Petr Barna (TCH) - 1992 Albertville, Men's Free Skate
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2009
- Albertville, FRANCE - 1992 Winter Games, Figure Skating, Men's Free Skate - Petr Barna of Czechoslovakia landed the first quadruple jump at a Winter Games, but his mistakes ended up dropping him from 2nd to 3rd Place overall.
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I don’t think Petr is dull. Beautiful posture hand positions. He probably did deserve the bronze but a bronze is nothing to be disappointed about. I haven’t watched a video of him in years and forgot how handsome he is.
Wow, these commentators worked REALLY HARD to put down this performance! Emotions are not just being showy and stirring up an audience to a frenzy, they can be intense and darker too!
dayum! scott hamilton w the shade! "How Wylie inspires you with his artistry, Petr lulls you." YIKES! OUCH!
Strange ending. I didn’t even know the performance had ended.
Waul Pylie is terrific.
It’s all subjective. I thought Barbs had a better performance than Wylie. Had Barna not fallen he would have won gold.
I respect Barna but this program was a dud! Wylie deserved gold. Barna's music sounded like the soundtrack to the TV show "In Search of...". I was half expecting to hear Nimoy's voice saying "Did Billy Bob Bodine actually see a ufo on the night of August 10th 1971?"
I am happy Paul won silver. Well deserved but get real he did not do it for his coaches; he did it for himself.
Peter best... Wylie only jump...
Not great
Gorgeous triple loop.
That's incredible how figure skating has improved since 1992. Now triples are ordinary and quads are the true difficulty. ABSURD!
All I can say is Paul Wylie fully deserved his silver medal. None of these skaters can even touch his artistry. Paul had difficulty being consistent with his technical elements but when he skated and won the silver he held it together when it counted.
46foryounger 👀..sure,Jan 😏
when since does two foot count as landing a jump. if that's the case JuJozef Sabovčík i landed the first quad not Kurt Browning. He was also a quarter turn short on rotation.
He landed all of 4 clean triples (and I would say three of them were sketchy at best). He two footed his quad. I think his scores where very fair. I would have put him behind Wiley, Bowman and Petrenko.
I am an avid fan of Paul Wiley, but to be fair, he also only landed 4 clean triples. His second triple axel wasn't bad, but had a turn out, his triple salchow was a mess, his second triple lutz turned into a double. And he had no perfect combination jumps because both combinations had a free turn before the 2nd jump.
I don't understand the judging.
I wonder if you get a deduction for finishing BEFORE the music.
+Matthew Hines. LOL! MK got a deduction for going over her music and it wasn't even that bad IMO.
You are geting deductions if your program is too long. Not for not beeing in time with the music.
@@atf7ip Nah. I'm pretty sure there has to be a presentation deduction for a lack of choreography or elements for like 6 seconds at the end of your program while the music runs out.
@@matthewhines9787 Of course they will or should take something away from your presentation mark. But there is no deduction. Michelle Kwan's program was longer then the time limit. So they deducted her.
@@atf7ip Are you under the impression that _I_ brought up Michelle Kwan?
Should have been Paul, Petr, Vicktor at least in my playbook.
Paul Wylie actually deserved the gold medal based on everyone's programs at Albertville. I still believe the judges "held up" Petrenko based on his reputation and that he skated for Russia, and they tried to "hold up" Barna, but Wylie was just too brilliant to put Barna ahead. I understand what the commentators meant about Barna's artistry having a lulling effect. Not only was Wylie's artistry and music inspiring and uplifting, he also skated with lots of interesting choreography (footwork, dazzling spins, etc.) and emotion that shifted appropriately with his music. Barna did a lot of posing and arm movements, almost no footwork, his spins were basic, and emotionally his program was one-dimensional with no variations. If the judges hadn't been so fond of Barna, he could have ended up fourth.
Paul was totally robbed of the gold. He should have won the SP or been no lower than second. Instead, for a flawless program, he got 5.4's. They held him back by judging him on his reputation and not the actual performances he gave both nights.
Petrenko's LP remains the most error-riddled, unworthy Olympic men's gold performance in history. I'm certain he never re-watches it to relive his Olympic "glory". His Olympic win is one of the worst examples of the corruption of the 6.0 system. Adding insult to injury, I thought for years that at least Paul had won the LP, but Petrenko won that too, with three falls and other downgrades and mistakes. The COP isn't perfect and can be manipulated through GOE and PCS, but I'm still glad the 6.0 system is gone forever.
@@L1623VP LOL at saying Paul should have won the short program even. You Paul groupies are too much.
@@grantgoffin4774 Paul groupies? He retired 30 years ago. Where have you been? LOL
Some say Paul deserved gold her but really he was lucky. The real person who should be upset over not getting gold is Liz Manley, Brian Orser, Elvis Stojko; Michelle Kwan - skaters who deserve OGM but life isn't fair.
