Обожаю Хворостовского. Оперу слушала, только в исполнении Хворостовского. Жаль , что так рано ушёл из жизни. Димашу респект за то, что он решился на это. И благодаря Димашу миллионы его поклонников слушают оперу. Меня удивило то, что многие реакционеры не слушали П. Доминго никогда раньше. Это выступление Димаша большой вклад продвижению интереса к опере. Спасибо за познавательную реакцию .
Димаш не делит музыку на разные, отдельные друг от друга направления. Димаш воспринимает музыку целиком, как единое целое. Он воспринимает звук, звучание, гармонию звуков. Он неоднократно говорил, что любит оперу и классическую музыку, петь бельканто для него комфортно. Но та нет места для интерпретаций, нового опыта и собственного прочтения. И поэтому он выбрал кроссовер или поп-оперу.
Dimash is singing with and has to be cognizant of not overpowering an 83 year old man who admitted prior to their duet that he no longer has the same voice he used to have. Dimash grew up admiring both Domingo and Pavarotti and to be able to sing with Domingo was a great honor to him.
I'll be honest, I prefer the duet between Plácido Domingo and Dimash because they managed to reach my heart, I was moved, the other duo, although very talented, doesn't touch my heart Greetings from Brazil.♥️♥️🇧🇷
Thank you William! Great analysis. And in the duet Kaufmann & Hvorostovky, Dmitry Hvorostovsky is my favorite singer, and in the duet Dimash & Domingo, Dimash is my favorite singer))) As you correctly noted, Dimash does not at all pretend to be an opera singer, this is not his role. However, singing in a duet with his idol Placido is an important moment for Dimash, I think so.
Thank you, William, your comparison from the point of view of an esteem professional that you are is a pleasure to follow. Dimash is excellent in bringing the beauty of the opera music to the younger generation, such an amazing example of classics meet modern perception of music❤
Love this! What an interesting comparison. Beautiful men and beautiful singing! Hvorostovsky - gone too soon. Had he lived, I am sure he would have performed with Dimash at some point.
Thanks for listening. Some people got. bit hot under collar thinking I was being critical of Dimash and Domingo. Others thought it was wrong to make comparisons with 'real' opera singers! In fact, all I wished to do was to answer some questions about vocal style, technique and voice categorisation. It is crazy to say, "Dimash sometimes sings like a baritone." What does that even mean? Kaufmann does too, if that's the case. And Domingo is clearly a tenor who likes to sing lower parts now. But the big difference was the closed vowels of Kaufmann, particularly on high notes. Dimash doesn't imply this technique and therefore sounds less 'operatic.'
@@BangkokVoiceCoach however "operatic" Dimash sounds I think it's wonderful that he introduces people to such a wide range of music. Today I've witnessed two men in tears at this piece and one who said that after a terrible day, just listening to this wiped everything away. That's what counts, not this snobbishness of what's true Opera or not, just the fact that two incredible voices singing music written so long ago can bring joy and peace to so many different people today.
@debbiemorgan859 Debbie I couldn’t agree with you more! Your comment hits the point! The opera world is incredibly snobbish; not just the management but the audience too!! And, what’s more, often people aren’t even responding to the music. Do you think Bizet imagined his music would be performed 150 later? And people would be moved to tears by his duet?
Сказать, что дуэт Димаша с Пласидо Доминго звучал хуже, чем у двух известнейших певцов современности, будет совершенно неправильно. По другому- да, но хуже - нет. У Хворостовского очень сильный голос, не сравнить с голосом 82 летнего Доминго и если бы Димаш использовал свой голос на всю мощь, то партнера не было бы слышно вообще. Это же касается и концовки дуэте, где, скорее всего Доминго надо было сделать паузу, так как в этом возрасте объем легких уже не тот , что раньше, а мы знаем, что Димаш может без вдыхания воздуха петь 25 секунд. Это конечно точка зрения дилетанта. А учитывая, что вышеназванные оперные певцы пели этот дуэт не в первый раз, то исполнение Димаша- прекрасное
Уильям, вы превосходный, вас слушаю с придыханием, потому что хочу понимать происходящее с позиции профессионала. Я влюблена в дуэт Доминго и Димаша, он разливается так сладко в моей душе. Это прекрасное пение, современное звучание, Димаш новатор, ледокол, очень щедрый бескорыстный гений. Всех продвигает, всех поднимает до неба, всем рад помочь. Виват Димаш🎉❤всем здоровья и помощи Всевышнего
Я с Вами согласна полностью. Прекрасное соединение музыки 19 века и звучания 21 века. Димаш мне напоминает творцов импрессионизма в живописи, которые не отрицая классики, обогатили и внесли новаторство в восприятие прекрасного. Слушая одного из реакционеров,где он ставил в вину Димашу переход от тенора к баритону, по-моему скромному мнению, именно это обогатило звучание этого прекрасного творения Бизе
What can I say, I love all Kaufmann- Hvorostovky, Domingo-Qudaibergen. Dreamy voices that make my heart beat harder, I just know that there are different types of beauty. Thank you William, you are very much appreciated.
Thank you for this comparrison! I think that if Dimash had become an opera singer, as offered, he would sound different today. He would have more of that opera sound that Kaufmann has. But I love his duet with Placido, it still gives me chills.
WOW thank you William the contrasting, but still mind-blowing, singing of all 4 gentlemen still takes my breath away.. Thank you for your 'pearls of wisdom' and knowledge. I shall listen once again and enjoy it all. Heartiest best wishes from Wales.
Как хорошо сказали, тёплый светлый голос Димаша! Поражает уровень его профессионализма, одна спевка, французский язык! И как прекрасно сливаются их голоса!
Hola William, gracias por la explicación fue muy ilustrativa y en mi caso, solo sirvió para enamorarme más de la actuación de Dimash y Plácido Domingo en donde terminó con los ojos húmedos por lo que me hacen sentir, la otra presentación la sentí fría y sin alma, cuestión de gustos, técnicas y conexión. Saludos desde México.
I found your analysis fascinating William. Most Dears don't have as much experience or training in the classical and operatic voice as you do so we do miss quite a lot when Dimash sings in that style. I remember defending Dimash against the criticism that he could not sing opera like a trained opera singer, who can project the voice to the back of the auditorium without a microphone. Well, it's probably true. He has never claimed to sing opera. He uses some of the techniques when he wants to add dynamics to a song. He always uses a microphone (unless singing in private). He is also only 29 years old. I have been told that singers who only sing opera do not start singing it properly in roles on stage until after the age of 35. It takes time to gain maturity. I think that anyone criticising Dimash for not singing opera correctly is not understanding what his chosen purpose is - and that is to make his music accessible to everyone, everywhere, and to spread love and connection. By limiting himself to one genre he would not fulfil that destiny. He is Dimash, and he is so much more than an opera singer. And I'm glad. We are lucky to be alive now and be able to have our lives changed by him in such positive ways. Although the other duet was very fine, when Dimash started to sing the climax in his definitive soaring style it took my soul with it and my heart beat faster and I even held my breath. Perhaps we feel his own soul soaring and it takes ours with it ❤😂
This makes me wonder, I've been reading a lot of comments from youtubers - fans and haters alike and been listening to opera singers in reactions and mostly the most or as if the greatest difference between Dimash's singing and full opera is the power of the voice being able to project with and without a microphone - I mean, does that even matter in a world where we access the most remote part of the world virtually? Our ears can compare whatever we can hear out of an electronic medium, and even that is not standard/the same for all. If we are comparing singing in an opera house with all its acoustics in place, and singing in a regular theater or stadium or non-opera house venues, then the argument is valid. But I think it is pointless so the comparison should be the quality of the voice at least. Dimash has that - quality, versatility, power - you name it. P.S. Glad I didn't hear that "power of voice without a mic" comparison here. It's actually okay, as long as that is not the focus. Thank you Bangkok Voice Coach!
Actually I have to point out something that isn't true at all, the mics here were purely for the TV recording. William himself pointed this out earlier. There was no loudspeaker system visible in the theatre. Also Dimash has been seen in concert performing without a microphone, even in a massive stadium. If he knows the acoustics are right he will often finish Autumn Strong without a microphone. There is a whole video on RUclips of moments when Dimash performed without a microphone, even once when a mic fails halfway through a song. He adjusts his technique and finishes the song without it.
Speaking completely objectively, not even as a Dear I honestly preferred Dimash's version. I'm not an experienced opera buff, I couldn't tell you why but just the tone, the openness and richness yet lightness of Dimash's voice was more pleasing to my ear. I could (and have) listened to Dimash's version endlessly. The other one, not so much. Once would be enough.
@@BangkokVoiceCoachit wasn't so much nasal to me, but a thick throat, not clean. Also I just don't get the open and closed vowels thing, they all sound complete to me aeiou etc. I also didn't hear the difference in the tone between K and D, too similar, whereas Dimash sounded more tenor to me than Kaufmann
Many bel canto teachers have found that Dimash provides a cross-interpretation between rigid classical singing (which has to follow certain rules and exactly what the author of the piece wrote, from the notes and durations, the portamentos, the expressiveness... Everything) and most popular flexibility. For purists, let us remember that Dimash dreamed of singing with Plácido Domingos since he was little and it was the Maestro himself, Don Domingos, who suggested the duet. Dimash only had one day to remember the work and make the recording as this moment is part of the competition (like a talent show) for children with musical talent: The “Virtuosos”! Dimash, in addition to Plácido Domingos, were part of the Juri, accompanied by Erika Miklósa (opera singer), Adrás Keller (violinist, conductor and musical director of the Budapest Concert), Hauser (cellist), Plácido Domingos Jr. composer), Pablo Sanz Villegas (classical guitarist), GAbriela Rachid (cultural director) and Harvey Goldsmith (music promoter)! The show was in Budapest (Hungary) from January 16th to 26th this year, 2024!
Простите, это моё личное мнение. Благодаря своему отцу, большому любителю оперы, я с малых лет росла в атмосфере оперы. Я считаю, что казахские оперные певцы были на голову выше, нежели российские. Просто в советские времена у них не было выхода на мировую арену. Что касается Хворостовского и Кауфмана, хотя я не раз слушала именно этот их дуэт, но никакого отклика в моей душе не возникало. Я могу признать талант Хворостовского, но, он для скучен. Мои родители пытались приобщиться меня к классике, но мне было не интересно. И вот чудо, нелюбимая мной опера стала мне близка и понятна, буквально обворожила меня в небольшом кусочке сто раз пересмотренной и переслушанной мной (требование папы) оперы Бизе. Я сама не могу поверить, что столь неоюбимая мной опера (я конечно предпочитала Битлс, Фредди Меркьюри, Джо Дассена, Эдит Пиаф и ло.) Обворжила меня в исполнении легенды Маэстро Домино и моего соотечественника Димаша. Браво двум мастерам. Есть надежда, что классика не умрёт, когда есть Димаш.
