I go the other way. Just save the computer install and create a virtual machine like with virtualbox. This way you have the computer exactly as it was at the time the project was done. It reminds me when Jean-Michel Jarre told that once an album was finished he backed up everything, put the computer aside as archive and get a new one for the next project. That's a serious way of doing it too.
I didn’t know that about JMJ, but it doesn’t seem like a great backup in the long run. I’d rather do the virtual machine backup, even if audio seems to me like the most reliable backup. A wave file from 1999 is still (basically) the same as one from 2024, so there’s no compatibility issues. Plugins are a whole different story, and VST instruments are the worst in that regard, IMHO ( I guess that’s the worst downside of the whole “virtual” concept). But at the same time, it’s not like if any producer/composer could get the exact same real orchestra at his disposal every time that a new version was needed. 😉 I’d say that having the individual audio tracks is enough for long term storage.
@@ian3415 It was in an ITW with Joachim Garraud. He was laughing loud because of that method. He said something like if you do a new project, just buy an new computer and keep the old one working as it is. If you need to recall something old, you'll just have to turn on your old macbook with snow leopard and all your tracks will be there as it was.
I just opened a project after two years. I had to remix everything. I got lucky because I'm a better mixer now but I sure could have used this! Thanks, Dom!❤
ive gone to extensive lengths to keep my projects preserved - all the way back to 1998. Unfortunately, my 900 track catalog is NOT complete. I had a house fire and a drive melted that had about 20 projects on it. I don't have them anymore but it was a lesson in learning to let go... Anyway, Cubase is amazing for preservation!!!
@@bLiNdEDM Ouch, that had to hurt! I developed a system almost 20 years ago where all projects are on three different spinners - 1 connected to Pro Tools computer, and 2 more in zipper cases stored in as different a location as is practical. Now that my studio is at home, those two are at the same address but one is in a steel cabinet in zipper cases. The cloud is simply not practical for 20TB. Every once in a while I run a new set and pull the oldest one out of use. It’s not too crazy but it has worked. Sorry to hear about your fire..
@@artysanmobile that sounds like an awesome setup! im looking into a few solutions for backup as I create more but haven't fully decided yet. for now I'm just doing dropbox backups and bluray burned backups
@@bLiNdEDM A backup regime is not really about which technology, but instead what you know you will stick with for the rest of eternity. My setup was decided on for its low cost and high speed and the availability of a 4 drive rack system that takes raw drives. It has worked. I was using optical disks for a while but just couldn’t keep up during busy times. Spinning drives have an amazing lifespan when used this way. The ones I retire are still in use, donated to a friend, well over 20 years old.
@@artysanmobile wow you are more on top of it than I am. But yea I agree that its not really about the tech. I suppose I just need to modify the way my workflow incorporates backing up. It also requires what Dom was talking about - a little extra effort to preserve the audio. Lessons learned all around but going forward should be a lot better. Cheers mate!
@@bLiNdEDM I had to be. I had three network clients overlapping. A typical live broadcast project was 200-300GB. It was crazy at times but I had great assistants to make it possible. There were times I never made it back home between shows, mixing in my hotel’s parking lot on the way to the next show. When I think of it now, a lot of people sure were helpful.
exactly THIS is the reason why I use more and more Cubase stock plugins - in these days Cubase plugins has very good quality and they are on par with external expensive thirdparty manufacturers. In a full song arrange with other tracks you can´t hear these nuances..
@@Byron101_ I’ve never thought of plug-ins as better or worse. The ones I use are better, the ones I don’t are… who cares. I probably have about 100 ‘keepers’ and 2 or 3 times that many ‘experiments.’ I’ve often thought how nice it would be if a user - me - could package all the experiments and sell them in one sale. I remember how hard it was to get my collection where it is and would love to list such a sale for others who could use them.
Hi Dom, thanks for all your great videos. Where do you make your project back up folders? Can you make them inside the project folder for the current song you are working on? 😊
Awesome video brother thank you! I started ITB about 15 years ago and wish I had done some of this. Even now, though, you can't half-a$$ it, like, save-to-new-folder alone doesn't cut it. I'm sharing this video in a composer's group I'm in.
I might also suggest using the "Complete Signal Path" option here: 3:32, that is if you want to keep all the track processing baked into the individual track. This is because the Channel Settings option will only bake in insert effects and will NOT bake in any group or send effects on the channel, instead it will copy over the group and send settings on the rendered track. If the plugins on those sends and/or groups are no longer available later, you will have lost them. Great video thanks! 👍
I didn't super understand the 3rd batch export - but will do it anyway in the future. Perhaps a video showing an example of how the 3rd batch turns out and how it can be used would be helpful! Thanks Dom!
Anyone who opens projects that are a few years old will be familiar with this problem. I have also got into the habit of exporting all the individual tracks, including effects, for each finished project. Inplace rendering is a good idea! Question: You don't render sampler tracks because the audio files in the sampler are automatically in the pool in Cubase?
Thank you so much! I’ve just gone back to Cubase after many years (v3.7 was my last!). Your tips are so helpful and save me lots of time and headaches!
Thanks for the video Dom, as usual, very useful.👍 It would be also interesting to know how to easily keep record of all favourite presets for most of the VST plugin. 🤔
would have saved the headache of searching for new instruments and inserts when upgrading in the past. Looks so much easier now though. Had no idea it was this simple. Thanks Dom
I wish 1990's me had thought of doing this back then. At least I've learned from that mistake, and am more diligent about doing the mass exports, as well as backing up all of those files to an additional drive as well as the cloud for good measure.
' NO EXCUSE ' ! This should be the first video people should watch before learning Cubase or any DAW ! I was waiting for it since... years ! Does your Modern 80s Kit MAX exist in Hardware ?
