He's not evil...he's still wants to help people. He's simply gone from Lawful to Chaotic Good.
Yeah.... Im not sure murdering an entire family falls under the label of "good" no matter how scummy they may have been. A good way to fix this would be to have him just defect, become a vengeance paladin or something.
@@dragonheart1236 The idea was that he was doing it for a purely selfless reason. He was throwing his own life, status and standing away to do something that in the long run is bigger than himself.
@@dragonheart1236 Agreed! This sound more neutral evil if u ask me. U could possibly make a good oathbreaker if u can make a good story on them being such but again this leans more towards neutral evil. To me oathbreakers should always be Chaotic unless your doing the concept Jacob was talking about where u were evil but broke your oath to become good (even then I would say your still chaotic maybe).
Imagine what that person walking there dog in the background must have been thinking when they saw Jacob in his paladin uniform while he was singing and playing guitar
The oaths a paladin has could be something personal, like say he's a former criminal who has sworn not to go back to his old life, but is still a practical person who isn't lawful stupid. Maybe he's more like a samurai, who doesn't care about his own life and is dedicated to a cause or a group (almost like he'd work in a party or somethin....). There's so many ways the vows and oaths can be interpreted that the big complaint of "ugh I'm locked into this crappy stuff" makes no sense. Also that part about throwing out the description in the player's handbook is by far the best advice for this class. Don't lock it in as a "holy warrior who is completely restricted and stupid" and you should be fine.
I played an tenant of the ancient paladin once, she was a really sarcastic git, like she would help people with a smile but she would also joke about it as well.
@@marlettohemmingsen2828 any of the tenants could work, even vengeance, like you're stealing from nobles and such to eventually build up an army to take out the king (or whatever big guy you wanna take out)
I come from the distant land known as AD&D 2e, but I have to say, the problems with Paladin in 2e aren’t because of the fact that there LG. The problem is that players tend to focus to much on the Lawful part. Essentially, paladins were played as LAWFUL (good). I have a Paladin character that I try to play as lawful GOOD, and it makes for a far better character. At one point in time, my Paladin discovered a lich’s lair. Rather than just slay the lich, he managed to convince the lich to release its soul and move on. It was one of my fondest moments in gaming.
Cyber Searcher actually, I didn’t roll Charisma. I just role-played. I didn’t actually persuade the lich by being persuasive, but rather by discovering his reason for wanting immortality, and then helping him resolve the issue so he didn’t need to continue living anymore. Or, unliving, as it were.
Im an AD@D 2e player as well (so few of us left lol)! And i totally agree. Paladins should always be focused on team play, i think thats the most important takeaway
I see the alignment system as sort of a guideline. Not something that must be followed constantly. In the game, it is best if everyone is in the party is evil or nobody is evil. It does make things difficult if you have good and neutral characters interact with someone is clearly evil and a party going against itself can make it tricky.
An addendum: Neutrality is often underused. You can have morals and not be "good" Oath of the Crown embodies this Very lawful Probably has particular morals Reeks of lawful neutral because let's be real Sovereigns can make you do less than good things that you're loyalty bound to do
90% of the time, unless I've set it up beforehand, the DM sides with the "Chaotic Neutral" (read: Chaotic Evil) character and the Paladin gets his pee-pee slapped and is told to "chill out". I totally agree that people should just ban Lawful Good if that's how they're going to arbitrate all the player disputes.
My friends character, Tarel, was a vengeance paladin who was chasing after the man who gave the order to kill her family. When she found him, because of the circumstances surrounding the murders that were discovered throughout the course of the campaign, she couldnt bring herself to kill him. Describing him laying there, cowering, as tarel raised her sword up, only for it to swing down and clang against the stome floor, and how the amulet around her neck shattered and she became wreathed in black smoke as her subclass switched to oathbreaker was one of the highlights of my DMing career
Ancient is kinda my favourite. More than just druid paladin it gives so much more freedom then the other PHB options. And the tenants of bringing hope and joy are extremely versatile and not tied to nature
Honestly, I think it would be more fun to be an Evil Paladin that has to try following an oath he hates. Its just a very engaging idea. So agreed. Especially if he's only doing it for power. XD
It doesn't make sense that you can break your promise to your god and suddenly get necromancy powers. They should have given that to the Death Domain cleric. Having an evil character who is walking a moral red line by sticking to his oath while getting away with all kinds of wrongdoings is more fun.
I literally made a holy paladin and I love him, he’s a triton with a decent backstory and doesn’t conflict with the dm y is that because I am a forever dm that is training another dm so I can play at some point, it’s possible, and I love him
I really want to make a Lawful Evil Paladin that's stuck in his armour like a Cyberman, that has an oath with and basically worships the suit they're stuck in. If the armour comes off, the suit considers the oath abandoned, kills the guy in the suit, and the suit has to find a new body to take over.
@@Comicsluvr I've had a few people say things like that (Honest, I'm not tooting my own horn), but then I'm always the bloody DM so I've got a character backlog of about fifteen dudes!
I'm going to make an intelligence 6 paladin just so I can scream *_DEUS VULT!_* at the table randomly. _As you can infer, I'm quite the beloved role player._
Low intelligence paladins can be super fun. I played a Paladin long ago that swore fealty to an evil god who tricked him into thinking He was a benevolent one. He ran around crying blasphemy to anyone who said otherwise, which was...most of the world, actually...
A couple of my friends wanted to try out DMing for the first time, so they made a one-shot. I made an alicorn (half elf, half unicorn), which can detect evil at will..... I was very annoying. Every single room we entered, every new object we found, I shouted "DETECT EVIL!!!" Eventually they got tired of it, and decided that I detected evil from my womb. Basically my lawful good character gave birth to the BBEG and she was horrified. Good times.
I've actually considered making a sort of "Dark Paladin" who's sort of a mix between a Chaotic Good Paladin who uses Dark Magic, not really Necromancy, but more blood magic and actual dark energy to protect the innocent and downtrodden civilians he comes across, even going so far as to strike down guards and knights who serve corrupt political figures in defense of the little man. So basically a Dark Knight for any fellow FF14 fans who get that.
One of my favorite characters was an Ex-con paladin trying to turn his life around. A lot of the party members were morally ambiguous, and he UNDERSTOOD where they were coming from, and sympathized with them.