Art takes many forms and it doesn’t matter which method people use to sing. It is more important that the feelings and emotions are delivered and received by audience. Dimash certainly does a wonderful job on that. Great performances by both. I personally prefer Dimash’s version, as it is more suitable for most people who are not used to listen to operas all the time.
So true!! The opera world is very judgmental and critical. It is marvellous that the fans of Dimash are always full of love and appreciation. It is great to see this. ❤️🙏
Хороший сравнительный анализ. Хочу высказать свое мнение, основанное на знании того, каким студентом был Димаш. Димаш всегда готовил к уроку несколько версий той или иной арии, или партии. заданных его учителем. Он отсматривал все доступные записи данного произведения самыми разными исполнителями, и затем показывал СВОЮ версию. Так говорит о нем Марат Айтимов - его преподаватель. Таким образом, Димаш не мог не видеть этого исполнения и знает о приемах, показанных этими певцами. Но он выбрал свой вариант, без театрального расширения, значит, считал его излишним. Благодарю за прекрасный анализ.
@@bekydelacaridadtoledogutie1839 I chuckled at this Beky, I went from thinking figurative to literal then back 😄 I too would have loved if this duet happened! I hope Dimash will have a duet with somebody like Dmitri in the future, and no holding back whatsoever hopefully.
I have listened to the others once a long time ago and have no interest in repeating; however I will never tire of repeatedly listening to this magical performance by Dimash and Domingo
The only reason I listen to any music is whether I enjoy listening to it, not at all its technical aspects. There are some very few and rare performances I relate to so profoundly that I will listen to them repeatedly with great pleasure--Dimash and Domingo is one of these
El solo hecho de comparar ambos dúos, ya nos habla de la calidad excelsa de los intérpretes Gracias por darnos está pequeña joya para mejor comprensión de lo que estamos viendo...y viviendo. Un saludo desde Chile, en el extremo sur del mundo
Я честно не большой знаток в технике оперного пения. Но чисто как слушателю мне дуэт Доминго и Димаша понравился больше - мягче, нежнее, проникновенно. И какое красивое сочетание голосов! Это мое впечатление. I'm honestly not a great expert in opera singing techniques. But as a listener, I liked the duet of Domingo and Dimash more - softer, more tender. Аnd such a beautiful combination of voices!
Que interesante conocer más sobre esta obra de Georges Bizet, que gracias a Dimash llegó a mis oídos. De Bizet solo conocía "Carmen". El dúo de Dimash con P. Domingo ha sido espectacular. Me di el tiempo de revisar otros dúos, cada cuál con su belleza interpretativa, pero tal como comentó alguien más....el dúo con Dimash llena mi alma, satisface mi oído y me causó felicidad. La voz de Dimash es muy limpia, verdadera y bella. Lo importante es disfrutar la música y aprender con ella 🎼🎵✨️🌼🌸....es mi humilde opinión. Saludos desde Chile🇨🇱.
I want to add, I really am grateful for your reaction, Because I have come across opera snobs here on RUclips giving reactions that are completely critical, or dismissive of Dimash, or very condescending, which does not help in introducing or making people comfortable to listen to opera. And they should be happy that by Maestro Domingo asking Dimash to sing with him, opera is being revived through Dimash and his fans, the dears. It makes me that much more grateful for your reaction.
Dear William, thoroughly enjoyed this knowledgeable comparison! Thanks so much. Dimash might not have all the classical operatic training but the velvet quality of his voice just soothes my soul whenever and whatever I hear him sing. Thanks again!! 🤗🤗
У Димаша первое образование оперный певец, лирический тенор, так написано в диплома. Не забывайте, он не поёт в этом жанре много лет, плюс ему надо было подстроиться под голос 83 летнего Доминго
It’s better avoiding comparisons all of them we’ve seen are extraordinary. Different times, we have to thay thank you to Placido Domingo and Dimash because everybody is turning their eyes and hearing opera, “Bell Canto “ and that means a lot.🙏🌹👑
Thank you so much for this valuable analysis. I was curious to see a contrast between this performance and career opera singers. Both are beautiful but the opera singers version more bombastic as suits an opera house. The contrast between the older Domingo and Dimash's fresh sound, with no competition for dominance was quite beautiful and I cherish this gorgeous performance.
Помимо вокальной разницы, мне кажется Пласидо и Димашу удалось передать суть, содержание ( непонятно как, видимо, всей манерой исполнения) этой песни о дружбе в большей мере, чем Кауфман и Хворостовскому, несмотря на то, что последние даже держали друг друга за плечи. Спасибо за прекрасный разбор!
Creo que no es justa la comparación, ya que ambos son increíbles, pero también es bueno recordar, que Plácido Domingo (el cual por cierto tiene 83 años!!!!!),y Dimash son jurados en un festival, en el que por cierto no estaba previsto éste dueto,como tampoco por lógica hubo los ensayos suficientes,y aún así me emocioné hasta las lágrimas de ver a Dimash haciendo este dueto con uno de sus grandes ídolos (el cual por cierto, tiene mucho, pero mucho tiempo retirado de los escenarios) Así que sin entrar en fanatismos,y reconocimiento en gran trabajo de ambos duetos, me emociona más ver a Dimash y a Plácido Domingo!!!!!❤
Im not sure if Domingo is officially in retirement, but he does still concerts the last view years.. More in his lower range and with a lot of sopranos together. Even on virtiouso is a new concert with him.
@@SoneaT En el 2010 estuvo ingresado y tratado por cáncer, en 2015 también por una embolia pulmonar (y la lista continúa)sin olvidar claro sus 83 años!!! Ir como invitado especial o jurado a algún evento alguna vez es lo que se le conoce desde hace unos años
спасибо,за сравнительный анализ знаменитых дуэтов оперных певцов высокого класса. Мне нравится оба варианта исполнения. Но Димаш,весьма хорош,когда исполняет две партии за баритон и тенор ,имея свободу интерпретации этого произведения. У него было мало времени относительно тех певцов оперы к рые десятки и сотни раз наверно исполняли в дуэте "Ловцов жемчуга". Мы слышали на сольнике Димаша в Алмате сентябре месяце 2023. исполнениена испанском языке,где он исполнял на 4 рех уровнях от баритона до альтино. Димаш это масштабный певец без границ,он как художник обладает богатством палитры звуков и голосов,от самых мягких ,нежных,субтонов и тонов до громогласного без тяжелого,темного тона,но легкого и прозрачного.
Dimash and Maestro Domingo they met one day, Dimash was coughing then. The next day they hot to practice and then the following day taped the song. I’m sure it could have been better if given time.😊
Regardless of the circumstances, I found no fault with Dimash's performance and I got the impression that in areas he was holding back so as not to out perform Domingo.
Oh I loved this comparison. What a luxury to be able to compare (without any judgement) four of the world's greatest singers singing one of the most memorable duets there is. Hvorostovsky is of course legendary, and I think Kaufmann just gets more and more compelling as his career develops. Domingo sounds fantastic for his age, and we just must not forget that he is one of the greatest tenors of all time. And Dimash is Dimash is Dimash and almost uniquely talented in his ability to cross genres. What a treat all round 🙂 Thank you.
Hola querido William , gracias por tus reacciones son impecables. La verdad que no podria decir nada criticable a cualquier buen cantante de opera por el enorme respeto que les tengo, porque es un genero musical muy dificil y fascinante. Solo dire que creci escuchando a Placido Domingo y soy una " dear " mas , asi que para mi el duo Domingo- Qudaibergen es lo mas hermoso que escuche ultimamente. Saludos desde Argentina 💕
Dimash com certeza teria perfeitas condições de colocar sua voz de tenor mais "escura", mais encorpada nesse dueto, mas com inteligência e muito respeito resolveu colocar sua voz em mais conformidade com seu parceiro de 82 anos nessa ária. Não devemos ignorar que hove direção musical nessa peça e que deve ter sido atendida de acordo. Há algum erro nessa performance? Definitivamente Não! Então não há comparação entre melhor ou pior, apenas diferente. Bravos Dimash e Plácido Domingo 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Dimash doesn't need to fake he is so natural tenor , sounds beautiful, not dramatic like the other singer, he has just one time rehearsal , can you imagine if he dedicated all his live in this genre of music , you can't compare Dimash in just one time rehearsal, i love Dimash duet with Placido Domingo.
No soy experta, una simple escucha, escucho a los cantantes con que comparan al Maestro Plácido y Dimash y se oye muy bien pero no llegan a mi alma, he escuchado al maestro Plácido y a Dimash como 20 veces y siguen deleitando mis oidos oídos y mi alma y creo que, es lo que importa. Bravo por el maestro Plácido y por Dimash ❤❤
For classical musicians and aficionados, the darker, closed operatic sound is beautiful and impressive. But most folks are put off opera the first time they hear it, precisely because of that type of sound. Thus, with all massive respect for Kaufmann and the incomparable Hvorostovsky, the more open, brighter tones that both Domingo and Dimash bring to this, will likely have much broader appeal. If classical music is to stay alive, it will have to adapt to modern tastes (I say this as an orchestral string player). These younger, more neoclassical/pop artists who are actively using social media and putting classical music in fresh contexts and with more modern tonalities are the ones who are giving the classical genres a chance to reach new audiences.
Opera is artificial and on the other hand so beautiful direct because mikes are forbidden. The singers have to fill a theater of 2500 seats and sing louder than the orchestra plays. The technical requirements are very difficult to master and cause often rigidness. I suspect the voice of Dimash (missing a core) is much, much lighter than Domingo's and that the mikes correct that in this clip. Mikes can correct far more things to make everything sound smooth and nice (as you undoubetly know). So you can't really asses this. I don't like the lack of emotions. I sincerely love opera and classical music, because it's live with all its imperfections and has a big range of all kinds of emotions. Dimash does amazing things with his voice, very original, not following the rules of opera singing, making his own visualisations and shows. But always, always with a mike; he has to, otherwise he destroys his voice. He has huge succes with that. I think he is a modern artist in his own right. And then something strange happens: his fans (and he himself?) want recognition of the opera world. Why? Opera is a dying art. You can modernize and pimp some things for the time being, but in essence the material is ages old. Some spin-offs are nice, but still less popular than the original.
