You are spot on about the bhaptics comparison. I actually have both vests and the one I regret most is the bhaptics. The bhaptics motors are smaller and have an audible buzz/whine to them which is very annoying when wearing index or quest over ear solution.(quite immersion breaking) also the vest is tighter and warmer due to the full on zip-up nature of the vest . Basically sweaty garbage on a hot day... Not to mention because it fits right it's just less comfortable. The power button is located just below your neck at the back and it's touch sensitive so leaning back in your chair to play a game it has the tendency to turn on/off by itself , In direct music mode , put on equal footing with the woojer it doesn't even come close to the deep silent rumble the woojer provides.
I have had my Woojer Vest 3 for almost a year and still friggin AMAZING I'm a 54 yr old female and still love rockn out on the drums or rockn out on the guitar but my Woojer Vest 3 makes every and any game or music TV my fav is watching 3D movies if I'm not ROCKN Out on Smash Drums/Drums rock 2 of my fav games but my Woojer Vest 3 makes everything more intense this Vest 10 out of 10 so worth the money I def recommend this Vest to everybody who loves gaming TV music you can hook it up to anything with blue tooth you will thank me later 🤟🏼🔊🔥🏆 💺🥽🦺🫨🎧😎
So for a black friday special , this vest was discounted down from $499 to $419... then it was open box in excellent condition so my final tax w/ tax was about $400. It IS well made and seemingly built to last ... but ... even at $400 , a bit out of my budget considering the Meta 3 came out at $499. It's mentioned there is an app for this and maybe one day thru the app the Vest 3 can respond to games intended feedback vs audio... then this would be worth it for gaming.
Say you got a achy back seeking massage confort. After buying a DBOX movie ticket, my back feels great. Your thoughts and input. HOW ABOUT Woojer vs a TENS device? Thanks!
I would not recommend BHapics for immersion, it just feels like a massage instead of a direct & instant impact from the transducers. I returned my BHaptic vest instantly after using a subpac for years. I always use my subpac using VR for gaming, movies, or music listening & can’t do it without it
You summed-up the experience of using haptic vests very well. I don't use mine often anymore but it does really add immersion in many situations. I feel like a Subpac salesman at this point, but I was lucky to find them selling offical refurb vests of the Subpac M2 in 2018/19 and picked one up for £199 (although shipping was £65!). It's a great tool to have but I admit I don't use it nearly enough. It adds another dimension though when already combining 2 personal hobbies of music and VR - Using the vest in apps like Vinyl Reality. I haven't played Beat Saber for years but the vest works incredibly well with the OST stuff in that game 'cos the music is generally very bass-heavy. Honestly a great experience that everyone who likes Beat Saber should try imo. You won't want to play it again without a vest!
I’ll have to look into Subpac too. I’ve only ever vaguely heard of it over the past few years (probably through comments or on Reddit), but it seems quite a well regarded product.
Given the price vs even the top end bHaptics vest, there's no reason to buy one of these for VR over the something like the x40 bHaptics - not that I'd pick up one of those either. It's all too much friction - I don't even use my Buttkicker, and all you have to do is sit in a chair and plug it in to use it.
The friction is a thing, but I think I’m still in the novelty stage. I’ve just got out of playing NMS for 45 minutes, and the thought to not wear the Woojer never even crossed my mind. We’ll see if that remains the case in a month’s time!
the woojer and the x40 serve kinda 2 different purposes the woojer is far more powerful then the x40 but the x40 can do better localized haptics but if you want something to really punch you or really feel an explosion or feel a gun shot the woojer is far closer to that then the x40
Rip off Britian again, Nice honest review. thanks IR. my worry is When they charge UK more for an item they are worried about our warranty laws and they want extra to cover that. Maybe this is not an item that would last 2 years so they cover their back, will never buy it just for that reason
I agree that price would be perfect. It just doesn’t seem possible for them to reach that while making any viable profit unfortunately - at least that’s what I can only assume due to their standard pricing.
