LET'S ARGUE: Trap Is the WORST Thing to Happen to Rap

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  • Опубликовано: 8 мар 2018
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  • @wzulek
    @wzulek 6 лет назад +1753

    anthony looking like pokemon trainer

    • @emersonherrera4939
      @emersonherrera4939 5 лет назад

      😂😂😂🚶🏃

    • @iCanBeHeroic
      @iCanBeHeroic 5 лет назад +5

      Bass Boy wants to battle!

    • @jezusmylord
      @jezusmylord 4 года назад +7

      He likes shorts, they are comfy and easy to wear.

    • @bbpoison5519
      @bbpoison5519 4 года назад +7

      he looks like spongebob when he was training gary for the snail race

    • @burcolclone8322
      @burcolclone8322 4 года назад +2

      @Richard Trischka Coach Melon wants to battle!

  • @hazimnadeem
    @hazimnadeem 6 лет назад +7136

    Next wave is gonna be rapping over anime theme songs

    • @losinfinite
      @losinfinite 6 лет назад +65

      Check out Mega Ran aka Random aka Random Beats

    • @KlutzStreaky
      @KlutzStreaky 6 лет назад +710

      Hazim I'm pretty sure that's already happening

    • @otissweatpants
      @otissweatpants 6 лет назад +277

      Hazim That’s been a thing

    • @Kizzeret
      @Kizzeret 6 лет назад +84

      Yachty did it on dipset

    • @joshuasutton983
      @joshuasutton983 6 лет назад +137

      Hazim The next wave is going to be me waving at the melon.

  • @yunggalxe8424
    @yunggalxe8424 5 лет назад +508

    Anthony looks like a middle school wrestling coach

    • @pringlesmegastack8575
      @pringlesmegastack8575 4 года назад +16

      Yung galXE calling him a pedophile is a bit far fetched

    • @David-se5ph
      @David-se5ph 4 года назад +3

      pringles mega stack 😂😂😂😂 I swear Fantano fans are ridiculous

    • @Sleepgarden
      @Sleepgarden 3 года назад +4

      Sportsany
      Coachtano

  • @Shovlaxnet
    @Shovlaxnet 6 лет назад +2445

    "It's getting kinda irritating..."
    *gives Lil Pump a 7 for innovation*

    • @xsic2429
      @xsic2429 5 лет назад +88

      I mean most trap songs aren’t that high energy level and raunchy production

    • @justadrian2569
      @justadrian2569 5 лет назад +5

      Tarityreheytwortthrtttryrduesiwurtuerettuetytt

    • @engelbergmunoz3179
      @engelbergmunoz3179 5 лет назад +48

      "Iiiissssshhhhgeeeeetttiiiiiitttt"- 10th President of the Empire of The United Western Colonized States of The United God Emperor Trump Earth
      Lillian Pumpernickle aka Lil Pump

    • @lionheart7324
      @lionheart7324 5 лет назад +8

      I know Im late but this is a perfect example of why I dont get why people take this guy's musical opinions seriously. Dude literally said chance's coloring book was better than acid rap and 10 day and also said hopsin doesnt have any good music then says lil pump is a 7. Im sorry but I cant

    • @MostafaElSakari
      @MostafaElSakari 4 года назад +13

      He actually brought about a lot of the trends we see now

  • @mrduckfatty
    @mrduckfatty 6 лет назад +1614

    Anthony Fantano was the worst thing to happen to that family he killed in the summer of 2004.

    • @JishtheFish
      @JishtheFish 6 лет назад +192

      He did after he found out that Tyler the Creator had been kissing boys.

    • @danielkelly1829
      @danielkelly1829 6 лет назад +35

      lachlan wood youve got him confused with Sam hyde

    • @masutasaru2740
      @masutasaru2740 6 лет назад +67

      daniel kelly I still cant believe the police havent arrested him after all those mass shootings he's done. #fuckthepolice.

    • @adamsilver1717
      @adamsilver1717 6 лет назад +15

      lachlan wood #neverforget

    • @lilyell6978
      @lilyell6978 6 лет назад +31

      dark, icy BLACK METAL influenced knife wounds

  • @DogBeef
    @DogBeef 6 лет назад +2977

    The guy asked you about Trap *MUSIC* , You didn't need to go on a 9 minute transphobic rant!

    • @purodeathcore
      @purodeathcore 6 лет назад +200

      DogBeef can y'all just stop with this lame ass meme

    • @bckroobnzi141
      @bckroobnzi141 6 лет назад +185

      Master Knowledge Lol it’s funny, screw off

    • @berniehoe9960
      @berniehoe9960 6 лет назад +125

      DogBeef this is actually pretty funny lmao

    • @JimJamSandwich
      @JimJamSandwich 6 лет назад +14

      FancyLlamas It's been run deep into the ground... Enough is enough.

    • @infusedwithsepticpuss
      @infusedwithsepticpuss 6 лет назад +2

      10/10

  • @Chymistry
    @Chymistry 6 лет назад +2347

    I disagree. The worst thing to happen to rap was the dance rap era with artists like soulja boy. It was also ringtone melodies with everyone just trying to make a catchy hook.

    • @sonikku956
      @sonikku956 6 лет назад +74

      Dr Funkenstein No it's not, fight me 1v1 m8

    • @gooba93
      @gooba93 6 лет назад +270

      young soulja had HITS stop slandering his name, he is one of a kind. The ORIGINAL internet rapper.

    • @k.r2081
      @k.r2081 6 лет назад +3

      Chymistry that is true

    • @camokazi1313
      @camokazi1313 6 лет назад +83

      Chymistry Which birthed the simple-minded trap music we hear today.

