Its really unfortunate how spot on Cedric is. And its all the more depressing how much worse popular music has become in the last decade or so. Where are the pioneers?
Man, he really hit the nail on the head. I'm thankful I had a friend in high school who knew a shitload of good underground music and basically showed me all the bands that led me to my current music taste.
the mars volta are trying to now release their material on independent labels (their next album will be independent apart from USA where they have contract restrictions with Universal) I don't think they have ended up in a bad way or would have thought bad of themselves they are playing no compromise music that is clever and doesnt spoon feed anyone. Bands can still be major label and maintain counter-culture values (Rage Against the Machine)
Led Zeppelin: that is the band that got a good label, and did REAL underground. . . the 70s, i think, it was the last decade where musicians had the freedom to do whatever they wanted. if it wasnt for Van Halen's manager, Eruption wouldnt be at our hearing pleasure :)
Sliced Bread is really the best thing. Imagine having to slice bread before you make a sandwich. I don't think I could live in a world that way. Anyway, I'm seeing these guys tomorrow in Dallas and I am SO fucking excited
There is more choice today as to what to listen to because bands are advertising on the internet. But the problem with that is the market gets over saturated with bands and that makes people apathetic to liking them or wanting to buy their record as opposed to just stealing it.
Wow, i was deciding whether to completely go off of social media or not, and I think this provides me information by which to navigate it. Though it's a corrupt system, it still controls the airwaves, so it's important to put the more intelligent content out there possible.
Very true, but as I like to say "better to conform to something that is good and that you like rather than conform to something bad for the sake of being cool" Personally I think Cedric makes a very good point in this video.
that is so weird!!! the fact i digged for ATDI because i first listen to sparta a couple of hours ago, this song called cut the ribbon and i looked up the lyrics, and in the comment section it talked about mars volta. Thought they were fucking great. Then i found out that they were together. FUCKING AWESOME! dude in hours i found out about a great fucking band that kicks ass, thanks to the new way of digging for music. RUclips
This video wasn't made while Cedric was in The Mars Volta. This was made while he was in, At the Drive In, I highly recommend you go download everyone of their songs, you won't be dissappointed. In my own opinion, I like Cedric and Omar's old band, At the Drive In so much more than The Mars Volta.
My god, in my honest opinion, ATDI was one of the most down to earth and realistic bands to come around for quite some time. I do listen to a lot of punk, but my favorite punk band by far is Lagwagon, simply because of their realistic views, not political or movement based.
Punk rock had a hardcore working class base. The Minutemen, Minor Threat, Black Flag, those guys all had 9-5's. After work they weren't their job though.
the mars volta, at the drive-in, easily one of many fav. bands i have, but come on, no one who represents complete freedom in music during his time, WTF, NEUROSIS
I know it's an At The Drive-In song, but I don't know which one. My guess is that it'll probably be One-Armed Scissor, cause that seems to be the most well known of their songs.
the sam way when he made this video.... they made this when they were in the mars volta.. i dont think it would change in the matter of a few years. the radio rock is still the same.
I love political music and bands such as Midnight Oil and At The Drive-In, amongst many others. Cedric Bixler Zavala is obviously a smart man, as many have already said, and he is putting his point of view forward, a point of view that some minorities may have or those who are too afraid to speak out.
I generally agree with everything this guy says but I'm from the Midwest surrounded by great cities and whenever somebody says Middle America they immediately are referring to the Midwest. Let's not forget one of the greatest rock and roll cities in the world is in the Midwest.
Everything you just said is exactly how I view Cedric and Omar. Technical skill, innovation and integrity, imo, sums up TMV. And, the various members of the band are into many other artistic avenues. Omar draws and paints. Cedric plays many instruments and quite a few members of the band skateboard. Honestly, I don't care about music classifications, but I just thought the point you were trying to make is a bit backwards.
people think too much about the music they listen to. my rule to any music, or clothes, or style choices are this: if i like it, i buy it. shove anything else out of your mind. thats all it should be about.
I've heard that from a lot of people and I might go check them out. I've heard one or two ATDI songs and I think you're probably right, but I'd have to hear more before I form an opinion.
@divinegrinder that show was at a music festival most people were probably there to see limp bizkit which some girl was killed when limp bizkit was playing there set! at the drive in at that time people that listen to them were people that wern't mainstream music listeners... most people there probably didn't even know who at the drive in was! most bands woundn't yell at people watching them because they fame and money!
@mikeymoxon i think you're right... When a person (like me) only listens to rock oriented stuff they dont see the whole spectrum of music, which does include good computer made music.