Dom, I cant thank you enough for this! i've been watching and learning so many valuable things on you tube,but this is probably one of the best things hands down because like you said at some point this will happen eventually. It has to me in the past. again thank you greatly for this piece of knowledge! Big shout out to you!!🙌🙌🙌
Bravo Sir. What you are describing. I have done. Since we got digital audio in computers in the mid-1990s. This is the way to do it. You will render everything out. Start to finish. And everything you have. Gets locked in. Just the way, you wanted it. Of course I've had people ask me. What if you want to undo it? I tell them. I've experienced enough. I don't need to undo anything. It's perfectly fine. Beginners don't know how to do that.. They cannot commit. As right. They shouldn't. They would get a shitty product. And generally do. Amateur hour stuff. Yet they think they got the recipe, all right? Nope. It was even funnier. Back in the purely analog tape, days. Doing it that way. That's right. I will not be undoing anything. I never really needed to. Somehow? It seemed like I knew what I was doing? I fooled everybody! I was figuring it out as I went. I just knew. I couldn't make any wrong decisions. As that would be bad. And I wouldn't, like that. Mr. Ranger wouldn't like that, Yogi. Either. You are right on my man! So now I already know your real good. Great minds think alike. We are on the same page. And hey. Back in 1979, when I was only, 23 years old. And a high school dropout with only a GED. I knew I wouldn't make it, professionally in the world. Good thing I had decided to become a Audio Engineer. When I was only seven years old. And quite naïve. Which actually worked for me, later. Being naïve. It was a plus not a detriment. When you find you only have a, 8 track MCI JH-110 and a 2 track. A really crappy, Yamaha PM-1000. 16 input PA board to record and mix with? Ugh. Just the thought of it again turns my stomach. And handed that piece of crap to work with. I said that's no recording console. That's a lousy PA board. The boss said too bad. Use it. Okey-dokey then. Come what may. But when you are trying to Produce. Big Time, National Jingles. For a multimillion dollar advertising agency. And they don't give you the gear you want. What do you do? Simple. You think up something. That is not simple and impossible to do. Because you can't do it any other way. You don't have the resources. And you can't let that stop you. It didn't stop me.. What did I do? Basically on-the-fly. I had to create. Brand-new recording techniques. Never before used or utilized. It blew everybody's mind. Because it worked so well. As I was only thinking… I hope this works? Because if it doesn't. I have just wasted $10,000 of my bosses money. Because he put his trust into me. I told him I wanted to do this project. And he let me loose with crappy gear. Maybe it was a test? In the days before computers. Before software. Before digital effects devices. Before time, itself. Before 1980. When most jingles, still sounded rather lame. And most production, dismal. Not what I was going to produce. In this impossible way. When you have to do a project, New York City, style. All union. All 3 hours calls. To produce, six. 60, second jingles. In 3 hours time. The same for all the overdubs. Of which. There were as many as 64, overdubs. And I only had a 8 track recorder. So I created Virtual Analog Tracks. All overdubs were done on separate reels of 8 track tape. Everything then mixed down. And flown in. One track at a time. Synchronized by hand and fingertip. Crazy stuff. And even crazier? I would have up to 13 musicians in the studio at one time. And… Well… It was a small studio. And I only had 4 headphones for all 13 people. So they didn't get any headphones. Doing the overdubs. So I would have to play the, Rhythm Tracks. Wildly out the studio speakers. And when you're trying to record very light strings. I pick up more of the speakers than the strings. That sounds pretty awful. That's unusable that way. So? I had to double all of the overdubs tracks. So I could get rid of that background trash. By inverting phase. To make it all go away. Not just a little bit. But literally, about 90%. I reckon. It was very gone. And I just had strings. Or woodwinds. Brass, concert harp, timpani, glockenspiel, banjo, pedal steel. And everybody thought that was really cool! They really got into it. Hearing the music loudly out the studio speakers. Completely corrupting my recording. But then I get rid of it all. Like magic! No plug-ins necessary. No software required. Good old-fashioned analog engineering. We all invented how to do. Some of us are still alive! Though George Massenburg and Bob Clearmountain have a few years on me. We've all worked together. At the same places. The same studios. Over 50 years ago. As rock 'n' roll must cause youth retention? I don't feel any smarter than when I was 25! Now at 69. Magical, 69. The beginning of my new life. As a Nomad in a Motorhome. I mean why not? I'm done. I'm retired. I did it for over 50 years. Literally for billions of people on the planet. On the NBC-TV News Satellite. Every night for 2 decades. And then back to my, Music Audio Engineering and Productions, pursuit. Because it's not really work. And does not require a college degree. Except to design the circuitry, itself. The rest is knowing just, what you want your gear to do. Our marvelous host here is very right. He thought this through. Bravo! He's got a brain. I never deliver a crappy mix to anybody. But sometimes my mixes. Really aren't up to my own standards. And I will not think good, of it. And then I put it away. When I take it out a week later. And listen to it again. I can't remember what I didn't like? It sounds real good. I don't know what I was bitching about it? Because as a season to Professional. You never deliver, Glop. No crap.. It always sounds, great. People will tell me. And I must agree with them. I am that good. You can be also. Just by listening. And figuring out what you're hearing. Because nobody can tell you. What you are hearing. Though many will. I think to get a response? Because they don't know what they are hearing yet they profess they do. And they want to see what your reaction is? Because they are stupid. They have degrees in, Audio Engineering. What the hell is that? Does that mean you can win at computer games playing with audio software? I think so. It really has nothing to do with the Art of Recording, much of anything. And only some angry guy yapping. In the microphone. What talent! I mean what talent? Somebody can Yap? Oh boy! Oh boy… What are you doing here? Do you want a cookie? Or a hit record? You decide. Some of us actually know what we are doing. So does this guy. Really well. RemyRAD
such a great video, this is so helpful! thank you so much Dom. also very imporant in those current days of plugin subscriptions services and you are not having a running subscription anymore.
Defo Dom, always back up on assumption (guaranteed!) one or more plugins get superseded/obsoleted 😮, so you can recover the entire track in it’s detail. Great YT drop and reminder to us all !! 😁👍🎹💥
Also a good idea to name your tracks with the instrument name and patch ... 90% of the issues arise from not having the correct patch loaded up, and you can't remember what it was exactly...
Great info Dom, a great thing to do to be safe. Though I would imagine in 5 to 10 years AI is going to be able to open any one of our songs, even from 20 years ago, and spit out ANYTHING you ask for.