    • @Thyrion07
      @Thyrion07 6 лет назад +18

      HOMIEZ OVA HOES

  • @TreasureTrain
    @TreasureTrain 6 лет назад +917

    so when are you gonna start selling shirts and hats that say "I Agree With This To An Extent" and "I Agree With This To A Certain Degree"

  • @FrankJavCee
    @FrankJavCee 6 лет назад +3467

    𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓅 𝒾𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒𝒹

  • @Breakbeats92.5
    @Breakbeats92.5 6 лет назад +551

    I grew up on "The Golden Age" of Hip Hop and yea, I'm not crazy about the new shit, but yo, I will say this. I love the energy. I like the high energy that the new cats are bringing. We can't expect every generation of MC to adhere our own personal expectations of what a rapper should be.

  • @kazonikz
    @kazonikz 6 лет назад +2792

    *OK, hear me out on this:
    Rapping over classical music could really be a thing.*

    • @hansijawns
      @hansijawns 6 лет назад +264

      I mean, it kinda is a thing. Just look at "Imaginary Places"

    • @jlay9876
      @jlay9876 6 лет назад +212

      Nas- I can

    • @holdendeez69
      @holdendeez69 6 лет назад +76

      imaginary places, green towels, those are both *rap over classical music* groups

    • @teehundeart
      @teehundeart 6 лет назад +12

      Lucas Bicske has been done already

    • @Liimbozo
      @Liimbozo 6 лет назад +102

      Meek Mill's Lord Knows is literally a Mozart sample with drums added.

  • @idlecaption
    @idlecaption 6 лет назад +279

    Completely agree with Fantano about Elvis. I have a professor who used to work for Colonel Tom Parker, which some of you may know, was the manager of Elvis. If you look more into Parker’s past, he used to be a con artist who scammed people for money (not gonna go to far into that do you research.
    But anyways, my professor worked for Elvis at a young age and has told a few stories about the experience. One that has been sticking with me is a conversation he had with Elvis about Elvis’s live performance. Elvis apparently was noticeably upset and said, “I think I’m a pretty good live musician and vocalist but all I need to do is go out and shake my hips and everyone screams at the top of their lungs”. Many people know this but during Elvis’s final couple of months he was very depressed and highly medicated by the request of Parker because Elvis would be so reluctant to go on stage due to people wanting to see him for his sex appeal rather than his music.
    Colonel Tom Parker also knew some people loved Elvis but an equal amount of people hated him. So what he did was set up 2 offices for making merchandise, one being the “I Love Elvis” office and the other the “I Hate Elvis” office, writing reviews and producing shirts for both markets.
    On a lighter note, another kind of funny story he’s told is how one of his summers working for Colonel Tom Parker involved him painting the rocks around his house for hours. The only parts of the job were him painting rocks and when Colonel Parker showed up at the house, he would have to sit down and talk with him over some beers and cigars.
    Anyways all of this kind of shows how much Colonel Tom Parker influenced Elvis’s rise and demise. Parker knew the market, took advantage of that (as well as a bigger paycheck than Elvis ever saw). Parker was a marketing genius but a big asshole and Elvis was a musician who struggled to have his real voice heard.

    • @asger7442
      @asger7442 4 года назад +2

      Idle Caption anyone have a TL;DR

    • @upside93
      @upside93 4 года назад +13

      @@asger7442 TL;DR: Elvis really wanted to be known as a musician as opposed to a sex symbol but he followed the instructions wrong and now his dick is stuck in a blender

    • @5udimax
      @5udimax 4 года назад +1

      @@upside93 more like he is stuck in a grave

    • @brittonwilliams9607
      @brittonwilliams9607 4 года назад +10

      That’s pretty depressing

    • @sumirunihon
      @sumirunihon Год назад +1

      Jesus Christ dude separate your shit into paragraphs next time

  • @CraftWon
    @CraftWon 6 лет назад +257

    Nothing wrong with trap. Like Rock, HipHop needs well defined sub genres so that we know what we like and what to stay away from. Calling everything HipHop is bad for the entire genre.

    • @mcbill7352
      @mcbill7352 4 года назад +10

      So much music is "trap influenced" now it's getting irritating. Other artists who would normally not be making music in the genre are being forced to use it to stay relevant

    • @profeseurchemical
      @profeseurchemical 4 года назад +11

      i mean hiphop does have subgenres, just maybe not as well established in the publicsphere as rock genres, but then again, alot of rock just gets labled as rock, so maybe its a broader problem in music?

    • @abdoonyt9049
      @abdoonyt9049 4 года назад +2

      I dont hate trap but its getting annoying, just hearing it from MAJORITY of the artists depending on production and beats and some also get away with that BY TAKING THE CREDITS FOR THE PRODUCTION (ex: Pierre produced Die Lit but many people are saying Carti is good, even though it was pierre's production that was good. Carti didn't do all that much.) And trap is also gotten generic, people love listening to Uzi, Kodak Black, etc. The most generic trap artists.

    • @calebjudy3073
      @calebjudy3073 2 года назад +3

      @@abdoonyt9049 Your so lost from the trap scene dude no one is putting uzi on the same level kodak lmao Uzi is super fucking talented as well as Carti the man was making good classic rap songs at like 16-18 do some digging he evolved his sound cus he likes the art its not a cash grab and hes clearly taking risk. Also there would be no Travis Scott/Future pscyhedlic trap sound and hiphop would be a lot more boring wihtout it hiphop rappers like kendrick and freddie gibbs take influence from trap artist to hell andre 3k says Future is one of his favorite rappers

    • @abdoonyt9049
      @abdoonyt9049 2 года назад +2

      @@calebjudy3073 you could say so, but i have never stated once that any of those artists are bad. It's just getting boring. Travis Scott is extremely talented and he's one of yhe few artists that makes me keep my faith in trap. Also, the way kendrick and freddie use trap as an influence is not directly implement it in their music, it's subtle but it makes their music better. And so what if Andre's favourite rapper is future? He's not an objective criteria to make a rapper good. Future's music is and always was ass (will elaborate if you want me to). Most of your arguments are based on influence more than talking about their sonical talent. While I appreciate carti trying to experiment, his style was hot garbage to begin with, but that's subjective.

