Rep. Nancy Mace Shares Her Perspective On Reproductive Rights | The View
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She talked about her trauma but is willing to support Trump after many women voiced it. Other women's trauma doesn't matter?
Typically hypocritical, that's why...
Right! Like does she not hear her self talk.
Rules for thee but not for me! -GOP motto
This woman is full of it. MAGA at its best.
And Trump is a rapist 🙄
Her voting record does not reflect her rhetoric. 🤨.
Exactly. She was just in the war room with Bannon. That says it all
Well she's a republican so that's pretty normal.
And left is on point? 😂
Honestly
Would of been nice if this segment had more time
Thought the same thing
It was long enough
didn't agree with her but +1
Not if it's just Whoopi talking over the guest.
I’m feening for more of this segment I appreciate republican guest, though I may disagree with their policies. I get to actually hear there point of view and identify them for what they say and who they are to fairly understand and see fully who’s in our government.
Whoopi holds her fire for moments like these. I appreciate it.
That’s wasn’t fire that was an uninformed opinion. Her altitude is drag on the iconic show
A bit absolute, she is calling for zero restriction, not even trying to understand or work with the opposition
Why didn’t Whoopi give a limit on abortion?
Lol…because she had an abortion
Whoopi is dreadfully misinformed as are most people who support abortion on demand. Proof? Ok, look up the name Jennifer Morbelli. She was a 29 year old teacher. She decided to kill her child at 33 weeks. That's 8 1/4 months gestation. Why'd she decide to kill the child she already named Madison? It was reported that they told her the child would have seizures after it was born. Not that it wouldn't live. Not that it couldn't maintain a life while possibly having seizures. So they terminated the child. But when they did - the mother dies from the complications of the abortion too. Now just think about that for a minute. That is beyond sad and my heart aches for her husband and their family. What happened to her and that child is sick. And disgusting. And it didn't have to happen. If she didn't want to deal with the child's seizures then give it up for adoption. At least give it up for adoption. Look at the joy that so many Down Syndrome babies bring to families. You don't have to kill what God has allowed to live.
Omg thank you Whoopi. Nobody is supporting or having voluntary abortions at 9mths. This talking point is ridiculous. Also what is the point she was trying to make about rapist? Made no sense.
It's not a talking point. The law in many blue states allow for abortion up until the 9th month.
That's why Democrats don't give a limit on abortion.
@@elizabethstanley7137 Please point us to that law. We aren't famaliar with it at all.
@@pousseandco Check out the abortion laws in blue states.
Mace isn't making that up.🙄
@@elizabethstanley7137Nope liar even In Minnesota my state women pregnant and on drugs can be forced to be locked up and sent to treatment. You lying republikkkans are absolutely making this talking point up.
@@angeldaisy5248 Many blue states allow abortion until the 9th month. Why would Mace lie about that? 🙄
I'm gonna watch this again, just to see Whoopie.
YES Whoopi appreciate you speaking on this for so many women!
The view is like the one bachelorette that is annoying to everyone but they keep her just make things and little crazier lol…..what a joke lol lol lol
She didn’t even let Whoopi ask her question….
She is a serial opportunist. Her gerrymandered district has to be redrawn back to the swing district it once was and she's been on a desperate campaign to say she supports policies her party absolutely despises. She is only concerned about her party losing! She has said so before! She said the quiet part out loud in an interview that I saw with her. She stands for nothing but extreme policies we all hate. She just can't say it without losing her job and her party losing power.
NO ONE GETS AN ABORTION AT 9 MONTHS!!!
After 23 weeks, in cases of the life of the mother, induction and c-section occur. But not an abortion. I wish our leaders and television hosts know this, and share this information.
They know. They don't care.
Right. At 9 months it's called giving birth to a baby. It's a deceitful argument which is frequently trotted out. It needs to be challenged.
Its called live birth at 9 months.
I've had this discussion with Evangelicals before. They know that hospitals don't allow abortions after a certain point. The Evangelicals are lying. They are slinging mud.
Okay, then there shouldn't be any problem banning them if nobody is having them.
Sunnys face throughout this segment... lol loved it
wished Sunny had participated more in this segment especially to counter Mace's points
She's a catholic
@@xavierwong6022 Sunny is 50/50 . She's a lawyer so she's all about peoples rights, but also a catholic at heart, so she's often says she's against abortion. So it's better she didn't say anything.
@@hm-ys4ymbut hate mAGA lIES about 9 Month bulshit
Sunny is a racist
Poor people pay taxes too. They have a right to a government funded abortion!
I'm not paying you with my money to allow you to massacre a child. Now I'm speaking about contraception. Not happening. You don't get to make a baby and charge the rest of us to fix your irresponsibility.