Two questions: 1: If you audio export al those tracks does it take sidechaining into account? Sometimes I have it on individual tracks, sometimes also on busses. 2: I think it is not possible to rebuilt your project so it sounds exactly the same as the one with all the plugins, audio, fx and group channels. Do you take the dry audio tracks and only the fx tracks? What to do with the group tracks? If you add those you double again the individual tracks. Sidechain will also effect eq moves. Is this already rendered. Maybe you can show us how to rebuilt it with the most flexibility.
Since this is such a great workflow, *Cubase should make it all one-click*: one single click gathers the appropriate tracks, makes a new folder of audio backup tracks, hides the old ones. Done.
This is part of why I do a separate mix template from my tracking. Tidied raw files and correctly(?) dynamic'd midi gets exported and goes into my mix with everything being audio files. I definitely still need to get into the habit of doing what you say though for my mixed/processed outputs.
This is why I don't update my Macbook. I'm locked in on Monterey 12.9 cause it just WORKS. Even when I updated to Monterey, I could still access all my old projects fine.
Well after trying to be open minded, it still seem the worry about plugins no longer being available, or features changing, or OS upgrades making plugins obsolete that hardware seems more attractive. Sends, Returns, Aux in, Aux out to hardware will always work no worries about plugins not working. Workstations, Music Production Synthesizers, 240 track MTRs just don't have missing plugin, obsolete plugin, no longer compatible plugin problem
I'm currently doing all my work in my home studio, and I own very few plugins. I have one of each kind that simply does everything. So I recently got to work on a song I started in a commercial studio, with tons of fancy plugins (recorded thru outboard gear), and guess what I hadn't committed any inserts there and because I don't have any of these plugins at home, I had to spend a huge amount of time mixing the track again from scratch (without being paid extra ofc). Listen to Dom people!
That’s just SOP when wrapping up any mix session, home or away. The DAW makers have made it super easy by demand. Additionally, that rendered version is the session you can offer your client if they ask nicely.
@@artysanmobile can i ask you what SOP means? well no client has asked me for session files yet, (it's not like ive had that many clients, im 16 years old working part time), but if they did ask me for a session, i would probably just give them the one with the plugins hehe.
@@LeChapeauMusic I’m sorry! Standard operating procedure, which means I do something by habit. I make a rendered copy of every finished track so my client at least has the possibility of working on the tracks. I don’t want them to, but doing so lets me move forward on new projects without being concerned for that client. I definitely NEVER give them my plugins and rarely any automation either. I consider those my intellectual property whereas the music is most often their property.
@@LeChapeauMusic I started my career in the days of multitrack tape. Back then, my client would get all the boxes of tape, carefully labeled, but by definition with no mix data or outboard. It is that analogy on which I base my deliverables today.
@@artysanmobile i don't understand what you mean, when a PT session has active inserts, and the client who opens it does not have these plugins installed, they're just gunna have to spend time mixing it again with their own stuff, and most of them are just gunna get worse results and come back to you! (again, i haven't done this yet, but i think it might work). also why not automation? usually it's such a mess on my sessions that when i open an old session i just don't understand what's going on and what ive done with the automations so i just commit it (keeping the source tracks ofc in case i need to change anything) and make any necessary changes on the rendered clips. i don't see how a client could steal my automation ideas when even i struggle to understand my own automations when i don't really remember them 🤣🤣🤣
I'll probably have to watch this 4 or 5 times to catch everything. I've been using Cubase for ten years, but you make me realize how much I don't know lol.
I use hardware for everything except, my Noire piano, strikeforce 2 drums, and performance samples orchestral libraries. Everything else is my yamaha montage, korg Kronos, and 3rd wave. Pretty sure my few extremely common and highly used vsts shouldn't have this problem for such a long time that I don't think I need to worry.
Depending on the job I might have a naming scheme that looks like this : Channel number- name- channel type- custom text for tempo -custom test for for DRY/WET :)
Hello! Thanks for the tutorial. I use this method frequently, but I encounter an issue when trying to disable source tracks. Specifically, I don't see the 'Disable Source Tracks' option. Instead, I only have the options to 'Mute Events' and 'Keep Source.' Could you please help me understand why this option is missing for me? 🙂 Thanks!
Welcome to my life 😄One consolation is that the AI stem separation technology is getting better and better so that is always a fall back but far better to do what you are saying.
I recommend you take a look at REAPER's rendering settings... You won't believe what she is capable of... Cubase is still very far from the future... However, I enjoy watching your videos about different plugins. You are fascinating as always... Thank you
Great video dom. question about export dialog. If you have mono audio tracks and some stereo tracks (like Vsts to render) How does the auto process output mono files and stereo interleaved files for the stereo tracks automatically? I generally have to be very careful selecting the mono ones first, export and stage two select stereo ones in another pass.
Cubase's "pool" has screwed me up numerous times. Coming from Reaper is was VERY difficult to get used to, I still have issues with it. Be CAREFUL with the Cubase pool!
Hi Dom, this is fantastic thanks, I have an issue with projects in Cubase, some from over 10 years ago and some less than that. If I try and play the WAVS from them they just don't work, no matter what app I use, the WAVS just don't work, I've tried all sorts of tricks I've found on the internet and I've literally given up, do you know why this happens, how can a WAV just become unusable?
Interesting and certainly an important thing. But you forgot to show how to reopen such a backup in Cubase. What does Cubase say about this? And how many bits and bytes are stored in such a backup. In your example song there seem to be a lot of tracks, that will require a lot of storage space, right?
Hi, this is one of the problems I encountered. switched from Logic Pro. there is another thing, in Logic I'll give an example WAVES in the plug ins menu you read Waves you positioned yourself above and all the ones I have came out. the Cubase pro 13 are set to a very awkward default mode
@04:20 Dom, you forgot to mention also, DISABLE the tracks so the plugins are disabled and not using resources, also not causing delays on startup. Do you do that on your big templates? I do that and while opening, it takes time even if the plugins on the tracks are disabled... why, oh why?
Hello Dom, this has nothing to do with your topic... but I have a question... does what Big Z describes here (Big Z: Every Song On Earth Should Use This Vocal Mixing Trick") also work in Cubase with, for example, Frequency? Can you perhaps make a short video about it? Or is that nonsense..? Thank YOU..!
