Is Windows the LEAST Secure Operating System?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
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Thio Joe: One good virus can create serious issues.
COVID-19: Likes the video.
»Me too«, says WannaCry, encrypts COVID-19 and holds the bat to ransom. 😂
Ha ha I am dying call the ambulance please
@@musikuss same
Except that one isn’t real, and it never was…
I really cannot stop laughing... 😂😂
Well, if it's insecure, let's not insult it any further, eh?
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Big brain move: Windows is the safest operating system if you aren't connected to the internet
True, but at the same time, what if you drop it?
What about that OS that destroys itself when something is plugged in?
All OSes are safe if they NEVER have anything external put on them ... external programs specifically is what I mean ... and of course NO internet connection ... as long as whatever it is is certified virus free ... there's NO WAY it could get infected and have trouble OS issues
@@angaeverett515 Glass is glass and glass breaks.
@@darinb.3273 You're right, but mostly all the swf files are by default classified as dangerous to the OS. Most of the executables and installation wizards as well. You can't do much without internet connection except for gaming offline.
"Linux is the most secure"
Mumbles in BSD
Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!
@@m1lkweed Of course it runs NetBSD
TheNeutralModder I use BSD.
And real programmers make their own games.
/s
@TheNeutralModder FreeBSD and the other few aren't made for ga(gay)mes but for server infrastructure and
home use even, that is if you desire a fast stable Unix system with minimal bloat that will not give up on you. And it does have
enough software which is actually useful unlike games. I've used FreeBSD in the past and it's amazing and easy to understand unlike the
garbage that makes Linux a mess, See SystemD and Pulseaudio. People DO use BSD though there isn't many people that talk about it online, check out, iBSD.
Congrats, you fell for the bait by the way.
TheNeutralModder the "/s" indicates sarcasm, I was joking about "real programmers."
As Muta (SomeOrdinaryGamers) says:
"The best antivirus is your brain"
Best advice you can give to someone about anti-viruses
Ikr, you don't even need one. Just use your brain and you should be good.
@@georgek4416 I have been using Microsoft Defender and I'm perfectly fine. I use an adblocker (only not on RUclips) and I don't click on shady links. It's simple. Of course I run Malwarebytes (once a month) to check if everything's alright. Using this method, I haven't gotten a virus in years.
@@kaloyan.doychinov Yep. I haven't encountered a virus since the late 80s. (and that was while still using MS-DOS.) I never got one on Windows. and I've used every consumer version since Windows 3.0. If you take reasonable precautions, You can avoid them.
@@kaloyan.doychinov You use malware bytes whoms installer is a virus
Thio
“I’m not going to add ‘mama’ to the end of the Joe part of my name, because it’s sorta a waste of time,”
Joe.
GNU/Linux is more secure because of the way package managment and privilege separation works. There are also reasons like modularity of system but the biggest reason is that most of GNU/Linux software is free (as in freedom). The reason why Windows is so insecure might be the amount of legacy code it has, but I'm not sure.
No legacy Windows would bei pretty safe.... Ofice dosent Need powershell.
Fun Fact: The vast majority of security flaws from previous versions of Windows are present in Windows 10 because that OS is built on top of the previous version. This is why Flaws in Windows 10 are often found in previous versions.
Shows "Average Linux User" picture of some nerd. Turns out he's running Microsoft DOS/Terminal. Ok.
It's intentional part of the joke. You must be really old to notice that. Probably as old as me ;)
Dude, nobody cares, also woooosh
@@elifarmer3815 Thanks for the gold kind stranger.
Maybe you should sudo rm -rf ThioJoe/ to show 'em who's boss
3:23 a shi- crap ton of devices
Everyone knows MS-DOS is the most secure operating system!
yes then you can litteraly delete C drive in two steps
Dac DT From random anime
no, the most secure operating system is the BIOS!
funny : D
Vista It's still an OS
Nice job, Joe. People taking personal responsibility (like keeping the OS updated) is a real difference-maker. I met a dba last year who was running Windows 7. When I told him he was running a risk, he just sloughed it off as of no concern to him. My jaw dropped.
Before watching: I don’t think it’s the least secure OS, but the most targeted because most people use it.
After Watching: Yay! Something about MacOS, I’ve seen people take a long time to get a program installed. I think MacOS’s noob and security friendliness helps it stay a bit more secure. Some people just won’t install something because they keep getting told no. And for Linux, I think most of its security is not because of tech savvy users, but because of its repos. You get a lot of things from a trusted source. Of course it can probably be compromised, but I still think getting apps from these repos is both safer and easier than going online and looking for what you need.