I dont know, Whoopi makes a good point. Nobody goes out looking for a late term abortion, thats used as a scare tactic.
So, the 9-month thing came from Va's last Gov when someone asked about abortion at nine months, and this is his statement below, and it's verbatim. BUt they took this as Democrats are for killing a baby right up to the moment of birth.
Julie certainly can't speak for delegate Tran but I will tell you one the first thing I would say This is why this decisions could be made by providers or physicians and the mothers and fathers that that involved there are you know when we talk about third trimester abortions these are done with the consent of obviously the the mother with the consent of the physicians more than one physician by the way and it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities there may be a a fetus that's non-viable so in this particular example if a mother is in labor I can tell you exactly what would happen the infant would be delivered the infant would be kept comfortable the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother so but I think this was really blown out of proportion but again
Really you can prove that no one anywhere has ever looked for a late term abortion can you provide your sources?
@@carnivorepolice5-0 You're the accuser; cite yours.
On the side, I have NEVER met a medical professional who has ever termed an abortion late pregnancy. Never. I don't even know a woman in her right mind (yeah, I know) who even conceived of the idea. Quit spouting right wing rhetoric w/o thinking about it first.
Whoopi's point is the fundamental difference between the two ideologies at the moment. The sane crowd sees this as a civil rights issue (an American having autonomy over their own body), and the dingbat crowd see this as a religious, authoritarian issue (the baby deserves the right to live). The issue isn't even ABOUT ABORTION; it's about the rights that a woman has over her own body.
Had God created man such that A) the baby formed outside the womb, or B) the man got pregnant instead of the woman, then we wouldn't even be having this debate, because you know good and well that no man on earth is going to allow a government to impose their will over his own body.
You can't just snap your fingers and receive a late term abortion, you have to look for it first.
Here's a good laugh: GOP: The party of freedom.
It's only freedom if you comply to their demand! Ops, sound like a cult to me.
@@maxkwok7084That sounds like the Democrat party.
Freedom loving Americans tend to be Republicans while those who want to be dependent and controlled by the government are Democrats.
Freedom catered to their liking at the expense of others
Straight up Whoopi Goldberg 💯💯💯💯
No Cap!
There's no justification for abortion after the first trimester that isn't because of a life-or-death medical situation.
The fact that she only cares somewhat about women’s rights because SHE personally was a victim of rape - if she wasn’t, I highly doubt she would care this much honestly
It's like that for all of the vanilla flavored republican women. They dgaf until they realize they're not exempt from their policies. Also, don't let this nazi fool you. ROE was the compromise. She's trying to manipulate the debate by moving the middle
She literally said second trimester which is what roe was.
PREACH, WHOOPI !!!
I love Whoopi's passion on women issues
The congresswoman is unable to represent or truly care for all women or women’s personal, private medical decisions - - she was composed until this topic was raised. What a shame.
So a women should be able to have an abortion at whatever month she chooses? 6,7,or even 9 months??? I’m sorry but no. Absolutely not, that is a baby that could survive without mothers mothers body. That’s murder
@Justme0288 no one is saying that.. but also I don't know any woman or doctor waiting to 9mths for abortion
@@issyikhis3449 but the question is at what point should an abortion not be possible? Whoopi didn't answer that. The congresswoman did, she said the second trimester and she talked about exceptions of rape and incest. Whether that's a good idea or not it's a position a conversation could be had around. Whoopi's is "it's between me and my doctor." Well that potentially could be up to 9 months and republicans can point to that position and say democrats want no restrictions. Whoopi could have said it should be later than the congresswoman's position, should include more exceptions but she didn't.
Honestly if I heard only Whoopi's words and her mention of beliefs, I would assume she was talking to a religious fundamentalist that thought the government should step in at conception to protect the baby.
@@jmhorange If an abortion is happening that late, it's not because of the reason conservatives give. It's because something WRONG has happened in the process and this woman has some really bad news coming from her doctor. I don't understand why you people like to think abortions around this time are "just cause"
Because the lies can't hide in the light...and the devil was revealed!
Good argument Whoopie ❤
I would like her to explain why they keep saying nine months. Give us an example what you’re talking about.
I think it’s because of how the the laws are written. But ultimately it challenges you think through your logic. For arguments sake, if no one ever had an abortion at 9 months, is 8 months okay, or 7…?
I don’t understand the arbitrary line of when people think it’s okay.
Nancy, no one has said that you cant have the conversation without talking about rapists....what am i missing?
Do you think if she got pregnant by that rapist she would still have it? We know the answer to that!
It's called strawmanning. She intentionally deflected from the point being made.
She also deflected by bringing up getting rid of cash bail....in CA that doesn't apply to rape...