For that price, hard to recommend even when you use it for more than VR. I have a simple bass shaker on my seat what I use in ED and I think it is really better for such games when the rumble comes over the chair and it is a lot cheaper. But if you want to play while standing, yeah, then such a vest is better, but maybe then better a bhaptics one for that price. Problem is, it is a niche device and so not a mass market product, that often makes such products too expensive.
Yeah yikes that price is crazy. Only reason I have the Woojer Vest 2 is that I bought it on their crowdfunding Indiegogo campaign for less than half that price. I think it was 250
It's just like having bass in your car but portable. I use it for games and music. Find it disappointing, honestly. I was hoping it was catch more sounds but it doesn't
The thing I basically want to know is, will i feel the direction of shots on Onward VR or will i feel the punches in Thrill of the fight? Does it let you feel the direction of shots at you when you are hit by gunfire in VR?
They have promised to release a SDK for developers so they can support the vest in game and then you will get the directional haptics they will also be releasing multi channel audio support and that will provide directional support as well the firmware update is schedualed to come out in 2024
Thank you all this was my question too. Without directional haptics it’s pointless to buy it. I already have a gaming chair with vibrations so was hoping the vest would be directional but it seems it isn’t!
I see you have a bunch of guitars hanging in the background. I want to know if anybody has used this For playing Bass Guitar or Drums, Is there latency, can this be used as a direct input monitor? Listening to and playing along with music was my primary use case.
With a hardwired connection, I’ve noticed only very minimal latency. However I have not used it specifically for the use case you outlined so I’d need to try it before being certain.
Is there any rattling noise from the transducers on higher levels? I do have their single strap and at the level 9 or 10 it starts making rattling noises like something about to break kind of like a rattling subwoofer that’s being overloaded
Not that I’ve noticed, no, and I’ve used it pretty much maxed out. I’m not saying that wouldn’t necessarily occur, I’m just saying that I honestly have never had rattling at all.
no not really if you have the feedback maxed out and you get some wild bass some times you can hear the power button shake a bit but the transducers are just about silent i play with a home theater system and at a moderate volume i cant even hear anything from the vest only reason i know its there is the bass pressure in my ears when its going wild lol
I'm torn. I have a bass shaker in my chair already, so I don't need *more* bass, but I do want a haptic vest. The impact would be great in Halo and rhythm games (Rez, Samba de Amigo, Tetris Effect?, DDR, etc.), and I'm sure a good time in other action games like Armored Core, etc. But... I *also* want the nuanced haptics of a bHaptics x40 in VR games and such. Why can't I have both? Wait... could I wear a Woojer on top of a bHaptics, and... Nah. That sounds terrible and uncomfortable. Still. I can spend $300 less and get a Woojer (last gen) right now, and I'm super torn. Is bHaptics $300 better? *Sigh* It might be, for me. Maybe especially because I have the in-seat bass shaker setup already. Razer is (maybe) releasing their stereo haptic chair someday, and that could be amazing/could potentially make this obsolete for me. I dunno. I've heard the feeling of a Halo grenade going off on a Woojer is pretty amazing, though... *Sigh*
Some people certainly pick this up purely to enhance the music listening experience and seem to enjoy it. I think using it with speakers will be perfectly fine in the right scenario (i.e. loud!)
@@michaelsun1654 Sorry for the late reply. The noise from the vest is actually quite minimal imo. It's not like a chair transducer or anything like that. It's relatively low in terms of unwanted noise.
You are spot on about the bhaptics comparison. I actually have both vests and the one I regret most is the bhaptics.
The bhaptics motors are smaller and have an audible buzz/whine to them which is very annoying when wearing index or quest over ear solution.(quite immersion breaking)
also the vest is tighter and warmer due to the full on zip-up nature of the vest . Basically sweaty garbage on a hot day...
Not to mention because it fits right it's just less comfortable. The power button is located just below your neck at the back and it's touch sensitive so leaning back in your chair to play a game it has the tendency to turn on/off by itself ,
In direct music mode , put on equal footing with the woojer it doesn't even come close to the deep silent rumble the woojer provides.
Thanks for the information about the bhaptics, it puts the use of that vest in more context for me since I haven't tried it before.
