Nailed the comparison. Just what I needed to hear. Absolutely one of the most informative, well done, professional videos I've ever watched! Great job!
Outstanding! Hard to believe this is your first video. I’m considering replacing the original floating steps on my Winnebago Micro Minnie. Your comparison and installation information anticipated and answered all my questions. Well done bro!
Hi Chris, sounds like that when you go Lippert with the optional assist package you end up with a few spare parts. I would like to see a video on removing old steps and replacing them with storage locker. Great video, thanks.
Hey Tony! Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes you do end up with a decent amount of spare parts when it’s all said and done. As for a video on removing the old steps and replacing with a storage box, if you check out my channel I’ve had that video posted. Here’s a link you can copy and paste as well… ruclips.net/video/hoPgc5-SCE4/видео.html
Thanks Jo! I actually did a follow up video that covers the storage box. You can see it on my channel or check it out here: ruclips.net/video/hoPgc5-SCE4/видео.html
I am not sure how much better you could get, as this was an awesome presentation. Great all around info on installation at just the right pace, two thumbs up.
Great video, straight forward, simple explanations, and good shots of what you were doing. Thanks, really helped me decide on which of the two I will purchase.
That was a great first video. I definitely got a lot of information from it. And you have a great presence, easy to understand and your video editing was top notch - like you've done it a hundred times. Looking forward to more RV content from you.
Thank you for helping me decide on which step to purchase. I was trying to make a good decision due to the cost and being retired it had to be right. So keep up the great work, I subscribed and thumbs up. Looking for more to come.
Hey Dennis! Awesome to hear MORryde has also upgraded their step size. They’re definitely both great units. You really can’t go wrong with either. Thanks for checking out the video!
Great review!!! I'm a little on the accident prone side. So I spent a lot of time trying these out at 2 rv shows. The wider top step and the solid back at the top step just gave me so much more confidence going up and down. Our next rig will have the Lippert Solid Step.
Nice video. I have a Jayco with the Moryde steps, this means I have the bird etched out of the front of the top step. I have a large foot (size 9 women's) and I often kick that bird do to the shallow depth of that top step. Not fun in flip flops. Also that bird is bent and I'm sure I will cut myself one of these days. Thinking about making the chang now. TY.
Great video. Those are the 2 best options for steps stored inside, but for me I'll be going with Torklift Revolution. Same great features and stability, but no potential dirty steps in the trailer.
Nice. Yeah, I just checked those out. They look pretty cool. Wouldn’t work on our front door though, at least without a major modification, because we don’t have a cutout section available. They could definitely be an option for the back door though. But since we rarely use the back door, we swapped out our back steps for the Solid Step Storage Box which is working pretty good for our setup at the moment. Nice to know there’s another exterior step option to consider if we ever decided to switch things up down the road! Thanks for checking out the video! 🙏
Glad you found the video helpful! As for the Starship model, it’s sort of a hybrid of two things I put together. The ship is actually a 3D printed salt and pepper shaker set my wife bought me on Etsy. I glued it together permanently and then mounted it onto a 3D printed smoke cloud I had from a previous Saturn V rocket lamp. Haha. You can search “Starship SNP” on Etsy and the seller is “ExtrudedRarities”. And then search “Saturn V Rocket Lamp” if you want the exact smoke cloud.
Great job on the video. As it happens I have been looking at a step upgrade. Looks like Lippert is the winner. The only problem I have is in my older Montana there is a step well at the inside of the door. Not sure of how that will effect installation and operation.
Thanks man! Yeah, I know I’ve read a few positive reviews from others who have installed these on rigs with step wells but I’m not familiar myself with that sort of setup/install. I’d recommend emailing Lippert at customerservice@lci1.com and they should get back with you pretty quickly!
The latest morryde steps have squeeze triggers to release the feet. You set the steps where you want them, squeeze, then the legs drop into place. Very quick and easy in most cases. Our 21' flagstaff has them. So they whip the lipperts.
Nice! Yeah, I believe the new Lippert version has some sort of push button adjustment as well. I’d love to do a Lippert vs MORryde Part 2 if I can get my hands on both versions of the new steps!
Welcome to the lifestyle Alex! Glad the video is what you were looking for :) Feel free to email me anytime at atswego@gmail.com and I’ll respond anytime I get a chance. See ya around!