  • @johnjohnson-os5gw
    @johnjohnson-os5gw 6 лет назад +241

    Ok, hear me out on this:
    Rapping over 1920s swing music IS a really good thing

    • @zachbohemian
      @zachbohemian 5 лет назад +25

      rapping over 80s hair metal

    • @Tony_Miller
      @Tony_Miller 5 лет назад +3

      LegoGuy87 Walk this Way was a 70s hard rock song. Not hair metal

    • @stephen5601
      @stephen5601 5 лет назад +13

      I prefer rap over 1700’s sea shanties.

    • @50shadesofgandalfthegrey57
      @50shadesofgandalfthegrey57 5 лет назад +2

      it isn’t 1920s, but now in the future there’s a video out there of a guy rapping over frank sinatra

    • @engelbergmunoz3179
      @engelbergmunoz3179 5 лет назад

      @@stephen5601 Sounds like Travi$ Scott

  • @finnacide
    @finnacide 6 лет назад +434

    Why do you look like you smoke viceroys and play major 7th chords on a fender strat

    • @sadman5916
      @sadman5916 5 лет назад +15

      Minor 7ths!

    • @BigKnecht
      @BigKnecht 5 лет назад

      Looks exactly like german rapper Plusmacher, google "Plattenbauromantik".

    • @IncompleteStranger
      @IncompleteStranger 5 лет назад +11

      Fender Jaguar*

    • @sadman5916
      @sadman5916 5 лет назад +19

      @@IncompleteStranger Nah I think it was a reference to Mac Demarco, who uses a strat mainly. Although I can see why you'd say that, as Jaguars seem to be a top pick for indie- hipsters.

    • @N3rdburgring
      @N3rdburgring 5 лет назад +5

      Squier strat*

  • @Thomas-nz4si
    @Thomas-nz4si 5 лет назад +123

    The post-trap era of hip hop might be pretty neat because of its influence.

    • @4am555
      @4am555 4 года назад +1

      I mean Trap still need to develop a lot
      One day Travis, Young Thug, Future or Metro Boomin will drop an album that is the peak on quality of Trap or an album that reinvent Trap again with a lot of difference

    • @calebjudy3073
      @calebjudy3073 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for your sanity... Psychedlic Trap like travis is a undeniably cool and trippy sound despite how saturated and can be I personally cant get enough when im fucked up

    • @Sumokai
      @Sumokai 2 года назад

      We’re entering it

    • @ashtagbeats
      @ashtagbeats Год назад +1

      @@4am555 I feel like this was Metro’s last album. Not that it was mind blowing, but kinda feels like a final victory lap for the genre kinda

  • @Bandstand
    @Bandstand 6 лет назад +1397

    What do you have against traps Antnee?

    • @user-uh2vs6zz4w
      @user-uh2vs6zz4w 6 лет назад +59

      Hot Samples You Need To Know About #69 coming soon

    • @StevenSenegalU
      @StevenSenegalU 6 лет назад +4

      AntKNEEE

    • @xanatanuwu
      @xanatanuwu 6 лет назад +4

      Am I a trap if I like to crossdress?

    • @MattinZeberio
      @MattinZeberio 6 лет назад +23

      1) trap flavored hi hats
      2) rattling hi hats

    • @JoeDirtisawsome
      @JoeDirtisawsome 6 лет назад +11

      its not gay if he wears a skirt

  • @rjh1073
    @rjh1073 6 лет назад +806

    He’s gonna give the new logic album-mixtape (same thing), a decent to strong 5, you heard it here first.

  • @CatmanJimbo
    @CatmanJimbo 6 лет назад +17

    100% right on ability to avoid stuff you don't care about. I'm 26 and the frequency at which older people ask me about trendy stuff and I draw a total blank has been increasing at an alarming rate lol

    • @Blake8833
      @Blake8833 Год назад +2

      How’s 30?🤪

    • @CatmanJimbo
      @CatmanJimbo Год назад +3

      @@Blake8833 lmao! 31 actually. It does feel like compared to when I wrote this comment, it has gotten harder to avoid that stuff. All the internet companies pushing their algorithms and heavily weighting the "suggested content" will do that I suppose.

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 6 лет назад +772

    You kids are lucky you didn't have to live through the "crunk" period of rap in the 2000s

    • @ksager123
      @ksager123 6 лет назад +75

      TheSnoozeFox it was better than this

    • @lj9759
      @lj9759 6 лет назад +156

      By kids what you mean? Cause I'm 17 and remember crunk and it was a lot better than mumble rap. I'll take Lil Jon, Gucci Mane, Ludacris and Juvenile over Lil Yatchy, Young Thug Kodak Black and Lil Pump anyday haha

    • @MusiColeMF
      @MusiColeMF 6 лет назад +93

      If crunk music and trap music were both of my children, I would allow crunk music to stay in my house and kick trap music into the cold to die

    • @CoryMck
      @CoryMck 6 лет назад +26

      Crunk, Boom Bap, and 'Gangsta's Need Love too' were all superior sub-genres

    • @SatoshiKong
      @SatoshiKong 6 лет назад +29

      I get really nostalgic for crunk quite often, actually. That was easily the most fun mainstream hip-hop ever got.

  • @aggressivebabooneyes2200
    @aggressivebabooneyes2200 6 лет назад +108

    Review the 5-page paper that I haven't started yet even though its due at midnight

  • @BennyOkay
    @BennyOkay 6 лет назад +148

    Don’t forget that artists like frank and Vince staples and the internet (and therefore Steve lacy) had their paths paved by or with Tyler’s help

    • @konway17
      @konway17 6 лет назад +36

      Benjamin Kelkis Tyler is the one who literally made them who they are, it’s crazy that people don’t realize how much Tyler has done for alternative music in general in the last decade

    • @Spaceghostmarine
      @Spaceghostmarine 6 лет назад +1

      Thats true

    • @ethanflynn1369
      @ethanflynn1369 6 лет назад +18

      I can't even imagine how different music would be without Tyler

    • @Keesha_Hardy
      @Keesha_Hardy 6 лет назад +7

      King Aesthetic Exactly. I'm not some huge Tyler fan, but he's at the very least, an icon in music.