Exactly she was talking in so many circles she started confusing herself 😂😂😂 that's what happens when all your responses are rehearsed you have to try to memorize your answers.
@@IMHTP deflecting whataboutism and denial are all out of the MAGA playbook. She is faithful to the party of trump.
Thank you Whoopi!!!
For literally 30 seconds I was rooting for her until she said she'd support Trump as candidate. Then her unraveling of hypocritical points just made me feel like all Republicans are this way. Power over people.
Democrats always vote for Democrats. Biden needs to be in a nursing home, but you will still vote for him because he's a Democrat. You sound hypocritical.
Oh good grief. That's like saying all Democrats support Biden. It's simply not true. You are part of the problem that divides this Nation. You categorize people by their political affiliations. Newsflash. I am a Democrat but I do support abortion limits especially in healthy pregnancies. Power over people? You must be referring to AOC.
Yep. She "understands why abortion shouldn't be 100% illegal because she was raped," but she'll support Trump, a known rapist. That's what I was waiting to hear Whoopi or, more likely, Joy say to her.
Mace kept trying to talk over Whoopi, that's always the GOP strategy when they're losing an argument. Talking louder does not make you right.
Whoopi talks over everyone but never really says anything. Mace is pretty sensible, she believes in choice and making things easier for women after they give birth or to prevent pregnancy. It’s not unreasonable to have a 12-16 week limit. That’s months to decide to abort your child or not, with of course exceptions for the mothers life/rape/incest. The latter two usually are performed well before 12-16 weeks. Both sides need to come to an agreement and 12-16 weeks with exceptions shouldn’t have objections because it’s common sense.
Whoopi habitually talks over guests and co-hosts and waffles on about absolute nonsense. Rarely does she make strong points.
Wrong, she totally stumped Whoopi when she pointed out that Whoopi wants the government to stay out of her business except paying for the abortion..., classic!!
@@hm-ys4ymthe government doesn’t pay for Abortions 🤦🏽♀️
Facts!!! She’s a hypocrite at best.
THANK you, Whoopie! AND, no doctor would perform an abortion at 9 months!!! I also agree with others making comments that this segment should have been longer!
But Whoopi didn't give any cut off date for abortions. Whoopi can say democrats are not for 9 months. As far as I know, I have never heard them articulate up to 9 months. But Whoopi's position is de facto 9 months. The congresswoman gave second trimester and listed exceptions. Whoopi gave no time frame. It's just, "it's between me and my doctor." And as far as no doctor performing at 9 months, doctors have a Hippocratic oath. We still have laws to prevent doctors from causing harm. This segment shouldn't have been longer cause Whoopi steamrolled her. She didn't have any alternatives to what the moderate republican gave. She could have given later dates or more exceptions but she didn't, she just shut down the conversation.
Unless there is a medical need
Have you heard.about born alive bills?
Unless they count DNCs after miscarriages as abortion. I think the gop inflate the numbers of DNCs to prove their narratives on late term abortions.
This is common practice in California, do some research!!
I'm sorry but rape or incest for a 12 years old getting pregnant isn't the only thing to accept her to have an abortion.... Like even "regular" sex. Like at 12 you are not old enough to take care of a child.
A 12 year old can't legally consent to sex. There's no "regular" sex for 12 year olds 💀. Any impregnated 12 year old is a victim of a crime
This is always your counterback? thats like 1 percent most cases are stupid women who are knocked up by trashy men
Shouldn't be opening your legs at 12 anyway.
So are you saying if a 12 year old consented to sex and got pregnant the baby should be killed anyhow?
@@kellyrobinson6220
What about the TEN-YEAR-OLD CHILD that was violently raped?
Her mother had to take her out of state to get an abortion.
So, if your 10-year-old daughter was violently raped...you'd be fine with that, and have a big baby shower for her?
Not even considering how that would traumatize her for the REST OF HER LIFE???
She didn't "open her legs"...her legs were FORCED open.
If this is Republican voice of moderation then we are doomed.
😂😂😂
According to a study done by associate professor Diana Greene Foster and assistant professor Katrina Kimport, they cited A 26-year-old Latina woman in New Mexico, who had an abortion at 7 months gestation. Why did she have it? She said, “I was afraid of my boyfriend finding out, and I went [ to the abortion clinic ] once he was in jail.”
Her 7 month old baby didn't have fetal anomalies. It didn't have a brain outside it's head. She simply waited because she was scared her boyfriend would find out so went and had it done at 7 months once he was in jail. My heart aches for that young lady - but that is sick. They had to cut up her healthy baby into pieces to remove it. And I don't think anybody reading my words right now can say in their heart of hearts that they agree with such a thing. Surely, you don't. Look. The LORD offers grace to people who have sinned. He offered it to me. So one can certainly be forgiven. But we don't have to do this. We don't allow people to kill their children outside the womb because of a mean boyfriend do we? Then why should it be ok to do it inside the womb? It's the same child.