I always tried to backup all the VST I used....from the times of Cubase SX until now...my recent thoughts: Can I restore my old PC with JBridge versions to transform a 32bit VST computer into a 64bit VST computer...Would my old recordings be usable and have the advantage of 64bit faster newer computers...?
Question: Will you still get the warnings about resources not available on the hidden tracks? It would still be helpful to know the specifics of what needs to be addressed to bring back an old original track (maybe just replace an older reverb with a newer). This came at an opportune time as I’m reopening all my old projects after migrating to a Mac from a PC, and I’ve chosen not to migrate the clutter of hundreds of unused plugins.
@@DomSigalas yes, a lot of game people use reaper for it's ability to spit out any format/version of stems/tracks/regions etc so if you've got 20 different language versions of a game for example that makes a huge time saving. Cubase is still a preferable environment for me though . reaper has the performance edge over Cubase and also I'd say the Stability edge, it really is bullet proof. Cubase is good if you get a good working setup Windows or Mac OS but Reaper is bullet proof. That comes at a cost though and for a lot of people it's too much.
@@norburybrook that’s cool! Impressive that many other DAWs don’t have these feature! Yes Reaper is amazing but there are some features in Cubase the can’t be beat- especially midi features. Reaper is solid for audio work though!
Any one who doesn’t render and print to audio stems is clearly asking for trouble. This still doesn’t address the fact that plugin developers force updates down your throat (kontakt, komplete kontrol, 32bit to 64 bit) and break your plugins. I basically write down meta data in every midi stem indicating synth preset used, vst internal or external, bpm, key, file system path to custom patches. Its boring as hell but its the only way to be sure you can recreate the vst patch 5 years later. This is one of the many drawbacks of computers and DAWs. Hardware synths are much more static cause they aren’t connected to the internet/ developers messing about all the time.😂 for ableton collect all and save is your friend. And create ableton exportable project to another computer
Man, I still got a couple beats I want to use so I’m hoping to figure out because 1. I didn’t label track with plug-in name and sound name 2. I didn’t render!
When you back up your project, you leave the option 'Keep Current Project Active' on. After the backup, you export all channels and tracks, but those will not be saved in your backup Mixdown folder. Because the new backup is not the active project, or do I miss something?
If you keep your current project on it will just not open the newly created project that was created with the backup process. You will have to open it manually. If you do any changes to the original project , this will not be included on the backup as the backup is a snapshot of what exists already and not what happened to the original project afterwards :) Hope this helps!
Actually features and tools are mostly very different from DAW to DAW... This hints you are saying, will NOT work in other DAWS the exactly way you show...
Hi Dom, I'm not particularly technically minded and am having trouble getting group channels to replicate panning of the included tracks. I've followed all the support recommendations but still everything comes out centred. I didn't really have this situation until I upgraded to CB Pro 13. What am I missing? Sorry for asking such a dumb question.
Hi Dom thanks for the video. In my Cubase 13 Pro the render panel doesn't have the 'hide source tracks' checkbox, do I need to enable it from general preferences?
This probably means you have an event selected. You have to make sure no event is selected so Cubase will render the entire track :) When you do this, the option will show up :)
I have always 'locked down' every DAW/computer I build. After three years, I get a new computer and begin new projects. When I re-open I make sure the auto-updates are ALWAYS off.
Hello everyone, I´m working on an audio book in Cubase and I've recorded every chapter on individual channel each, does anybody know how can I export them individually preserving the individual duration of each chapter?
I go the other way. Just save the computer install and create a virtual machine like with virtualbox. This way you have the computer exactly as it was at the time the project was done. It reminds me when Jean-Michel Jarre told that once an album was finished he backed up everything, put the computer aside as archive and get a new one for the next project. That's a serious way of doing it too.
I didn’t know that about JMJ, but it doesn’t seem like a great backup in the long run.
I’d rather do the virtual machine backup, even if audio seems to me like the most reliable backup.
A wave file from 1999 is still (basically) the same as one from 2024, so there’s no compatibility issues.
Plugins are a whole different story, and VST instruments are the worst in that regard, IMHO ( I guess that’s the worst downside of the whole “virtual” concept).
But at the same time, it’s not like if any producer/composer could get the exact same real orchestra at his disposal every time that a new version was needed. 😉
I’d say that having the individual audio tracks is enough for long term storage.
I'd love that J-MJ money just to waste it like he apparently did.
@@ian3415 It was in an ITW with Joachim Garraud. He was laughing loud because of that method. He said something like if you do a new project, just buy an new computer and keep the old one working as it is. If you need to recall something old, you'll just have to turn on your old macbook with snow leopard and all your tracks will be there as it was.
I just opened a project after two years. I had to remix everything. I got lucky because I'm a better mixer now but I sure could have used this!
Thanks, Dom!❤
ive gone to extensive lengths to keep my projects preserved - all the way back to 1998. Unfortunately, my 900 track catalog is NOT complete. I had a house fire and a drive melted that had about 20 projects on it. I don't have them anymore but it was a lesson in learning to let go... Anyway, Cubase is amazing for preservation!!!
@@bLiNdEDM Ouch, that had to hurt! I developed a system almost 20 years ago where all projects are on three different spinners - 1 connected to Pro Tools computer, and 2 more in zipper cases stored in as different a location as is practical. Now that my studio is at home, those two are at the same address but one is in a steel cabinet in zipper cases. The cloud is simply not practical for 20TB. Every once in a while I run a new set and pull the oldest one out of use. It’s not too crazy but it has worked. Sorry to hear about your fire..
@@artysanmobile that sounds like an awesome setup! im looking into a few solutions for backup as I create more but haven't fully decided yet. for now I'm just doing dropbox backups and bluray burned backups
@@bLiNdEDM A backup regime is not really about which technology, but instead what you know you will stick with for the rest of eternity. My setup was decided on for its low cost and high speed and the availability of a 4 drive rack system that takes raw drives. It has worked. I was using optical disks for a while but just couldn’t keep up during busy times. Spinning drives have an amazing lifespan when used this way. The ones I retire are still in use, donated to a friend, well over 20 years old.