    • @loganhiltibidal799
      @loganhiltibidal799 6 лет назад

      King Aesthetic Vince isn’t alternative music at all?

  • @nikolademitri731
    @nikolademitri731 6 лет назад +828

    I believe it was Nina Simone who said, “It’s not jazz, it’s black classical music.” Right on.

    • @huey6248
      @huey6248 6 лет назад +51

      Yeah she said that
      But fuck that, fuck inclusion Jazz is our classical music and it's sexy af

    • @KingJobber
      @KingJobber 6 лет назад +238

      Nikola Demitri as someone from New Orleans, Jazz may have been invented by black people but it is the most inclusive genre out there. Jazz is for everyone

    • @verily2840
      @verily2840 6 лет назад +22

      The saying is overused, but Nina Simone truly lived before her time.

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 6 лет назад +132

      You both missed my point. I didn’t mean to imply anything about inclusion, or any other political rhetorical BS. I posted the quote as a response to the “classical music is X, and all other music is X”, as a means of pointing out the complexity of jazz music, nothing more or less...
      Also, Nina didn’t say that in a racist way, or exclusionary way, when she said it. It was in part, a response to criticism of jazz, and the predictable “classical music is the only good music” type of sentiment.
      Nina was classically trained on piano when she was young, and would have attended one of the most prestigious music school/programs there was, but her color and sex/gender held her back. She played as a jazz musician because she was left out of the opportunity to play as a classical pianist. Jazz was a natural alternative, not simply because it was something you could be black and make a career out of (though obviously that played a part), but because it was/is a complex style that takes real talent, arguably the only genre that touches classical music in its complexity.
      I know that’s a mouthful, but hopefully you get the point: I made the comment as a response to the comment about classical music, bc Nina made the comment to point out the depth and complexity of jazz.
      I’m well aware jazz is diverse, I have studied it, and listen to quite a bit of it. Thanks for your points, it’s completely valid, but it doesn’t have anything to do with what I meant. I figured the context of the video was enough context for the comment, but it’s an understandable misunderstanding... ✌🏼

    • @jonathancouch4603
      @jonathancouch4603 6 лет назад +8

      Nikola Demitri
      Well said

  • @jakesibley897
    @jakesibley897 6 лет назад +17

    The classical era was the heigh of technicality in music? Lol, sure, except for literally every western art music movement after the classical movement (except for maybe some minimalist stuff). Like... Come on. Classical was extremely complex, but it was a few hundred years ago. People have been absolutely pushing the boundaries since. Contemporary chamber composition has gotten fucking CRAZY, man. They're playing individual notes 5 cents apart over there.

  • @POVShotgun
    @POVShotgun 6 лет назад +24

    JPEGMAFIA looks like a 3D character in GTA 5 in that photo.

  • @immichaeljordan6414
    @immichaeljordan6414 6 лет назад +38

    Stop it. Get some help.

    • @Obejays
      @Obejays 6 лет назад +4

      I'm Michael Jordan meme

    • @punani_slayer4209
      @punani_slayer4209 3 года назад +2

      I just wanted to thank you Micheal Jordan because of you I have been getting therapy for the last 2 years and my life is in a much better place thanks to you.

  • @elperronimo
    @elperronimo 6 лет назад +209

    Why is anthony dressed like a canadian tho

  • @nightrvn
    @nightrvn 6 лет назад +77

    Fakethoni Taxiano here

  • @stuartlittleman1
    @stuartlittleman1 6 лет назад +103

    Tyler is extremely influential

  • @Renegade24
    @Renegade24 6 лет назад +64

    hell edm is partically dead because of it going mainstream

    • @lmao-ev6nz
      @lmao-ev6nz 6 лет назад +6

      Ronald Regan The only mainstream edm artist are chainsmokers and clean bandit. The sort of popular edm artists are put in the back of the pack.

    • @CoryMck
      @CoryMck 6 лет назад +5

      Calvin Harris, Diplo, Skrillex, dj marshmello, etc

    • @lmao-ev6nz
      @lmao-ev6nz 6 лет назад +4

      Cory Mck All those artist are barely mainstream right now, except marshemello who collabed with logic.

    • @lmao-ev6nz
      @lmao-ev6nz 6 лет назад +3

      And I mean artist who are popular without a pop artist slapped on the title

    • @timothyrosko9394
      @timothyrosko9394 6 лет назад +6

      Good riddance

  • @hisham_hm
    @hisham_hm 4 года назад +12

    2:24 Melon cannot deny the influence that his hat is influenced by Tyler's in the background

  • @matthewwilliams739
    @matthewwilliams739 5 лет назад +6

    Although I've been a long time fan of your album reviews, but I've just begun to tune into your 'let's argue' videos. I have to say: As a musician, music educator, and amateur music critique, I learn a lot from your journalism. You're very insightful about music culture and thank you for taking the time to make these. If possible, it would awesome if you could include short samples of some of the music you mention.

    • @afk_hesh
      @afk_hesh Год назад

      What does being a music educator look like for you? It's something I've been passionate about in my personal life, I taught like 5 or 6 different friends how to use FL studio and they all make music pretty consistently to this day. However going to school to be any kind of educator is a big commitment so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts

  • @nathanaelwiebe7632
    @nathanaelwiebe7632 6 лет назад +631

    So Elvis is the old Drake lol

  • @miguelcastellanos2323
    @miguelcastellanos2323 6 лет назад +99

    Hi, Anthony. Have a good day.