Heartsalot it’s also based on DOS, which makes it even less secure...
In most ways Unix (macOS and Linux is based off of it) is better than DOS, and while Windows has improved in many ways over DOS and in some ways are better than Unix and Unix-like operating systems, they still have not been good at security at all...
Also when someone in your family comes with a game the copied from a friend in a flashdrive, chances are they will not unwillingly infect a Linux machine by double clicking a .exe file.
@@prestonferry windows is using NT now.
@@supercellex4D still based on DOS… There aren’t many changes…
@@prestonferry NT is a totally different kernel mode then DOS
Thio
My hair at this point has gotten so long my head is starting to feel too heavy
Joe
Perfect
My girlfriend and I just shaved our heads, quick simple and easy
top-heavy*
Like the hair. ☺️
Another fantastic video.
I agree
The number of people on Windows 7 will never reach zero for as long as it exists.
theres people still using windows 95/98... thats true for any OS
Those very old OSs like win 95 lack a lot o modern features, so it will probably be used only for nostalgia or old computers in hospitals or industry, like floppy disks are still around. For the average user, there is not a giant difference between win7 and win 10
I'm saying this because I used win 7 until January
you hair look good, ngl.
3:09 Can we get an F in the chat for those 0.45% of people still on Vista?
F
Im now upgrading from Windows 10 to Linux Ubuntu.
Don't if you are a gamer
@@brian_jake you can game on linux change my mind
@@damiennunya333 DirectX is a windows thing
@@sethadkins546 DXVK exists
IOT is probably the biggest growth area for malware and viruses. Some day you might do a video on what kinds of exploits might be done with them as a warning to people buying them.
hahah Thio you were about to say "A shit load"
Yes. Windows is more insecure even if Linux becomes the most popular os.
Edit: it's architecture is more insecure than Linux because it has only two levels.
So windows stuff has access to either nothing or everything. Linux has more granular control over apps. So apps can for example have storage permission, But not network access.
I have totally no idea on how Macs work.
I want to know how this works.
Talking about macOS security, let us not forget about that one time root user password on macOS High Sierra is set to empty.
So 10 million people apparently still use Windows XP? Me gusta
Great video..please bring another
With every new version of Windows released since XP, they've added more security features
A lot of Windows security issues are often 'self inflicted' by the users. An example is running with an Administrator account all the time. Not only does an admin account let you run pretty much anything (even with a warning, a quick click and it will execute) but you can easily delete/move system files by mistake. It's much better to set your day-to-day user as "User" by removing the Administrator group from group membership. If you now try to execute a file requiring Admin privileges it will pop up a window asking for an Admin password (you can also right click the program and select 'Run as Administrator'). A little but of a pain I know but it can save something bad happening.
Also, if you run background programs that need a higher level of privilege (such as backup software) , think about creating a special user with higher privileges and a REALLY long and complicated password. Dont use Administrator as if you ever change the password the service will fail (usually hours later).
I think Windows is the only operating system with a registry
I mean, the GNOME desktop environment has dconf-editor, which I believe is quite similar to a registry.
@karel ss Configs are Linux's registry, but they are stored in plain text (which makes no difference).
That bow and arrow stock photo... Bwwawhwhahahaha!!!! Best stock-photo-fail I've seen in a long time! (Joe, great video BTW!)
If only virus writers were as inept as the guy holding the bow and arrow at 2:34 . Hint: the bow is upside down. That was more than a hint; that's the main thing wrong with it. Try hitting a target at any kind of distance at all with a grip like that! Actually, there are probably a lot of "wanna-be" virus writers who are that inept, but there are enough skilled ones out there to make life difficult for the rest of us.
But wouldn't you target Linux? That's what data servers use.
yeah but it usually isn't Linux that has the security flaw, it is usually due to a flaw in the software that the linux system is running. for example finding a vulnerability in Apache Web Server to get access to the files stored on that server
@HTB_For_Life not if someone is running an older version or an 0 day exploit is released
Because data servers have like 1000000 security measures.
Bernardo Negri actually linux isnt the problem its the software being exploited to gain sudo or root privileges
@@JoeyLindsay True.
Remember that those stats are from USERS and all of the other machines. Almost ever server, iot, and other machines use Linux. On Mac OS you navigate into the privacy menu in settings which is annoying but can be fixed with the terminal. Mac os and Linux require a root password when launching potentially harmful software where Windows only needs a Yes or a No. I don't think that there's an option for enabling password protection for the UAC
I believe you can with ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin in the Registry.