@@artysanmobile wow you are more on top of it than I am. But yea I agree that its not really about the tech. I suppose I just need to modify the way my workflow incorporates backing up. It also requires what Dom was talking about - a little extra effort to preserve the audio. Lessons learned all around but going forward should be a lot better. Cheers mate!
@@bLiNdEDM I had to be. I had three network clients overlapping. A typical live broadcast project was 200-300GB. It was crazy at times but I had great assistants to make it possible. There were times I never made it back home between shows, mixing in my hotel’s parking lot on the way to the next show. When I think of it now, a lot of people sure were helpful.
exactly THIS is the reason why I use more and more Cubase stock plugins - in these days Cubase plugins has very good quality and they are on par with external expensive thirdparty manufacturers. In a full song arrange with other tracks you can´t hear these nuances..
@@Byron101_ I’ve never thought of plug-ins as better or worse. The ones I use are better, the ones I don’t are… who cares. I probably have about 100 ‘keepers’ and 2 or 3 times that many ‘experiments.’ I’ve often thought how nice it would be if a user - me - could package all the experiments and sell them in one sale. I remember how hard it was to get my collection where it is and would love to list such a sale for others who could use them.
I either have to dial back the drugs or Dom's messing with me by changing his shirt color halfway through the video on purpose. 1:55
@@pastilance1 What are u talking about? I don’t see his shirt changing color.
It's like he's got some sort of light in the studio that's doing that with his shirt. Dial back the drugs anyway. 🤣
@@artysanmobile 1:55 my man.
@@erikhall9776 Sorry. I was joking.
@@erikhall9776 It’s actually being done in the video stream. The real color is pure enough and strange enough to become a key for the effect.
Hi Dom, thanks for all your great videos. Where do you make your project back up folders? Can you make them inside the project folder for the current song you are working on? 😊
Thank you Dom to take this precaution. When a project is finished, we're so happy that we forget to save it and all its datas.
Awesome video brother thank you! I started ITB about 15 years ago and wish I had done some of this. Even now, though, you can't half-a$$ it, like, save-to-new-folder alone doesn't cut it. I'm sharing this video in a composer's group I'm in.
I might also suggest using the "Complete Signal Path" option here: 3:32, that is if you want to keep all the track processing baked into the individual track. This is because the Channel Settings option will only bake in insert effects and will NOT bake in any group or send effects on the channel, instead it will copy over the group and send settings on the rendered track. If the plugins on those sends and/or groups are no longer available later, you will have lost them. Great video thanks! 👍
I didn't super understand the 3rd batch export - but will do it anyway in the future. Perhaps a video showing an example of how the 3rd batch turns out and how it can be used would be helpful! Thanks Dom!
Thanks Dom! That's a God send there!
If only I knew this 10 years ago.....
There were some excellent tips contained in this lesson. I definitely found value in it.
Thanks!
Your new song is amazing 😻😻😻!) I love your voice and your music is just so beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for your videos, I’ve learned a lot with ❤️
Anyone who opens projects that are a few years old will be familiar with this problem. I have also got into the habit of exporting all the individual tracks, including effects, for each finished project.
Inplace rendering is a good idea!
Question: You don't render sampler tracks because the audio files in the sampler are automatically in the pool in Cubase?
Great Dom. Always learning new things on Cubase thanks to you. Tremendous features and extremely well explained by you. 😃😃
Thank you so much! I’ve just gone back to Cubase after many years (v3.7 was my last!). Your tips are so helpful and save me lots of time and headaches!
Yes!...We've all experienced this situation. Thank You, George A. 🙂
Thanks for the video Dom, as usual, very useful.👍 It would be also interesting to know how to easily keep record of all favourite presets for most of the VST plugin. 🤔
The t-shirt swap is mesmerizing 😂
would have saved the headache of searching for new instruments and inserts when upgrading in the past.
Looks so much easier now though.
Had no idea it was this simple.
Thanks Dom
I wish 1990's me had thought of doing this back then. At least I've learned from that mistake, and am more diligent about doing the mass exports, as well as backing up all of those files to an additional drive as well as the cloud for good measure.
' NO EXCUSE ' ! This should be the first video people should watch before learning Cubase or any DAW ! I was waiting for it since... years !
Does your Modern 80s Kit MAX exist in Hardware ?
Hey Dom!!! Your cubase colors look lovely. Can you please share your color palate, Thank You❤❤
excellent video as always Dom, is there a way to automate any of this using macros?
Wow this is awesome man
thank you so much Dom!
Dom, I cant thank you enough for this! i've been watching and learning so many valuable things on you tube,but this is probably one of the best things hands down because like you said at some point this will happen eventually. It has to me in the past. again thank you greatly for this piece of knowledge! Big shout out to you!!🙌🙌🙌
Great and important tip Dom - and very timely! Thanks!
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Excellent advice! Thank you, Dom.
Great video. Loved how the color of the shirt changes randomally
Same, hah
Another helpful video! This was amazing!
This video is gold... thanks dom..
Bravo Sir. What you are describing. I have done. Since we got digital audio in computers in the mid-1990s. This is the way to do it. You will render everything out. Start to finish. And everything you have. Gets locked in. Just the way, you wanted it.
Of course I've had people ask me. What if you want to undo it? I tell them. I've experienced enough. I don't need to undo anything. It's perfectly fine. Beginners don't know how to do that.. They cannot commit. As right. They shouldn't. They would get a shitty product. And generally do. Amateur hour stuff. Yet they think they got the recipe, all right? Nope.
It was even funnier. Back in the purely analog tape, days. Doing it that way. That's right. I will not be undoing anything. I never really needed to. Somehow? It seemed like I knew what I was doing? I fooled everybody! I was figuring it out as I went. I just knew. I couldn't make any wrong decisions. As that would be bad. And I wouldn't, like that. Mr. Ranger wouldn't like that, Yogi. Either.
You are right on my man! So now I already know your real good. Great minds think alike. We are on the same page.