I know some will think that if Paladins deviate from the historical Paladins, then you are playing it wrong, which I disagree with, because there should be many kinds of Paladins. I mean, the Warlocks in DND aren't exactly like the historical "warlocks" either. When people think of Warlock, they think of the Fiend or maybe Undying type, and when people think of Paladins, they think of the Oath of Devotion, but there are many kinds of oaths and it doesn't NEED to involve a god. That's what you have clerics for, who are empowered through worship, while Paladins kind of empower themselves through their oath, whoever and whatever they swore it to, and sort of become an avatar of the that idea. There are many kinds of Warlocks like the Celestial. People think if you swear your loyalty to someone evil, you cease being a Paladin, but why? Warlocks and Clerics who are for good or evil entities don't switch their class because they chose to work with someone, because that's not how classes work. I mean, this is DND, so of course the druids, warlocks, ect. aren't going to be exactly like their historical counterparts, and they don't need to be, because this is fantasy, not history. I mean, a Paladin is still a Paladin because of how they got their power, not who they are in league with. That's what makes a Paladin a Paladin. It's because of the oath they swear to. Warlocks get it from forming pacts, Wizards, study, Sorcerers are born with magic or cursed with it or affected by it in some way, Clerics get it through worshiping gods, and Druids get their power from nature. A Warlock doesn't stop being a Warlock because who they form a pact with. Whether they are celestial or fiend, they are still considered Warlocks. Just like no matter what a Paladin swears and oath, too, it's irrelevant. The fact they are getting it from their oath is enough, whether it's because they swore it to some angel or some devil. And they need to be their own thing, because otherwise, they come off as just a more musclebound Cleric, and we already have those. They're called War Clerics.
*My Tabaxi oath of devotion paladin is a careful , deep caring and shy guy .* *But when he goes into battle , turns into a hyper mobile blitzkrieg smiting tank .* *He practically steam rolled a Night hag in a single turn/round into a frantic retreat .*
So you know how Paladins are supposed to be lawful, especially lawful good ones right? Well I have a story I was playing my third adventure as a dragonic rogue, We were walking down some stone steps, when one of our members fell, off the stairs, and got knocked out, and then was ambushed, So my character Ghresh, single handedly (because only I and her had began going down the stairs at the time, so know one heard what was going on) defeated the ambushers (total luck of the dice), I was left with one HP, less then my party member I saved, however my party gave our only health potion to her, But then we remembered, the paladin found a med kit, So I walked up to him, he was standing near another flight of stairs, so I ask him for the kit, Which he reply’s to saying I don’t deserve it... (Now to prep for the next bit, understand that I believe you should always do what your character would do, even if it is not recommended) So Ghresh punches him, and rolls a 20, then a 6 and his strength modifier was +2, Yet the paladin did not fall down the stairs, even though his back WAS TURNED, So like any lawful good character, he stabs me with a long sword, And I die instantly, The rest of my party then brutally murders him, and he became a hell knight. So that was fun
The fun and interesting bit of playing a pally as intended is the intersection of black and white oaths with a gray world. Cutting that out kills most all of the flavor from a paladin. That's honestly why I'm against the newer, less restrictive versions of a paladin. The abilities were never the differentiator for the class. It's always been fighter with a splash of cleric. I'm not saying that the pre-3e LG human only was the best way, but the general idea was right. There should have been versions of the paladin for at least all three lawful alignments, and it being linked tightly with a deity is what makes sense, as it's a fighter with cleric splashed. I almost want to say that the truly best way for it to be would be a prestige class or level restricted kit (as in you can't take it until like level 5 or so) in order for you to do enough deeds and become strong enough to actually be your god's enforcer, but it being a base class is too ingrained. I can see why more mechanically minded players don't like stuff like that because they want access to the mechanics while being able to play things as they want, which is cool. It's a game where we roll dice and pretend that's epic. But restrictions aren't inherently a bad thing nor are they as restrictive as people think, and trying to walk a thin line of keeping your God pleased, keeping your oaths, and the very human desire to keep your friends friends can be awesome to play, especially when the stakes for failing at any one of those are so high.
An idea for a character: A paladin whos oath were their wedding vows, they fell in love with an elf without being one. So they set out to become a lich so they can be with them forever so "death will never part us".
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Just imagine going to the park with your kids and you see Jacob running around shouting "The oath has been abandoned".
Bard Lich ahhh classic jacob
Now imagine that, but one man is singing to another about sucking the second guy's dick.
hardrockmusickid what the actual hell?
@@bubbleboy1320 I agree, what the absolute fuck?
I bet that happened to you and it was hilarious
This series is just ''the bard explaining the other classes''
Now im gonna make a Bard that thinks all the other classes are useless, stupid, and in all ways worse.
I feel like a weird DM because I hate actually playing bards, like whenever I ask another DM that's the number one answer on the board.
So speedwagon
yep.
Randomly Awesome yes but plus singing and minus shooting British vampires
Be me:
-Makes Paladin's Oath be his wedding vows.
-Wife dies.
-Paladin goes on an epic quest to resurrect his wife.
-The oath gives him strength because it symbolizes his love and connection to his wife, so long as he keeps his oath there is hope of reuniting with his wife in this mortal plane.
and if you become an evil necromancer more concerned with power than love and compassion along the way, you get to be an oathbreaker, which is cool
And then you resurrect her and the oath is broken because of an "until death do us part" part that you forgot or forsook
@@matthewbryant8378 well played
@@matthewbryant8378 and then he just makes the oath AGAIN.
This idea sounds absolutely insane, man. I hope you get to play this character one day!
Drow Dex-Based Oathbreaker Paladin. He broke his oath of “kill all undead” when he fell in love with a Vampire.
oooh i love this imma steal this now
Better love story than Twilight, amirite?
I mean, if you get a succubuss to fall for you and kiss you you become a vampire. Good explanation for high cha, the superpowers that come with vampires are op and it gives you a cool excuse to be an oath breaker:
Ew, it's a corpse
love it
I once DM'd a science fantasy campaign where one of my players played a half-orc paladin who swore an oath of conquest... against germs. He was the janitor on the spaceship the party was employed on. He originally started out with a mop that he could wield like a quarterstaff.
That is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard of. I'm speechless at this beautiful display of creativity. Bravo to the daring soul who made this dude 👏👏👏
Lemon fresh victory is mine!!!!
I’ve heard a story about a a OCD (cleric?) . After fights she would pull out a broom and dustpan out of a bag of holding and cleaned up everything and put the dirt into the bag. When they got to the big bad she just filled the bag inside out and buried it a ton dirt, bodies, and everything else in there.
That sounds stupid but amazing at the same time
We shall take germrusalem
>Be me
>Become paladin
>Rest of the party doesn’t care that much.
>Levels to 20
>Turn into an angel.
>Rest of the party:
how did this happen?
Immortal Bacon
Haha, this is my first time playing a Paladin... I’m kinda new, haha. But my character is a Moon Goddess incarnate named; Rehtaeh. The whole purpose of her character is to get big, destroy the cursed relics that are causing not only this world, but ALSO causing her Sister-Goddess pain. Then she is meant to re-ascend into the heavens when the mission is over, and go back to being just a side-goddess. But... because the ritual that was supposed to bring her into the world much sooner was screwed up, she ended up getting trapped inside the body of a child, and losing her memories. She then remained asleep for thousands of years until being awaken by the current party members. Lots of crap went down after her awakening, and now she has a platonic older brother named Theren, he’s an elf and also kind of the leader of the group. She also AGED up, because magic capsules apparently exist? So now she’s a big girl, and I’m pretty sure Theren sees her as a bit more than a SISTER now.