@justwantthebestvoice4492 It's not "suddenly". It's a reoccuring theme since I became aware of him two years ago and got intrigued (but very fast bored) by what he was doing. Most of his fans are just as fanatic as opera fans regarding their "star" being the best singer of the world. Me too. I'm fan of a tenor who had a great voice (not anymore) but is 15 years later still on stage because he still commands the stage and can channel emotions like nobody else. He has sung the same duet with Domingo during a very large open air concert (so with mikes!). Domingo is a gentleman, he adapted to him, just like he adapted to Dimash. ruclips.net/video/3JiXVT_TNPo/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@justwantthebestvoice4492 I Really don't understand what you trying to say. If he does "crossovers" like this, he gets reactions. So what? I only pointed out that a lot of his fans want recognition in regard to opera singing. They just want all of us to say that he has the best voice in the world, better than opera singers. May be that's the case, I don't know (you can't tell from this clip). I don't care. I'm interessed in good stories and deep emotions, told with music. And for me opera is the best way to get that without all kinds of techno distortions, even if the voices are not the best of the world (provincial companies). Not many people share my opinion. What Dimash does is far more mainstream and brings him much more money. So what justwantthebestvoice4492?
Me parece absolutamente valorable , admirable y siento orgullo absoluto que un joven de 29 años logre que todo el mundo esté mirando este video y estén en todos los canales de RUclips mostrando este género musical maravilloso al cual poca gente accede, como yo por ejemplo , no sé quién es mejor ni me importa, DIMASH ES UN TREMENDO ARTISTA, COMPLETO, EXCELSO, HUMILDE, que demuestra que puede subirse a un escenario con otros grandes y en este caso con EL MAESTRO y hacemos sentir tantas cosas inexplicables, un orgullo absoluto, feliz por el, se lo merece con creces, toda una vida de esfuerzo, estudio, trabajo, nada es casual en la vida, es un ser humano increíble, habrá gente que lo criticará, que dirá que hace playback y tantas otras cosas pero hay millones más que lo admiramos y queremos, gracias por esta reacción y a mí me alcanza verlo a usted, que es un entendido del género , con solo ver su expresión de satisfacción y admiración al escucharlo, saludos desde 🇦🇷
На мой взгляд, Кауфман звучал плоско, да и богатства голоса Хворостовского здесь мало слышно. Также свои партии уже много раз откатали. А Дуэт Доминго-Димаш❤- звучал легче, интереснее, ярче. Также Не стоит забывать, что Доминго в возрасте, а Димаш за сутки подготовился.!!!
Same I like the open vowls of Dimash way more. It sounds depressed and under pressed on Kaufmanns part. Maybe it was Dimashd idea to do it this way, so it fits better to Domingos voice, as former had closed vowls.
Yes, we can hear significant differences between the two performances. However, it should also be taken into account that Dimash did not know that he would have to sing this duet before he arrived in Budapest, but only that he would be a judge in the classical music talent competition. Maestro Domingo surprisingly told Dimash that they were going to sing a duet. He also said that he himself will sing the baritone part, because he no longer able to sing the high notes of the tenor. (83 years old. Btw, never was a baritone, but always a tenor) Dimash had one day to learn the song (and they made just a few rehearsals) meanwhile Dimash was sick and had a nasty cough. If we take all these into account, it's not a bad performance. 🙂
Do we really know that Dimash did not get info before going to Budapest? And how do you know Dimash has not sung this part before in his earlier years of training?
Gosh that's amazing. All the more impressive but Dimash is a consummate professional with great musicianship. Placido started out as a baritone in his parents' Zarzuela company.
Dimash Placido son mis favoritos, son música pura y me hacen soñar … su bel canto es una obra de Dios . Gracias por mostrar otro dueto así confirma mi alma que Dimash es el mejor cantante de mundo y Domingo sigue siendo el número 1 a sus 82 años y falta aún la próxima presentación en Virtuosos donde canta con varios !!!
Placido/Dimash quickly produced tears-especially with Dimash softening and sweetening his high notes. (Disclaimer: I’m an opera goer from childhood, but admit that I start weeping, predictably. in the opening scene of Madama Butterfly.❤)
So happy I am for Dimash being able to fulfill his dream. Thank you for another wonderful analysis with so much experience and knowledge, and interesting commentary. Love the comparison. Yes, Hvorostovsky is truly excellent here but he practice at being a baritone singer daily.
You couldn’t be biased could you?😂 I adore Dimash too…I’m a self confessed “dear” and listen to him here on RUclips almost daily but… biased as I am I have to confess that I thought that in this particular duet K and H were better, richer, more expressive and sang better together. But don’t shoot me!🙈😂 ….
El dueto K y H tenían ya muchas tablas, y Placido Domingo para sus 83 está perfecto aunque ya ha bajado su registro, y Dimash para su juventud esta perfecto. Aún así, para mi este dueto es perfecto, me gusta más la claridad de las voces. Los cantantes de ópera no todos sacan la misma voz, lógicamente. 🤷♀️
Even when Dimash is singing with such intentional control, his voice “soars” which is what I find so thrilling! Dimash and Domingo hands down! 😀😀😀❤️❤️❤️
👏👏👏Nice to have the comparison !! Hvorostovsky is my most favorite baryton in the world!! So sad that he died so young … he would most probably have sung with our Dimash since both worked with Igor Krutoy !!💕💕💕
I love Hvorostovsky! Sad he died so young. Yes, incredible charisma! I watch his exiting performances on YT but I am so addicted to Dimash’s music and performances. I watch his performances over and over:)
Perdón pero Kaufman tiene la voz como velada, gangosa, oscura. Aunque Dimash no se dedique a la ópera (género hermoso pero inflexible) su voz es celestialmente de tenor de ópera completo y brilla, brilla todo el tiempo, y junto al maestro Domingo , el dúo es tocar el cielo. El otro señor, ya fallecido, tenía una voz profunda muy grata al oido. Pero...... pero.... sorry: Domingo / Dimash, ese dúo, es caricia para los oidos- Saludos William from Argentina.
Desde el momento en que se paran frente a un público e interpretan, se arriesgan a las comparaciones. Algunas consideraciones: 1.- ¿ Cuánto tiempo tuvieron para "trabajar" la puesta en escena ? 2.- ¿ Cuántas veces han participado en esa ópera o más específicamente en ese duo ? En lo personal agradezco el trabajo del Maestro Plácido Domingo ( que a sus 65 años de carrera ) nos brinde un regalo de tal magnitud y al admirado Dimash Qudaibergen, que tan joven se encuentra logrando sus metas y continúa trabajando en tantos frentes para lograr su consolidación internacional. A título personal, ambos dúos son impresionantes y de un gran mérito. Gracias por tan interesante comparación.
То, что Димаш удостоился сравнения (пусть даже критического) с такими звездами оперного пения - это огромный успех! Интересно, что его сравнивают именно с этими суперзвездами. The fact that Dimash was awarded comparison (even critical) with such stars of opera singing is a huge success! It's interesting that he is compared to these superstars.
What a beautiful video, William! I just think... We all know what Di-man is capable of... Maybe he would sound different if he was singing with Hvorostovky?
Hello William, Classical music needs young artists like Dimash to pull his audience to the classical world. Dimash has the voice, skills, training, desire & charisma to do this. Especially, when singers like Placido and Bocelli are not as active anymore. I have heard of Bizet, but not this song. I loved it! I would never have heard it if it wasn't for Dimash. When it comes to the details like open vowels vs. closed vowels, types of tenor voice and etc., my eyes glaze over and I snooze. To me, this was a masterpiece and I will search for more Bizet music. Classical music does not have to be stuffy and ellitest when it is presented like this video did.
A really interesting explanation. Thanks to Dimash I started to become interested in vocal technique, and analyzes like this are invaluable. I almost regret that Dimash didn't accept a career as an opera singer, who knows what he would be like now and what he would do! Thanks William!
Glad it was helpful! I prefer to see Dimash performing to a huge global audience without the constraints of fitting into the Opera World which is limited.
I know nothing about opera but my perception or instinct was that the final connection was cut in order to ensure that Placido Domingo would have the necessary breath/endurance, given his 53-year seniority! I have no doubt that Dimash would have rolled through it all in one breath if called upon to do so. I also watched the Placido/Carreras version of this duet. It is wonderful to see that Dimash not only holds his own but carves out his own place among these virtuosos!
Дорогой Уильямс,спасибо за наглядное сравнение дуэтов,но дуэт Пласидо и Димаш приятней для моего слуха, во вторм дуэте прекрасен баритой Хворостовского,незнаю почему ,но для меня при прослушивании оперы,я начинаю с интересом ,но в определённый момент,мне надоедает и я останавливаю себя,но в случае с дуэтом Димаш и Пласидо,этого неслучилось,я многократно их переслушала и чувствую только восхищение,Димаш творит чудеса своим невероятным голосом❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺👍👍👍
Hvorostovky has a gorgeous baritone, I wasn't keen on the Tenors voice. Dimash has a gorgeous bel canto voice, much pleasanter for me. I just can't stop watching this fabulous duet. ❤
Thank you very much William for your excellent analysis and your insight into the classical music, you always try give us 300% that’s why we love your work , same as Dimash he always try give his audience 500% ( plus his incredible talent)that’s why the whole world love him , and even feel its an honor to listen to his music !
Это презентация нового прочтения оперы😂❤🎉Слушается и смотрится свежо,современно.Очень вдохновляет.💯.Голоса сочетаются гармонично..Все на высшем уровне..✌️🙏👏🌹Браво Доминго❤🎉БравоДимаш🎉❤
We who aren't exactly informed about opera have no choice but to listen according to our preferences. I'm beginning to wonder if truly, truly technical opera has become a "sport" as much as it is an art in that sense. It's like me trying to judge the riding sport of drasagse. The experts see many differences but I see none. In the same way untrained ears can't appreciate opera. There certainly must remain a niche for it-perhaps on a competitive level, but imho, if it is to gain in popularity they should find a way to make it more palatable for the general public? What do you think about that, Willam?