Never thought I would ever see anyone in this country defend killing babies, then claim it's more moderate to want more children killed. Do you know in New York more black babies are murdered in the mothers womb than are born? that means in New York city the most dangerous place for a baby to be, is in their own mothers womb. We truly are in the end times.
I think she was very reasonable and balanced.
@@camara1194 No she wasn't. She wants to force her beliefs on others and when questioned resorted to whataboutisms. It's just a remainder that even the "moderate" republicans in the US are just puppets.
Thank you Whoopi.
I can’t stand it when people want to use their religious beliefs to curtail someone’s beliefs. Nobody is telling you to get an abortion but you can’t decide for me what I should do with my body.
Ending human life has nothing to do with religious beliefs. There are non believers which are pro life.
@@hayleylorenzo6709 but at the end of the day, what you choose to do with your body should be your choice
Of course not but a person’s personal medical decisions are btw them and their doctor, your church isn’t allowed
@andredrw289 You have free choice, true, but there has always been a limit to free choice. You can not use your body for certain things that infringe on the rights of another. The question is not the free choice of your body. The question at hamd is whether it is infringing on the rights of another.
@katiebarbour1963 Not true. In this country, it is actually illegal to take a life, including your own. You can not go to any doctor legally and choose to end your life, so why is it legal to end another life? 🤔
I have a sticker on my car that says, "If I wanted the government in my womb I'd "eff" a senator" The government needs to butt out of this and put the laws back the way they were.
Okay my 97 year old devout Catholic grandmother who had 10 children said it best, "abortion should not be in the political arena at all. It's between the woman and her doctor."
And such is the problem with all too many Catholics.
@@kcamerak ew you're the problem.. did you listen? My grandma had 10 kids..what's wrong with you? Let people choose weirdo.
@@kcamerak people like you are so deeply deeply deeply ignorant. What happens when you outlaw abortion idiot? Think about it as a public health problem and be realistic. Women will find ways to have abortions and they have so since the beginning so you might as well make them legal and in a safe medical setting. BECAUSE ITS A MEDICAL PROCEDURE. I bet you can't even explain to procedure. I bet you know nothing of the actual process.
A womans decisions about her body regarding sexual health should be between her and her doctor only - this should not be a political decision but an informed health decision -
Excellent point Whoopi!
Whoopie knows. Glad to have her voice out there ringing for all women!!
But there also needs to be a voice ringing out for all children! (There are 2 lives impacted here... not just one)
@@jeremyinvrsorry but a parasite shouldn't have more rights than its host lol.
@sycamore-tree540 it's not a parasite... parasites aren't of the same species. And what a horrible thing to call a human to try to justify your position. "Parasites" are always bad... they aren't good if you want it and bad if you can't afford it.
And again, it's a living human. It's 2 lives, and both matter.
@@sycamore-tree540when does that “parasite” become a human baby?
@@tlove861 when it can survive outside the womb
Yesssssssss Whoopie!!!!!
Why do Republicans feel like it is their right to make abortion laws to tell other women whether they should have an abortion or not? That Republican lady seem to intentionally over talk Whoopi, to avoid listening to her opinion on abortion. She knew what Whoopi was going to say but kept over talking her to drown out her perspective. I guarantee that Republican woman has heard what Whoopi was trying to say from other voters, across the country, who challenged her abortion views. Whoopi is right, it should be a woman’s choice to have an abortion. It’s her own body. No woman on earth is going to carry a baby full term 9-months and then turn around and get an abortion. That doesn’t make sense. The woman would give the baby up for adoption first thing, if she didn’t want it.
If you will trust a women with an infant, then why wouldn't you trust her to know what needs to happen in the pregnancy without police and courts and involved?
Government should be involved just as the government is involved when a murder happens. Fool bye
Thank you Lady Whoopi💯🎤✊🏾
WHAT NANCY MACE ON HER THIRD HUSBAND. THIS WOMAN NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE
Nailed it Whoopie ❤
We needed Joy Behar here for this conversation
As a fellow South Carolinian, the representative has what we call a “ slick mouth.” Appears as if they are knowledgeable while all the ignorance of what they’re really saying obliterates the entire look. For shame.
When they started talking over each other, this reminded me of the GOP debate.
Whoopi needed to snap on her because she just wasn't getting it.
I wish they had more time for these segments
Agreed! Women’s Right’s discussion could be an entire show!
💯
But they had to spend 4 minutes talking about Taylor swifts love life...who gives a 🤬
Whoopi covered that last episode. Now they have a podcast that continues the discussion.