@@jerryshrum18 Yes these are for trailers. I’ve never had a Class A so I’m not familiar with those options. But I did quickly Google “class a rv steps” and saw a few options.
Currently we have the MORryde Step we like it but rather have the "Solid Step" basically one reason. The upper edge of the step gives you more clearance for the door to close when the ground is to elevated and you have to find a way to close the door. Which has presented itself on more then one occassion with our MORryde steps. We take delivery of our new trailer end of month but comes with large Aluminum Fold Outs; eventaully will replace with Solid Step.
Hey Julie! 1. Are you removing a set of MORryde steps from your RV? 2. When you mention box, are you referring to the rectangle mounting plate that is secured with 4 screws in my video? 3. If everything looks the same, but yours is secured with rivets rather than screws, I’d think you could possibly drill them out with a bit that is a size or two smaller than the rivet?
Nice Job in comparison. I'm replacing my MORryde also with Lippert. My reason is manufacturer only put 3 steps in my rig when 4 steps should have been installed based upon 35" height of my door threshold.
Thanks man! Yeah, I had a similar situation. Grand Design installed the 19.5” wide MORryde steps in our unit from the factory, which should have been 24” wide based on our door width. Their official position when I contacted them about it is, “it helps cut costs...” 🤷♂️
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Glad Lippert hooked you up & your review shows good info. to educate folks. Our manufacturer would not address my comment about why only 3 steps. But now they are putting the 4 step systems in place because people complained.
Great video. There is only one issue with bit if misinformation. The lipert solid step width depends on the width of the door in your rig. All steps are not 24" wide. This is specific to your door frame there are 2 or 3 different widths in the 2,3 and 4 step units.
Hey there David! I understand exactly where you’re coming from and yes, after doing some further research, it does appear that for some reason Grand Design used the 19.5” step (meant for 24” doors) instead of the 24” step (meant for 30” doors) on our 30” door! Why they would use the narrower step on a larger unit is beyond me! I just looked up the part number that should have been installed on my rig and it doesn’t match what we have. Looks like there may have been a mixup at the factory and I’m just now discovering this because of comments like yours! Thank you! At the time of making this video, I was under the impression that I was comparing the two correlating versions of the Lippert and MORryde system both meant for my specific door size of 30” wide. But instead I’ve now discovered the wrong part was installed from the factory. Ouch. I’ll be giving Grand Design a call to see if they have any further input on this. So to clarify for anyone reading this comment, everything in the video still applies EXCEPT for the width. Looks like the correct comparison would be only about a 0.5” advantage in width for Lippert vs MORryde.
Hey Mark. That’s a good question and I didn’t think to grab those measurements on the MorRyde before I did the swap. But I just measured the Solid Step and it “sticks in” about 11” from the wall. Also, at the very bottom, the Lift Assist strut “sticks in” a little more at just under 14”.
Our Keystone travel trailer came with the Lippert Solid Steps installed. I love the steps but the pins used for adjusting the height are hard to work since my hand strength is not the best. Do you or any other viewers have a better solution for these pins? I've tried finding different pins for this but I can only find the same clevis pin that I'm trying to replace. Any ideas?
Hey Nicole. I’ve thought about changing the original pins out for quick release cotterless pins with a ring on them to grab and hold on to but I haven’t actually taken the time to try finding a replacement. If I do, I’ll try Lowe’s or Home Depot first to see if I have any luck finding the right size.
Hey Juan! Great question. So Lippert’s Lift Assist kit will NOT work with MORryde’s step. If you wanted an assist feature with a StepAbove step, you’d need to upgrade to the MORyde StepAbove WITH Strut Assist.
Hey Douglas! Do you mean lowering them from the inside after the lift assist is installed? If so, that shouldn’t be very hard at all. You could simply push them outward, the strut will catch the weight, and then just push them the rest of the way down with barely any effort. Bringing them up from inside would be a little harder as you need some decent leverage to get it started. But once you’re up a few degrees the strut will kick in and it’d be easy at that point.
I want to upgrade my steps, but you don't mention here is distance from the side of the vehicle when it is parked. In the lot where my rig is stored, there is not a lot of room between rigs. With my stock steps, I can open the door and climb in without deploying steps, looks like with these if there is a building or another rig parked close, my only door is now blocked by undeployed steps.