I loved watching Jonas and Dmitri lock arms for the last verse: it seemed that even their vibratos were coordinated: amazing to hear and also gave chills. R I P. Dmitri🕊🌹
This was interesting. Thank you! The timbre of Jonas Kaufmanns voice isn’t my cup of tea while the timbre of Dmitri Hvorostovsky was absolutely beautiful.
I agree with your comments (my degree is in Opera) and I liked both performances. Dimash doesn't sing opera every day and the other 3 men do/did so his effort was very commendable. Fans are understandably biased, and that's fine. I always wanted to hear Dimash sing a straight opera piece, without all the vocal tricks, and he did really well. Thank you for this comparison and your astute assessment!
Доброго времени суток, спасибо за реакцию. Не думаю, что Димаш не прослушал многие версии дуэта, прежде, чем петь, хотя времени на подготовку был всего день. Мне показалось, что темп был сдвинут для того, чтобы сохранить твердое дыхание Доминго, ему несколько было некомфортно, на мой взгляд. Но пел все также божественно, как в юности и зрелом возрасте. Той же красоты тембр, та же страсть... Димаш умеет петь легато долгое и крещендо у него просто превосходное. Но Вы правы, сказав, что Димаш и не пытается петь, как оперный певец. Если бы была возможность, то лучше было бы Димашу петь баритоновую партию, а Пласидо - теноровую. А относительно темпа, сколько ни слушаю оперных, то всегда с улыбкой замечаю, что они "выбирают" темп согласно объема своего дыхания и умения брать наивысшую ноту в партии. И тут еще есть приемы портато и фермато, каждый певец согласует приемы, исходя из трактовки образа. P. S; у Kaufmann тембр голоса не очень подходит для образа Охотника )), вряд ли он мог покорить возлюбленную )) Ну, это полушутка, в которой доля правды. А крещендо у Хворостовского и Кауфмана - волшебное, rfr безупречно-волнующее возрастание, и гармония идеальная, даже в "речетативной малой беседе"... Дуэт Доминго и Кудайбергена - долгожданный для Димаша подарок, да и для поклонников тоже. Верю, что и Пласидо Доминго счастлив, что услышал вживую Димаша. Это чудесный экспромт, который был бы еще красивее, если бы отвести для него еще несколько репетиций. Это же видно: вон как их голоса слились, красивое сплелись, условно говоря, в code
👍👍Thank you William for this video. Your remarks are instructive and full of delicacy. I dreaded the concept of comparison, but that was not knowing you well. I appreciate you, greetings from France
Dimash aprendeu essa ária em um dia, num único ensaio e conseguiu fazer essa performance épica com o lendário maestro Plácido Domingo! Isso não é para qualquer um! Quem teria se saído melhor nessas condições?! Apenas Dimash! Tudo o que Dimash faz, ele faz com requinte e perfeição! Nesta apresentação, dadas as circunstâncias, o resultado final pode ser consagrado como uma verdadeira obra-prima que ficará para a história da música clássica mundial!
Claro que para la edad de Plácido es muy respetable que todavia pueda cantar. Él mismo reconoce que ya no canta como antes. Y Dimash, si ésta fue su primera vez cantando esa aria y estuvo excelente, imagínense cómo la cantaría si la tuviera muy ensayada😱😱. De los otros, es algo que esperas puesto que de eso viven, o sea, no es sorpresa. Pero sí, definitivamente me gustó mucho más la interpretación de Dimash porque se escucha más limpia, fluida y clara su voz que la de Kaufmann. Porque este último canta muy apretado, como que no le salen las palabras y eso no se escucha agradable.
Love it! I had hoped to hear this type of comparative analysis. Maestro Domingo spent his career as a tenor- of course his technique is that of a tenor. I have listened to the late Dmitri Hvorostovsky in comparison to Dimash with the beautiful trio of Ti Amo Cosi and they are entirely different styles. As you’ve indicated, all of these singers are phenomenal in their own right, I just felt the Dimash/Domingo duet was lighter and - for me - musically more compatible with my tastes. Still worth hearing the different interpretation. Additionally, I suspect that Dimash may not have had quite as much preparation in advance of this performance- he is quite busy these days! Cheers from Canada!
Я не Dear, но мне ближе исполнении Доминго и Димаша. У меня их дуэт вызывает необьяснимое волнение, вплоть до мурашек. Голос Доминго учитывая возраст, звучит прекрасно. Голос Димаша льется как тёплый свет и придает свою изюминку этому классическому произведению, что как мне кажется делает его более современным, и может понравится слушателю который не является 100% люьителем оперы и слушает и поп и классику. Красивый голос Маэстро П. Доминго, как и уникальный голос Д. Хворостовского тоже завораживают.
Thank you for this interesting comparison! Interesting for me because I never heard this piece by "proper opera singers" at the height of their career. 😉I was a little surprised that I really love Domingo and Dimash's duet better, especially because of the tenor sound of Jonas Kaufman. For me his vowels as you say, are too closed and I miss the bright open easy sound that Dimash has. In addition Dimash and Domingo are so connected and go together through this song, no intention to outshine the partner what would have been easy for Dimash, considering the age of Domingo and that he's never been a baritone. But maybe we shouldn't compare at all. But now I'm even more baffled how great Dimash sounds compared to a pure classical tenor - for us it is already so normal what he is capable of - so thank you for reminding us how special and beautifully sounding Dimash is! 😘
Ufff qué tarea más dificil, comparar estas voces tan bellas, son presentaciones muy diferentes ambas me gustan mucho, la voz irremplazable de Dmitry Hvorostovky. Dimash nuestro amado, admirado, único y majestuoso con su inigualable voz, el maestro Plácido Domingo entregándonos su dulzura otoñal, y el tenor Kaufman con su potente voz, tenerlos en un solo video y compararlos es un regalo en si mismo. Gracias!!!
Im not a fan of opera style. I only listen to it coz of Dimash and i like it coz his mixin pop in that style which for me will attract more listeners. He is experimenting this style that can let the younger generations enjoyed it more. Maybe I am ignorant but opera needs an acquired taste and mostly for aristocratic and older people😁😁Dimash changed my views. I watched other performances of the famous opera singers with this aria but i got bored. For some reason, i felt like got an ADD symptons, cant sit still or cant focused😂😂However, Dimash and PD, got goosebumps and cried like you..I wonder if Dimash has to make adjustments to his singing in order not to over power PD voice. We know Dimash can belt and hold his breath like no tomorrow..😄😄like always, I enjoyed your reactions and sharing your knowledge, William. Enjoy your beautiful whether in Bangkok coz in Canada been freezing cokd for almost 2 weeks and snowing like crazy😂😂
Обожаю Хворостовского. Оперу слушала, только в исполнении Хворостовского. Жаль , что так рано ушёл из жизни. Димашу респект за то, что он решился на это. И благодаря Димашу миллионы его поклонников слушают оперу. Меня удивило то, что многие реакционеры не слушали П. Доминго никогда раньше. Это выступление Димаша большой вклад продвижению интереса к опере. Спасибо за познавательную реакцию .
Согласна с вами. Димаш и здесь проявил свою щедрость и как ледокол двигает всё и всех к высотам
Вы правы, я тоже обратила внимание, что некоторые впервые слышат Доминго и узнает какой он певец, хотя он легенда оперы.
I completely agree.
Yes the I had the same observation... The three legendary tenors should be known more, even if someone isn't interested in opera.
@@Бахыт-д8ъ
Hvorostovsky and Kaufmann
Димаш не делит музыку на разные, отдельные друг от друга направления. Димаш воспринимает музыку целиком, как единое целое. Он воспринимает звук, звучание, гармонию звуков.
Он неоднократно говорил, что любит оперу и классическую музыку, петь бельканто для него комфортно. Но та нет места для интерпретаций, нового опыта и собственного прочтения. И поэтому он выбрал кроссовер или поп-оперу.
Как же красиво исполнение Пласидо Доминго и Димаша, звучит приятнее и современно ❤
Dimash is singing with and has to be cognizant of not overpowering an 83 year old man who admitted prior to their duet that he no longer has the same voice he used to have. Dimash grew up admiring both Domingo and Pavarotti and to be able to sing with Domingo was a great honor to him.
I love opera singing because of Dimash lighten and brighten his voice to be current and rellevant nowadays. Love from Malaysia...
I'll be honest, I prefer the duet between Plácido Domingo and Dimash because they managed to reach my heart, I was moved, the other duo, although very talented, doesn't touch my heart Greetings from Brazil.♥️♥️🇧🇷
Thank you William! Great analysis. And in the duet Kaufmann & Hvorostovky, Dmitry Hvorostovsky is my favorite singer, and in the duet Dimash & Domingo, Dimash is my favorite singer))) As you correctly noted, Dimash does not at all pretend to be an opera singer, this is not his role. However, singing in a duet with his idol Placido is an important moment for Dimash, I think so.
Thank you, William, your comparison from the point of view of an esteem professional that you are is a pleasure to follow. Dimash is excellent in bringing the beauty of the opera music to the younger generation, such an amazing example of classics meet modern perception of music❤
Potpuno sam saglasna sa vama.❤❤❤
Yes! The fact that so many people are watching and listening to the Pearl FIshers' duet is totally marvellous!
Love this! What an interesting comparison. Beautiful men and beautiful singing! Hvorostovsky - gone too soon. Had he lived, I am sure he would have performed with Dimash at some point.
Yes, considering he also performed with Lara I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Absolutely a dear friend of Igor Krutoy and Igor would definitely have composed something for them both.
Thanks for listening. Some people got. bit hot under collar thinking I was being critical of Dimash and Domingo. Others thought it was wrong to make comparisons with 'real' opera singers! In fact, all I wished to do was to answer some questions about vocal style, technique and voice categorisation. It is crazy to say, "Dimash sometimes sings like a baritone." What does that even mean? Kaufmann does too, if that's the case. And Domingo is clearly a tenor who likes to sing lower parts now. But the big difference was the closed vowels of Kaufmann, particularly on high notes. Dimash doesn't imply this technique and therefore sounds less 'operatic.'
@@BangkokVoiceCoach however "operatic" Dimash sounds I think it's wonderful that he introduces people to such a wide range of music. Today I've witnessed two men in tears at this piece and one who said that after a terrible day, just listening to this wiped everything away. That's what counts, not this snobbishness of what's true Opera or not, just the fact that two incredible voices singing music written so long ago can bring joy and peace to so many different people today.