No substance? "A beard half eaten, smile crawling with legs"? What the fuck substance is behind that message exactly? Someone with a 1000 buck a week pot habit calling other people in bands stupid. As far as addressing selling out, I'm not sure if he needed to really worry about it, considering his band couldn't even stay together long enough to technically sell out, mainly because of him. Just sounds like a lot of pretentious spew from a highly confused individual to me. I know though, he's a total genius. Don't question it, he's too obviously punk rock to be questioned
Corporate america, the death of creativity and the control of our lives are pretty much big reasons to not sell-out, times are a tad differente nowadays
I know but sometimes I look around and that is what I see from some people. I watched it again and I agree with what you are saying. The industry need to look at what people say on the web about bands. The underground cannot afford to be ignored too much longer or they might just go broke. I think that the real people who go broke are the listeners who never get to hear really different bands though. But that's just my opinion.
@ColoredPig i kinda agree with u.. but then again i like techno.. then again i like dubstep.. i like industrial black metal.. ect ect.. .all with "computer type sounds" Except i dont watch tv.. and i dont get my music from the tv either..i dont even have cable.. lol only cable internet
@tommiesmallz well henry rollins and ian mcay were definately ahead of their time. but, i'm glad it's being said again. maybe not by the people you agree should say it. but, it is being said.
@44eelz im a 17 year old, free-thinking, television hating, individual. and 98 percent of your description fits my high school. and im very good at rebelling.
@LmaoLaneyLee true, at least around this time there was the garage rock revival which was picking up some promising speed, but sadly that was dispelled by a new wave of commercialist masturbation. its like we're living in the 80's again, minus some of the cool new wave bands it was nothing but pop. i dont agree that that music should be hated on, but the fact that it is all sold based on image, and it all follows the same shallow croud pleasing formula, makes me desperately want a change to come
While TMV might technically fit into the prog genre, I don't feel right giving them the same title as bands like Porcupine Tree. To me, prog means more than just being slightly different. It's characterized by a high level of technical skill, innovation, and integrity. Prog is made by people who live, breathe, and devote their lives to all kinds of arts, not just music. It's not written by rockers. It's written by artists with a story to tell. I don't feel comfortable comparing TMV to that.
@smoky289 exactly, thats i how i feel. But everyones treating emo and sreamo like it is which i do not agree with. Fugazi is Punk, ADTI has lots of styles but all in all theyre just a great rock band. forget labels. good music is good music, mainstream trends never last.
never heard a man speak like this man before...
xD
that's weird. you should try to get smarter friends.
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Its really unfortunate how spot on Cedric is. And its all the more depressing how much worse popular music has become in the last decade or so. Where are the pioneers?
His music's been shit since ATDI broke up.
nope. His own songs are awesome. No one is 19 forever.
He's a fucking junkie who can't make music anymore.
CandaEH rude
candaEH - LOL
Cedric was in 2020 while everyone else was in 2000
Holy shit, it’s incredibly rare to be recommended a video this old. This vid came out when RUclips was pretty much in its infancy.
ced is brilliant man
wow, this interview was 10 years ago... And it still applies. Great message.
10 years later and it still applies.
10 days later it still applies.
@@wespenn6139 I was going to say. Wow.
21 years. Damn.
@@gerryfromthevoid8986 22 years now, applies more than ever. Hope everyone in this thread has been living good
Spoken with a original tongue that comes from his heart.
Man, he really hit the nail on the head. I'm thankful I had a friend in high school who knew a shitload of good underground music and basically showed me all the bands that led me to my current music taste.
What other bands like at the drive in do you like? any much later 2000 bands or late 90s bands like lifetime, far or thursday.
Your only take away from this was "some music is bad"?
bruh
@@someone7554 why are you trying to strawman an 11 year old comment please go outside
Smart guy. Smart fucking guy.
Dismemberment Plan! Fuck yea
20 years on, and this interview holds a lot of weight
the mars volta are trying to now release their material on independent labels (their next album will be independent apart from USA where they have contract restrictions with Universal) I don't think they have ended up in a bad way or would have thought bad of themselves they are playing no compromise music that is clever and doesnt spoon feed anyone. Bands can still be major label and maintain counter-culture values (Rage Against the Machine)
"When Omar and Cedric are speaking, you
shut the fuck up and listen"
exactly
I like how he said this while blasting nickelback in the background.
butthead: nickelback uhu uhu
hearing these guys talk really make me want to start a band
Led Zeppelin:
that is the band that got a good label,
and did REAL underground. . .
the 70s, i think, it was the last decade where musicians had the freedom to do whatever they wanted. if it wasnt for Van Halen's manager, Eruption wouldnt be at our hearing pleasure :)
cedric for president!
I miss the old days. (90’s and early 00’s specifically).