I have had my Woojer Vest 3 for almost a year and still friggin AMAZING I'm a 54 yr old female and still love rockn out on the drums or rockn out on the guitar but my Woojer Vest 3 makes every and any game or music TV my fav is watching 3D movies if I'm not ROCKN Out on Smash Drums/Drums rock 2 of my fav games but my Woojer Vest 3 makes everything more intense this Vest 10 out of 10 so worth the money I def recommend this Vest to everybody who loves gaming TV music you can hook it up to anything with blue tooth you will thank me later 🤟🏼🔊🔥🏆
💺🥽🦺🫨🎧😎
One of the best haptic sensations in Elite for me is deploying my hardpoints.
So for a black friday special , this vest was discounted down from $499 to $419... then it was open box in excellent condition so my final tax w/ tax was about $400. It IS well made and seemingly built to last ... but ... even at $400 , a bit out of my budget considering the Meta 3 came out at $499. It's mentioned there is an app for this and maybe one day thru the app the Vest 3 can respond to games intended feedback vs audio... then this would be worth it for gaming.
They are 200$ now on woot! I am undecided to purchase one.
That should be Woojers slogan.
"Woojer, it adds ..something"😅
If they want to use that, then I'd like to think they'd ask my permission! 😁
Say you got a achy back seeking massage confort. After buying a DBOX movie ticket, my back feels great. Your thoughts and input. HOW ABOUT Woojer vs a TENS device? Thanks!
Great review!
I would not recommend BHapics for immersion, it just feels like a massage instead of a direct & instant impact from the transducers. I returned my BHaptic vest instantly after using a subpac for years. I always use my subpac using VR for gaming, movies, or music listening & can’t do it without it
You summed-up the experience of using haptic vests very well. I don't use mine often anymore but it does really add immersion in many situations. I feel like a Subpac salesman at this point, but I was lucky to find them selling offical refurb vests of the Subpac M2 in 2018/19 and picked one up for £199 (although shipping was £65!). It's a great tool to have but I admit I don't use it nearly enough. It adds another dimension though when already combining 2 personal hobbies of music and VR - Using the vest in apps like Vinyl Reality. I haven't played Beat Saber for years but the vest works incredibly well with the OST stuff in that game 'cos the music is generally very bass-heavy. Honestly a great experience that everyone who likes Beat Saber should try imo. You won't want to play it again without a vest!
I’ll have to look into Subpac too. I’ve only ever vaguely heard of it over the past few years (probably through comments or on Reddit), but it seems quite a well regarded product.
Given the price vs even the top end bHaptics vest, there's no reason to buy one of these for VR over the something like the x40 bHaptics - not that I'd pick up one of those either. It's all too much friction - I don't even use my Buttkicker, and all you have to do is sit in a chair and plug it in to use it.
The friction is a thing, but I think I’m still in the novelty stage. I’ve just got out of playing NMS for 45 minutes, and the thought to not wear the Woojer never even crossed my mind. We’ll see if that remains the case in a month’s time!
@@ImmersedRobotIf you can sit comfortably then a haptic vest goes nicely with NMS.
the woojer and the x40 serve kinda 2 different purposes the woojer is far more powerful then the x40 but the x40 can do better localized haptics but if you want something to really punch you or really feel an explosion or feel a gun shot the woojer is far closer to that then the x40
Rip off Britian again, Nice honest review. thanks IR. my worry is When they charge UK more for an item they are worried about our warranty laws and they want extra to cover that. Maybe this is not an item that would last 2 years so they cover their back, will never buy it just for that reason
I just bought the Woojer Strap 3 🥳🥁🎶🎧👌
at 200 retail and sales as low as 140 would move this thing. They need to pick a market and price it accordingly
I agree that price would be perfect. It just doesn’t seem possible for them to reach that while making any viable profit unfortunately - at least that’s what I can only assume due to their standard pricing.
For that price, hard to recommend even when you use it for more than VR. I have a simple bass shaker on my seat what I use in ED and I think it is really better for such games when the rumble comes over the chair and it is a lot cheaper. But if you want to play while standing, yeah, then such a vest is better, but maybe then better a bhaptics one for that price.