@debbiemorgan859 Debbie I couldn’t agree with you more! Your comment hits the point! The opera world is incredibly snobbish; not just the management but the audience too!! And, what’s more, often people aren’t even responding to the music. Do you think Bizet imagined his music would be performed 150 later? And people would be moved to tears by his duet?
Сказать, что дуэт Димаша с Пласидо Доминго звучал хуже, чем у двух известнейших певцов современности, будет совершенно неправильно. По другому- да, но хуже - нет. У Хворостовского очень сильный голос, не сравнить с голосом 82 летнего Доминго и если бы Димаш использовал свой голос на всю мощь, то партнера не было бы слышно вообще. Это же касается и концовки дуэте, где, скорее всего Доминго надо было сделать паузу, так как в этом возрасте объем легких уже не тот , что раньше, а мы знаем, что Димаш может без вдыхания воздуха петь 25 секунд. Это конечно точка зрения дилетанта. А учитывая, что вышеназванные оперные певцы пели этот дуэт не в первый раз, то исполнение Димаша- прекрасное
Excelente observações👏👏👏
Очень логично. Спасибо
Абсолютно согласна!
Very well said ❤
So true. Those are very important points to pay attention to.
Уильям, вы превосходный, вас слушаю с придыханием, потому что хочу понимать происходящее с позиции профессионала. Я влюблена в дуэт Доминго и Димаша, он разливается так сладко в моей душе. Это прекрасное пение, современное звучание, Димаш новатор, ледокол, очень щедрый бескорыстный гений. Всех продвигает, всех поднимает до неба, всем рад помочь. Виват Димаш🎉❤всем здоровья и помощи Всевышнего
Я с Вами согласна полностью. Прекрасное соединение музыки 19 века и звучания 21 века. Димаш мне напоминает творцов импрессионизма в живописи, которые не отрицая классики, обогатили и внесли новаторство в восприятие прекрасного. Слушая одного из реакционеров,где он ставил в вину Димашу переход от тенора к баритону, по-моему скромному мнению, именно это обогатило звучание этого прекрасного творения Бизе
@@TianaS-d8n Нет, нет, Вы упустили: именно этот переход автор и допускает, как правило возможный.
What can I say, I love all Kaufmann- Hvorostovky, Domingo-Qudaibergen. Dreamy voices that make my heart beat harder, I just know that there are different types of beauty. Thank you William, you are very much appreciated.
If it is not for Dimash, I would not know of this long ago duet. Thank you for another discovery!
I love classical voice because of Dimash Kudaibergen...
Thank you for this comparrison! I think that if Dimash had become an opera singer, as offered, he would sound different today. He would have more of that opera sound that Kaufmann has. But I love his duet with Placido, it still gives me chills.
I'd love to hear Dimash singing Mozart.
@@BangkokVoiceCoach have you seen Dimash's Queen of the Night snippets? Makes you want to hear more.
@@donnakebab5415 in the stairwell …!
А мне голос Кауффмана вообще не понравился.
Love the Dimash and Crazy Maks “ duet”!!! 😂😂
WOW thank you William the contrasting, but still mind-blowing, singing of all 4 gentlemen still takes my breath away..
Thank you for your 'pearls of wisdom' and knowledge. I shall listen once again and enjoy it all.
Heartiest best wishes from Wales.
Как хорошо сказали, тёплый светлый голос Димаша! Поражает уровень его профессионализма, одна спевка, французский язык! И как прекрасно сливаются их голоса!
Как раз ппрофессионализма оперного тут и нет
Hola William, gracias por la explicación fue muy ilustrativa y en mi caso, solo sirvió para enamorarme más de la actuación de Dimash y Plácido Domingo en donde terminó con los ojos húmedos por lo que me hacen sentir, la otra presentación la sentí fría y sin alma, cuestión de gustos, técnicas y conexión.
Saludos desde México.
I found your analysis fascinating William. Most Dears don't have as much experience or training in the classical and operatic voice as you do so we do miss quite a lot when Dimash sings in that style. I remember defending Dimash against the criticism that he could not sing opera like a trained opera singer, who can project the voice to the back of the auditorium without a microphone. Well, it's probably true. He has never claimed to sing opera. He uses some of the techniques when he wants to add dynamics to a song. He always uses a microphone (unless singing in private). He is also only 29 years old. I have been told that singers who only sing opera do not start singing it properly in roles on stage until after the age of 35. It takes time to gain maturity. I think that anyone criticising Dimash for not singing opera correctly is not understanding what his chosen purpose is - and that is to make his music accessible to everyone, everywhere, and to spread love and connection. By limiting himself to one genre he would not fulfil that destiny. He is Dimash, and he is so much more than an opera singer. And I'm glad. We are lucky to be alive now and be able to have our lives changed by him in such positive ways.
Although the other duet was very fine, when Dimash started to sing the climax in his definitive soaring style it took my soul with it and my heart beat faster and I even held my breath.
Perhaps we feel his own soul soaring and it takes ours with it ❤😂
You said it: He is Dimash, and he is so much more than an opera singer. And I'm glad.
What a beautiful comment!
This makes me wonder, I've been reading a lot of comments from youtubers - fans and haters alike and been listening to opera singers in reactions and mostly the most or as if the greatest difference between Dimash's singing and full opera is the power of the voice being able to project with and without a microphone - I mean, does that even matter in a world where we access the most remote part of the world virtually? Our ears can compare whatever we can hear out of an electronic medium, and even that is not standard/the same for all. If we are comparing singing in an opera house with all its acoustics in place, and singing in a regular theater or stadium or non-opera house venues, then the argument is valid. But I think it is pointless so the comparison should be the quality of the voice at least. Dimash has that - quality, versatility, power - you name it.
P.S. Glad I didn't hear that "power of voice without a mic" comparison here. It's actually okay, as long as that is not the focus. Thank you Bangkok Voice Coach!
Actually I have to point out something that isn't true at all, the mics here were purely for the TV recording. William himself pointed this out earlier. There was no loudspeaker system visible in the theatre.
Also Dimash has been seen in concert performing without a microphone, even in a massive stadium. If he knows the acoustics are right he will often finish Autumn Strong without a microphone.
There is a whole video on RUclips of moments when Dimash performed without a microphone, even once when a mic fails halfway through a song. He adjusts his technique and finishes the song without it.
Speaking completely objectively, not even as a Dear I honestly preferred Dimash's version. I'm not an experienced opera buff, I couldn't tell you why but just the tone, the openness and richness yet lightness of Dimash's voice was more pleasing to my ear. I could (and have) listened to Dimash's version endlessly. The other one, not so much. Once would be enough.
In defence of Kaufmann, his voice would not sound nasal if you hear it in the opera house.
@@BangkokVoiceCoachit wasn't so much nasal to me, but a thick throat, not clean. Also I just don't get the open and closed vowels thing, they all sound complete to me aeiou etc. I also didn't hear the difference in the tone between K and D, too similar, whereas Dimash sounded more tenor to me than Kaufmann
Debbie agree 100 % -honestly -me too ;)
@@annestep6741wow , pensé lo mismo que tú ❤️❤️❤️
Can't agree more! Didn't mean to be rude, but Kaufmann's singing was wayyyyyy too throaty!!!!! It makes me cough listening to him...
Many bel canto teachers have found that Dimash provides a cross-interpretation between rigid classical singing (which has to follow certain rules and exactly what the author of the piece wrote, from the notes and durations, the portamentos, the expressiveness... Everything) and most popular flexibility. For purists, let us remember that Dimash dreamed of singing with Plácido Domingos since he was little and it was the Maestro himself, Don Domingos, who suggested the duet. Dimash only had one day to remember the work and make the recording as this moment is part of the competition (like a talent show) for children with musical talent: The “Virtuosos”! Dimash, in addition to Plácido Domingos, were part of the Juri, accompanied by Erika Miklósa (opera singer), Adrás Keller (violinist, conductor and musical director of the Budapest Concert), Hauser (cellist), Plácido Domingos Jr. composer), Pablo Sanz Villegas (classical guitarist), GAbriela Rachid (cultural director) and Harvey Goldsmith (music promoter)! The show was in Budapest (Hungary) from January 16th to 26th this year, 2024!
Спасибо. Вы великолепно все написали.
I can't wait 26th Jan episode
Простите, это моё личное мнение. Благодаря своему отцу, большому любителю оперы, я с малых лет росла в атмосфере оперы. Я считаю, что казахские оперные певцы были на голову выше, нежели российские. Просто в советские времена у них не было выхода на мировую арену. Что касается Хворостовского и Кауфмана, хотя я не раз слушала именно этот их дуэт, но никакого отклика в моей душе не возникало. Я могу признать талант Хворостовского, но, он для скучен. Мои родители пытались приобщиться меня к классике, но мне было не интересно. И вот чудо, нелюбимая мной опера стала мне близка и понятна, буквально обворожила меня в небольшом кусочке сто раз пересмотренной и переслушанной мной (требование папы) оперы Бизе. Я сама не могу поверить, что столь неоюбимая мной опера (я конечно предпочитала Битлс, Фредди Меркьюри, Джо Дассена, Эдит Пиаф и ло.) Обворжила меня в исполнении легенды Маэстро Домино и моего соотечественника Димаша. Браво двум мастерам. Есть надежда, что классика не умрёт, когда есть Димаш.
Art takes many forms and it doesn’t matter which method people use to sing. It is more important that the feelings and emotions are delivered and received by audience. Dimash certainly does a wonderful job on that. Great performances by both. I personally prefer Dimash’s version, as it is more suitable for most people who are not used to listen to operas all the time.
So true!! The opera world is very judgmental and critical. It is marvellous that the fans of Dimash are always full of love and appreciation. It is great to see this. ❤️🙏
Хороший сравнительный анализ. Хочу высказать свое мнение, основанное на знании того, каким студентом был Димаш. Димаш всегда готовил к уроку несколько версий той или иной арии, или партии. заданных его учителем. Он отсматривал все доступные записи данного произведения самыми разными исполнителями, и затем показывал СВОЮ версию. Так говорит о нем Марат Айтимов - его преподаватель. Таким образом, Димаш не мог не видеть этого исполнения и знает о приемах, показанных этими певцами. Но он выбрал свой вариант, без театрального расширения, значит, считал его излишним. Благодарю за прекрасный анализ.
Как же вы хорошо сказали!
Comparto que mi sorpresa fue Domingo, increible como suena aun el maestro con 83 años.
Para mí todos son espectaculares, PERO sólo una dupla erizó mi piel y me emocionó hasta las lágrimas: Domingo & Kudaibergen ❤
Same sentiment!