And hey. Back in 1979, when I was only, 23 years old. And a high school dropout with only a GED. I knew I wouldn't make it, professionally in the world. Good thing I had decided to become a Audio Engineer. When I was only seven years old. And quite naïve. Which actually worked for me, later. Being naïve. It was a plus not a detriment.
When you find you only have a, 8 track MCI JH-110 and a 2 track. A really crappy, Yamaha PM-1000. 16 input PA board to record and mix with? Ugh. Just the thought of it again turns my stomach. And handed that piece of crap to work with. I said that's no recording console. That's a lousy PA board. The boss said too bad. Use it. Okey-dokey then. Come what may.
But when you are trying to Produce. Big Time, National Jingles. For a multimillion dollar advertising agency. And they don't give you the gear you want. What do you do? Simple. You think up something. That is not simple and impossible to do. Because you can't do it any other way. You don't have the resources. And you can't let that stop you. It didn't stop me.. What did I do?
Basically on-the-fly. I had to create. Brand-new recording techniques. Never before used or utilized. It blew everybody's mind. Because it worked so well. As I was only thinking… I hope this works? Because if it doesn't. I have just wasted $10,000 of my bosses money. Because he put his trust into me. I told him I wanted to do this project. And he let me loose with crappy gear. Maybe it was a test? In the days before computers. Before software. Before digital effects devices. Before time, itself. Before 1980. When most jingles, still sounded rather lame. And most production, dismal. Not what I was going to produce. In this impossible way.
When you have to do a project, New York City, style. All union. All 3 hours calls. To produce, six. 60, second jingles. In 3 hours time. The same for all the overdubs. Of which. There were as many as 64, overdubs. And I only had a 8 track recorder. So I created Virtual Analog Tracks. All overdubs were done on separate reels of 8 track tape. Everything then mixed down. And flown in. One track at a time. Synchronized by hand and fingertip. Crazy stuff. And even crazier?
I would have up to 13 musicians in the studio at one time. And… Well… It was a small studio. And I only had 4 headphones for all 13 people. So they didn't get any headphones. Doing the overdubs. So I would have to play the, Rhythm Tracks. Wildly out the studio speakers. And when you're trying to record very light strings. I pick up more of the speakers than the strings. That sounds pretty awful. That's unusable that way. So? I had to double all of the overdubs tracks. So I could get rid of that background trash. By inverting phase. To make it all go away. Not just a little bit. But literally, about 90%. I reckon. It was very gone. And I just had strings. Or woodwinds. Brass, concert harp, timpani, glockenspiel, banjo, pedal steel. And everybody thought that was really cool! They really got into it. Hearing the music loudly out the studio speakers. Completely corrupting my recording. But then I get rid of it all. Like magic! No plug-ins necessary. No software required. Good old-fashioned analog engineering. We all invented how to do. Some of us are still alive!
Though George Massenburg and Bob Clearmountain have a few years on me. We've all worked together. At the same places. The same studios. Over 50 years ago. As rock 'n' roll must cause youth retention? I don't feel any smarter than when I was 25! Now at 69. Magical, 69. The beginning of my new life. As a Nomad in a Motorhome.
I mean why not? I'm done. I'm retired. I did it for over 50 years. Literally for billions of people on the planet. On the NBC-TV News Satellite. Every night for 2 decades. And then back to my, Music Audio Engineering and Productions, pursuit. Because it's not really work. And does not require a college degree. Except to design the circuitry, itself.
The rest is knowing just, what you want your gear to do.
Our marvelous host here is very right. He thought this through. Bravo! He's got a brain.
I never deliver a crappy mix to anybody. But sometimes my mixes. Really aren't up to my own standards. And I will not think good, of it. And then I put it away.
When I take it out a week later. And listen to it again. I can't remember what I didn't like? It sounds real good. I don't know what I was bitching about it?
Because as a season to Professional. You never deliver, Glop. No crap.. It always sounds, great. People will tell me. And I must agree with them. I am that good. You can be also. Just by listening. And figuring out what you're hearing. Because nobody can tell you. What you are hearing. Though many will. I think to get a response? Because they don't know what they are hearing yet they profess they do. And they want to see what your reaction is? Because they are stupid. They have degrees in, Audio Engineering. What the hell is that? Does that mean you can win at computer games playing with audio software? I think so. It really has nothing to do with the Art of Recording, much of anything. And only some angry guy yapping. In the microphone. What talent! I mean what talent? Somebody can Yap? Oh boy! Oh boy… What are you doing here? Do you want a cookie? Or a hit record? You decide.
Some of us actually know what we are doing. So does this guy. Really well.
RemyRAD
such a great video, this is so helpful! thank you so much Dom.
also very imporant in those current days of plugin subscriptions services and you are not having a running subscription anymore.
Defo Dom, always back up on assumption (guaranteed!) one or more plugins get superseded/obsoleted 😮, so you can recover the entire track in it’s detail. Great YT drop and reminder to us all !! 😁👍🎹💥
Thank you, Domenic? for very usable video!
Another fantastic and really useful video Dom! Thank you very much! 🙂👍
Also a good idea to name your tracks with the instrument name and patch ...
90% of the issues arise from not having the correct patch loaded up, and you can't remember what it was exactly...
Good point! I like doing this on my Notepad for each channel in Cubase :)
Man!
Great info Dom, a great thing to do to be safe. Though I would imagine in 5 to 10 years AI is going to be able to open any one of our songs, even from 20 years ago, and spit out ANYTHING you ask for.
Merci pour vos partages🙏👍
Two questions:
1: If you audio export al those tracks does it take sidechaining into account? Sometimes I have it on individual tracks, sometimes also on busses.
2: I think it is not possible to rebuilt your project so it sounds exactly the same as the one with all the plugins, audio, fx and group channels.
Do you take the dry audio tracks and only the fx tracks? What to do with the group tracks? If you add those you double again the individual tracks. Sidechain will also effect eq moves. Is this already rendered.
Maybe you can show us how to rebuilt it with the most flexibility.
Since this is such a great workflow, *Cubase should make it all one-click*: one single click gathers the appropriate tracks, makes a new folder of audio backup tracks, hides the old ones. Done.