Thank You Whoopi ❤
When Whoopi is passionate about something you better be prepared. This woman wasn’t equipped to stand her ground. Try again…..
Go Whoopie !!!
Yes Whoopie your right!
Thank you Whoopi for defending women and the freedom of Choice
Murder is murder.
@@WeedWitch1620lies, lies. The Amery Police killed innocent young black men
People like Nancy depress me
Whoopi Goldberg looking good today
In a life threatening situation a woman’s life vs the baby’s life…who has the right to life?
They both do. If the child’s life ends as a result of caring for the mother, then it’s called a tragedy. What would you think of a woman who gave her life for her child’s?
@@Andy-roo148 Of course a man would say this. Women are full adult human beings who have the right to save their own lives.
@@missngfrombrooklyn I didn’t think I said anything on the contrary. I just said that it’s sad because both of their lives have value. Can you explain what you mean?
When it comes to a right to life argument I believe the woman who is already born who has a birth certificate has priority over the fetus in an emergency where only one can be saved. Of course both have value. If both lives can be saved, that is the ideal. Pregnancy can cause damage to a woman’s body. This can cause life threatening complications. That’s why the right to abortion care is necessary.
It’s a huge assumption to believe that a child will have a lovely life once born.
What does that have to do with this topic? Abortion extinguishes a human life, therefor the act is *murder.*
@@mattrismattI'm thinking she's referring to a pregnancy where it's Not viable. Meaning the fetus will die or already is dead. Also, in cases where the mother's life is in danger. Somehow it's forgotten that the woman was born and Is already alive which most don't seem to care about. Personally, I've never met or heard of any woman having or needing an abortion in the third trimester. It's in rare cases when the child has passed away in utero, again it's rare
@@mattrismattmost pro-lifers also believe in the death penalty.
How is being pro-death penalty being "pro-life"??
It's hypocrisy and per usual, "rules for thee but not for me"
You're either for ALL pro-life or you're not.
It's a rare instance of black or white.
@@jthomasmack I'd like to see the country move in the direction of abolishing abortions and the death penalty.
From my point of view, matters of morality and politics are black or white in almost all cases.
@@musiclove4635 I don't know what the OP meant, but I wasn't referring to viability. I said abortion is murder. Bringing up rare cases comes across as attempts to diminish the severity of this moral issue.
This woman cannot be trusted with anything she says. She will only say the right thing when it is convenient to her. I am tired of the media trying to paint her like she is a moderate. When it is perfectly clear, she is a far right winger.
Everyone to the right of you is far right. She seems pretty moderate and willing to negotiate. Personally there shouldn't be any issues with any abortion upto and immediately after birth.
Mace is more interested in talking than listening. She's not to be trusted. Don't believe her.
As opposed to Whoopi? Blind, AND deaf?
Whoopi got that opportunist all the way together
Thanks You!! Whoopi women should be able to make their own choices.
Wow….the choice to have their child killed? Disgusting!!! Should not even be a consideration let alone a choice!
@@thelmaaugustine2471 The rapist had a choice not to commit rape that's Disgusting and should also be considered not to be his choice to commit rape.
She wasn’t listening!! Thanks Whoopi!!
Whoopie Rock's, this guest was a crocky one.
We want exactly what Roe gave us! ❤
This! Roe was the middle ground! Without it, there is no middle ground to build off of, which is something crater face mace fails to bring up. They shouldn’t have ever invited her on this platform, she flip flops too much and is scared she will be gerrymandered out next year.
And republicans have lost every race since roe. Exactly what I wanted, and I love it. ❤
Screw Roe. It was a mistake to begin with. Now you get to close your legs for a change.
@@Biggerbyte what about the person who force them open and forced himself in between them
Whoopi Goldberg is always on her A Game when it comes to these abortion topics
Always 💯
No, she is not. Because she is not addressing when the baby starts having rights. Viability is somewhere between 22-24 weeks GA--when do babies get human rights?
@@chrisgrace81you arevmissing whoopi point. You are talking about viabilità. Whoopi is talking about the right of the woman to make decisions based on the woman beliefs.
@chrisgrace81 when it is outside of the woman's body. NOBODY has an abortion in the 3rd trimester, just because they want to!! I hate the lies that Republicans tell about " oh woman decide during birth they don't want the baby and its aborted!" That doesn't happen!! At that point the doctor would be obligated to deliver the baby and it would be put up for adoption. During a third trimester Abortions are only performed if the child is not viable or the mother's life isn't danger, and then they would deliver the baby and hope that the baby could survive outside of the mother. Republicans just loved to tell that lie
@@joep3770 and Mace is talking about the more important and practical thing which is when is the limit to how women are allowed to have an abortion. Mace is saying that the second trimester is the a good limit whereas Whoopi instead was getting into some vague discussion of women's right to choose which Mace did not disagree as she stated that she agreed that women should have the right to abortion but not all the way until its 9 months. So Whoopi is most definitely NOT on her A Game, as usual.
