Welcome to your foil journey, it's extremely challenging! As a 2.5 year foiler with over 40 years of surfing experience, your first impressions are spot on and 100% accurate. Keep at least 70% of your weight on your front foot when taking off. It's easier said than done, being that it's the exact opposite of surfing. There is no rail to set your edge so drop in straight. Targeting and chipping into a crumbly waist-high mush burger will get you going on foil. Even with your surfing experience, expect to be a foil kook for at least 1-2 years! Cheers!
hahaha thanks Jerome! indeed it's certainly waaaaay harder than I expected! Definitely need to aim for smaller, crumbly and mushy waves to practice on, in hindsight this day was certainly not ideal! 🤣
Good on you for sharing the uncensored results. I enjoyed watching you embrace your inner kook. You'll be on your way after some time behind a boat or jetski. Just keep going!
hahaha i'm glad I've given everyone a good chuckle with this one! Thanks for the encouragement, and the tow lesson options certainly seems to be the go based on what everyone has been saying - so that's next on the list!
I started foiling 2 months ago. Step 1 - catch small white wash waves and stay laying down and boogie it as you get the feel of riding the board with a foil under it. (dont pop up on foil) Step 2 - ride it like a dog, knees and hands with weight on hands so you dont flip up and over, (dont pop up on foil) Step 3 - from knees and hands get the foil to pop up and get used to foiling on hands and knees Step 4 - catch a wave, pop up on feet, then pop the foil up.
Nice video, welcome to the foiling journey! Definitely sand down the winglets(tips) on the front foil and maybe the tips of the stabilizer, those takumas can be really sharp and you don't need that when learning(if at all). A shorter mast(65-75cm) will make it easier to handle, paddle, and balance on but you can keep your 85cm for bigger waves. Plus a shorter mast is less likely to hit you in the head or torso when you taco(falling off the rail side uncontrollably towards the foil).
Thanks heaps - everyone seems super spportive! Love it! Might be a good call on the mast, a few people have suggested the same, just a big chuck of dollar to swap!haha!
This Just like the first few sessions when I started Kitefoiling - fell off so many times face first over the front....neck started hurting. Like with surf foiling you have to put your weight over the front - which is counter the normal way of riding which is to stomp in you rear foot. You will finally get it and its great fun
Some people learn quick some other dont but i think only practice will help. Iam at like 120 session and still not connecting yet but close. Like surf condition are very important , and good condition are little clean wave with almost no wind at least less than 10knts, mid tide , avoid fast wave and close out you need between 50cm and 1m flat faced wave im on a beach break but point break can be good too . About your setup your mast seem too long, im using a 75cm mast and it’s more than enough , and your foil seem to push you very often so either the front foil is too big , either the wave is not good for your gear. You have to unlearn what you have been taught in surf, take off must be slow too quick and you will loose balance, foot must be centered on the board ( pro use excentred foot placement) . GOOD LUCK 👍
thanks for the tips! Having just done an e-foil lesson i've learnt a lot about weighting and foot placement so i'm hoping that translates into the ocean quickly as well. I've moved the mast back in the box for the moment to reduce lift whilst i figure it all out...but indeed it's a big learning curve!
It’s definitely ALOT harder than it looks hey? Stick with it and let me know how you go! I’ve actually decided to book a tow lesson to help get my foot weighting and feel of the lift, hopefully that helps!
I'm just learning to Wing foil and still taxiing in light wind and not on foil. I tried an e-foil and it was tough dealing with the twitchy throttle and I'd get on foil and broach or splat back down and crash but it was a great feeling that few seconds of flying. So take my advice as hearsay. From what I saw on videos they say you shouldn't try to take off in the proper surf spot but try a foamy already broken whitewash wave. You don't want to deal with the drop and breaking action. You don't need the drama. If you can catch the broken wave you should rise up. Now you have time to stay forward and balance evenly. That's good advice to keep weight on your hands and get the front foot down before weighting the rear. Keep the foil deep and avoid breaching with aggressive forward pressure. Low flight allows smooth landing,high flight is tippy and has steep reentry angles. Try touch and go landings. Remember where it's too shallow and don't hit the sand. Avoid rocky reefs. Forward pressure may keep the board down letting you get to your feet then you can pump up. If you are lucky and the wave reforms you may get to the shoulder and flow. Try pumping out the back and getting to another wave behind and you'll be living the dream. I want to try but most of the beaches are packed. I have the idea of tying a rope to a bridge support at a estuary rivermouth and waiting for the tide to go out. Maybe there's a couple of hours of smooth laminar flow and I can figure it out. Like water skiing without a boat. You have a good attitude and aren't easily discouraged so you should succeed. Good luck!