This is part of why I do a separate mix template from my tracking. Tidied raw files and correctly(?) dynamic'd midi gets exported and goes into my mix with everything being audio files. I definitely still need to get into the habit of doing what you say though for my mixed/processed outputs.
thats a great habit and also saves lots of cpu resources in your mixing session, without having the VSTis running in the background.
@@ChrrZ It was so much better on performance. even on the small number of tracks my pet projects run.
He makes such a great videos!
Hey your Cubase looks amazing!! How did you make your color scheme and how did you turn the track icons black instead of white?
Complicated these days but I cannot imagine recall before DAW's 😭
This is why I don't update my Macbook. I'm locked in on Monterey 12.9 cause it just WORKS. Even when I updated to Monterey, I could still access all my old projects fine.
The problem is I never finish anything 😢
@@dfender57 yes! And figure out the chorus and ending before you polish the intro…
My problem too. No song is ever really done.
Thats why we watch the channel.. to get it done.. in the right way.. have fun my dears!
@@agressteve5008 Its because we spend too much time on RUclips! lol
@@Harrysound do a sketch on piano first, then you can play with instruments and production.
Well after trying to be open minded, it still seem the worry about plugins no longer being available, or features changing, or OS upgrades making plugins obsolete that hardware seems more attractive. Sends, Returns, Aux in, Aux out to hardware will always work no worries about plugins not working. Workstations, Music Production Synthesizers, 240 track MTRs just don't have missing plugin, obsolete plugin, no longer compatible plugin problem
I'm currently doing all my work in my home studio, and I own very few plugins. I have one of each kind that simply does everything. So I recently got to work on a song I started in a commercial studio, with tons of fancy plugins (recorded thru outboard gear), and guess what I hadn't committed any inserts there and because I don't have any of these plugins at home, I had to spend a huge amount of time mixing the track again from scratch (without being paid extra ofc). Listen to Dom people!
That’s just SOP when wrapping up any mix session, home or away. The DAW makers have made it super easy by demand.
Additionally, that rendered version is the session you can offer your client if they ask nicely.
@@artysanmobile can i ask you what SOP means? well no client has asked me for session files yet, (it's not like ive had that many clients, im 16 years old working part time), but if they did ask me for a session, i would probably just give them the one with the plugins hehe.
@@LeChapeauMusic I’m sorry! Standard operating procedure, which means I do something by habit. I make a rendered copy of every finished track so my client at least has the possibility of working on the tracks. I don’t want them to, but doing so lets me move forward on new projects without being concerned for that client. I definitely NEVER give them my plugins and rarely any automation either. I consider those my intellectual property whereas the music is most often their property.
@@LeChapeauMusic I started my career in the days of multitrack tape. Back then, my client would get all the boxes of tape, carefully labeled, but by definition with no mix data or outboard. It is that analogy on which I base my deliverables today.
@@artysanmobile i don't understand what you mean, when a PT session has active inserts, and the client who opens it does not have these plugins installed, they're just gunna have to spend time mixing it again with their own stuff, and most of them are just gunna get worse results and come back to you! (again, i haven't done this yet, but i think it might work). also why not automation? usually it's such a mess on my sessions that when i open an old session i just don't understand what's going on and what ive done with the automations so i just commit it (keeping the source tracks ofc in case i need to change anything) and make any necessary changes on the rendered clips. i don't see how a client could steal my automation ideas when even i struggle to understand my own automations when i don't really remember them 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks!
Thanks.
I'll probably have to watch this 4 or 5 times to catch everything. I've been using Cubase for ten years, but you make me realize how much I don't know lol.
I use hardware for everything except, my Noire piano, strikeforce 2 drums, and performance samples orchestral libraries. Everything else is my yamaha montage, korg Kronos, and 3rd wave.
Pretty sure my few extremely common and highly used vsts shouldn't have this problem for such a long time that I don't think I need to worry.
Thanks for sharing this with us, Don.
Could you also elaborate about your naming scheme for your tracks?
Depending on the job I might have a naming scheme that looks like this :
Channel number- name- channel type- custom text for tempo -custom test for for DRY/WET :)
@@DomSigalas thanks, but I meant the naming with codes on group channels and fx channels
@@PatrickSchouten Oh! Sure:
Group Channels: >
FX Channels: *
Parallel Channels: =
hope this helps!
Great Dom, it happens with me all time! Good recommendation!
this was very helpful
Hello! Thanks for the tutorial. I use this method frequently, but I encounter an issue when trying to disable source tracks. Specifically, I don't see the 'Disable Source Tracks' option. Instead, I only have the options to 'Mute Events' and 'Keep Source.' Could you please help me understand why this option is missing for me? 🙂 Thanks!
Yes! Make sure you have no events selected as I show on the video! Otherwise Cubase will render only this event and not the entire channel :)
@@DomSigalas 😀 Ohh i see! Thank you!
I think you’ve made this video for me! I regularly open previous projects that now have missing files. Where do they go?…
Thank you!
Welcome to my life 😄One consolation is that the AI stem separation technology is getting better and better so that is always a fall back but far better to do what you are saying.
I recommend you take a look at REAPER's rendering settings...
You won't believe what she is capable of...
Cubase is still very far from the future...
However, I enjoy watching your videos about different plugins.
You are fascinating as always...
Thank you
Send us a video showing us :) I’m interested.
Great video dom. question about export dialog. If you have mono audio tracks and some stereo tracks (like Vsts to render) How does the auto process output mono files and stereo interleaved files for the stereo tracks automatically? I generally have to be very careful selecting the mono ones first, export and stage two select stereo ones in another pass.
Question...Great process and can this be a Dolby ATMOS render project? Any added steps or settings for these? Thank You!
Cubase's "pool" has screwed me up numerous times. Coming from Reaper is was VERY difficult to get used to, I still have issues with it. Be CAREFUL with the Cubase pool!
Hi Dom, this is fantastic thanks, I have an issue with projects in Cubase, some from over 10 years ago and some less than that. If I try and play the WAVS from them they just don't work, no matter what app I use, the WAVS just don't work, I've tried all sorts of tricks I've found on the internet and I've literally given up, do you know why this happens, how can a WAV just become unusable?
Remember, kids: BUCK UP! Buck up your projects.