SWEEEET HOME ALABAMA
Raven Artist the ultimate alabama
@@ravenartistofficial lmaoo
The druid in the party who also got to level 20: *it's free real estate*
666 likes say otherwise
My first DM: "I think Paladins are boring."
Me, 2 years after being told that, playing an evil Paladin with a greatsword buffed with radiant damage, and role-playing as what is basically a Sith Lord: "Then you are lost!"
>sith lord
>Quotes obi-wan
mannn that sounds awesome
Ye cool, but it just makes me sad, that everytime someone thinks of epic or interesting paladin, they mean dark or evil or anything just not the good paladin
A Sith lawd?
If what you have told me is true, you will have earned my "tell me more stories pls"
Vork Nullom Because non dark/evil Paladins r boring af. It’s y oathbreaker is the only subclass I like of Paladin cause I feel like their is so much more u can do to make the character interesting.
“This is the only class that swears away their life in an oath”
Warlock: Am I a joke to you?
Selling your soul and swearing an oath are two different things.
Well, warlocks bargain, like "naaaah, you have to give me a better offer than this crap". Paladin is like "shut up and take my soul". Some level of difference there :D
Warlock is more like a job... actually is just like a job you sacrifice your time happiness, family relationship but guess what, you have a *good dental health insurance*!
@@Sharkakaka Didn't they stop caring after Vagabond failed a check.
It depends on the Warlock Patron and the DM. Theoretically, if your Patron is a Great Old One they may not even truly realize you exist. They may think you are merely a dream or something like that. Another theoretical possible occurrence is you eliminate your patron & absorb all their power becoming something else.
Here's my advice for anyone who wants to play a good aligned paladin:
Be the party's moral compass, not their moral railroad.
This. I've got a Cleric in my CoS game and she's always the bright, happy sunshine one who wants good things to happen.
One of the ways I played a paladin was I made him the "judge jury and executioner" of his diety and his sole reason to stay with the party was to travel and find those that opposed his diety.
Queue a random npc that casually disapproved of my God and my character shot him the meanest glare and the party all collectively went "oh fuck someone stop the paladin from committing murder in the middle of daylight"
Yes. Use words to be more of a Ghandi or Jesus, not a fighter with a stick up his butt.
Agreed. There was a point where the party's leader was gonna kill someone who was spying on us to try and get out of a really fucked up Thieves Guild, something his sister was trying as well.
So after some time of trying to stop him, eventually stepped aside and told him that her blood would be on everyone's hands, not just his own.
Chaotic good is so much more fun than being Mr goody two shoes. You can be the crazy zealot who follows his oath. But is ok with bending the law or looking the other way. Plus if you dumpster intelligence your party can convince your *character* of distract him pretty easily.
So you can be a crazy DEUS VULT" without Nessicarily being a detriment to the party
Lawful Good Paladin in a party of murderhobos is the single most frustrating experience.
I mean that's just bad communication between players.
I hear yah
Then ask your dm why there isn't more heavier consequence for just being murder hobos? You can legitimately do this. If their killing civilians. make it harder for them to get away without penalty, like more guards or tough situations if they resort to violence, instead of simply using role playing skills. Make the players know there are more options then just violence, but if they always wish to do so and it's against your character. You have to either opt out the paladin from the party and play something else as the party isn't lawful good or the campaign narrative could call for more darker moral choices. OR, Push the narrative of doing good and actually chastise the parties actions, get them locked up or have them arrested by your Paladin. Do what a paladin should do. Stop evil people from doing evil things, or don't be a paladin. Unless you wanna play same evil paladin? idk lol
@@NoManLP The thing is, in a party of murderhobos, the Lawful Good Paladin IS the problem player. The rest of the group has agreed on a playstyle, which his character concept simply isn't compatible with.
"Guy, just, please, guy, oh noo you did it, oh please not again."
“It doesnt take skill to make fun of paladin”
*Proceeds to write and sing a beautiful, song about paladin
Bony Macaroni It doesn’t take skill, but you can add some if you want
Dominic Field fair enough
Honestly, it does kinda slap though
Nice to see someone else in the comments appreciating Jacob's songs
“Ah yes, I’m thinking about playing a Paladin!”
*ad for Raid Shadow Legends*
“Now I have Lay on Hands!”
He really put a midroll ad there and i think it's part of the joke
I got an ad for the US navy
@@alexboyer6691 avoid that oath
oh you have ads. pathetic.
I did not get an ad
> Be Paladin
> Forsake personal gain
> Party enters gambling tournament
> Win the pot
> 2.5 million gold
> party celebrates that we're now super rich and can buy all the maxed gear
> Donate all of it to charity
> Party decides to steal the money from the charity
> Murder entire party to death
> Because Paladin.
I (as a LG cleric) once murdered our resident vampire in one hit with my radiant mace to his face becuz he killed an innocent.
As a LN paladin i once hitkilled an allied hexblade. In the backstory he is doesn't really deal well with warlocks, in the roleplay, the dude who were playing the warlock was leaving the group, so we made so that i asked him about his prowess in combat, finally knowing he was a warlock the whole time. My character didn't want to kill his friend, but his oath was more important than his personal willing. And with this we could bring some development to my character while also resolving the issue with the (now) playerless warlock character
Paladin did the wrong thing first. He donated money that wasn't his own.
@@gaminreasons8941 Nah, that's not a wrong thing. Donating money that isn't your own is legit from a moral sense.
@@AwsomeO10000 No. Its theft. Doesn't matter what you do with stolen money that doesn't change how it was obtained.
Aura of protection AKA when in doubt hug a Paladin.
Who are you?
@@davidtucker9498 a Paladin who needs a hug
Buddy system!
Funny thing is that my only paladin character is this cinnamon bun drow named Indigo. Her lay on hands comes in the form of hugs. She’s a delight to play.
Me, an oath of conquest paladin
How to fix Divine Smite: have it cost a SPELL SLOT.
Oh wait, that's exactly what it costs already.
And a paladin is only a half caster, so they run out so fast if you want to simply be effective in battle when a rogue can keep going and going, turn after turn with no end with their sneak attacks in comparison.
Or have one per turn, eldritch smite does this and it's balanced
This. Paladins are only half-casters, so spell slots aren't a resource to be taken lightly.
If you have more than one combat per in-game day, which you *really* should, odds are the Paladin is going to have to start thinking tactically about which enemies really deserve that kick in the goolies. A Rogue, by comparison, gets to add *their* kick to the goolies to pretty much every attack they make, even if there's nothing but combat for an in-game hour (600 rounds).
That said, this video is parody and kind-of-deliberately goes on a surface reading. Check the Warlock class guide by this same person, that one makes it as obvious as it can be.