Thanks heaps for the advice and encouragement - I’ve booked a few lessons so hopefully that will help kickstart things! I will be sharing more of my progress, so hopefully I’ll improve soon 🤣 Let me know how you get on with the wing foil too, that’s also on my list to learn!
@@StokedForTravel I tried efoiling once and taco'd it right onto the foil. Luckily, I only bruised by forearms and hip. Super sketch. My buddy loaned me his efoil but I haven't taken it out yet.
You have to practice foiling behind a boat, or wing foiling, or maybe kite foil. You have to build up the foil muscle memory before you try prone foiling, that’s an advanced foil discipline. Larry
As you bring your back leg onto the deck you're trying to put your weight onto your back foot - whereas you need to keep your weight on yours hands, get your back foot on (still weighted on your hands) then bring your front foot onto the board - then stand up :) Easy ......;) But as others have said. Learning behind a jetski will save you HOURS and HOURS of suffering in the surf.
Thanks for the advice Dave - indeed watching it in slow mo I definitely need to change my mindset from surfing to foiling, it just vanishes once I’m paddling for a wave 🤣 Got some tow lessons booked in this week so fingers crossed that helps jumpstart everything! 🤞🤞
What about the feeling of just paddling the foil board? Becoming aware of the mast and wing sensation underneath I thought felt very foreign, compared to surfing. Do you agree? 🤔
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Welcome to your foil journey, it's extremely challenging! As a 2.5 year foiler with over 40 years of surfing experience, your first impressions are spot on and 100% accurate. Keep at least 70% of your weight on your front foot when taking off. It's easier said than done, being that it's the exact opposite of surfing. There is no rail to set your edge so drop in straight. Targeting and chipping into a crumbly waist-high mush burger will get you going on foil. Even with your surfing experience, expect to be a foil kook for at least 1-2 years! Cheers!
hahaha thanks Jerome! indeed it's certainly waaaaay harder than I expected! Definitely need to aim for smaller, crumbly and mushy waves to practice on, in hindsight this day was certainly not ideal! 🤣
Good on you for sharing the uncensored results. I enjoyed watching you embrace your inner kook. You'll be on your way after some time behind a boat or jetski. Just keep going!
hahaha i'm glad I've given everyone a good chuckle with this one! Thanks for the encouragement, and the tow lesson options certainly seems to be the go based on what everyone has been saying - so that's next on the list!
I started foiling 2 months ago.
Step 1 - catch small white wash waves and stay laying down and boogie it as you get the feel of riding the board with a foil under it. (dont pop up on foil)
Step 2 - ride it like a dog, knees and hands with weight on hands so you dont flip up and over, (dont pop up on foil)
Step 3 - from knees and hands get the foil to pop up and get used to foiling on hands and knees
Step 4 - catch a wave, pop up on feet, then pop the foil up.
Thanks for the tips! Certainly need to adjust my expectations and go back to basics 🤣🤣
Nice video, welcome to the foiling journey!
Definitely sand down the winglets(tips) on the front foil and maybe the tips of the stabilizer, those takumas can be really sharp and you don't need that when learning(if at all).
A shorter mast(65-75cm) will make it easier to handle, paddle, and balance on but you can keep your 85cm for bigger waves. Plus a shorter mast is less likely to hit you in the head or torso when you taco(falling off the rail side uncontrollably towards the foil).
Thanks heaps - everyone seems super spportive! Love it! Might be a good call on the mast, a few people have suggested the same, just a big chuck of dollar to swap!haha!
This Just like the first few sessions when I started Kitefoiling - fell off so many times face first over the front....neck started hurting. Like with surf foiling you have to put your weight over the front - which is counter the normal way of riding which is to stomp in you rear foot. You will finally get it and its great fun
thanks for the tips! Indeed weighting is certainly the biggest thing to re-learn after surfing but glad to know it's worth the effort!
Some people learn quick some other dont but i think only practice will help. Iam at like 120 session and still not connecting yet but close.
Like surf condition are very important , and good condition are little clean wave with almost no wind at least less than 10knts, mid tide , avoid fast wave and close out you need between 50cm and 1m flat faced wave im on a beach break but point break can be good too . About your setup your mast seem too long, im using a 75cm mast and it’s more than enough , and your foil seem to push you very often so either the front foil is too big , either the wave is not good for your gear.