Less technique and more passion in Dimash and the Maestro ❤❤
Hvorostovsky as a baritone is incomparable. As a duet, I prefer the performance of Dimash and Placido Domingo.
True.
I would've killed to be able to hear this duet by Dimash and Dimitri.
@@bekydelacaridadtoledogutie1839 I chuckled at this Beky, I went from thinking figurative to literal then back 😄 I too would have loved if this duet happened! I hope Dimash will have a duet with somebody like Dmitri in the future, and no holding back whatsoever hopefully.
Как говорят русские:"пусть будет земля пухом великому певцу современности Хворовстовскому.
I have listened to the others once a long time ago and have no interest in repeating; however I will never tire of repeatedly listening to this magical performance by Dimash and Domingo
The only reason I listen to any music is whether I enjoy listening to it, not at all its technical aspects.
There are some very few and rare performances I relate to so profoundly that I will listen to them repeatedly with great pleasure--Dimash and Domingo is one of these
El solo hecho de comparar ambos dúos, ya nos habla de la calidad excelsa de los intérpretes
Gracias por darnos está pequeña joya para mejor comprensión de lo que estamos viendo...y viviendo.
Un saludo desde Chile, en el extremo sur del mundo
Я честно не большой знаток в технике оперного пения. Но чисто как слушателю мне дуэт Доминго и Димаша понравился больше - мягче, нежнее, проникновенно. И какое красивое сочетание голосов! Это мое впечатление. I'm honestly not a great expert in opera singing techniques. But as a listener, I liked the duet of Domingo and Dimash more - softer, more tender. Аnd such a beautiful combination of voices!
Вы и прада не эксперт :))
И не обязана. Я слушаю то, что доставляет удовольствие. В этом смысл. Все остальное не важно@@zanuda5274
Que interesante conocer más sobre esta obra de Georges Bizet, que gracias a Dimash llegó a mis oídos. De Bizet solo conocía "Carmen".
El dúo de Dimash con P. Domingo ha sido espectacular. Me di el tiempo de revisar otros dúos, cada cuál con su belleza interpretativa, pero tal como comentó alguien más....el dúo con Dimash llena mi alma, satisface mi oído y me causó felicidad. La voz de Dimash es muy limpia, verdadera y bella. Lo importante es disfrutar la música y aprender con ella 🎼🎵✨️🌼🌸....es mi humilde opinión. Saludos desde Chile🇨🇱.
Dimash and Placido Domingo are the preferred ones for me.
Kaufman sounded so muffled.
Thank you for the great analysis William. Much appreciated.
Yes..I felt Kaufman was nasal😳😳😳a dreadful thing to say...🫣🫣
I want to add, I really am grateful for your reaction,
Because I have come across opera snobs here on RUclips giving reactions that are completely critical, or dismissive of Dimash, or very condescending, which does not help in introducing or making people comfortable to listen to opera.
And they should be happy that by Maestro Domingo asking Dimash to sing with him, opera is being revived through Dimash and his fans, the dears.
It makes me that much more grateful for your reaction.
This says it all. Snobbishness is killing them.
Dear William, thoroughly enjoyed this knowledgeable comparison! Thanks so much.
Dimash might not have all the classical operatic training but the velvet quality of his voice just soothes my soul whenever and whatever I hear him sing. Thanks again!! 🤗🤗
У Димаша первое образование оперный певец, лирический тенор, так написано в диплома. Не забывайте, он не поёт в этом жанре много лет, плюс ему надо было подстроиться под голос 83 летнего Доминго
Dimash was offered a place at the Astana Opera House in his country
У Димаша есть классическое образование,ему даже предлагали работать у себя в Казахстане.
It’s better avoiding comparisons all of them we’ve seen are extraordinary. Different times, we have to thay thank you to Placido Domingo and Dimash because everybody is turning their eyes and hearing opera, “Bell Canto “ and that means a lot.🙏🌹👑
Thank you so much for this valuable analysis. I was curious to see a contrast between this performance and career opera singers. Both are beautiful but the opera singers version more bombastic as suits an opera house. The contrast between the older Domingo and Dimash's fresh sound, with no competition for dominance was quite beautiful and I cherish this gorgeous performance.
Помимо вокальной разницы, мне кажется Пласидо и Димашу удалось передать суть, содержание ( непонятно как, видимо, всей манерой исполнения) этой песни о дружбе в большей мере, чем Кауфман и Хворостовскому, несмотря на то, что последние даже держали друг друга за плечи. Спасибо за прекрасный разбор!
Creo que no es justa la comparación, ya que ambos son increíbles, pero también es bueno recordar, que Plácido Domingo (el cual por cierto tiene 83 años!!!!!),y Dimash son jurados en un festival, en el que por cierto no estaba previsto éste dueto,como tampoco por lógica hubo los ensayos suficientes,y aún así me emocioné hasta las lágrimas de ver a Dimash haciendo este dueto con uno de sus grandes ídolos (el cual por cierto, tiene mucho, pero mucho tiempo retirado de los escenarios) Así que sin entrar en fanatismos,y reconocimiento en gran trabajo de ambos duetos, me emociona más ver a Dimash y a Plácido Domingo!!!!!❤
Im not sure if Domingo is officially in retirement, but he does still concerts the last view years.. More in his lower range and with a lot of sopranos together. Even on virtiouso is a new concert with him.
@@SoneaT En el 2010 estuvo ingresado y tratado por cáncer, en 2015 también por una embolia pulmonar (y la lista continúa)sin olvidar claro sus 83 años!!! Ir como invitado especial o jurado a algún evento alguna vez es lo que se le conoce desde hace unos años
Thank you Dear didn't know this. ❤@@yanelisa37urena31
@@SoneaT 🙏❤️
спасибо,за сравнительный анализ знаменитых дуэтов оперных певцов высокого класса. Мне нравится оба варианта исполнения. Но Димаш,весьма хорош,когда исполняет две партии за баритон и тенор ,имея свободу интерпретации этого произведения. У него было мало времени относительно тех певцов оперы к рые десятки и сотни раз наверно исполняли в дуэте "Ловцов жемчуга". Мы слышали на сольнике Димаша в Алмате сентябре месяце 2023. исполнениена испанском языке,где он исполнял на 4 рех уровнях от баритона до альтино. Димаш это масштабный певец без границ,он как художник обладает богатством палитры звуков и голосов,от самых мягких ,нежных,субтонов
и тонов до громогласного без тяжелого,темного тона,но легкого и прозрачного.
До сих пор я испытываю невероятные эмоции- воспоминания о концерте в Алматы. Это было 4 часа КОСМОСА ❤❤❤❤
Dimash and Maestro Domingo they met one day, Dimash was coughing then. The next day they hot to practice and then the following day taped the song. I’m sure it could have been better if given time.😊
Regardless of the circumstances, I found no fault with Dimash's performance and I got the impression that in areas he was holding back so as not to out perform Domingo.
Oh I loved this comparison. What a luxury to be able to compare (without any judgement) four of the world's greatest singers singing one of the most memorable duets there is. Hvorostovsky is of course legendary, and I think Kaufmann just gets more and more compelling as his career develops. Domingo sounds fantastic for his age, and we just must not forget that he is one of the greatest tenors of all time. And Dimash is Dimash is Dimash and almost uniquely talented in his ability to cross genres. What a treat all round 🙂 Thank you.
Me gusta más el dúo Plácido y Dimash❤
Hola querido William , gracias por tus reacciones son impecables. La verdad que no podria decir nada criticable a cualquier buen cantante de opera por el enorme respeto que les tengo, porque es un genero musical muy dificil y fascinante. Solo dire que creci escuchando a Placido Domingo y soy una " dear " mas , asi que para mi el duo Domingo- Qudaibergen es lo mas hermoso que escuche ultimamente. Saludos desde Argentina 💕
Dimash com certeza teria perfeitas condições de colocar sua voz de tenor mais "escura", mais encorpada nesse dueto, mas com inteligência e muito respeito resolveu colocar sua voz em mais conformidade com seu parceiro de 82 anos nessa ária. Não devemos ignorar que hove direção musical nessa peça e que deve ter sido atendida de acordo.
Há algum erro nessa performance? Definitivamente Não! Então não há comparação entre melhor ou pior, apenas diferente.
Bravos Dimash e Plácido Domingo 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Corrigindo👉 *Houve*
How convincing, and thank you for reminding what an amazing Khvorostovsky sounded like. Unmatched.
Dimash doesn't need to fake he is so natural tenor , sounds beautiful, not dramatic like the other singer, he has just one time rehearsal , can you imagine if he dedicated all his live in this genre of music , you can't compare Dimash in just one time rehearsal, i love Dimash duet with Placido Domingo.
No soy experta, una simple escucha, escucho a los cantantes con que comparan al Maestro Plácido y Dimash y se oye muy bien pero no llegan a mi alma, he escuchado al maestro Plácido y a Dimash como 20 veces y siguen deleitando mis oidos oídos y mi alma y creo que, es lo que importa. Bravo por el maestro Plácido y por Dimash ❤❤
For classical musicians and aficionados, the darker, closed operatic sound is beautiful and impressive. But most folks are put off opera the first time they hear it, precisely because of that type of sound. Thus, with all massive respect for Kaufmann and the incomparable Hvorostovsky, the more open, brighter tones that both Domingo and Dimash bring to this, will likely have much broader appeal. If classical music is to stay alive, it will have to adapt to modern tastes (I say this as an orchestral string player). These younger, more neoclassical/pop artists who are actively using social media and putting classical music in fresh contexts and with more modern tonalities are the ones who are giving the classical genres a chance to reach new audiences.
Opera is artificial and on the other hand so beautiful direct because mikes are forbidden. The singers have to fill a theater of 2500 seats and sing louder than the orchestra plays. The technical requirements are very difficult to master and cause often rigidness. I suspect the voice of Dimash (missing a core) is much, much lighter than Domingo's and that the mikes correct that in this clip. Mikes can correct far more things to make everything sound smooth and nice (as you undoubetly know). So you can't really asses this. I don't like the lack of emotions. I sincerely love opera and classical music, because it's live with all its imperfections and has a big range of all kinds of emotions. Dimash does amazing things with his voice, very original, not following the rules of opera singing, making his own visualisations and shows. But always, always with a mike; he has to, otherwise he destroys his voice. He has huge succes with that. I think he is a modern artist in his own right. And then something strange happens: his fans (and he himself?) want recognition of the opera world. Why? Opera is a dying art. You can modernize and pimp some things for the time being, but in essence the material is ages old. Some spin-offs are nice, but still less popular than the original.