@@JohnvanCapel Rogues never get more than 1 attack per round, no matter their level, to balance Sneak Attack only having an opportunity cost. What does this have to do with Divine Smite again?
@@Darkkfated Because in both cases, it's "extra" damage on top of an attack. A Rogue's single Sneak Attack lets them outpace a Greatsword Fighter at most levels, and a Greatsword Paladin pretty much always when they're not Smiting.
Smite lets the Paladin deal more damage than the Rogue, but at a resource cost.
Divine Health: the flintstone gummies you ate as a kid have finally kicked in.
LMAO😂
"Justice doesn't get the flu"
-Davi Chapy.
"Open up your eyes and pray to the mother of dawn; she spells a poem that translates into hold on"
Dang can I steal that Jacob that was rather profound
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@@skycrafter2042 Nice.
"what can the oath of devotion do at 20th level? Hug puppies as a bonus action?" - homeless man's last words before evaporating
That would be my level 20 ability if I could choose
I wonder what the other people at the park think about Jacob...
"Why is there a dude being videotaped in fake knight's armor playing a guitar?"
Yea it would be very weird
Or running around screaming about the oath being broken(or whatever the exact words were)!
@@JacksonOwex The Oath has been abandoned!!
\○/ praise the sun \○/
brolaire best paladin
praise \o/
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\[T]/
\O/ praise the sun \O/
"Lay on hands makes you different then a fighter or cleric"
Life cleric: *whistles*
im a bard ill steal it
@@braydenwagner2908 *college of glam intensifies*
Druid of Dreams says hi
There are as many different ways to play Cleric as there are religions in the game. They don't have to be the designated White Mage of the group!
Divine soul sorcerer: Hello there.
Bard: "Beee my friend.."
Paladin: *taps self* No.
5:01 that is EXACTLY what happened with my Paladin. She cast Divine Sense to confirm that the baddy in front of us was an undead and the DM informed us that she sensed another undead as well- DIRECTLY to her left. *stares at party's new human-looking artificer*
Irony? She's an aasimar in disguise herself, who was effectively outed to the party by an NPC from her backstory not long afterwards, so she confronted him about it quietly and they ended up hardcore bonding over shared secrets.
(also, that NPC that outed her is who her Oath of Vengeance is sworn against. She used to have wings and he cut them off, so she's after him and the cult he's in too. The campaign is Norse themed, so her deity is Freyja and her angelic guide is a valkyrie. And whenever she finally gets her hands on that guy, well... "If you wanted MY wings so badly, I'll give you some Blood Eagle wings of your own!")
(DON'T google what a Blood Eagle unless you're prepared for gore, by the way)
She casted divine sense? U mean used? Lol it’s not a spell so u don’t cast it.
@@davidstratton696 Haha, fair point- it's a verbal slip-up I make even while playing xD
@@cyanrosespirit I had a player in another game say he was going to cast perception… Always remember that it could be worse
My Paladin follows Tyr so the Celestial she summons using Find Steed is a Valkyrie named Svava. My paladin always summons her into the form of a giant snake 🐍 because a giant snake mount is super awesome! In character it’s because her family believes she’s a traitorous, lying, kinslaying snake so she’s pulling a Jafar going “A *snake* am I?!”
any explanation of blood eagle please?
Make a party of chaotic good paladins
Have fun hearing constant crusader memes.
Thought about this. Still am.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
@@matteussilvestre8583 I'll do what I want.
Plot twist, they all believe in a different god and it ends with a bloodbath.
Deus matre-copulus VULT
I'd love to see a HOW TO PLAY FIGHTER since they're my favorite class.
"Champion Archetype: Because playing a Barbarian is too complicated."
somerandomguy009 odd choice for favorite class.
@@astolenusername7675 To be fair it contains most all playstyles within it.
@@astolenusername7675 I know, but I really like to play the one "normal guy" in a group full of magical/supernatural beings. It creates a really cool dynamic. Also, I like the ability to hold your own against all kinds of foes with just a sword and your wits. No magic or divine assistance necessary. (Yes, I know about Eldritch Knights. My favorite specifically is the Battlemaster archetype.)
@somerandomguy009, Yeah, that's such a draw in for the fighter. I remember somebody putting it into a great phrase:
"Fighter is the most badass class of all, because he looked at this world or elven mages, demons and dragons, looked at his sword, and was like 'yep, that'll be enough' "
@@ace0071000 It was WebDM, and you misquoted it a little bit.
The other day I got the idea for a tiefling magical girl and so I ended up looking at the Paladin class for the first time and I think an orphan handmaiden from a temple of the goddess Sune who discovers she can channel divine powers and goes on a quest to protect love and beauty could be amazing. The theatricality that inherently comes with a Paladin of Devotion is perfect for a magical girl who is constantly shouting out the names of all her attacks while posing and launching longwinded threats at her enemies.
level 20 ability is just a magical girl transformation
@@anasexualdragonwithinterne2912 I ended up playing the character in a doomed campaign. For the couple of sessions it lasted it was a blast for me. I really want to get into dnd more so I can play her at another table.
@@RevolutionaryLoser thats cool
Okay, but can we all agree that these opening songs are just a freaking vibe.
Wait a minute that's a B A R D in a paladins armor
Can't hide that musical power from me
Studio XC Wait, thats illegal!
Caleb Rudd not illegal, just abserd.
He took the entertainer backround
@@haosmagnaingram6992 nice Puffin Forest pun
Or he's multi classing
*D E U S V U L T*
this is so me when im VULTing
My paladin's name is Amadeus Vult.
*_W E W I L L T A K E J E R U S A L E M_*
_AVE MARIA!_
Farrew yea mine was named Deus vult... a Bible fell from the heavens and only like one goal
Idea: A Paladin that acts like the Doomslayer
Oath of Conquest against fiends and demons? Maybe a backstory of how an arch devil murdered your town and left your puppy's head on a stake, in your rage you called upon the gods of conquest to grant you powers for vengeance, and now you are forever bound to kill any and all fiends and devils...... this sounds a lot more like Kratos.
I did that one
@@funnyvideoguy3216 nice
Or one that acts like a Grey Knight
Rip and tear!
I wanna play a paladin that starts out as a stereotypical hero, realizes that they aren't that special, and goes through a crisis where they have to re-evaluate their whole life and what they stand for. Juicy roleplay opportunities!
Gifted child syndrome. You were in all advanced and AP classes in high school then you went off to college and were totally average. You enter the workforce and realize that how well you did in sophomore English has little bearing on professional success.
I dig it. Maybe a Paladin who leveled up to 3 or 4, then said 'fuck it' and became a fighter.
It's been two years has your dream come true
Daenerys as “Lawful Good” didn’t age well...