Problem is, it is a niche device and so not a mass market product, that often makes such products too expensive.
Yeah yikes that price is crazy. Only reason I have the Woojer Vest 2 is that I bought it on their crowdfunding Indiegogo campaign for less than half that price. I think it was 250
It's just like having bass in your car but portable. I use it for games and music. Find it disappointing, honestly. I was hoping it was catch more sounds but it doesn't
The thing I basically want to know is, will i feel the direction of shots on Onward VR or will i feel the punches in Thrill of the fight? Does it let you feel the direction of shots at you when you are hit by gunfire in VR?
No, this doesn’t allow for that.
@@ImmersedRobot thanks for that info!
They have promised to release a SDK for developers so they can support the vest in game and then you will get the directional haptics they will also be releasing multi channel audio support and that will provide directional support as well the firmware update is schedualed to come out in 2024
Thank you all this was my question too. Without directional haptics it’s pointless to buy it. I already have a gaming chair with vibrations so was hoping the vest would be directional but it seems it isn’t!
I see you have a bunch of guitars hanging in the background. I want to know if anybody has used this For playing Bass Guitar or Drums, Is there latency, can this be used as a direct input monitor? Listening to and playing along with music was my primary use case.
With a hardwired connection, I’ve noticed only very minimal latency. However I have not used it specifically for the use case you outlined so I’d need to try it before being certain.
Is there any rattling noise from the transducers on higher levels? I do have their single strap and at the level 9 or 10 it starts making rattling noises like something about to break kind of like a rattling subwoofer that’s being overloaded
Not that I’ve noticed, no, and I’ve used it pretty much maxed out. I’m not saying that wouldn’t necessarily occur, I’m just saying that I honestly have never had rattling at all.
no not really if you have the feedback maxed out and you get some wild bass some times you can hear the power button shake a bit but the transducers are just about silent i play with a home theater system and at a moderate volume i cant even hear anything from the vest only reason i know its there is the bass pressure in my ears when its going wild lol
Noice!
I'm torn. I have a bass shaker in my chair already, so I don't need *more* bass, but I do want a haptic vest. The impact would be great in Halo and rhythm games (Rez, Samba de Amigo, Tetris Effect?, DDR, etc.), and I'm sure a good time in other action games like Armored Core, etc. But... I *also* want the nuanced haptics of a bHaptics x40 in VR games and such. Why can't I have both? Wait... could I wear a Woojer on top of a bHaptics, and... Nah. That sounds terrible and uncomfortable. Still. I can spend $300 less and get a Woojer (last gen) right now, and I'm super torn. Is bHaptics $300 better? *Sigh* It might be, for me. Maybe especially because I have the in-seat bass shaker setup already.
Razer is (maybe) releasing their stereo haptic chair someday, and that could be amazing/could potentially make this obsolete for me. I dunno.
I've heard the feeling of a Halo grenade going off on a Woojer is pretty amazing, though... *Sigh*
very nice revieve
Thx for the review. Is it worth buying it for music? Also, it seems you have to use it with headphones. Using it with speakers loses the immersion?
Some people certainly pick this up purely to enhance the music listening experience and seem to enjoy it. I think using it with speakers will be perfectly fine in the right scenario (i.e. loud!)
@@ImmersedRobot the for the reply. I guess you need to turn the speakers loud because of the rumble noise from the vest?
@@michaelsun1654 Sorry for the late reply. The noise from the vest is actually quite minimal imo. It's not like a chair transducer or anything like that. It's relatively low in terms of unwanted noise.
@@ImmersedRobot good to know. Thank you for your reply :)
Thank you for the review. What do you think if the vest could be purchased for 330€ brand new ?
That sounds much closer to a good price for this device imo, yes. I've just looked and that's about £289. which is not bad at all.
What was your experience like in Elite when wearing this?
It was very good, although I think I’d lean more towards the ButtKicker for that particular title.
Listen to bleed w meshugga!
how long does it take to ship?
Mine arrived in less than a week.