He was preaching the future here...
d plan was the shit, I'm excited he mentioned them
Cedric ALWAYS talks about TV lol!
Cedric talking about the Plan? Thank you, the universe, my life is complete.
Sliced Bread is really the best thing. Imagine having to slice bread before you make a sandwich. I don't think I could live in a world that way.
Anyway, I'm seeing these guys tomorrow in Dallas and I am SO fucking excited
blissfullydead89 It's a few years late, but, how was the show? ?
There is more choice today as to what to listen to because bands are advertising on the internet. But the problem with that is the market gets over saturated with bands and that makes people apathetic to liking them or wanting to buy their record as opposed to just stealing it.
DISMEMBERMENT PLAN!!! cedric likes the dismemberment play!
I want to have Cedric's babies.
Peak Ced!
I just love Mars Volta a little bit more than I did before.
Wow, i was deciding whether to completely go off of social media or not, and I think this provides me information by which to navigate it. Though it's a corrupt system, it still controls the airwaves, so it's important to put the more intelligent content out there possible.
Very true, but as I like to say "better to conform to something that is good and that you like rather than conform to something bad for the sake of being cool" Personally I think Cedric makes a very good point in this video.
that is so weird!!! the fact i digged for ATDI
because i first listen to sparta a couple of hours ago, this song called cut the ribbon and i looked up the lyrics, and in the comment section it talked about mars volta. Thought they were fucking great. Then i found out that they were together. FUCKING AWESOME!
dude in hours i found out about a great fucking band that kicks ass, thanks to the new way of digging for music. RUclips
this guy is rad, and the mars volta is a fucking tight band. i give this 5 stars
Does anyone know if there's a video of the full interview?
This video wasn't made while Cedric was in The Mars Volta. This was made while he was in, At the Drive In, I highly recommend you go download everyone of their songs, you won't be dissappointed. In my own opinion, I like Cedric and Omar's old band, At the Drive In so much more than The Mars Volta.
As much of a nut job he is....he knows his shit about the business.
I want marriage.
My god, in my honest opinion, ATDI was one of the most down to earth and realistic bands to come around for quite some time. I do listen to a lot of punk, but my favorite punk band by far is Lagwagon, simply because of their realistic views, not political or movement based.
Punk rock had a hardcore working class base. The Minutemen, Minor Threat, Black Flag, those guys all had 9-5's. After work they weren't their job though.
the mars volta, at the drive-in, easily one of many fav. bands i have,
but come on, no one who represents complete freedom in music during his time, WTF, NEUROSIS
I know it's an At The Drive-In song, but I don't know which one. My guess is that it'll probably be One-Armed Scissor, cause that seems to be the most well known of their songs.
Wow he is very intelligent and thoughtful
the sam way when he made this video.... they made this when they were in the mars volta.. i dont think it would change in the matter of a few years. the radio rock is still the same.
I love political music and bands such as Midnight Oil and At The Drive-In, amongst many others. Cedric Bixler Zavala is obviously a smart man, as many have already said, and he is putting his point of view forward, a point of view that some minorities may have or those who are too afraid to speak out.
selling out is not being comercial, its selling your attitude and your music
Pain of Salvation, The Mars Volta & Devin Townsend.
lol, i saw a clip where marsy came on stage with the lights off and said 'hello...we're mudvayne...' haha :]
Sliced bread was first sold in 1928 :)
They also toured with RHCP cause John Frusciante and Omar are good friends. John actually plays alot of the guitar on their more recent records
Fucking finally someone says it.
Music reaches more (young) people than politicians do.
Yooo the doc is out
Cedric's a cool guy. It's scary how everything he said was true, only now it's still true only worse to how it was then.
music industry doesnt bother me, I find great new artists daily, the people who listen to the radio and like pop dont bother me so I leave them.....
now years later..the dumber rock is on top..were has the creativity gone..thank god the 90's creative bands are coming back
I generally agree with everything this guy says but I'm from the Midwest surrounded by great cities and whenever somebody says Middle America they immediately are referring to the Midwest. Let's not forget one of the greatest rock and roll cities in the world is in the Midwest.
que chiquito que estaba cedric aca..era lindo ehhh
Everything you just said is exactly how I view Cedric and Omar. Technical skill, innovation and integrity, imo, sums up TMV. And, the various members of the band are into many other artistic avenues. Omar draws and paints. Cedric plays many instruments and quite a few members of the band skateboard.
Honestly, I don't care about music classifications, but I just thought the point you were trying to make is a bit backwards.
He said it perfectly... What he's saying fits into everything think underground or indie not just punk
at the drive in and volta music is on that.
people think too much about the music they listen to. my rule to any music, or clothes, or style choices are this: if i like it, i buy it. shove anything else out of your mind. thats all it should be about.
the mars volta is known insanely, but they've never sold out.
and i can say that by not even being a fan.
at 1:22. That is a cool tattoo.