Yeah.... Hey! I have some news for you! 🙃
She obviously drew Balance from The Deck of Many Things
@@jackclare3895 you'd think so considering how fast the switch was
Omg oof tho
Pranay Talati she slaughtered a city of about 20,000 people using her dragon to prove a point
>Protection sucks
I'm sorry, saving the squishy rogue archer with Lay on Hands, keeping that arrow from hitting him with my reaction, then healing him for another 14 HP with a lvl 2 cure wounds the next round while he blasts the enemy with sneak attack longbow shots totally sucks
Yeah I'm mad, fite me irl bro I bet you kiss girls
Okay I know your mad about rogues and all but come on we ain't all bad it's just bad until we get to a decently high level but then we're killed by the GM Because we can sometimes become a little two OP(sometimes.......) And 2: I'm asexual btw so I sorta don't kiss girls 😅
@@schorfactor7000 which is why I tend to stay out of range of those big beefy dudes and just use magic along with my arrows to wear them down cause going in combat head on is an absolutely retarded idea for a rogue cause more times than not you'll be brutally impaled and dead on the ground faster than you can pick a lock
I use protection too. I consider myself the role of FIghter/Support/Marksman
It Only Activates Within A Space, A...SINGLE...SPACE!
Scott Irving You don't have to protect your party
If there's *nothing* to protect them from
*Taps head*
Im playing a Paladin of Conquest, and I LOVE playing him, he is apart of the church of basically a holy war deity, and he is the most well known paladin in his church, and he is known as Death’s Howl. He uses a great hammer that deploys wind magic to increase damage(aka rocket hammer), howls when he swings it and it’s how he got his name, he follows his church’s orders, to a T, it is his biggest flaw, most of the time, he’s used for their bidding, he’s light hearted when he’s not in combat, but when combat happens, no one is spared, ALL die, he empathizes with his enemies but he also pities them, he’s extremely fun and I get along with the party real well
Ahhh I dig it :)
I once made a pure neutral devotion paladin that was devoted to another player. So I would do everything they told me and it was... Amazing.
Pure neutral? More like pure sub
"the closest you'll get to being a magic knight in d&d"
even including the fighter subclass that's literally called "eldritch knight"?
Or a hexblade warlock...
He is talking about the "Noble Knight" like those from king arthur
Those aren't really magic knights. They're mostly a mix of martial and magical abilities, but there's nothing in the class that makes them knightly.
@@Levyathyn Ignoring the fact that "magic knight" refers to classes that are both frontlines fighters and are adept with magic, fighters are absolutely knightly if you want them to be. They can wear heavy armor, use any weapon or shield, learn abilities that make them good at protecting their allies, and aren't restricted from being roleplayed as chivalrous and honorable. They also have a sub-class literally called Knight.
Hexblade Warlocks can easily be flavored as mystical black knights, too.
@@TheHellspawnHero and also knights were known to be assholes before the chansons de geste
Paladin is a fascinating and interesting class, but the issue with it is almost exactly what you pointed out; but rather than it problem being paladins being "supposed" to be LG, it's that nobody knows what LG is.
Lawful Good does not always follow the law. It does not obey the law to a T. This is NL. Lawful good, instead, believes in the spirit of the law, that it was made to serve man and help society.
In addition, it is character to character how a paladin can go about acting these beliefs out. Not everybody viciously blasts people with their beliefs, and the same should be said for paladins.
When you play a paladin, focus not on the idea of lawful good (most people think party cop who starts attacking the rogue when they steal someones shit); focus on someone who wants to help people, because that is what the paladin is about.
How do you help people? That is up to the oath. Devotion, and crown protect. Vengeance smites evil. Redemption redeems those willing.
Keep this in mind and you'll create an incredible paladin. You don't even have to try and be evil and soil the name of paladins to do so, just work a little harder to actually understand the alignment system.
Final thing: Paladins are not perfect. They will try (usually try their hardest) to do the best, or the right thing; but this means different things to many different people. Mistakes are only human. Or dwarven. Or orcish. Or whatever else.
tl;df, none of the actually tenets of your oath, the "rules" you have to follow are that difficult to follow, nor should they cause the death of the party unless the player is playing them lawful stupid.
You can make a very cool holy templar! But play them as an actual person rather than an angry, buff catholic. Give them real emotions and have them react as a normal person would to things.
Sagro123 Oh yeah.
Personally, I always thought that the whole warrior for god thing was the cleric’s domain, and instead chose to look at paladin’s like people that have become so devoted to something that their sheer force of will awakens some innate magic kickass within their being, or some shit.
Question - what do you think of the Oath of Conquest? Purely evil, has potential to be more neutral? How would you go about looking at that oath? I find the idea that normal Conquest Paladins see Hell Knights (or Conquest Paladins who have devoted themselves to devils) as ones who have strayed too far on the path. I like seeing Conquest as an extreme solution, one that a paladin applies out of necessity rather than applying at all instances.
Kenneth Jones
Conquest, “they clearly don’t know how to lead so I will be their leader instead”.
You have a clear sense of community and are willing to do wrong in benefit of your town.
It actually works well with Scourge aasimar.
“I have to keep them together, be their beacon and unrelenting force of ruthlessness to those who dare corrupt them”
I made one that was specifically made to cross the line so the humans won’t have to.
She was tasked to do evil if it would benefit mankind. So she is so loving and huggable to everybody she meets but doesn’t flinch when death could give the party something of use.
Sagro123 what about oath of the ancients?
I made a dwarf chaotic good paladin where my entire backstory is fighting in a seven year war against elves. My friend thought it would be funny to play a dark elf necromancer.. I dont know how long he'll last, I'm trying my best to keep my good ol boi away from his polar frickin opposite
8:10 The limitation of smite is that it is melee, and as a DM that's had flying enemies, and enemies crawling on walls, and combats with varying height levels, and enemies crawling on webs, there can be many times where a Paladin player feels kinda useless. That's the catch. If the enemy doesn't cooperate and stand on the ground next to them, then OH BOY, ITS TIME TO THROW JAVELINS AND COPE.
oh hi vechs o.o
That's when a paladin is gonna need nets and other wingbreaking bullshit
The wizard casting flight on the paladin
Kinda glazed over the fact that “improved divine smite” actually gives you an extra 1d8 of radiant damage to ALL melee weapon attacks, regardless of whether or not a regular Divine Smite is used
Jacob: I want to multiclass into Bard
*19 Bard levels later*
Dolphinboi “It’s just a dip!”
When your Ork Paladin uses divine sense and finds out that the party has a Vampire (Ixalan) an Aasimar and a Tiefling
Neok T fairly certain that divine sense specifically doesn’t tell you where the undead, fiend, or celestial are
Tfw I have 2 characters. Ones orc paladin the other is a friggin vampire tiefling rogue. Rip
Half-orc: "Wait, you're a Tiefling?"
Tiefling: "Yes, did you not notice the horns?"
Half-orc: "I thought those were ornaments you put on your head..."