The biggest risk of an operating system is the user him/her*self.
A clever and educated Windows user is more likely to get not infected than a Mac user who clicks on everything without thinking.
No hate on Apple or Windows users intended.
cool video tech talk joe
Only thing I could not agree is Linux is not set it and forget it .
Recent Linux distributions are really easy to setup and maintain . I suggest you to try one to experience it . Anyway good video .
By the way I use Arch
Yes people are waaaaay out of date on this view. From a standing start someone can have linux "installed" and be using it in under 1 hour. The quotes on "installed" is because with systems like Puppy Linux you just need to boot from external media and you are off and running.
Mine was a completely different story. To install Linux, it took about 2 days and some things still won't work.
Did the poll and it went straight to 100%
Thank You Thio
I know people who still use windows 2000 😏
After years of using Linux on the desktop I now use chromeOS , which allows me to also install and run (at native speed) Linux software - considering the basis/foundation of chromeOS is Linux, this is no mystery.
While most chromeOS users stick with browser based applications or Android apps that run natively on chromeOS, the option to also use Linux apps give it a broader appeal. These apps run within the (user) Linux container and are even more isolated from the other running apps (except for defined interfaces for things like copy and paste).
The most important part of chromeOS is the patch management which constantly keeps Chromebooks updated, without the users ability to block updates (unless they never reboot or logoff).
The other benefit of chromeOS is the baked in 2FA for accounts used on the Chromebook as well as U2F/Fido (yes, windows is finally getting there) .
It is a poor example to state that IoT implies insecurity with Linux. Most IoT devices are cheap crap without properly implemented Linux security (weak local admin account, hardcoded passwords, duplicated/static security keys, backdoors, weak ciphers or use of sslv3) but most importantly, once deployed, they don't get patched!
Also, you cannot lump all Linux into the same bucket of security/insecurity , because they are all customized by the distributor. unless you consider Linux to be the kernel , and then assess vulnerabilities based on versions of the kernel.
That said, I agree with the final assessment, user awareness/education is important to maintaining the security of any system.
Personally, I gave my wife, kids and mom Chromebooks and configured (non-SMS) MFA for their Google accounts. This has addressed almost all user and security issues that they would have.
(Yeah, I know this was long-winded but wanted to preempt the "common statement that ChromeOS is not a real OS"crap).
It can be said that it's secure without it being private. Using ChromeOS literally makes your entire computer into spyware.
@@uiopuiop3472 why do you say that? Is there no telemetry sent to Microsoft when you use windows 10 or Microsoft office?
With most apps on the cloud, what privacy do you think you have (or do you work offline/disconnected these days)?
If you like video conferencing, well, how do you feel about Zoom and it's privacy?....this list goes on.
If you want privacy from the OS or OS vendor, use Linux and Tor browser...and even then, good luck.
@@KurtBP75 Google
Also, in linux all the apps you download is from a trusted package manager, so there are almost no risk
... or in many cases, you can check the source code to make sure.
that is if you don't add more repos and use the terminal to get the packages
@@damiennunya333
In Puppy Linux you have repos to select from in the GUI. The obtaining of packages is always done with the GUI.
Most software I installed on Linux came from a download link.
@@bernardonegri5416 then your not using your distros package manager properly
It's the least secure if you can't control the mouse pointer properly and click on *Congrats you won 1 million* ads
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Wait..... Are you the one who makes 'em? You're name.....
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Good to see him changing his video topics
I have used about 7 phones, 5 laptops and 1 Desktop PC extensively. I've run Android from v2.2 to 10, iOS 5 to iOS 13, Windows 98 to Windows 10 and MacOS Catalina, Mojave and High Sierra.
Not once have I run into a virus. I have never used a single Anti-Virus software.
User definitely matters.
How would you know if you had a virus if you never use an anti virus software? Just because you don't see anything wrong, doesn't mean that there isn't anything wrong. Antiviruses scan for viruses and without one you cant scan for viruses.
@@GamerWelfare but windows defender took drugs seriously
It is simply due to the scale of windows usage. That is why most malware is designed to exploit vulnerabilities in windows and not mac os or linux distros.
Imagine your os being so insecure you need a dedicated antivirus program
This comment was brought to you by the GNU/Linux gang
Hey man some operating systems are just more sensitive ok, we can't all be rough and rugged like knoppix OKAY?