I've heard that from a lot of people and I might go check them out. I've heard one or two ATDI songs and I think you're probably right, but I'd have to hear more before I form an opinion.
i think that's you that has nickelback blasting in the background.
there was no background music in this clip
@divinegrinder that show was at a music festival most people were probably there to see limp bizkit which some girl was killed when limp bizkit was playing there set! at the drive in at that time people that listen to them were people that wern't mainstream music listeners... most people there probably didn't even know who at the drive in was! most bands woundn't yell at people watching them because they fame and money!
wow.
that is exactly how i feel.
@mikeymoxon
i think you're right... When a person (like me) only listens to rock oriented stuff they dont see the whole spectrum of music, which does include good computer made music.
im from the same town he's from and i'm from a local band and it's still pretty true, we have dig like a mofo
you tell the cedric!
No substance? "A beard half eaten, smile crawling with legs"? What the fuck substance is behind that message exactly? Someone with a 1000 buck a week pot habit calling other people in bands stupid. As far as addressing selling out, I'm not sure if he needed to really worry about it, considering his band couldn't even stay together long enough to technically sell out, mainly because of him. Just sounds like a lot of pretentious spew from a highly confused individual to me. I know though, he's a total genius. Don't question it, he's too obviously punk rock to be questioned
I don’t trust anyone that spouts Pearl Jam as a band to listen to
Thank you for demonstrating perfectly my point.
Corporate america, the death of creativity and the control of our lives are pretty much big reasons to not sell-out, times are a tad differente nowadays
I know but sometimes I look around and that is what I see from some people. I watched it again and I agree with what you are saying. The industry need to look at what people say on the web about bands. The underground cannot afford to be ignored too much longer or they might just go broke. I think that the real people who go broke are the listeners who never get to hear really different bands though. But that's just my opinion.
i liked at the drive in but the mars volta are the best thing to ever happen to music.
WOW...just WOW.....fucking great answer. genius.
He's well spoken
@ColoredPig i kinda agree with u.. but then again i like techno.. then again i like dubstep.. i like industrial black metal.. ect ect.. .all with "computer type sounds" Except i dont watch tv.. and i dont get my music from the tv either..i dont even have cable.. lol only cable internet
"let their freak flag fly"
john frusciante has said this too
I live by that everyday. Be who you are.
god damn i love cedric.
I really like his view on things its quite true.
This was from later with Jools holland
How is this 17 years old 😭
A-fucking-MEN
lo peor de todo es que yo los conocí por mtv...jajaja
Ever We Fall. That's all you need to know.
Orignally jimi Hendrix on "if 6 was 9" -67 I think.
"best thing since sliced bread"
because the dummy read the title and thought that the TMV was selling out. lol. TMV! best band ever!!!
@tommiesmallz i understand. that's why i said you may not think m.v. music is revolutionary, but what he's talking about is. do you understand me now?
when he refers to dumb rock..i wonder who hes regarding it too?
@tommiesmallz well henry rollins and ian mcay were definately ahead of their time. but, i'm glad it's being said again. maybe not by the people you agree should say it. but, it is being said.
@44eelz im a 17 year old, free-thinking, television hating, individual. and 98 percent of your description fits my high school. and im very good at rebelling.
@LmaoLaneyLee true, at least around this time there was the garage rock revival which was picking up some promising speed, but sadly that was dispelled by a new wave of commercialist masturbation. its like we're living in the 80's again, minus some of the cool new wave bands it was nothing but pop. i dont agree that that music should be hated on, but the fact that it is all sold based on image, and it all follows the same shallow croud pleasing formula, makes me desperately want a change to come
Did not know that blonde redhead was around this long ago.
While TMV might technically fit into the prog genre, I don't feel right giving them the same title as bands like Porcupine Tree. To me, prog means more than just being slightly different. It's characterized by a high level of technical skill, innovation, and integrity. Prog is made by people who live, breathe, and devote their lives to all kinds of arts, not just music. It's not written by rockers. It's written by artists with a story to tell. I don't feel comfortable comparing TMV to that.
@smoky289 exactly, thats i how i feel. But everyones treating emo and sreamo like it
is which i do not agree with. Fugazi is Punk, ADTI has lots of styles but all in all theyre just a great rock band. forget labels. good music is good music, mainstream trends never last.
2000...
Yes...he does speak the truth
YES!
Let your freak-flag fly!
'Freaks' need to unite more.
Normal people scare me.
...in the yeear twooo thousaaaand. in the yeeeear twooo thoooousaaaaaaaaand.