Tiefling: "Why would I put fake horns on my head?!"
Half-orc: "Why not?! Why do people put fake cat ears on their head?! I DON'T KNOW!!"
Wait I can sense Tieflings?! HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS WE'RE ALREADY LVL3!!!!
@@salmanmahyuddin8384 You can't
All this time I thought Jacob was a Bard, but he was actually an Oathbreaker Paladin with the Entertainer background.
I love the idea of a paladin who used to be incredibly paragon and stubborn about being Lawful Good until he realized that his obedience to the rules was turning him into a villain and instead became a sort of Chaotic Good lone-ranger type who just wanders around and helps people out.
Edit: Holy shit I like this character so much I'm going to make him
Thats exactly what I'm going for on my first character
I made an oath of vengeance paladin/gunslinger inspired by The Punisher for a Civil War themed one shot. He killed everyone. Like, no one else got any kills. Frank got all of them.
And his character's name is FRANK?! Shit, could as well go with Bob
@@filipevasconcelos4409 Frank as in Frank Castle.
@@TheKirbyT nobody wants to play Bob.
Imagine working for hydra and every day some super jerk is breaking in and kick your henchman ass...when you are lucky.
When not, Deadpool will visit you and then the real duck up shit will start to happen to You.
your party probably wants to kill you...or worse
Sounds a bit much like a lone wooolf
My favorite character (and oldest) i have is an Oath of Vengeance Paladin, that serves the god of farming. He is a middle aged dwarf who is the manifestation of Swords into Plowshares. His weapon and armor is forged from damaged farming equipment from over 150 years, and his shield is a broken wagon wheel. Not the typical paladin and i love him
Ok....hot take...coupled with an interesting character concept.
Oathbreakers....don't *NEED* to be evil. See, here's my thought process...along with a Story I have in mind for a character that I want to play in a campaign one day.
*A man trains to become a knight, showing near superhuman levels of dedication to the royal family. He eventually ascends into the ranks of the royal guard and fights tooth and nail to honor the promise he made, which seemingly grants him magical abilities. Then....as if his mind was suddenly cleared of some fog of joyful optimism...he realizes that the king and queen he serves...are horrid people. They treat their servants and their guards like below dirt. Seeds of doubt rampant in his mind...temptation of rage growing in his heart. The princess was even worst, throwing tantrums whenever someone tells her no. When his mentor was beheaded....his mind was set. One night....when the family was asleep....he killed them. All of them, leaving no royal blood alive...he was doing the people a favor. He lived his life holding the royal family on a pedestal...now though he realizes that the family he idolized was worst than the scummiest of urchins.*
The idea is that he was a Crown Oath paladin, but he realized the Family he swore to were doing more harm to those around them than the people who tried to actually attack the kingdom. He's not evil...he's still wants to help people. He's simply gone from Lawful to Chaotic Good.
its an "epic fable" for sure, but it works. it makes sense for even level 1. it also makes a "good" oathbreaker character
Yeah.... Im not sure murdering an entire family falls under the label of "good" no matter how scummy they may have been. A good way to fix this would be to have him just defect, become a vengeance paladin or something.
@@dragonheart1236 The idea was that he was doing it for a purely selfless reason. He was throwing his own life, status and standing away to do something that in the long run is bigger than himself.
@@ermacmacro7136 again, more akin to an vengeance
@@dragonheart1236 Agreed! This sound more neutral evil if u ask me. U could possibly make a good oathbreaker if u can make a good story on them being such but again this leans more towards neutral evil. To me oathbreakers should always be Chaotic unless your doing the concept Jacob was talking about where u were evil but broke your oath to become good (even then I would say your still chaotic maybe).
Imagine what that person walking there dog in the background must have been thinking when they saw Jacob in his paladin uniform while he was singing and playing guitar
"Shut up, Protection sucks."
*hides character sheet under rug, burns house down*
The oaths a paladin has could be something personal, like say he's a former criminal who has sworn not to go back to his old life, but is still a practical person who isn't lawful stupid.
Maybe he's more like a samurai, who doesn't care about his own life and is dedicated to a cause or a group (almost like he'd work in a party or somethin....). There's so many ways the vows and oaths can be interpreted that the big complaint of "ugh I'm locked into this crappy stuff" makes no sense.
Also that part about throwing out the description in the player's handbook is by far the best advice for this class. Don't lock it in as a "holy warrior who is completely restricted and stupid" and you should be fine.
I played an tenant of the ancient paladin once, she was a really sarcastic git, like she would help people with a smile but she would also joke about it as well.
My oath is to only eat pineapples
I'm thinking of a robin hood character. paladin with a criminal background. what say you?
@@welcometothefuneral I see you are a man of culture as well.
@@marlettohemmingsen2828 any of the tenants could work, even vengeance, like you're stealing from nobles and such to eventually build up an army to take out the king (or whatever big guy you wanna take out)
0:54 when your paladin multiclasses into bard
"32 Damage!"
Laughed so hard tortellini nearly shot forth from mine nostrils.
10:33 *Tahiti bound*
Holy shit, that's wonderful.
Austin Glad to see someone else recognised the RDR2 joke
You have to have FAITH, ARTHUR
We just nEED SOME MONEY. One LAST job. Have sOME GOD DAMN FAITH.
Arthur: You failed me BOAH!
Horse: Na-nani?
*stab*
I hAvE a pLaN!
I come from the distant land known as AD&D 2e, but I have to say, the problems with Paladin in 2e aren’t because of the fact that there LG. The problem is that players tend to focus to much on the Lawful part. Essentially, paladins were played as LAWFUL (good). I have a Paladin character that I try to play as lawful GOOD, and it makes for a far better character. At one point in time, my Paladin discovered a lich’s lair. Rather than just slay the lich, he managed to convince the lich to release its soul and move on. It was one of my fondest moments in gaming.
Warden - golden dragon mentality V silver dragon mentality
Yo you’re charisma role must’ve impressed even the bard. Mad props to you
Cyber Searcher actually, I didn’t roll Charisma. I just role-played.
I didn’t actually persuade the lich by being persuasive, but rather by discovering his reason for wanting immortality, and then helping him resolve the issue so he didn’t need to continue living anymore. Or, unliving, as it were.
@@warden-3699 hnnnnnn you probably still should have rolled for it, why should it believe you in the first place. But hey, sounds good regardless
Im an AD@D 2e player as well (so few of us left lol)! And i totally agree. Paladins should always be focused on team play, i think thats the most important takeaway
I see the alignment system as sort of a guideline. Not something that must be followed constantly. In the game, it is best if everyone is in the party is evil or nobody is evil. It does make things difficult if you have good and neutral characters interact with someone is clearly evil and a party going against itself can make it tricky.
An addendum: Neutrality is often underused.