Honestly, just be careful when on the internet. Don't go to a torrent that says "FREE PHOTOSHOP". That's probably a virus
@@milanpetrovic4952 Gentoo GNU/Linux does not have this problem
@@hugorc343 ok I'll have a look into it, that's a Muta line, your brain is the best anti virus
Okay real talk is there a decent antivirus for linux to check for exe files (not ClamAV which freaks out with every exe file that looks in its general direction)? I do use WINE to game on linux, so it would be beneficial to scan once in a while to check for, say, any files surreptitiously downloaded from a drive-by attack.
A fair review on security of all major OS's. He really nailed it over... 👏👏👏
No he did not
Another thing that makes linux more secure is, every linux distro has their own software repository, some graphical, some not. If a virus makes it into those repositories, it will likely be weeded out.
Windows Defender Logic:
1. Block my favorite game after few months using it daily. How to release? Change folder name.
2. Block my application I was working on and testing daily starting and stopping it countless of times, so it blocked entirely internet access to it. How to release? Change its folder name.
Both applications sit in my Programs Files 86 folder (dont worry, its user settings are stored elsewhere).
Is anyone experiencing the issue where Windows Defender threat service is stopped? I've tried many fixes from online and none of them work. I also have another issue where my windows update page on settings just never works anymore. Its stuck saying up to date with updates even though it shows last checked was 3/29/20 and when i click on advanced settings to bring my postpone date to 0 it just freezes.
At 3:23 he almost said a "shit load" 😂😂😂
I think you hit the target. Spot on.
I use both Windows and Linux (Ubuntu 20.04 lts) on my desktop and acer nitro 7 laptop and so far never experienced any virus attacks or not that I noticed anything funky running in the background too. I do regularly update Linux and windows to minimize the risks and try to stay out of pesky sites as much as possible.
Joe: “you really have to dig into the settings”
Me: *right click, open*
Gatekeeper: “I’ll see you later buddy!”
Hey "Thio My Hair At This Point Has Gotten So Long My Head Is Starting To Feel Top-Heavy Joe"
*Is it really necessary to keep my graphics card drivers upto date?*
Yes it is definitely insecure. I always have inevitable problems with Windows PCs and I really try my best to use them carefully, I had to reinstall Windows just recently because I had services and registries randomly disappearing and Windows defender had just disappeared in the settings app. I wish we could have an operating system as secure as MacOS but with the software support and options that Windows has.
if Linux users can get linux to 10% market share, that would probably happen.
@@JoeyLindsayif arch users stop gatekeeping that is
Looking good, Thio.
ThioJoe: "they created UAC"
Me: *turns up Doom Eternal music to 11*
doom guy: *shotgun clicks*
Watching from my windows 7 not even ready to upgrade,Windows 10 update deleted user files,again.
@RobloxerMartin sounds like a much better idea,i just haven't seen the stability ms boasts of in windows 10 it's really annoying
How is non-existent software deleting your files?
I use Linux as my daily driver
at least ur not bragging about it
Same I use Ubuntu 20.04 so far so good however I was using Manjaro with the gnome desktop before I swapped.
It was last year when windows did the fixes to the operating system that went back to to Windows 3.1. That means that Windows the same OS as 3.x!
I think some of it is written in Microsoft Basic.
Windows defender found a threat while watching this video I'm not even kidding
Good then you are safe now
joe i was able to get a haircut you will get one soon lo,l joe i want to thank you so much for your ccleaner app you mentioned on your RUclips it has helped my laptop and my lenovo too it is my favorite youtube you gave thanks again joe stay safe :)
You need separate security with privacy. Yes, Win10 is secure however, it's privacy practices leave much to be desired.
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Good job!
i remember when he uploaded “How to get free steam games!” and “how to get a vive vr headset for free!”
2:00 UAC reminds me of policy kit in Linux. You've always had to run some stuff as root and that generally isn't very safe, and Polkit allows only a few root privileges to be granted to a specific process. And with the Wayland protocol killing root GUI apps, pkexec is the only option leftover.
The thing with macOS and iOS is that as a hacker it's easy to know the exact software and hardware specs of Apples devices, because the don't make that many different models. Compare that with other operating system where you have all kinds of system configurations.
It depends the user 90% of the time.
WTF I thought it was 85% windows 10% mac and 2% linux then others
I thought so to
"is still a sh- crap-ton of devices"
regular uploads PLEASE it will make more views
Viruses:
0,1% Windows
0,1% MacOS
0,1% Linux
99,7% Exploiting the trust of the user.
2:34 their holding the bow upside down.
just went and got Haircut for the 1st time in 3 months on Monday..