@@skaterboy-cz9wj Paul Wylie did deserve gold. He wasn't lucky, what he did was show how great he really was on the day he most needed to show it. I agree that the skaters you list were as good or better than the gold medalists and would add Kurt Browning, Yuka Sato, and Janet Lynn.
@ants2876 LOL. Barna was very artistic in his Short Programs, but he was a completely different skater during the LP. This is a disjointed program with an absolutely ATROCIOUS ending. He was very lacking on the tech side too. That Quad you give him so much credit for was a 1/4 turn short (in addition to touching down with the free foot). He only landed 4 Triples and didn't have any standout footwork sequences like he did in the SP. 5.3tech/5.6 presentation here. 1st in the SP, 7th in the LP.
This just evidence of how confused the judges were all night. Such weird marks all around. A 5.9 for 4 triples, a two-footed quad and a fall? Please. Even the 5.8's were too high. Beautiful skater and I think the bronze was deserved but what funky scoring.
this is just evidence how foolish you are. fyi judges do not check the number of jumps only. there is much more in it. please - next time google it before you write your gibberish.
+loco Snooze City......sloooooow
loco Really? The judges don't compare how many clean jumps each skater executed? So if a skater only did two clean jumps, the judges wouldn't consider that? Righhht. Of course it matters. If Barna did four clean triples and Petrenko and Wylie only did three, that would definitely make a difference. These marks don't happen in a vacuum. You have to compare and contrast what everyone did to give the proper score. Yes, the judges also look at spins and footwork but none of those things were so outstanding that it would justify an almost-perfect technical score despite four clean triples.
Dawn Rhodes
try some lessons of reading with comprehension. your focus should be on adverbs. then read my text again, b*tch.
Dawn Rhodes I'm late to this conversation, but you're absolutely correct in questioning the inconsistencies in the judging. This program was heavily flawed technically and artistically. Starting with technique:
1. Heavily underrotated and two footed quad toe attempt
2. Shaky triple Salchow landing
3. Shaky double Axel landing
4. Fall on triple Flip
5. Lack of triple Axel
6. Lack of triple-triple combination
7. Spins were way too simple and lacked any variations in positions
Artistically:
1. Next to no footwork, all he did were crossovers from one jump to the next.
2. Too much posing not enough actually skating
3. Music choice was horrendous
4. The end was terrible the music ran on for 7 seconds and he stood there doing nothing.
I agree
Молодец!!!
@Junon999 but remember quad was 2footed, and NO triple axel!
Ok, so after watching all these performances again, I have Wylie winning, Petrenko taking the tie-break over Barna and Barna taking the tie-break over Urmanov. Then there's Browning in 5th...
What about Elvis Stojko & Christopher Bowman? Both technically did better than Barna & Petrenko.
I personally believe those two should be in the top 4 with Wylie with the gold.
@@TheWayWithKhuwayne well, those first two guys weren’t really in the running, were they? Bowman was terrific and I’ll agree that he skated a cleaner program, albeit less difficult. I don’t remember Stojko’s program too well, but I’ve never been a big fan of his. Urmanov was my guy, but he wasn’t in the running, either.
@@smoothALOE Stojko landed all 8 triples in his program and was the only person of the last 6 to do so.
He was severely undermarked and actually went from 6th down to I believe 7th behind Kurt Browning who had a worser performance than Stojko. I would highly recommend watching Elvis's program & you will see how ridiculous the marking was for him & the entire competition.
@@smoothALOE Stojko was in 6th whilst Christopher I believe was like 8th or 9th after the short program.
Based on the long program, I would have done Elvis first, then Paul, then Christopher then Vitkor then Alexsei & then Barna followed after with Browning.
This order would have meant that Elvis could have gotten the bronze and Christopher would have slotted in the top 5/6 I think, I would need to double check.
@@TheWayWithKhuwayne Stojko was the best technical skater of his generation, without a doubt. His programs became more interesting as time went along, as well. It was his style that I just didn’t care for, but that’s personal taste. Bowman did finish 5th, I believe. He was a great performer, so when he was on, his artistic marks were often very high. I won’t dispute the issues with judging in these Olympics. Viktor only got the gold cause he landed a 3A/3T. There’s no other reason. Most of us pretty much agree it should’ve gone to Wylie. I still think Barna deserved at least a bronze, though. Just my opinion. I think if the judging had been proper during the short program, maybe someone like Bowman or Stojko could’ve snuck in, but the FS community was in love with Browning, so even with his flawed SP, he was still given a chance and blew it.
Barna was awesome, but he DID fall. If he hadn't, I think he would've had himself the silver or even the gold.
Had not fallen on that last jump he would have won gold I think.
Terrible costume
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Automatic .5 deduction!
Funny how Russian's can fall and get 5.9s and 6.0s still. Cheating judges.
How can this be considered artistic when there is no attention to music or phrasing whatsoever...not to mention finishing ahead of the music