You can have morals and not be "good"
Oath of the Crown embodies this
Very lawful
Probably has particular morals
Reeks of lawful neutral because let's be real
Sovereigns can make you do less than good things that you're loyalty bound to do
90% of the time, unless I've set it up beforehand, the DM sides with the "Chaotic Neutral" (read: Chaotic Evil) character and the Paladin gets his pee-pee slapped and is told to "chill out".
I totally agree that people should just ban Lawful Good if that's how they're going to arbitrate all the player disputes.
My friends character, Tarel, was a vengeance paladin who was chasing after the man who gave the order to kill her family. When she found him, because of the circumstances surrounding the murders that were discovered throughout the course of the campaign, she couldnt bring herself to kill him. Describing him laying there, cowering, as tarel raised her sword up, only for it to swing down and clang against the stome floor, and how the amulet around her neck shattered and she became wreathed in black smoke as her subclass switched to oathbreaker was one of the highlights of my DMing career
How does this sound?
1lvl in paladin
1lvl in celestial warlock
1lvl in divine soul sorcerer
And aasimar as race
Boom quadrouple lay on hands(ish)
all of the touchies
Don't forget 2 levels into dreams druid!
@@pandacakes6613 Completely missed that druids had a similar thing! Thanks . My harassment healer has become that much richer
this is like sun wukong becoming quadruple immortal but with divinity and lay on hands
There's also a Monk that does a lay-on-hands
Calmly and patiently waiting for the how to play a Cleric guide
Just made my first Paladin character. He's a Lawful Neutral follower of the Raven Queen.
His oath, "Do into others, what they're likely to do to you."
Shouldn't it be do 'unto' others?
Ancient is kinda my favourite. More than just druid paladin it gives so much more freedom then the other PHB options. And the tenants of bringing hope and joy are extremely versatile and not tied to nature
There are two ways to play paladin:
1) *we will retake the holy land*
2)*for the emprah!*
3) [Oathbreaker] "Fuck this shit!"
How about a criminal paladin? kind of like robin hood
4) [Conquest] "Kneel before me."
Vherstinae spess mehreens are oath of crown Paladins serving the Emprah, an oath of conquest paladin
NO PRISONERS! FOR THE EMPEROR!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
An evil paladin who "follows" the oath could be interesting actaully.
Lewis Williams Ooooh, a LE paladin of devotion, I like it.
I have a LE orc paladin whose oath is to a goddess who resides in a literal hellscape who wants to destroy all undead
That’s kinda what Blackguards used to be, I guess the 5e equivalent would be Oathbreaker
Honestly, I think it would be more fun to be an Evil Paladin that has to try following an oath he hates. Its just a very engaging idea. So agreed. Especially if he's only doing it for power. XD
It doesn't make sense that you can break your promise to your god and suddenly get necromancy powers. They should have given that to the Death Domain cleric. Having an evil character who is walking a moral red line by sticking to his oath while getting away with all kinds of wrongdoings is more fun.
I literally made a holy paladin and I love him, he’s a triton with a decent backstory and doesn’t conflict with the dm y is that because I am a forever dm that is training another dm so I can play at some point, it’s possible, and I love him
I really want to make a Lawful Evil Paladin that's stuck in his armour like a Cyberman, that has an oath with and basically worships the suit they're stuck in. If the armour comes off, the suit considers the oath abandoned, kills the guy in the suit, and the suit has to find a new body to take over.
This is a better story than 99% of the end of GoT and everything coming out of Hollywood right now.
@@Comicsluvr I've had a few people say things like that (Honest, I'm not tooting my own horn), but then I'm always the bloody DM so I've got a character backlog of about fifteen dudes!
I want all of the songs Jacob made for the classes in a playlist.
I'm going to make an intelligence 6 paladin just so I can scream *_DEUS VULT!_* at the table randomly.
_As you can infer, I'm quite the beloved role player._
NPC "I Do not worship any god"
Palidan "ROLL INITIATIVE"
I am quite happy seeing the 8th knight of 8 here
👍
Low intelligence paladins can be super fun. I played a Paladin long ago that swore fealty to an evil god who tricked him into thinking He was a benevolent one. He ran around crying blasphemy to anyone who said otherwise, which was...most of the world, actually...
A couple of my friends wanted to try out DMing for the first time, so they made a one-shot. I made an alicorn (half elf, half unicorn), which can detect evil at will..... I was very annoying. Every single room we entered, every new object we found, I shouted "DETECT EVIL!!!"
Eventually they got tired of it, and decided that I detected evil from my womb. Basically my lawful good character gave birth to the BBEG and she was horrified. Good times.
"Smite is too powerful!"
Casts inflict wounds to take out a cr2 enemy with a 2nd level spell slot.
Sorry did you say something?
The music was awesome! Also, the redemption paladin isn't necessarily a character that is repenting.
My favorite kind of paladin is CG. Basically, the character values people and their safety over laws
My paladin is like that.
I've actually considered making a sort of "Dark Paladin" who's sort of a mix between a Chaotic Good Paladin who uses Dark Magic, not really Necromancy, but more blood magic and actual dark energy to protect the innocent and downtrodden civilians he comes across, even going so far as to strike down guards and knights who serve corrupt political figures in defense of the little man.
So basically a Dark Knight for any fellow FF14 fans who get that.
@@crimsonwizahd2358 It kinda sounds like Matt Mercer's Blood Hunter class
What about an oathbreaker paladin who took an evil oath and broke it? He's trying to redeem himself, but not necessarily by taking another oath...
My paladin is that too
God I was hoping this would come out at some point.
One of my favorite characters was an Ex-con paladin trying to turn his life around. A lot of the party members were morally ambiguous, and he UNDERSTOOD where they were coming from, and sympathized with them.
1:54
When your paladin went and multiclassed as a bard.
As a Paladin main:
That World of Light joke was the first thing that made me laugh out loud in days. And fantastic video otherwise!
3:14
I genuinely love this image. It has inspired me to make a character.
I know some will think that if Paladins deviate from the historical Paladins, then you are playing it wrong, which I disagree with, because there should be many kinds of Paladins. I mean, the Warlocks in DND aren't exactly like the historical "warlocks" either. When people think of Warlock, they think of the Fiend or maybe Undying type, and when people think of Paladins, they think of the Oath of Devotion, but there are many kinds of oaths and it doesn't NEED to involve a god. That's what you have clerics for, who are empowered through worship, while Paladins kind of empower themselves through their oath, whoever and whatever they swore it to, and sort of become an avatar of the that idea. There are many kinds of Warlocks like the Celestial. People think if you swear your loyalty to someone evil, you cease being a Paladin, but why? Warlocks and Clerics who are for good or evil entities don't switch their class because they chose to work with someone, because that's not how classes work. I mean, this is DND, so of course the druids, warlocks, ect. aren't going to be exactly like their historical counterparts, and they don't need to be, because this is fantasy, not history.