Hey there Alan. I just measured our 4-step model and it looks like we’d need a minimum of 50” of clearance between our rig and the next in order to deploy the steps. I’d assume the 3-step and 2-step models would require less. For reference, we’d need about 33” to fully open the door. Hope that helps!
@@jredd801 Due to hoa rules at my house there is barely 40" on each side of my rv. Unless I want to pay $145 a month for offsite parking. Which BTW, also packs them in tight. $200 a month for covered with electric and room around the rv.
Lippert , why dont you build that step with a 14 inch floor height platform and then steps that will fold up ? The steps dont have to fold up into the door . They can connect to the threshold and with rollers on the step can unhook and simply roll into the RV and close the door.a hand rail can also be attached .
OLd people like camping and those steps can be dangerous . Im one of those old people that really needs a floor level platform. To take a step fown right out of the door is at best unsettling .
For our 43ft, 20k lb rig, I’d say no, not at all. I suppose it may provide some additional stabilization for a much smaller camper but I have no experience there. Good thought though 🤔
Hey Kelly. I know I’ve read a few positive reviews from those who have installed these on rigs with step wells (which is what I assume the motorhome may have?) but I’m not familiar myself with that sort of setup/install. I’d recommend emailing Lippert at customerservice@lci1.com and they should get back with you pretty quickly!
In either case, if you have a limited storage situation that does not allow for a few feel of side clearance you will not be able to get into your trailer because the stair will not be able to rotate out and down to the ground. Side clearance needs to be at least as wide as the stringer length is, + a few inches.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo We bought our first ever RV back in August. Found out real fast like that my spot at the side of my house was not wide enough for our Solid Step to come out. Cheers!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Yes, I’ve moved the transport latch to the top bracket and the bottom bracket. Door will not close. Considering taking off screen door.
@@darrenwarren1730 The transport latch should be completely beyond (inside) the threshold of your door once the steps are folded up. Does your latch completely clear the door threshold?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo My wife and I are getting a new camper next week. I can't remember what system is on the main entrance, I'll have my rubber and glue ready when we pick it up. We'll be staying 2 nights at the dealership while we transfer our stuff over since we live full time also. Safe travels to you and your family. From Charlie.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo we have a grand design 2250 RK and we have two doors. The back door is the step above unit and when you bring it down it pushes into the side of the camper. I would like to send a photo if I can figure out how to do it.
Very good and informative video Chris. My Grand Design Solitude 5th wheel came with the MORyde steps. I was pretty excited as all my previous RV’s had the folding type. This is an awesome upgrade and great concept. I’ve had a problem though with these steps, which leads me to a question for you as you’ve now experienced both the MORyde and Lippert steps. I have to store my 5th wheel at an RV storage place during the winter and the space between the rigs is quite limited. Unless the guy beside me leaves me enough room, I can’t lower the steps as they will fall down against the side wall of his trailer, which means I can’t get inside my rig. Do you know if the overall length or height (whichever way you look at it) is the same for the MORyde and Lippert steps? I hope you understand what I mean by that specific measurement. Thanks.
Hey Mike! I did measure our 4-step Lippert model and it looks like we’d need a minimum of 50” of clearance between our rig and the next in order to deploy the steps. I’d assume the 3-step and 2-step models would require less. For reference, we’d need about 33” between rigs for us to fully open the door. Unfortunately I do not have the measurements for the MORryde step as they’re currently in storage. But hopefully this helps a little!
Hey Kris. Good question and definitely something I considered. But we rarely use our back door for going in and out, plus our car takes up a good chunk of space in the garage on travel days so I wanted to leave that area as open as possible. And then dropping a little weight was also a bonus.
Not sure if you realize this but moryde offers a 24” wide step above with lift assist, I just think that Grand design used the 19.5” steps in their place.