Why were promises made to Mace not kept? Now, "we" know why. Because Mace's legislation for women's issues are full of crap. They are limiting. That's not having it both ways. Freedom is freedom. There's no limitations in freedom. If there were it would not be freedom.
Go Whoppie!
She is not that moderate when I watched her in the House.
Yes, she is one of the two-faced crazy cult members in the Congress. Remember she supported Trump.
Moderate. Girl, she's prepping for her 2028 presidential run by trying to sound sane. The GOP bar is sooooo low that she just sounds Moderate compared to them. Softer package, same authoritarianism.
What if the daughter is 12 and is too afraid to tell her parents, or doesn't know, that she's pregnant. They may not find out until she's in her 9th month? Republicans need to give their predatory heads a shake.
Please explain to me how having an abortion at 9 months is better for that 12 year old? She still has to give birth to a dead fully formed corpse of a baby if she was going to get an abortion that late. At that point induce labor and give it up for adoption. Do you think an abortion at 9 months magically makes the pregnancy go poof? Gone?
@@user-cg7wt3bx5y there's no such thing as an abortion at 9 months. I'm so glad I was here to clear that up for you.
@@yourpetyourway you are dreadfully misinformed. Use your favorite search engine and type in the name Jennifer Morbelli. And you can help yourself to stop misinforming others. I'm so glad I was here to clear that up for you.
You would honestly support killing a nine month old baby because the girl was 12? Seriously? And 11 people have hit like on your comment? I agree with @user-cg7wt3bx5y, It's not going to help that 12 year old one bit. In fact, it may compound the problem for her to have to grow up knowing she was coerced into killing her nine month old baby. What kind of psychological damage does that do to a child who then becomes an adult. The LORD says, "Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good." Give the baby up for adoption at least! We don't have to murder it just because it resides in a womb where nobody can hear it cry. God bless you. I hope you will reconsider your position.
So what is your comment referring to?? @@yourpetyourway
I’m not interested in blaming men who’ve raped a woman or a child or anything else. I don’t have to have a conversation about the criminal to discuss my options, to discuss my life, to discuss my body. It’s funny how “my body my choice” didn’t mean anything to some people until they thought a vaccine was gonna be forced on them. Then all about my body, my choice…except for abortions-that’s your body, my choice
She seems so passionate about rape and yet, she will support a convicted rapist.
Thank you Whoopi, you killed it!
It’s so hypocritical. Pro life and pro guns and no social care for the kids they force on these women, causing possibly untold trauma to the kids life and future, and no universal health care for all. It’s insane. Total priority blindness
Peoples' top priorities should be *responsibility,* not skirting their responsibility by taking away their created baby's right to life. Don't people know what can happen when they have sex?
"no social care for the kids they force on these women" is not the issue in question. The fundamental issue: Abortion deliberately extinguishes a human life. *Abortion is murder.*
@@mattrismatt oh blah blah blah. It’s not more murder than you swatting a fly. It’s not even viable and can live on its own. It’s cells.
The responsible thing to do if you don’t want to raise a child is not to. Not to be forced to raise it badly. There’s more of us on the planet than we can handle as it is.
Even god murdered gazillions of people and animals by drowning them.
People have zero responsibility to pro create. And Americans especially are extremely hypocritical giving the whole it’s murder to abort some cells, but won’t give up their guns to save their children in school who ARE viable and actually deserve to be safe. No health care for these kids. That’s too much to ask of the government apparently. Just bring them into the world because that’s their right, and then toss them into a dumpster to free to death or be shot or go hungry because there isn’t any food. Where’s your responsibility to human life then? Actual human life that can survive on its own? It’s utter BS. You aren’t pro life at all. It’s a complete lie!
I suppose you are vegan too! Capture flies and throw back outside. Don’t wear leather on your feet. You never get in a car or fly on a plane I guess, because those things are killing us all. It’s ok to invade other countries I guess and send your military into action. What about all the black lives your police force keep shooting? Hypocrisy at its absolute finest.
It’s utterly and completely irresponsible to force people to be parents when they aren’t ready and don’t want to be. That’s not doing a kindness to those kids at ALL. Those people are not going to do right by their kids and all those lives are ruined for what. Because you can’t keep your nose out of business that isn’t yours. And it’s only selective outcry at that.
This woamn is a tremendous actress. So full of paradox. Playing the ethical and moral carda, and then would blindely support a criminal just because it's her party. Before she was saying she's an independent voice who calls out her party. My God!!
what is a carda?