My school computers recently finally updated to windows 10.
has anyone noticed the bow is being held upside down
5:02 all you have to do is right click the program and then click open
Technically you can get double the amount of RAM and/or storage and just do everything on a VM. In the end it doesn’t make a difference because of the behavioral attacks mentioned and talked about in the video.
Good topic and comparison. Suggest next : is Windows the LEAST Private Operating System?
Would really love to send this video to people who blindly say " Duhh WiNdOwS sEcUrItY iS sHiT, uSe A mAc" but if they're already that ignorant I don't think they would sit through a 10+ min video explaining the facts
Nobody:
thio Joe:Is windows the least secure os?
He isn't the only one and this comment format sucks
@@markusTegelane exactly, this normie format needs to die
Love your hair Joe.
Thio Joe,
I really hope you can help me with this...
Each and every time I go to watch something on my tv (Sony Bravia), right in the middle of watching a movie or video, etc, I get this box that comes up on my screen, which says, "GOOGLE: VERIFY IT'S YOU" click NEXT. When I click NEXT, sometimes it goes away instantly and other times it may take 30 to 45 seconds to disappear. Then sometimes it reappears every 15 or 20 or so minutes through out the entire movie. This so aggravating 😡 and this just started within the last two months!! PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME!!
ngl your hair be looking good doe 😳😳
Hey @ThioJoe Q1 2019 NSA exploit databse leak was the cause of the high attackrate on Windows itself.
lmao my hair is long af at this point too, i was just thinking 5 mins ago to go get it trimmed.
actually mashines that use xp are ATMs billboards etc.
I accept the fact windows 10 is a pretty good os. Everyone else is just too afraid to have their own opinion so whenever anyone else says it sucks they go with it. It's a solid os. A few flaws yes and not as good as xp or 7 but it's a good os.
I think it's better now than what it was 5 years ago upon release. I still have Windows 7 64-bit on a second boot just in case some old piece of software doesn't bode well with Win 10.
If you disable those annoying tiles on the start menu and ignore the Windows App Store (just think it doesn't exist), it's a very decent OS. Win 7 still has a special place in my heart though.
@@elimalinsky7069 yeah. I just think it gets alot of unneeded hate. I agree with you 100 percent though.
I’m still running Windows 7 dualbooted with XP x64
Also that tiny bit of “other” includes my Windows 98 machine
I need to ask you a question about speeding up my internet, can you help me I did what you said but still didn't do anything.
It's a joke video, It was april fool. 😥😥
You need to wind the tape in the right direction.
The only IoT device I have is my monitor (which is actually a TV), but I keep it disconnected from the network. If there had been a variant of it available without the SmartTV features, I would have bought that.
What you didn't really cover is the LIKELIHOOD of getting some malware if the system is properly set up. I have used XP for over 20 years? and have only had two attacks. But I don't click on links or download unknown software without taking precautions. Another thing, USING the computer is important! There is 100 times more software available at drastically lower price for windows than for these other systems. I couldn't believe what my friend was paying for software for his Mac! OUCH!
What about Linux?
please make a vedio on archeve header is corrupt error code 14
Memory banks unloading , bytes break into bits , unit 1 is in trouble and it's scared out of its wits
Guess that song ........
video summary:
1. more people use it = more people make viruses for it
2. more smart people on a platform = less attack on that platform
3. people are dumb sometimes
I've been exclusively using Windows Defender as my anti virus software for years now and have been happy with it so far. I know when I am downloading shady stuff and it''s caught the malware right away if it is present. I don't think I've had an actual virus in years but I also do a fresh OS install once every year or so.
Another one: backwards compatibility is probably what made Windows what it was, but more compatibility layers also means more points of failure. I'm not sure how much of a role that plays compared to the market share and stuff, but compatibility vs security is a bit of a pick-your-poison.
The main problem is that they never got the permissions issue fixed. MSDOS considered the right to read and the right to execute as the same. Because MSDOS was single user they didn't have the different rights for different people. If you run DOSEMU on Linux or wine on Linux, they fix the issue by confining the compatibility to it own subdirectory and not letting it access the full machine. Microsoft could have done this but elected not to. This is where most of the problem springs from.
@@kensmith5694 So that's where that oddity stems from. Good to know!
The main security feature in macOS and Linux is this this: they will not run an .EXE file.
Unless you install wine.
Thio could you pls help me out with how to install new O.S on acer aspire A114-31-C4HH
my heart brokes when i see u get little views