Hey man! I did not realize that. Looking on their website, all I see is the step that looks exactly like our old ones (narrow with the old pin). Are you able to purchase the 24” step from them directly? Or do they only come installed on new rigs?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo let me clarify a couple of things, I got the 4 step above with lift assist over a year ago so it’s the wider one but not with their latest self adjusting legs, let me see if I can find the part number for that, as far as the self adjusting legs being installed on the wider step above I have to see if they have that available since those self adjusting is fairly new. Stand by
@@AroundTheSunWeGo ok so it’s the step for the 30” door. Part numbers is STP-4-30-09H, I would contact morryde to make sure it comes with the self adjusting but from what I’ve seen it does already
You were exactly right! I called Grand Design and asked them why they installed the narrow 19.5” MORryde steps (meant for 24” doors) on our larger 30” door (which should have had 24” steps). Their official position was that it helps them cut costs. Their specific reasoning was they have a few models (with 30” doors) that have clearance issues with the 24” steps when folding them into the door, so instead of stocking both 19.5” steps (for those specific units) and 24” steps (for the ones without clearance issues), they only stock 19.5” ones and put them on all units, regardless of whether a 24” wide step would work or not. So for anyone reading this comment, everything in the video still applies EXCEPT for the width. Looks like the correct comparison would be only about a 0.5” advantage in width for Lippert vs MORryde. Also, please note this video only compares the two models available on the market at the time of filming. There are apparently new models out now and looks like a Lippert vs MORryde 2.0 video may need to be produced soon!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo wider and deeper stepping. We weigh less than 200 and we are young so not worried about capacity or minor shock issue you mentioned. Would still keep the MORryde and replace the folding steps in the toy hauler room with it. Safety first.
@@PunisherOfDeath101 Cool. I was going to add our MORryde steps to the garage as well but I realized they’d be in the way when loading and unloading our Fiat, so we have them in storage for now.
Hey there. So after doing some digging, the consensus seems to be that, because truck campers have such a varying distance from bottom of door frame to ground (up to 2-3 feet of difference when the camper is loaded on the truck vs off the truck vs at a campsite), these may not be the best fit. Something more telescopic would be better. Maybe a scissor design like the Torklift Stow N’ Go?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo That was very kind of you to research and respond! Thank you! I was hopeful but also realistic that these might not be a TC option. Keep up the great content. 🌅
Just to be clear Michael, the MORryde, especially the newest version, is a very high quality product as well, and you can’t really go wrong with either one!
Hey Terry. It really depends on the model and brand. Prices range from the mid $200s for the smallest units up to $500+ for the biggest with the most features.
The MORyde people must have watched your video because they have modified the leg adjustment mechanism on their product. You just squeeze a lever and the steps drop to where you need them and you let go the lever to lock them. You can also remove them by pulling the inside hinge pins.
Hey Steve. I’ve heard of this feature being added but haven’t had the opportunity to experience it myself. Sounds like an awesome upgrade to the units though!
An updated version of this video is live now! ruclips.net/video/pvK8yzm9bhw/видео.html
This is your first video for youtube ever!? Dude.. you killed it.. great job on this!
Really appreciate that David! Yes sir. Learning as I go 😅 Thanks for giving it a watch!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Sounds like you have been doing videos as long or longer than anyone else I have ever watched. You did very good, and professional
@@ResidentialDirtWork Thanks so much :)
First video? Awesome job! Much better than many others. Keep it up.
Nailed the comparison. Just what I needed to hear. Absolutely one of the most informative, well done, professional videos I've ever watched! Great job!
Thanks a lot John! Seriously. I appreciate you checking it out.
Seriously can’t believe this is your 1st RUclips video. Looks like you’ve been doing it awhile. Great content too! Keep ‘em comin’!
I truly appreciate your kind words Sandy! I’m definitely keeping at it and my 4th video will be up soon :)
Outstanding! Hard to believe this is your first video. I’m considering replacing the original floating steps on my Winnebago Micro Minnie. Your comparison and installation information anticipated and answered all my questions. Well done bro!
Glad it was helpful Walt! An updated version of this video will be releasing very soon so make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss it :)
I agree with David Stillson! Excellent job
Thanks so much Ken! I really appreciate that!
🎉1st RUclips.🥳 Thank you. No don't have an RV yet it's great that you shared the knowledge of a better step system.
Thank YOU for checking it out Rhys! Glad you enjoyed :)
First RUclips video? Great Job! Look forward to what comes next.
I appreciate that Mike! Full tour of our 2020 397TH is coming next :)
Wow! What a debut. Excellent production quality for a noob. You really studied/prepared well.
Thank you so much :) I really appreciate it! Trying my best over here 😅 Thanks for checking it out!
Hi Chris, sounds like that when you go Lippert with the optional assist package you end up with a few spare parts. I would like to see a video on removing old steps and replacing them with storage locker. Great video, thanks.