@@annamg338 cards :)
There are no limits given by them because they know and understand issues with a pregnant woman and baby can and do arise all the way up to the last day of pregnancy. If a specific issue isn't put in as an exception, then it isn't covered by the exeptions list and both mother and doctor can be held accountable for breaking the law.
Go Whoop 🙌
Thank you Whoopi!
whoopi and her talk over others when she doesnt agree usually annoys me but I was here for it during this segment!
I don't know anyone that's getting an abortion at 9 months. Why is this always a talking point? where is the data to support it? I wish people like Nancy Mace would talk about the GOP plans for after a baby is born, to support it and mother, to make sure it has a life outside the womb. She came apart when challenged by Whoopi.
It's always a talking point because GOP strategists craft the argument in the most extreme way conceivable in hopes of eliciting the most public fury.
Roe limit was 22-24 weeks, for 50 years. This DEFINITELY should not be a States Rights issue.
Definitely should NOT be a federal issue.
@@annamg338 It definitely should be considering so many middle america and southern states actually use christianity, one single specific religion, to decide concocted rules for abortion. Especially when THEY bring religion into it, and proudly feel justified in oppressing other religions, such as Judaism, and Jews living IN those states, that is NOT against abortion.
Even in southern red states, the Torah still even recommends abortions under certain circumstances, and its NEVER considered murder, so the punishment, for example, if someone attacks a pregnant woman, and only the fetus is killed - the punishment is simply a fine.
Being a state issue doesn't get to make it a christian-based decision, as per MANY states stated reasoning, and oppress Judaism and Jews. Period.
And, Roe compromised with modern day science and used minimal viability limitations for survival outside of the womb, and smart incest/rape/health of the mother stipulations. This showed respect for everyone - AND IF YOU PERSONALLY WERE AGAINST ABORTION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE - YOU WERE PERFECTLY ALLOWED TO NOT HAVE AN ABORTION. Stop with the assumption that states are allowed to oppress non-christians, or simply not care about them. This is NOT achristian country. NEVER was, never will be.
@mutleybird ok I hear you
@@mutleybird what I don't like is them saying a woman must meet an exception to get one. That makes no sense. Rape and insist are obvious. There are other reasons not so obvious. Get rid of the exceptions and let frown woman choose.
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Why was Alyssa trying to intervene in the conversation whoopi and the Congresswoman were having as if the lady can’t answer the question that she knew she was going to be asked! My thought is Alyssa didn’t want her to put her foot in her mouth which she eventually did! There’s no way the lady from South Carolina is for total women’s rights!
Because Alyssa was challenging Whoopi’s word “belief”. This issue isn’t ONLY about religious belief, which Whoopi forgets. It’s also about ethics. Many people who oppose various points regarding abortion are not religious in any sense, but they have ethical views. We try to make this a religious argument, but there is much more to it than that.
@@Uhg-hk8ss first of all, lawmakers made this a religious argument! They tied ethics into it but we all know what this is!
@@Uhg-hk8ss listening to Whoopi's actual argument how she uses the word belief is not set towards religious beliefs. A belief is an acceptance that a statement is true or something exists. Even to the fact that someone has confidence in that train of thought that can cover ethics. The ethics of someone is not monolith. But Republicans use the dog whistle of religious beliefs based on the arguments they are facing at the time.
@@MrCharvisp18 I respectfully disagree. For many, you are right, there is a religious reason. However, for many others, it is a matter of ethics. For many, it has always been a matter of religion. However, for many others, it has always been a matter of ethics. It would be just as wrong to say it’s all about religion as it would be to say it’s all about ethics. All I’m saying is that there are many people out there who oppose abortion who are not religious. Their argument is an ethical argument. There are those in government who have made it a religious issue, but there are also those in government who oppose abortion, who do not stand on a religious argument, rather it is a situation of ethics for them.
My guess is that you and I agree that it has become a religious stronghold and justification to excess. My only point is that we need to acknowledge and have intellectual conversations with others, who do not base their views on religion.
I thought Alyssa did ok. The main thing is, you want the guest to come back. If the pro-choice members tear into her... I mean, this lady voted in favor of shutting down the government... it could have gotten nasty.
The crazy part when they keep saying people abort at 9 months. Tell me when does that happen when it’s an abortion and not labor that the baby didn’t survive or it was too dangerous for the mother to live if she gave birth. I’ve never heard of a women who at 9 months or even 8, decided to have an abortion.
Thank you Whoppi!
I think it’s funny the Waffle House job set her up for success at the Citadel 😆
You tell 'em, Whoopi!
