Thanks for the vid. I have never used a gas burner for my steam plants. The two I have are a 50's or 60's Wilesco Old Smokey and a 1956-60 Fleischmann Horizontal Steam Plant which use the solid fuel tablets.
Mr. Appleton if I may make a recommendation, perhaps you may benefit from the use of silicon carbide in ceramic burner designs. I will also extend my gratitude by saying thank you and making a donation of support to your most noble engineering endeavors.
There are a couple of rather good videos on the Forest Classics website that show how to set up a Bix burner and the instructions that come with a Bix burner were written by someone who knows what he is talking about. This is very much a case of making a brew and sitting down to read the instructions before you go play with your shiny new gas burner.
Excellent video, do you have any video on how to build this burner? Apparently it is a square, rectangular or U profile, the only thing left to do is buy the infrared ceramic. If you had a video of its construction it would be of great help for my project, thank you
Hey Keith! Great video. Can you do a video on sizing an engine to boiler/burner? Any rules of thumb you use? The internet is full of dubious advice on this topic and you have always been a trusted source
@@keithappleton Thank you, I already found forest classics but I dont gave a credit card or paypal. I'll give the other options a try. Clevedon reminds me of Regner dampftechniken, which i have a good impression of from previous orders. Cheers.
Another GREAT video Mr. Appleton. Where can I find replacement orifice's? The one that was sent with my burner is a #16. Could I solder it shut and re-drill the orifice to a more suitable size?
Good demonstration! Im curious why these burners use ceramic at all when they are not meant to glow? When you google ceramic burner all of them are of the infrared type, they are meant to glow. Now we know these burners arent meant to glow so why is ceramic used? Most gas burners for comercial boilers are just your standard ported tube type. I have made burners with similar dimensions as this but just used a perforated metal plate insted of ceramic. Got nice even heat with blue cones. Could you do an experiment where you swap out the ceramic for a aluminium or ss perforated plate with the same amount of holes of the same size to see what happens?
I have covered the different types of Ceramic burners a few time in other videos. In theory they should be fine glowing red, but some will burn out depending on the type of Ceramic that they are made from.
Thanks for this. The whole gas burner thing is not straightforward for newbies like me. Buying an expensive burner that doesn't really fit your needs when the aim is to build the project from scratch is not attractive. But designing and sourcing and commissioning are really quite frustrating tasks. So any information is very welcome.
Wonderful musician and model engineer Keith Appleton passed away today at 106 years of age. In other news the price of petrol reached a new high of 400 pounds per ounce.
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Great video Keith, thank you very much for producing it, it was a massive help to me.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the vid. I have never used a gas burner for my steam plants. The two I have are a 50's or 60's Wilesco Old Smokey and a 1956-60 Fleischmann Horizontal Steam Plant which use the solid fuel tablets.
I love your idea
Mr. Appleton if I may make a recommendation, perhaps you may benefit from the use of silicon carbide in ceramic burner designs. I will also extend my gratitude by saying thank you and making a donation of support to your most noble engineering endeavors.
There are a couple of rather good videos on the Forest Classics website that show how to set up a Bix burner and the instructions that come with a Bix burner were written by someone who knows what he is talking about.
This is very much a case of making a brew and sitting down to read the instructions before you go play with your shiny new gas burner.
Yes I would agree with that, they work OK but they definitely do not need pushing too hard.
Always worth looking at the instructions. They may help, even if it’s something that you’re confident to just get on with.
Excellent video, do you have any video on how to build this burner? Apparently it is a square, rectangular or U profile, the only thing left to do is buy the infrared ceramic. If you had a video of its construction it would be of great help for my project, thank you
It is a "Bix" type burner - available from Forest classics.
Hey Keith! Great video. Can you do a video on sizing an engine to boiler/burner? Any rules of thumb you use? The internet is full of dubious advice on this topic and you have always been a trusted source
The larger of the two Bix burners is suitable for a Stuart 504 boiler and the smaller on is OK for a Stuart 500 or 501 size boiler.
thanks
I have a ceramic burner in one of my live steam locomotive. They put out alot of heat.
Hello Keith, where did you find that adapter for the coleman canister? I've searched for ages and couldn't find one here. Cheers.
www.forest-classics.co.uk may have them, or maybe www.clevedonsteam.co.uk - failing that - Ebay }:-)))
@@keithappleton Thank you, I already found forest classics but I dont gave a credit card or paypal. I'll give the other options a try. Clevedon reminds me of Regner dampftechniken, which i have a good impression of from previous orders. Cheers.
I ordered one from clevedon. Cheers.
Another GREAT video Mr. Appleton. Where can I find replacement orifice's? The one that was sent with my burner is a #16. Could I solder it shut and re-drill the orifice to a more suitable size?
Try www.forest-classics.co.uk
Good demonstration!
Im curious why these burners use ceramic at all when they are not meant to glow? When you google ceramic burner all of them are of the infrared type, they are meant to glow.
Now we know these burners arent meant to glow so why is ceramic used? Most gas burners for comercial boilers are just your standard ported tube type. I have made burners with similar dimensions as this but just used a perforated metal plate insted of ceramic. Got nice even heat with blue cones.
Could you do an experiment where you swap out the ceramic for a aluminium or ss perforated plate with the same amount of holes of the same size to see what happens?
I have covered the different types of Ceramic burners a few time in other videos. In theory they should be fine glowing red, but some will burn out depending on the type of Ceramic that they are made from.
Thanks for this. The whole gas burner thing is not straightforward for newbies like me. Buying an expensive burner that doesn't really fit your needs when the aim is to build the project from scratch is not attractive. But designing and sourcing and commissioning are really quite frustrating tasks. So any information is very welcome.
Glad it was helpful!
I am confused, I thought the idea Ceramic Burners was to provide most of the heat through radiant energy and the burners were best when glowing red?
Like those of radiant brick gas heaters/gas cooker grill
I think it's probably a hang over from the old gas burning lanterns in which the gauze is supposed to glow
why do they not have a venturi shroud?
They do not need such a thing .......
I wish that this video had been available in 2007 when I cremated my Bix burner.
Wonderful musician and model engineer Keith Appleton passed away today at 106 years of age. In other news the price of petrol reached a new high of 400 pounds per ounce.
}:-))) I look forward to it ......
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Why do you put your video titles in all capital letters?
Because like myself, many of my viewers are not young people, and unfortunately as one gets older, eyesight often becomes not quite as good as it was, so the larger CAPITAL LETTERS ARE MUCH EASIER TO READ . . . . . that's why I use them.
@@keithappleton Okay I understand. As a 14 year old viewer I was a bit confused by it.👍
As a 74 year old I quite understand and agree. THANKS Keith. 👍