  • @MrBrawl
    @MrBrawl 6 лет назад +10

    I made it, lads and lady lads.
    And I agree with what you said, Antny! It's all cyclical and there will be another fad to become the mainstream flavor of hip hop. I definitely do not think mainstream hip hop is dying because of trap, just stuck in a rut right now. Thank you for featuring my rage in your video.

  • @atrijitdas1704
    @atrijitdas1704 6 лет назад +1

    it's almost 3am where I'm at. binging on all the "Let's Argue" vids. This was a great idea for this channel. Keep em coming

  • @Renegade24
    @Renegade24 6 лет назад +13

    a song genre is dead when youtubers start making music in it

  • @bussterdouglas
    @bussterdouglas 6 лет назад +44

    It’s the best & worst thing to happen to rap it’s brought some of the rawest emotion and also the least emotion in any music to date. We are definitely reaching the end of the era thank god but early trap really brought back an energy I haven’t felt since the punk and hardcore scene

    • @itzlucaaa6789
      @itzlucaaa6789 4 года назад +5

      Yea. There are some great trap albums like Rodeo but now the market is saturated and the top trappers are people like Blueface
      I do see lots of experimental/lyrical hip hop starting to become big so maybe that will replace trap? Or maybe it’s just going on at the same time?

    • @4am555
      @4am555 4 года назад +4

      Is 2020 and Trap is not dying. The only thing that "died" is the "Florida Trap" (Smokepurrp & Lil Pump)

    • @4am555
      @4am555 4 года назад +1

      @@itzlucaaa6789 after Some Rap Songs a lot of people are making that type of sound but they are not mainstream

  • @LiveTheDream24
    @LiveTheDream24 6 лет назад +140

    He is right, there are some UNREAL drummers in the Metal genre. First two that come to mind are Oceans Ate Alaska and Animal's As Leaders. There are many others too

    • @oisinmcshane
      @oisinmcshane 6 лет назад

      Bryan Fjardo - Phobia, PLF, Noisear and just about every other Grind band from Orange County

    • @kentfindlay9614
      @kentfindlay9614 6 лет назад +9

      That guy from Cryptopsy

    • @Z--..
      @Z--.. 6 лет назад +20

      Mario Duplantier from Gojira and fucking Thomas Haake

    • @jamesgorman899
      @jamesgorman899 6 лет назад +1

      OAA drummer is absolutely insane

    • @davidking6132
      @davidking6132 5 лет назад +5

      Tomas Haake, Meshuggah's drummer easily takes the cake. You just don't hear the kind of shit he does, he truly is a machine.

  • @Wakeupcj
    @Wakeupcj 6 лет назад +6

    The same people who say they love hip hop and “real rap” is go far to say most of them like a lot of Kanye’s music but never come to realize he invented the auto tune rap shit. and I love every bit of it.

  • @JLatBeats
    @JLatBeats 6 лет назад +484

    Notificanthony Gangtano here

    • @MrAbomb234
      @MrAbomb234 6 лет назад +15

      J. Lat Unoriginalthony Postano here

    • @JLatBeats
      @JLatBeats 6 лет назад +8

      SecretLizardPoliceSquad YoureNothany Wrongtano here

  • @Forcasify
    @Forcasify 6 лет назад +177

    Dogthany Fartano here

  • @coleton7048
    @coleton7048 6 лет назад +2

    These are your best videos along side your reviews. Keep doing these.

  • @mayan2312
    @mayan2312 6 лет назад +1

    My favorite video type, KEEP EM COMING MELLON MAN!!!!

  • @yupicorsic
    @yupicorsic 6 лет назад +41

    Hey melon i wanna know how your 7 children are doing

    • @videojames1
      @videojames1 6 лет назад +3

      mmmaxaz johnny to his oldest daughter anthony junior are just fine

  • @UMadBro13
    @UMadBro13 6 лет назад +3

    I don't know if I'm in my feels rn or what but I just really appreciate Anthony being nice at the end of his videos and saying stuff like "I love you". Thank you speaking melon man 🍈

  • @RSOSA-gv3cp
    @RSOSA-gv3cp 6 лет назад

    The way you share your opinions TRIGGERS ME!

  • @amentamrateabshir1051
    @amentamrateabshir1051 6 лет назад +2

    Hey M.Fantano can you please make this a weekly show so it’s easy for us to prep the questions

  • @gregorywilliams8614
    @gregorywilliams8614 5 лет назад +4

    Busdriver has rapped over classical music in his song Imaginary Places. It was amazing so don't knock it until you listen to it.

  • @onsesejoo2605
    @onsesejoo2605 6 лет назад +6

    3:49 Progressive rock / pop and heavy metal is indeed filled with trained musicians since the day one of prog. Usually the story goes that they have taken lessons and theory to get the technique. Then they have moved their own direction armed with musical knowledge how to get the ideas out and to the others.
    To find new artist is more difficult. The format radios and no Music Channels on Tv, all is shattered all over the internet. You can suddenly bump into an artist who has dozens of millions wiews but have never heard of.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 6 лет назад

      Indeed.

    • @trentonmullins4948
      @trentonmullins4948 5 лет назад

      Ladarion johnson pop does have some talented musicians like bruno mars

  • @gatorcuhfoo7982
    @gatorcuhfoo7982 2 года назад +1

    this really felt like more of a lets agree than a lets argue, very cool and awesome

  • @timboturnbomb2592
    @timboturnbomb2592 6 лет назад

    Love hearing your opinions keep the content coming

  • @jordank5328
    @jordank5328 6 лет назад +50

    I think the comment about metal priding itself on technicality due to a deliberate ignorance of classical music is a pretty inaccurate statement. Most of the technical metal guitarists, ranging from shred heads like Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen to the guys in heavier groups like Meshuggah explicitly state a reverence and appreciation for classical music. Some metal players site speicifc symphonic passages as inspirations for solos and riffs. To say they are ignoring classical is patently false.