You have to unlearn what you have been taught in surf, take off must be slow too quick and you will loose balance, foot must be centered on the board ( pro use excentred foot placement) . GOOD LUCK 👍
thanks for the tips! Having just done an e-foil lesson i've learnt a lot about weighting and foot placement so i'm hoping that translates into the ocean quickly as well. I've moved the mast back in the box for the moment to reduce lift whilst i figure it all out...but indeed it's a big learning curve!
Looks like fun! 🙌 And hard 😂
Yes to both 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you I needed that, went for my first time yesterday and it went pretty much exactly the same.
It’s definitely ALOT harder than it looks hey? Stick with it and let me know how you go! I’ve actually decided to book a tow lesson to help get my foot weighting and feel of the lift, hopefully that helps!
I'm just learning to Wing foil and still taxiing in light wind and not on foil.
I tried an e-foil and it was tough dealing with the twitchy throttle and I'd get on foil and broach or splat back down and crash but it was a great feeling that few seconds of flying.
So take my advice as hearsay.
From what I saw on videos they say you shouldn't try to take off in the proper surf spot but try a foamy already broken whitewash wave.
You don't want to deal with the drop and breaking action. You don't need the drama. If you can catch the broken wave you should rise up.
Now you have time to stay forward and balance evenly. That's good advice to keep weight on your hands and get the front foot down before weighting the rear.
Keep the foil deep and avoid breaching with aggressive forward pressure. Low flight allows smooth landing,high flight is tippy and has steep reentry angles. Try touch and go landings.
Remember where it's too shallow and don't hit the sand. Avoid rocky reefs.
Forward pressure may keep the board down letting you get to your feet then you can pump up.
If you are lucky and the wave reforms you may get to the shoulder and flow.
Try pumping out the back and getting to another wave behind and you'll be living the dream.
I want to try but most of the beaches are packed. I have the idea of tying a rope to a bridge support at a estuary rivermouth and waiting for the tide to go out. Maybe there's a couple of hours of smooth laminar flow and I can figure it out. Like water skiing without a boat.
You have a good attitude and aren't easily discouraged so you should succeed. Good luck!
Thanks heaps for the advice and encouragement - I’ve booked a few lessons so hopefully that will help kickstart things!
I will be sharing more of my progress, so hopefully I’ll improve soon 🤣
Let me know how you get on with the wing foil too, that’s also on my list to learn!
that looks scary as F. I'd want a helmet with a face guard. Thanks for posting this. I was curious as well, I may need to get one asap. haha
Hahaha yeah it’s definitely pretty hectic and dangerous and sooooo different from surfing! But it’s also well worth the time - so much fun! 🎉
@@StokedForTravel I tried efoiling once and taco'd it right onto the foil. Luckily, I only bruised by forearms and hip. Super sketch. My buddy loaned me his efoil but I haven't taken it out yet.
@@ThomyeSurfs yeah slow and steady with plenty of safety gear!haha! Once you get the glide though you'll be hooked bro, so much fun!
You have to practice foiling behind a boat, or wing foiling, or maybe kite foil. You have to build up the foil muscle memory before you try prone foiling, that’s an advanced foil discipline. Larry
thanks for the advice Larry! Indeed i've opted to do some tow and efoil lessons to kickstart everything and help figure it out!
Use a shorter mast -72ish cm. Less drag and you can go shallower
Thanks Warren, bit of an expensive mistake to correct but might have to try and find one!
As you bring your back leg onto the deck you're trying to put your weight onto your back foot - whereas you need to keep your weight on yours hands, get your back foot on (still weighted on your hands) then bring your front foot onto the board - then stand up :) Easy ......;) But as others have said. Learning behind a jetski will save you HOURS and HOURS of suffering in the surf.
Thanks for the advice Dave - indeed watching it in slow mo I definitely need to change my mindset from surfing to foiling, it just vanishes once I’m paddling for a wave 🤣
Got some tow lessons booked in this week so fingers crossed that helps jumpstart everything! 🤞🤞
What about the feeling of just paddling the foil board? Becoming aware of the mast and wing sensation underneath I thought felt very foreign, compared to surfing. Do you agree? 🤔
I didn’t find paddling too different, except when I went to turn the board and then I became very aware of the extra bits underneath!
Need a tow mate.
Fk that, keep it.
Challenge, understatement, misconception more like it.
Yeah the tow session option to get some of the basics nailed is certainly on the cards!
Get your weight further forward and front foot in position first to keep that nose down.
Yeah for sure - the weight adjustment compared with surfing is definitely the biggest obstacle!haha! 🤣