I mean, a Paladin is still a Paladin because of how they got their power, not who they are in league with. That's what makes a Paladin a Paladin. It's because of the oath they swear to. Warlocks get it from forming pacts, Wizards, study, Sorcerers are born with magic or cursed with it or affected by it in some way, Clerics get it through worshiping gods, and Druids get their power from nature. A Warlock doesn't stop being a Warlock because who they form a pact with. Whether they are celestial or fiend, they are still considered Warlocks. Just like no matter what a Paladin swears and oath, too, it's irrelevant. The fact they are getting it from their oath is enough, whether it's because they swore it to some angel or some devil. And they need to be their own thing, because otherwise, they come off as just a more musclebound Cleric, and we already have those. They're called War Clerics.
this is just so calming. like jokes aside putting this in the background while I type my assignment put me in a good mood.
Imagine a paladin of music who brings joy and goodness to the world through the music
Sooooo a tanky Bard?
entertainer background with oath of the ancients
I decided to play a Bard Paladin as the leader and protector of a gospel choir.
@@DeRM0907 a tankie Bard. Now theres an idea for a character.
@@elim.4204 I'm actually playing one this weekend & I'm already stoked!
Paladin : i am soooo holy
Cleric: am i a joke to you
Cleric Patron : AM I A JOKE TO YOU!
God*
@@skycrafter2042 think he has cleric god and warlock patron mixed up
@ lol clerics players usually don't address their deity as patrons though
Clerics can have (almost) all gods as a patron, like the war, tempest, trickery, or death domains. While paladin's patrons are almost always good.
One time one shoted a hell hound with my paladin. Hit it with my sword with thunderous smite and added a smite. 82 damage. It was awesome!
This is the first video I saw when i was trying to learn about dnd and this channel is one of the main reasons why I got into the hobby.
Oath of the Ancients is great and a lot of fun, I will die on this hill
Aura of Warding is one of the most busted things ever, depending on the campaign.
@@Ranziel1 lol I started using that ability and my DM was like "oh no you must have read that wrong. Let me see th......DAMN!"
My first Character was an Oath of Ancients Paladin, best choice I ever fuckin made
Yea I'm playing an oath of the ancients paladin and it's beast.
My first and only PC is a chaotic good, alcoholic, Talos worshipping, oath of the ancients madman. And he's not the most insane member of the party
The Paladin song gets stuck into my head way more than I would like to admit...
*My Tabaxi oath of devotion paladin is a careful , deep caring and shy guy .*
*But when he goes into battle , turns into a hyper mobile blitzkrieg smiting tank .*
*He practically steam rolled a Night hag in a single turn/round into a frantic retreat .*
A friend of mine played a true nutral paladin and it was honestly one of the best things ever
*THE OATH IS ABANDONED*
DarthBinary Found you again
So you know how Paladins are supposed to be lawful, especially lawful good ones right? Well I have a story
I was playing my third adventure as a dragonic rogue,
We were walking down some stone steps, when one of our members fell, off the stairs, and got knocked out, and then was ambushed,
So my character Ghresh, single handedly (because only I and her had began going down the stairs at the time, so know one heard what was going on) defeated the ambushers (total luck of the dice),
I was left with one HP, less then my party member I saved, however my party gave our only health potion to her,
But then we remembered, the paladin found a med kit,
So I walked up to him, he was standing near another flight of stairs, so I ask him for the kit,
Which he reply’s to saying I don’t deserve it...
(Now to prep for the next bit, understand that I believe you should always do what your character would do, even if it is not recommended)
So Ghresh punches him, and rolls a 20, then a 6 and his strength modifier was +2,
Yet the paladin did not fall down the stairs, even though his back WAS TURNED,
So like any lawful good character, he stabs me with a long sword,
And I die instantly,
The rest of my party then brutally murders him, and he became a hell knight.
So that was fun
Doesn't sound like a person who'd be fun to play with tbh
Crico Cadazzle no he wasn't, he later quit dnd, I was secretly very happy afterwards
@@robozxd2857 Did he get mad when everyone else killed him?
what an asshole
Crico Cadazzle yep, very...
The fun and interesting bit of playing a pally as intended is the intersection of black and white oaths with a gray world.
Cutting that out kills most all of the flavor from a paladin. That's honestly why I'm against the newer, less restrictive versions of a paladin. The abilities were never the differentiator for the class. It's always been fighter with a splash of cleric.
I'm not saying that the pre-3e LG human only was the best way, but the general idea was right. There should have been versions of the paladin for at least all three lawful alignments, and it being linked tightly with a deity is what makes sense, as it's a fighter with cleric splashed. I almost want to say that the truly best way for it to be would be a prestige class or level restricted kit (as in you can't take it until like level 5 or so) in order for you to do enough deeds and become strong enough to actually be your god's enforcer, but it being a base class is too ingrained.
I can see why more mechanically minded players don't like stuff like that because they want access to the mechanics while being able to play things as they want, which is cool. It's a game where we roll dice and pretend that's epic. But restrictions aren't inherently a bad thing nor are they as restrictive as people think, and trying to walk a thin line of keeping your God pleased, keeping your oaths, and the very human desire to keep your friends friends can be awesome to play, especially when the stakes for failing at any one of those are so high.
An idea for a character: A paladin whos oath were their wedding vows, they fell in love with an elf without being one. So they set out to become a lich so they can be with them forever so "death will never part us".
*For the grace and the might of our Lord!*
IN THE NAME OF HIS GLORY
*FOR THE FAITH, FOR THE WAY OF THE SWORD*
GIVE THEIR LIFE SO BOLDY!
FOR THE GRACE AND THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD
In the name of His glory!!
My paladin was of the god of craft because i wanted him to be painter from a rural background who was really easily impressed by everything.
I love him. I want him to grow up healthy. I'll tell my friends and neighbors abo
Is he Greg
@@aarroad574 yep
Honestly, I'm considering a scourge aasimar paladin of vengeance and playing them as something like the Dragonborn from Skyrim.
Tried to find a video on 5e paladin.. watched dozens. This by far was best! Good job bro! Entertaining and I informative! Homerun!
Thanks!
I agree, the paladin is to me the best class, RP and powerwise, together with the warlock, this is a great video. hilarious and pretty just
I was literally rolling up a paladin when this video popped up in my notifications
Gnolls Paladin of Kord
God of war, storms, courage, and chaos.
It was my mom’s first ever time playing D&D, and she played a Gnomish Paladin. It went very well!
I was gonna call my paladin Garth, but the monk was called Garth, so i called him... Greg.
I would have gone with Brooks instead. But then, I'm a big fan of really dumb jokes.
I'm a year late, but this is perfect for my godless Conquest paladin in Descent into Avernus (who is basically Doomguy)
Basically evilish paladins are DOOM guy. 🙏
I'm playing lawful good tiefling paladin of Sune, the oath demands unending love for the party's bard