A magnificent comment. ❤️
I am amazed by the comments in this thread. I am learning a lot. ❤️
@justwantthebestvoice4492 It's not "suddenly". It's a reoccuring theme since I became aware of him two years ago and got intrigued (but very fast bored) by what he was doing. Most of his fans are just as fanatic as opera fans regarding their "star" being the best singer of the world. Me too. I'm fan of a tenor who had a great voice (not anymore) but is 15 years later still on stage because he still commands the stage and can channel emotions like nobody else. He has sung the same duet with Domingo during a very large open air concert (so with mikes!). Domingo is a gentleman, he adapted to him, just like he adapted to Dimash. ruclips.net/video/3JiXVT_TNPo/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@justwantthebestvoice4492 I Really don't understand what you trying to say. If he does "crossovers" like this, he gets reactions. So what? I only pointed out that a lot of his fans want recognition in regard to opera singing. They just want all of us to say that he has the best voice in the world, better than opera singers. May be that's the case, I don't know (you can't tell from this clip). I don't care. I'm interessed in good stories and deep emotions, told with music. And for me opera is the best way to get that without all kinds of techno distortions, even if the voices are not the best of the world (provincial companies). Not many people share my opinion. What Dimash does is far more mainstream and brings him much more money. So what justwantthebestvoice4492?
Me parece absolutamente valorable , admirable y siento orgullo absoluto que un joven de 29 años logre que todo el mundo esté mirando este video y estén en todos los canales de RUclips mostrando este género musical maravilloso al cual poca gente accede, como yo por ejemplo , no sé quién es mejor ni me importa, DIMASH ES UN TREMENDO ARTISTA, COMPLETO, EXCELSO, HUMILDE, que demuestra que puede subirse a un escenario con otros grandes y en este caso con EL MAESTRO y hacemos sentir tantas cosas inexplicables, un orgullo absoluto, feliz por el, se lo merece con creces, toda una vida de esfuerzo, estudio, trabajo, nada es casual en la vida, es un ser humano increíble, habrá gente que lo criticará, que dirá que hace playback y tantas otras cosas pero hay millones más que lo admiramos y queremos, gracias por esta reacción y a mí me alcanza verlo a usted, que es un entendido del género , con solo ver su expresión de satisfacción y admiración al escucharlo, saludos desde 🇦🇷
На мой взгляд, Кауфман звучал плоско, да и богатства голоса Хворостовского здесь мало слышно. Также свои партии уже много раз откатали. А Дуэт Доминго-Димаш❤- звучал легче, интереснее, ярче. Также Не стоит забывать, что Доминго в возрасте, а Димаш за сутки подготовился.!!!
Согласна! Такое же впечатление.
Кауфман совсем не впечатлил. Техника есть, но голос вначале вообще неприятный, мимика странная. Впечатление, что волнуется и зациклен на себе.
Totalmente de acuerdo 👍🏻🇪🇸
Same I like the open vowls of Dimash way more. It sounds depressed and under pressed on Kaufmanns part. Maybe it was Dimashd idea to do it this way, so it fits better to Domingos voice, as former had closed vowls.
@@veselakhmarkathat’s exactly my impression too. ❤️
У Кауфмана звук более сдавленный, более вынужденный.
Хворостовский, конечно, хорош.
Yes, we can hear significant differences between the two performances.
However, it should also be taken into account that Dimash did not know that he would have to sing this duet before he arrived in Budapest, but only that he would be a judge in the classical music talent competition.
Maestro Domingo surprisingly told Dimash that they were going to sing a duet. He also said that he himself will sing the baritone part, because he no longer able to sing the high notes of the tenor. (83 years old. Btw, never was a baritone, but always a tenor)
Dimash had one day to learn the song (and they made just a few rehearsals) meanwhile Dimash was sick and had a nasty cough.
If we take all these into account, it's not a bad performance. 🙂
Do we really know that Dimash did not get info before going to Budapest? And how do you know Dimash has not sung this part before in his earlier years of training?
@@portiaj4374
Infos came out.
I'm living in Budapest, and I have connections in the music world
@@nemka_muzik Thank you, happy to know you have a source!
Gosh that's amazing. All the more impressive but Dimash is a consummate professional with great musicianship. Placido started out as a baritone in his parents' Zarzuela company.
@@portiaj4374
😍
Thank you so much for such a knowledgeable and professional analysis!
Dimash Placido son mis favoritos, son música pura y me hacen soñar … su bel canto es una obra de Dios . Gracias por mostrar otro dueto así confirma mi alma que Dimash es el mejor cantante de mundo y Domingo sigue siendo el número 1 a sus 82 años y falta aún la próxima presentación en Virtuosos donde canta con varios !!!
❤️❤️❤️
Димаш је овако певао са једном пробом .😮 ❤❤❤❤❤ Волим Димаша ! Волим Дмитрија Хворостовског ! 😢
Placido/Dimash quickly produced tears-especially with Dimash softening and sweetening his high notes. (Disclaimer: I’m an opera goer from childhood, but admit that I start weeping, predictably. in the opening scene of Madama Butterfly.❤)
So happy I am for Dimash being able to fulfill his dream. Thank you for another wonderful analysis with so much experience and knowledge, and interesting commentary. Love the comparison. Yes, Hvorostovsky is truly excellent here but he practice at being a baritone singer daily.
For me Dimash and Domingo more beautiful ❤
It is for me too. Jonas Kaufman sounded like he had plumbs in his mouth. A bit muffled.
For me too❤😍
You couldn’t be biased could you?😂
I adore Dimash too…I’m a self confessed “dear” and listen to him here on RUclips almost daily but… biased as I am I have to confess that I thought that in this particular duet K and H were better, richer, more expressive and sang better together. But don’t shoot me!🙈😂
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@@yuenkoicierto 👌🏻
El dueto K y H tenían ya muchas tablas, y Placido Domingo para sus 83 está perfecto aunque ya ha bajado su registro, y Dimash para su juventud esta perfecto. Aún así, para mi este dueto es perfecto, me gusta más la claridad de las voces. Los cantantes de ópera no todos sacan la misma voz, lógicamente. 🤷♀️
Domingo & Dimash ❤❤❤🎵🎵🎵
Even when Dimash is singing with such intentional control, his voice “soars” which is what I find so thrilling! Dimash and Domingo hands down! 😀😀😀❤️❤️❤️
👏👏👏Nice to have the comparison !! Hvorostovsky is my most favorite baryton in the world!! So sad that he died so young … he would most probably have sung with our Dimash since both worked with Igor Krutoy !!💕💕💕
I love Hvorostovsky! Sad he died so young. Yes, incredible charisma! I watch his exiting performances on YT but I am so addicted to Dimash’s music and performances. I watch his performances over and over:)
You should watch Hvorostovsky winning the final of the Cardiff Singer of the World competition. It is truly the best singing!!
@@BangkokVoiceCoach I will. Thank you, Will, for the recommendation!
I could listen to Hrovoskovsky the whole day (and sometimes I do😂). All these four singers are just amazing 🎉
Perdón pero Kaufman tiene la voz como velada, gangosa, oscura. Aunque Dimash no se dedique a la ópera (género hermoso pero inflexible) su voz es celestialmente de tenor de ópera completo y brilla, brilla todo el tiempo, y junto al maestro Domingo , el dúo es tocar el cielo. El otro señor, ya fallecido, tenía una voz profunda muy grata al oido. Pero...... pero.... sorry: Domingo / Dimash, ese dúo, es caricia para los oidos- Saludos William from Argentina.
👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤗
DIMASH SE GRADUÓ COMO CANTANTE DE OPERA EN LA ESCUELA DE SU PAIS.
🥰❤💫🙏🌹🌹🌹🧑🎤 Thank you William really enjoyable and now I have been introduced to two new opera singers.❤
Desde el momento en que se paran frente a un público e interpretan, se arriesgan a las comparaciones.
Algunas consideraciones:
1.- ¿ Cuánto tiempo tuvieron para "trabajar" la puesta en escena ?
2.- ¿ Cuántas veces han participado en esa ópera o más específicamente en ese duo ?
En lo personal agradezco el trabajo del Maestro Plácido Domingo ( que a sus 65 años de carrera ) nos brinde un regalo de tal magnitud y al admirado Dimash Qudaibergen, que tan joven se encuentra logrando sus metas y continúa trabajando en tantos frentes para lograr su consolidación internacional.
A título personal, ambos dúos son impresionantes y de un gran mérito.
Gracias por tan interesante comparación.
Prestation magnifique de Dimash comme d habitude dans youtce su il chante superbe duo🎉🎉🎉
То, что Димаш удостоился сравнения (пусть даже критического) с такими звездами оперного пения - это огромный успех! Интересно, что его сравнивают именно с этими суперзвездами. The fact that Dimash was awarded comparison (even critical) with such stars of opera singing is a huge success! It's interesting that he is compared to these superstars.
Amazing comparison. Thanks to dimash .. I'm watching this competition. Thanks to you I'm watching other classical channel.
Super Amazing Performance With Tow Masters Dimash & Placido Domingo Bravooooooo Beautiful Song Pearl fishers!!!👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💥💥💥🌟🌟🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love the Domingo / Dimash duet. So moving and beautiful. Brought tears to my eyes. Bravo 👍
Their performance of this famous duet was very beautiful and truthful. So special it has touched a lot of people all over the world. ❤️
Listen this other dueto just proved me that Dimash and Domingo did an wonderful work! ❤❤❤
Comparisons can shed a lot of light and need never to be judgemental. I love all four of these singers.
@@BangkokVoiceCoach Me too!
Этому надо поучиться другим реакционерам и коучам. Мое уважение
What a beautiful video, William! I just think... We all know what Di-man is capable of... Maybe he would sound different if he was singing with Hvorostovky?
Hello William, Classical music needs young artists like Dimash to pull his audience to the classical world. Dimash has the voice, skills, training, desire & charisma to do this. Especially, when singers like Placido and Bocelli are not as active anymore. I have heard of Bizet, but not this song. I loved it! I would never have heard it if it wasn't for Dimash. When it comes to the details like open vowels vs. closed vowels, types of tenor voice and etc., my eyes glaze over and I snooze. To me, this was a masterpiece and I will search for more Bizet music. Classical music does not have to be stuffy and ellitest when it is presented like this video did.