Interesting and certainly an important thing. But you forgot to show how to reopen such a backup in Cubase. What does Cubase say about this? And how many bits and bytes are stored in such a backup. In your example song there seem to be a lot of tracks, that will require a lot of storage space, right?
The Upgrade to the non Beatcalculator version of Nuendo was a regretable mistakte I can‘t undo 😢
What do you mean non-beat calculator? Watch my Cubase 13 video, the feature is there but has moved somewhere else :)
Hi, this is one of the problems I encountered. switched from Logic Pro. there is another thing, in Logic I'll give an example WAVES in the plug ins menu you read Waves you positioned yourself above and all the ones I have came out. the Cubase pro 13 are set to a very awkward default mode
@04:20 Dom, you forgot to mention also, DISABLE the tracks so the plugins are disabled and not using resources, also not causing delays on startup. Do you do that on your big templates? I do that and while opening, it takes time even if the plugins on the tracks are disabled... why, oh why?
I have the option disable tracks on when I render in place. :)
No I don’t disable my plugins in big templates :)
Hello Dom, this has nothing to do with your topic... but I have a question... does what Big Z describes here (Big Z: Every Song On Earth Should Use This Vocal Mixing Trick") also work in Cubase with, for example, Frequency? Can you perhaps make a short video about it? Or is that nonsense..? Thank YOU..!
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how to set up 1 left click to add not left click to delete in cubase
And that is why we print every thing through the console no plugs. 🎉
I always tried to backup all the VST I used....from the times of Cubase SX until now...my recent thoughts: Can I restore my old PC with JBridge versions to transform a 32bit VST computer into a 64bit VST computer...Would my old recordings be usable and have the advantage of 64bit faster newer computers...?
Question: Will you still get the warnings about resources not available on the hidden tracks? It would still be helpful to know the specifics of what needs to be addressed to bring back an old original track (maybe just replace an older reverb with a newer). This came at an opportune time as I’m reopening all my old projects after migrating to a Mac from a PC, and I’ve chosen not to migrate the clutter of hundreds of unused plugins.
good video :) Reaper can do all this as well. It has great batch exporting of any project/stems/situation :)
Oh really? Did it add export without effects and group/master chains? 🙂
@@DomSigalas yes, a lot of game people use reaper for it's ability to spit out any format/version of stems/tracks/regions etc so if you've got 20 different language versions of a game for example that makes a huge time saving. Cubase is still a preferable environment for me though . reaper has the performance edge over Cubase and also I'd say the Stability edge, it really is bullet proof. Cubase is good if you get a good working setup Windows or Mac OS but Reaper is bullet proof. That comes at a cost though and for a lot of people it's too much.
@@norburybrook that’s cool! Impressive that many other DAWs don’t have these feature!
Yes Reaper is amazing but there are some features in Cubase the can’t be beat- especially midi features.
Reaper is solid for audio work though!
wish we lived in a perfect world where we just use any plugin version on any system
Any one who doesn’t render and print to audio stems is clearly asking for trouble. This still doesn’t address the fact that plugin developers force updates down your throat (kontakt, komplete kontrol, 32bit to 64 bit) and break your plugins. I basically write down meta data in every midi stem indicating synth preset used, vst internal or external, bpm, key, file system path to custom patches. Its boring as hell but its the only way to be sure you can recreate the vst patch 5 years later. This is one of the many drawbacks of computers and DAWs. Hardware synths are much more static cause they aren’t connected to the internet/ developers messing about all the time.😂 for ableton collect all and save is your friend. And create ableton exportable project to another computer
Thanks. What is the difference between render and export audio for all channels?
Man, I still got a couple beats I want to use so I’m hoping to figure out because 1. I didn’t label track with plug-in name and sound name 2. I didn’t render!
i actually ditched native instrument alltogether bc of backwards compatibility issues.
How do you export and backup all the different coloured T-shirts? 😂
When you back up your project, you leave the option 'Keep Current Project Active' on. After the backup, you export all channels and tracks, but those will not be saved in your backup Mixdown folder. Because the new backup is not the active project, or do I miss something?
If you keep your current project on it will just not open the newly created project that was created with the backup process. You will have to open it manually.
If you do any changes to the original project , this will not be included on the backup as the backup is a snapshot of what exists already and not what happened to the original project afterwards :)
Hope this helps!
Learned that the hard way :)
Actually features and tools are mostly very different from DAW to DAW... This hints you are saying, will NOT work in other DAWS the exactly way you show...
By the way, do you know how this solution is carried out in FLStudio 21?
Hi Dom, I'm not particularly technically minded and am having trouble getting group channels to replicate panning of the included tracks. I've followed all the support recommendations but still everything comes out centred. I didn't really have this situation until I upgraded to CB Pro 13. What am I missing? Sorry for asking such a dumb question.
Are you sure you’re using stereo group channels and not mono? :)
@@DomSigalas Oh dear.. You are quite right what I thought was a stereo track was just stereo output.. 🤣 Thank you so much Dom.. 😜
Hi, render in place does not work if you have HW in the loop for the track.
use Reaper. it just opens. no issues since 6 years
Dom, I am opening up old projects and they sound pitched up and sped up. What's could be the issue?
Sample rate is incorrect..
Hi Dom thanks for the video. In my Cubase 13 Pro the render panel doesn't have the 'hide source tracks' checkbox, do I need to enable it from general preferences?
This probably means you have an event selected. You have to make sure no event is selected so Cubase will render the entire track :)
When you do this, the option will show up :)
@@DomSigalas thank you so much :)
Drum fill 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎬🎬🎬
Buck up 🎉
I have always 'locked down' every DAW/computer I build. After three years, I get a new computer and begin new projects. When I re-open I make sure the auto-updates are ALWAYS off.
facts
I have always been that person.
No one is talking about his rgb t shirt ;0
Hello everyone, I´m working on an audio book in Cubase and I've recorded every chapter on individual channel each, does anybody know how can I export them individually preserving the individual duration of each chapter?
Hi, use his last option export, and select one channel at a time and put it in the queue.
You must have a bottomless SD Drive. 😎
Sir you are my teacher