    • @groovysnake6664
      @groovysnake6664 6 лет назад +2

      Jordan K Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen aren't what most would consider "tech metal". They're more "neo-classical" so yeah they pretty much wear their influence on their sleeves. Tech metal in general seems to focus more on percussion and complex song structure with an emphasis on dissonance and aggression, so the critique checks out.

  • @jnasilowska
    @jnasilowska 6 лет назад +122

    Why is Charlie Brown talking about trap music...?
    I woulda thought he'd be more into Snoop(y) Dogg...

    • @jnasilowska
      @jnasilowska 6 лет назад +12

      A melon, dressed up as Charlie Brown, blowin' a whistle, talkin about Trap...
      Yeah, that shit's funny.

  • @IbrahemYounas
    @IbrahemYounas 6 лет назад

    Seriously *Andoindo* *Badamwambo* , this is my favorite series you do. pls keep making these

  • @justfetus
    @justfetus 6 лет назад

    hey Anthony, I think Let's Argue is your best series. Keep it up

  • @jxiris
    @jxiris 6 лет назад +3

    Feeling your fresh new look Hipsthony Stertano

  • @Dookie5495
    @Dookie5495 6 лет назад +19

    Speaking of internet niche, when’s the next it came from Bandcamp segment?

    • @sidtehduck
      @sidtehduck 6 лет назад +1

      Dookie5495 "The series is still alive. new episode should be this weekend."
      -bandthony camptano on his reddit ama

  • @sh3mwell
    @sh3mwell 6 лет назад

    KEEP MAKING THESE FANTANO MUCH LOVE

  • @RajaReign78
    @RajaReign78 6 лет назад

    Your Let’s Argue feeds my soul ❤️

  • @maxwellmccomb8603
    @maxwellmccomb8603 6 лет назад +22

    Lol I wrote a whole college essay about how rapping over classical music needs to be incorporated into contemporary music more

    • @djmeagaaim17
      @djmeagaaim17 6 лет назад +1

      Maxwell McComb Why do you say that?

    • @mozbeats4717
      @mozbeats4717 3 года назад +3

      Where can i read it

  • @alexjohnson9798
    @alexjohnson9798 6 лет назад +303

    that hat needs an early retirement

  • @oceandark3044
    @oceandark3044 6 лет назад +1

    @Verlanzius' comment
    Actually, there are a few metal bands out there which take a stab at trying to work at the classical music angle. The only major limitation (if you can call it that) is that most metal bands don't have enough instruments... frankly because electric amplification transmits such a broad spectrum of sound that one guitar takes up the frequency range of what used to be two or more ranges of classical instrumentation. In a way, that means you have to look towards chamber music as the true classical genre that spawned modern music.
    In any case, though, there are bands out there trying for a layered sound with their few instruments that reach that sort of complexity. They tend to do so through jazz (such as Yakuza) but there are a few taking a stab at classical arrangement with their few instruments. Honestly, I think King Crimson is my go-to here. They certainly do stretch the limits of sonic diversity, but they were also doing their best to work on layering. Even before you hit "neo-classical" metal, I think King Crimson and their descendants are carrying forward that kind of complexity.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 6 лет назад

      Very interesting.

  • @schwerny
    @schwerny 6 лет назад

    These videos are amazing I just wish they were longer

  • @jgilly223
    @jgilly223 6 лет назад +8

    trap as a genre is most definitely not the worst thing to happen to rap in itself, the genre just happened to align with the time where soundcloud rapping has hit an all time high, and the relatively simple format of most contemporary trap music has made it easier to vomit out mediocre and outright uninspired music than anything before it. If trap happened 10 years ago, there wouldn't have been even close to as much as an issue with it.

    • @yweitering
      @yweitering 5 лет назад +2

      Trap exist longer than 10 year. Three 6 mafia, soulja Boy, evne brokcyde used 808 etc and producers around 2008/2009

    • @trentonmullins4948
      @trentonmullins4948 5 лет назад

      Dude Soup trap is trash and needs to die out

    • @trentonmullins4948
      @trentonmullins4948 5 лет назад

      w952018 th 3 6 mafia is actually enjoyable to listen to and you can actually understand wtf they’re saying unlike these trash ass lil whatever’s nowadays

    • @4am555
      @4am555 4 года назад

      @@trentonmullins4948 man trap is not trash and if you cant understand rappers get some help because the only Rapper you cant understand is Rich the Kid

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 Год назад

      BROKENCYDE should be banished to the shadow realm. Blehhhh...

  • @yd856
    @yd856 4 года назад +14

    Trap has its moments, ex my pfp, Die Lit, Astroworld, culture 1

    • @vaughnordakowski8774
      @vaughnordakowski8774 4 года назад

      Astroworld paled in comparison to travis Scott's earlier albums. Cant respect it all. Hes turning into drake where he could release a 26 song album and people could hate most of the stuff but still find one song that goes viral. Then continue to praise them like he is a genius

    • @AlextremoLUL
      @AlextremoLUL 4 года назад +6

      @@vaughnordakowski8774 did u even listen to astroworld??

    • @greesud3929
      @greesud3929 4 года назад

      @@vaughnordakowski8774 I must admit, Rodeo was travis scotts best album but i'd say astroworld is really close, it isnt even too different from his other albums. you've probably only heard like 3 songs off the album anyway.

    • @vaughnordakowski8774
      @vaughnordakowski8774 4 года назад

      @@AlextremoLUL I did

    • @vaughnordakowski8774
      @vaughnordakowski8774 4 года назад

      @@greesud3929 I listened to all of them. In my comparison to rodeo it probably sounded like I hated astroworld more than i do. I liked astroworld actually, but I've already seen other artist go down the same path he is now. It's pretty blatant and for enjoyment I dont blame you getting similar amounts out of astroworld as you did rodeo. The thing is though, you cannot tell me astroworld is anywhere near as unique and stylized as rodeo. Main thing I'm saying is travis is really going for mass appeal party music and is getting further away from the in depth emotions he'd explore earlier in his career

  • @cragnog
    @cragnog 6 лет назад

    Damn fantano man, you said a couple things that hit me hard in this one (both before the Elvies bit btw)

  • @nachodiaz4837
    @nachodiaz4837 2 года назад

    ABSOLUTELY LOVE CYNIC'S FOCUS COVER ON THE BACKGROUND ANTHONY THANK YOU VERY M0000CH

  • @GenericNameems
    @GenericNameems 6 лет назад +279

    Short answer: no

    • @thedude6734
      @thedude6734 6 лет назад +61

      haha Short answer: Yes, yes indeed

    • @mihlu.3929
      @mihlu.3929 6 лет назад +15

      The Dude corrected answer: no definitely no.