Check out Carmen. What was Bizet's number one hit!
@@BangkokVoiceCoach Let's hope Dimash will perform "La fleur que tu m'avais jetée")))
Thank you for the detailed analysis! Very informative!😊❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
A really interesting explanation. Thanks to Dimash I started to become interested in vocal technique, and analyzes like this are invaluable. I almost regret that Dimash didn't accept a career as an opera singer, who knows what he would be like now and what he would do!
Thanks William!
Glad it was helpful! I prefer to see Dimash performing to a huge global audience without the constraints of fitting into the Opera World which is limited.
👍👍👍💘💘💘❤❤❤ Мне больше понравился дуэт Димаша и Доминго!❤
Ambos duos son fabulosos.. No se de opera y clasificaciones .. Solo se que ambos duos me dan satisfacción ❤
I know nothing about opera but my perception or instinct was that the final connection was cut in order to ensure that Placido Domingo would have the necessary breath/endurance, given his 53-year seniority! I have no doubt that Dimash would have rolled through it all in one breath if called upon to do so. I also watched the Placido/Carreras version of this duet. It is wonderful to see that Dimash not only holds his own but carves out his own place among these virtuosos!
Дорогой Уильямс,спасибо за наглядное сравнение дуэтов,но дуэт Пласидо и Димаш приятней для моего слуха, во вторм дуэте прекрасен баритой Хворостовского,незнаю почему ,но для меня при прослушивании оперы,я начинаю с интересом ,но в определённый момент,мне надоедает и я останавливаю себя,но в случае с дуэтом Димаш и Пласидо,этого неслучилось,я многократно их переслушала и чувствую только восхищение,Димаш творит чудеса своим невероятным голосом❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺👍👍👍
Ну Хворостовский это прелесть просто. Мне Димаш больше понравился, чем Кауфман
Hvorostovky has a gorgeous baritone, I wasn't keen on the Tenors voice. Dimash has a gorgeous bel canto voice, much pleasanter for me. I just can't stop watching this fabulous duet. ❤
Thank you very much William for your excellent analysis and your insight into the classical music, you always try give us 300% that’s why we love your work , same as Dimash he always try give his audience 500% ( plus his incredible talent)that’s why the whole world love him , and even feel its an honor to listen to his music !
Это презентация нового прочтения оперы😂❤🎉Слушается и смотрится свежо,современно.Очень вдохновляет.💯.Голоса сочетаются гармонично..Все на высшем уровне..✌️🙏👏🌹Браво Доминго❤🎉БравоДимаш🎉❤
We who aren't exactly informed about opera have no choice but to listen according to our preferences. I'm beginning to wonder if truly, truly technical opera has become a "sport" as much as it is an art in that sense. It's like me trying to judge the riding sport of drasagse. The experts see many differences but I see none. In the same way untrained ears can't appreciate opera. There certainly must remain a niche for it-perhaps on a competitive level, but imho, if it is to gain in popularity they should find a way to make it more palatable for the general public? What do you think about that, Willam?
I loved watching Jonas and Dmitri lock arms for the last verse: it seemed that even their vibratos were coordinated: amazing to hear and also gave chills. R I P. Dmitri🕊🌹
This was interesting. Thank you! The timbre of Jonas Kaufmanns voice isn’t my cup of tea while the timbre of Dmitri Hvorostovsky was absolutely beautiful.
I agree with your comments (my degree is in Opera) and I liked both performances. Dimash doesn't sing opera every day and the other 3 men do/did so his effort was very commendable. Fans are understandably biased, and that's fine. I always wanted to hear Dimash sing a straight opera piece, without all the vocal tricks, and he did really well. Thank you for this comparison and your astute assessment!
This is one of the reasons (what I have read) why Dimash didnt choose opera. ruclips.net/video/sZSTk2uzNIE/видео.html
@@TynkaTopi Wow! amazing video! Thank you.
Thank you Wiliam! This was highly interesting! ❤🙏🌺
Доброго времени суток, спасибо за реакцию. Не думаю, что Димаш не прослушал многие версии дуэта, прежде, чем петь, хотя времени на подготовку был всего день. Мне показалось, что темп был сдвинут для того, чтобы сохранить твердое дыхание Доминго, ему несколько было некомфортно, на мой взгляд. Но пел все также божественно, как в юности и зрелом возрасте. Той же красоты тембр, та же страсть... Димаш умеет петь легато долгое и крещендо у него просто превосходное. Но Вы правы, сказав, что Димаш и не пытается петь, как оперный певец. Если бы была возможность, то лучше было бы Димашу петь баритоновую партию, а Пласидо - теноровую. А относительно темпа, сколько ни слушаю оперных, то всегда с улыбкой замечаю, что они "выбирают" темп согласно объема своего дыхания и умения брать наивысшую ноту в партии. И тут еще есть приемы портато и фермато, каждый певец согласует приемы, исходя из трактовки образа. P. S; у Kaufmann тембр голоса не очень подходит для образа Охотника )), вряд ли он мог покорить возлюбленную )) Ну, это полушутка, в которой доля правды. А крещендо у Хворостовского и Кауфмана - волшебное, rfr безупречно-волнующее возрастание, и гармония идеальная, даже в "речетативной малой беседе"... Дуэт Доминго и Кудайбергена - долгожданный для Димаша подарок, да и для поклонников тоже. Верю, что и Пласидо Доминго счастлив, что услышал вживую Димаша. Это чудесный экспромт, который был бы еще красивее, если бы отвести для него еще несколько репетиций. Это же видно: вон как их голоса слились, красивое сплелись, условно говоря, в code
👍👍Thank you William for this video. Your remarks are instructive and full of delicacy. I dreaded the concept of comparison, but that was not knowing you well. I appreciate you, greetings from France
A comparison without judgment!!
Прекрасный анализ. Спасибо, что приближаете нас к пониманию оперного вокала. Интересное сравнение исполнения всех этих талантливых артистов
Dimash aprendeu essa ária em um dia, num único ensaio e conseguiu fazer essa performance épica com o lendário maestro Plácido Domingo! Isso não é para qualquer um! Quem teria se saído melhor nessas condições?! Apenas Dimash! Tudo o que Dimash faz, ele faz com requinte e perfeição! Nesta apresentação, dadas as circunstâncias, o resultado final pode ser consagrado como uma verdadeira obra-prima que ficará para a história da música clássica mundial!
Yes thanks again for this William. It was very informative.
Claro que para la edad de Plácido es muy respetable que todavia pueda cantar. Él mismo reconoce que ya no canta como antes. Y Dimash, si ésta fue su primera vez cantando esa aria y estuvo excelente, imagínense cómo la cantaría si la tuviera muy ensayada😱😱. De los otros, es algo que esperas puesto que de eso viven, o sea, no es sorpresa. Pero sí, definitivamente me gustó mucho más la interpretación de Dimash porque se escucha más limpia, fluida y clara su voz que la de Kaufmann. Porque este último canta muy apretado, como que no le salen las palabras y eso no se escucha agradable.
Love it! I had hoped to hear this type of comparative analysis. Maestro Domingo spent his career as a tenor- of course his technique is that of a tenor. I have listened to the late Dmitri Hvorostovsky in comparison to Dimash with the beautiful trio of Ti Amo Cosi and they are entirely different styles. As you’ve indicated, all of these singers are phenomenal in their own right, I just felt the Dimash/Domingo duet was lighter and - for me - musically more compatible with my tastes. Still worth hearing the different interpretation. Additionally, I suspect that Dimash may not have had quite as much preparation in advance of this performance- he is quite busy these days! Cheers from Canada!
Я не Dear, но мне ближе исполнении Доминго и Димаша. У меня их дуэт вызывает необьяснимое волнение, вплоть до мурашек. Голос Доминго учитывая возраст, звучит прекрасно. Голос Димаша льется как тёплый свет и придает свою изюминку этому классическому произведению, что как мне кажется делает его более современным, и может понравится слушателю который не является 100% люьителем оперы и слушает и поп и классику. Красивый голос Маэстро П. Доминго, как и уникальный голос Д. Хворостовского тоже завораживают.
Thank you for this interesting comparison! Interesting for me because I never heard this piece by "proper opera singers" at the height of their career. 😉I was a little surprised that I really love Domingo and Dimash's duet better, especially because of the tenor sound of Jonas Kaufman. For me his vowels as you say, are too closed and I miss the bright open easy sound that Dimash has. In addition Dimash and Domingo are so connected and go together through this song, no intention to outshine the partner what would have been easy for Dimash, considering the age of Domingo and that he's never been a baritone. But maybe we shouldn't compare at all. But now I'm even more baffled how great Dimash sounds compared to a pure classical tenor - for us it is already so normal what he is capable of - so thank you for reminding us how special and beautifully sounding Dimash is! 😘
Kaufmann is a lovely tenor but he is not landing well with Dimash fans! I feel that there's plenty of space in the world of music for all.
Thank you very much for this video. I really can't understand why some people always have to say negative things and downgrade the greatness.
Спасибо дорогой Уильям. Всегда рад ваши реакции на ангела От бога Димаша.
Ufff qué tarea más dificil, comparar estas voces tan bellas, son presentaciones muy diferentes ambas me gustan mucho, la voz irremplazable de Dmitry Hvorostovky. Dimash nuestro amado, admirado, único y majestuoso con su inigualable voz, el maestro Plácido Domingo entregándonos su dulzura otoñal, y el tenor Kaufman con su potente voz, tenerlos en un solo video y compararlos es un regalo en si mismo. Gracias!!!
Im not a fan of opera style. I only listen to it coz of Dimash and i like it coz his mixin pop in that style which for me will attract more listeners. He is experimenting this style that can let the younger generations enjoyed it more. Maybe I am ignorant but opera needs an acquired taste and mostly for aristocratic and older people😁😁Dimash changed my views. I watched other performances of the famous opera singers with this aria but i got bored. For some reason, i felt like got an ADD symptons, cant sit still or cant focused😂😂However, Dimash and PD, got goosebumps and cried like you..I wonder if Dimash has to make adjustments to his singing in order not to over power PD voice. We know Dimash can belt and hold his breath like no tomorrow..😄😄like always, I enjoyed your reactions and sharing your knowledge, William. Enjoy your beautiful whether in Bangkok coz in Canada been freezing cokd for almost 2 weeks and snowing like crazy😂😂