I personally don't care who has a belief in what. what I do care about an does affect my life like everyone else's, is that using only one belief as a basis to craft, design, pass or overturn any law invalidates the belief of anyone else who does not share the same belief structure as those crafting, designing, passing or overturning laws. to my own opinion, any person swearing into public office should be swearing in on the constitution. not on a book of religious indoctrination. the Constuition decides the laws of our nation, not a religious book.
Good on Whoopi for not letting the liar get away with it.
Whoopi💕🔥🔥🔥💐
you tell her Whoopi!!!
It's none of Mace's business what ANY woman decides to do with her own body. Nobody is forcing women to have an abortion.....IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT........DON'T HAVE ONE.
There is NOTHING pro-life about abortion. As a taxpayer, I do not want to pay for abortions at any stage.
Actually, you CAN have it both ways, Senator. Just because the Govt pays for a process doesn't mean the govt can have an opinion. Quit making excuses. There was no reason to go after Roe v Wade. There is no reason to have a Federal Law. Continue to let women make their own choices. It's great to have choices and options. Not every choice or option will suit your particular needs but it may serve the next woman very well. I can not fathom why anyone thinks it's okay to regulate what a woman does with her body. I also do not understand why Republicans are absorbed by this subject that was settled years ago.
She was making a strawman argument there. The Hyde Amendment already prohibits taxpayer dollars from funding abortions.
@annamg338 - I guess I’d say that we all have to regulate what we do in one way or another. As the woman at what point are you no longer allowed to impede on the fetus’s(baby’s) life? What if the baby is born but as the mom, you just need to get some good sleep to take care of your body, and the baby dies of neglect. Obviously an outrageous example but I’m trying to expand your logic and find where it stops being true. If you would agree that there is a point that the logic stops being true, why is that?
I would say something similar, I can’t fathom why someone thinks it’s okay to kill an innocent life.
I’ll take that to the logical extreme, life begins at conception. If the the two extremes are: life begins at conception or aborting is fine at anytime anyone wants to up until birth (first breath, ability to be self-sustaining). Conception makes more logical sense to me than defending why it’s okay to kill a person that could live outside of the womb.
@@Andy-roo148 What you're doing is simply engaging in nonsensical hypotheticals that don't really happen in real life. It's like asking "what if someone burned their house down the week before their 30-year mortgage is paid off? What laws do we need to prevent that?" No one's advocating for electively killing a baby post-birth. If they really don't want a crying baby, they would just leave it at a hospital, police or fire station. If some woman does kill it or allow it suffer from neglect, child protective services intervenes.
@Andy-roo148 I do agree there is a point when it can't be done
My point is why all the exceptions? Why must the situation fall into an exception? Just allow the procedure. No woman should have to make up an excuse to fit into an exception to get the procedure.
@@annamg338 what exceptions are you referring to?
I guess where I fall logically is that there is a life inside that woman and at what point is that recognized? If that is a life, does that life deserve to be legally (morally and ethically) protected? To me, it seems like the more vulnerable the crime the more protections need to be in place. That’s why child protective services is a thing and elder abuse is in its own category.
I need help filling in the rest of your argument or telling me where I’m not understanding it correctly.
You: There should be a right for abortion.
Me: why?
You: because it should be the woman’s choice what to do with her body.
Me: Why doesn’t it seem like there is any consideration for who (you might say what) that procedure is eliminating?
Loved how she talked about her trauma to get those sympathetic points then Immediately pivoted to say she would support Trump, a Sexual Assault Predator. 😏 Hypocrite much 🤨
You mean like how Bidey claimed he'd cure cancer and restore the US to it's 'pre-Trump' days (whatever that meant) then pivoted to destroy America? 😂
Sorry but she reminds of Nikki Haley too to wishy washy🤔
THANK YOU WHOOPI!
Why y’all ain’t say this about the vax
Love it!!!
Taken from the CDC website: "Nearly all abortions in 2020 took place early in gestation: 93.1% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (5.8%) were performed at 14-20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (0.9%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation." Whoopie is correct. No one is getting an abortion at 8 months pregnant. Almost all of them are early on. The government wants to force women to have a baby, but then limits funding to welfare and free healthcare for the child that was born. They don't care if the woman is poor and cannot take care of the child. Many of these babies will end up in the foster care system, which is full of abuse.
Some studies point to Roe v. Wade resulting in lower number of unwanted children and lower number of children born to parents who cannot afford them resulting in lowered levels of serious crime.
Why not listen to the woman you’ve invited on the show? Whoopi pipe down! Babies deserve to have a life.
Republicans keep lying about abortion all the way up to nine months and I'm sick of that.
why nobody fact checking . You guys always talking about how other stations not fact checking and you are doing the same thing
I hate it when the guests are so smart.
you must have watched a different show.
@@annamg338Well, you must have watched a different show too Because the host on the view are definitely not smart they are stupid.
Get her Whoopi!!!