    • @thedude6734
      @thedude6734 6 лет назад +3

      Mihlu the otaku Corrected, corrected answer: Probably, probably

    • @joshuasutton983
      @joshuasutton983 6 лет назад +23

      haha Let's Argue: The melon is the worst thing to happen to fruits.

    • @sagebeer
      @sagebeer 6 лет назад

      Gross

  • @Torthrodhel
    @Torthrodhel 6 лет назад +6

    "a style which has been around for 100s of years has explored more boundaries than a style that has been around for 10s of years"
    fair contest if i ever saw one.

  • @victorfinne1493
    @victorfinne1493 6 лет назад

    Man i love ur vids. He started the video with blowing a whistle. Legendthony traptano!

  • @o00thunderhawk00o
    @o00thunderhawk00o 6 лет назад

    yo the remasters of old stuff on new vinyl is so dope or the high res options if to want old music you can have it better than ever before and if you want new stuff there is new stuff everyday!

  • @coryswanson2247
    @coryswanson2247 4 года назад +3

    2:40
    How close is ‘The Hatred’ by Snowgoons to this tho. Not purely classical but a huge strings influence on the beat

  • @beepbeep2446
    @beepbeep2446 6 лет назад +47

    Do you guys think we’re gonna have Post-Trap I.e. the change from Trap to something else like punk music.

    • @fastandbulbous6282
      @fastandbulbous6282 6 лет назад +16

      Leo Cachero Post trap = good kid m.A.A.d city

    • @mileidyclass
      @mileidyclass 6 лет назад

      Possibly.

    • @beepbeep2446
      @beepbeep2446 6 лет назад +9

      FAST AND B U L B O U S I don’t really see that. good kid brought back the rise of “conscious hip hop”, but I wouldn’t say it’s post trap. Trap was in its infant stages in the 90s then it came to its early rock stage. Like comparing it to the 50s 60s Elvis/Beatles/Stones Era of Rock. We were in an early 70s stage with some new genres of rap, and now we’re nearing the late stage with the punk era.

    • @lo-fireviews2693
      @lo-fireviews2693 6 лет назад +1

      Bottomless Pit was definitely punk influenced

    • @FLIGHT.1
      @FLIGHT.1 6 лет назад +4

      Someone will master Trippie’s style soon enough

  • @aidanludlum6602
    @aidanludlum6602 6 лет назад

    Thank you so much for using my take ILY

  • @theflyingcrud
    @theflyingcrud 6 лет назад

    Favorite segment, I would be fine with this being daily

  • @miserableoutcast
    @miserableoutcast 6 лет назад +3

    Honestly you can rap over a classical sample, Imaginary Places by Bus Driver is probably the best case I can think of. That song is fucking fire

  • @young_raymond47
    @young_raymond47 6 лет назад +5

    That comment about this music era being the best is too true. I used to be one of those guys who constantly complained about radio music being so uninspiring, saturated with the same shit etc. Then I stopped being stupid and went to find more music that might interest me; the funny thing is it’s not even hard. I don’t even dislike radio hits that much anymore because I don’t hear them non-stop. I simply have some trusted sources for new music (funnily enough theneedledrop isn’t one I just follow for the occasional entertaining video) and listen to a combination of new stuff that comes out (underground or at the very least not mainstream) and listen to classic albums that I’ve always heard about but never bothered to listen to. Funny thing about people who go on about music from the 90’s is that back then they didn’t even listen to everything they now love from that era; access was limited and interests were largely regional. In fact in genre’s like hip-hop, the east coast west coast divide meant half of what was being put out was outright ignored by the average consumer. Honestly people who complain about the radio in 2018 are just dumb because they don’t recognise how easy it is to avoid it.

  • @antico4446
    @antico4446 6 лет назад +2

    In regards to the comment about classical, I'd say Jazz pushed the boundaries much farther than Classical did, and I think Tech death sorta combines elements of both genres to get its sound.

  • @zackgeary8320
    @zackgeary8320 6 лет назад

    This was a really interesting video, thank you Fantano. You are a musical prophet of the 21st century

  • @sleepleZZZV3
    @sleepleZZZV3 6 лет назад +3

    I hope hip-hop/rap music never die!!!😢

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 Год назад +1

      It'll only evolve like all music genres typically do over time.

  • @thewatchdog9581
    @thewatchdog9581 5 лет назад +4

    Next wave could be rapping over lofi hip hop (Earl Sweatshirt And Chester Watson)
    Edited *Chester* cause I spelled it wrong lol

  • @matthewdmiller4335
    @matthewdmiller4335 6 лет назад

    ok so you touched on a topic that I am actually equiped to answer. as far as technical death metal not being as diverse in it's sound as classical music I fully agree. But you need to understand that what we define as "classical music" is a mishmash of songs that while old now are bound together under the guise of being similar despite a variety of different influences. flamenco is vastly different from bach for example.

    • @matthewdmiller4335
      @matthewdmiller4335 6 лет назад

      I do find however that technical deathmetal does tend to lend itself to the same cliche'd fast riff vocals on some rythem lather rinse and repeat. it's worth noting that the vast majority of technical death metal guitarist are classically trained, yet they are constrained by both rampant elitism within the metal community and limited to distortion and the overall presence of single notes as a result. should you play a classical piece like "noche di estio" on an electric with distortion you will see a beautiful piece of music reduced to absurd noise. hence the limitations in complexity and range that is possible in classical music.

  • @leeleeleelee420
    @leeleeleelee420 6 лет назад

    tony you HAVE TO SEE PEGGY LIVE bruh. he is an animal. you struck me with lightning when his 'jpeg' (harharhar) hit the screen. dude is a beast, talented, deep, super respectful to his fans, and only getting started. GREAT VIDEO!!!!

  • @kinggeedra2796
    @kinggeedra2796 6 лет назад +109

    8:30 WHAT ABOUT INJURY RESERVE?????

    • @Kubloo
      @Kubloo 6 лет назад +5

      KING GEEDRA What are you doing outside of the Best Friends comment section. (You’re right btw)

    • @POVShotgun
      @POVShotgun 6 лет назад +9

      They never sounded experimental. Really traditional sounding to me, like BROCKHAMPTON.

    • @Joela393
      @Joela393 6 лет назад

      Pankaj Ahuja
      Brockhampton isn't traditional

    • @dlaba2337
      @dlaba2337 5 лет назад

      I fuckin love injury reserve

  • @MisterSteambathRules
    @MisterSteambathRules 4 года назад +4

    "rapping over classical music could be a thing" uhhhhh Finally Rich

  • @SoulfulPancake
    @SoulfulPancake 6 лет назад +1

    i like these vids antee! also have u heard jamie stewart has a solo project coming out april 28th????

  • @AlisterTate
    @AlisterTate 4 года назад +2

    3:35 Rafael Trujillo from Obscura has insane music chops in general. Dude's stupid good at guitar.

  • @adhhxgxhhg
    @adhhxgxhhg 6 лет назад +11

    *THENEEDLEDICK*

  • @tobieolson242
    @tobieolson242 6 лет назад +180

    The dude who said trap is the worst is probably a Logic fan. And artists like Kanye and Travi$ Scott have used auto tune in a very artistic and creative way.

    • @autumn4514
      @autumn4514 6 лет назад +50

      Tobie Olson The complaint wasn't auto tune alone, it was auto tune becoming prevalent. So the people who do use it well are drowned out by a wave of people using it as a way to mask a lack of ability, and giving auto tune a bad rep.

    • @ethanstangl855
      @ethanstangl855 6 лет назад +8

      Trap is kinda gay tho. Its terrible for the most part. There are exceptions like a lot of Travis Scott's stuff. But also logic is trash so I'll give you that.

    • @CHIEFS_DYNASTY_
      @CHIEFS_DYNASTY_ 6 лет назад

      Ethan Stangl yeah okay Ethan

    • @ethanstangl855
      @ethanstangl855 6 лет назад +11

      darth boner culture 2 is the epitemy of trap and also the epitemy of garbage. Culture wasnt terrible, but culture 2 gave me cancer like 4 or 5 songs in.

    • @tomatowaste2517
      @tomatowaste2517 6 лет назад

      Ethan Stangl not the epitome of trap, still terrible album

  • @lachrome
    @lachrome 6 лет назад

    I like your whistle fantano. Great video.

  • @Jordan-hs5kf
    @Jordan-hs5kf 6 лет назад +1

    Rapping over classical music already happened! Oi Melon, do I have to remind you of Imaginary Places by Busdriver?

  • @Tyberes
    @Tyberes 6 лет назад +6

    >Rapping over classical isn't viable
    Tell that to Libera me from Hell.

  • @user-dm6os1ub7g
    @user-dm6os1ub7g 6 лет назад +2

    Thoughts on Joey's and XXX's King's Dead remix?

  • @Chinoj10
    @Chinoj10 6 лет назад +1

    Trap is amazing and fun, it’s also paved a way for some new heights! I’m 21 and prefer listening to Blackstar, Aquemini, The Roots etc. But here and there I like to just have fun and listen to the latest trap song. Shout out to all the “new generation” artists, because just like you and me. They’re just tryna get it

  • @dilansishta3561
    @dilansishta3561 5 лет назад +2

    7:35 as a metalhead in college I cannot escape rap they burrough into every where here

  • @OMMOBILIEN-MOGUL
    @OMMOBILIEN-MOGUL 6 лет назад +4

    I remember when every trap song had trumpet in the beats

  • @MrGNugget
    @MrGNugget 6 лет назад +43

    You really don't think rapping over classical music could be a thing? That would be dope lmao

    • @losinfinite
      @losinfinite 6 лет назад +2

      check out the artist Thee Phantom . I think you can stream his album Hero Complex on youtube

    • @zfish1995
      @zfish1995 6 лет назад +3

      Libera me from Hell

    • @lePPa-7h
      @lePPa-7h 6 лет назад +15

      That'd be so bad and pretentious

    • @buzzerking
      @buzzerking 6 лет назад +1

      @SimplyleppA
      Busdriver - Imaginary Places. Not really classical but vaguely in that direction

    • @christ.9178
      @christ.9178 6 лет назад +4

      It's already happened on numerous occasions.

  • @fede2
    @fede2 6 лет назад

    Regarding the comment about this being the best time for music availability, I get the point, but it misses the big picture. It's true that you can listen to and discover just about anything with the click of a mouse, but on the flip side this lends itself to a situation in which one is oversaturated *precisely because* of all of these options. You can listen to everything, but you never really get to listen to anything. It shapes your attention span. I was still a teenager before the iPod became a widespread phenomenon and, yes, I had to wait a month for allowance in order to go to the record store and by a CD or two, but that month was much more enriching in that I would spend my time listening to nothing *but* those CD's and taking in all of their layers. There was something new to discover in every listen. It's been years since I've been able to do that.

  • @keridegen8409
    @keridegen8409 6 лет назад

    idk what melon's opinions on "visions of gandhi" by jedi mind tricks are, but rapping with classical music in the production MADE that album great