Hey Tony! Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes you do end up with a decent amount of spare parts when it’s all said and done. As for a video on removing the old steps and replacing with a storage box, if you check out my channel I’ve had that video posted. Here’s a link you can copy and paste as well… ruclips.net/video/hoPgc5-SCE4/видео.html
Great comparison! And a VERY well done video. I would imagine your videos will begin to gain more views in short-order!
Thank you so much Sue :) I’m thrilled you enjoyed it!
Honestly I’d like to see you do a video on the lock box too. You did a great job buddy.
Thanks Jo! I actually did a follow up video that covers the storage box. You can see it on my channel or check it out here: ruclips.net/video/hoPgc5-SCE4/видео.html
I am not sure how much better you could get, as this was an awesome presentation. Great all around info on installation at just the right pace, two thumbs up.
Wow! Appreciate that Troy. Really. Tried to be as thorough and succinct as possible. Thanks for giving it a watch!
Very good information and well presented.
Good luck with your future VLOG.
Thank you Tom! I hope the video was helpful :)
Great video, straight forward, simple explanations, and good shots of what you were doing. Thanks, really helped me decide on which of the two I will purchase.
Glad you enjoyed it Bill! Happy to help!
That was a great first video. I definitely got a lot of information from it. And you have a great presence, easy to understand and your video editing was top notch - like you've done it a hundred times. Looking forward to more RV content from you.
I really appreciate that Lou! Glad you enjoyed it :)
A very clear and easy to understand presentation. The information made it clear that I will buy the Lippert .Thanks
Glad you found the video helpful Bob! Enjoy your new steps!
Thank you for helping me decide on which step to purchase. I was trying to make a good decision due to the cost and being retired it had to be right. So keep up the great work, I subscribed and thumbs up. Looking for more to come.
Hey there Marvin. I’m so glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for the like and sub :) Yes, more content coming soon!
One point is that the new Morryde steps have a larger top step. We have had both.
Very informational.
Hey Dennis! Awesome to hear MORryde has also upgraded their step size. They’re definitely both great units. You really can’t go wrong with either. Thanks for checking out the video!
Man what a fantastic first vid., awesome job.
Liked and subbed, now on to your other video
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it! And appreciate the like and sub 🙏 More to come soon!
Great job on your video; it's hard to believe it's your first. 🤙
I really appreciate that Eric! Hoping to get more comfortable from here on out :) Thanks for checking it out!
Great review!!! I'm a little on the accident prone side. So I spent a lot of time trying these out at 2 rv shows. The wider top step and the solid back at the top step just gave me so much more confidence going up and down. Our next rig will have the Lippert Solid Step.
They’re definitely a solid step, no doubt 😆 Thanks for giving the review a watch!
Outstanding job. Thanks for making this video. It addressed all the questions I needed answered to decide which way to go.
Appreciate that Lars! Glad it was helpful!
Awesome work bro. Look forward to seeing more!
Appreciate it my guy! Yes, more content is definitely coming soon. Thanks for taking the time to check it out!
Well done dude...!!! Look forward to more content from you....
Thanks a lot! Some new stuff is in the works and definitely coming soon. Appreciate you checking it out!
Great job on your first vid.
Thanks so much David! I appreciate you checking it out :)
Thanks man, great review, I really appreciate what you put together, 4 wheeled my old school steps into a wad! Time to upgrade.
Oof... But you got it man! Glad to hear the video was helpful.
Very informative and professional thanks for the information. We bought our rig with the Lippert step system and must agree these work well.
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video :) And yes, the Lippert steps are definitely a great option!
Very helpful thank you.
Would like to see more about the lockable box that would replace the old style, pullout from under the RV steps.
just bought some solid steps today. Thanks for the good video!
You got it Andrew! Thanks for checking it out :)
Nice video. I have a Jayco with the Moryde steps, this means I have the bird etched out of the front of the top step. I have a large foot (size 9 women's) and I often kick that bird do to the shallow depth of that top step. Not fun in flip flops. Also that bird is bent and I'm sure I will cut myself one of these days. Thinking about making the chang now. TY.
Bye bye bent bird!
Great video. Those are the 2 best options for steps stored inside, but for me I'll be going with Torklift Revolution. Same great features and stability, but no potential dirty steps in the trailer.
Nice. Yeah, I just checked those out. They look pretty cool. Wouldn’t work on our front door though, at least without a major modification, because we don’t have a cutout section available. They could definitely be an option for the back door though. But since we rarely use the back door, we swapped out our back steps for the Solid Step Storage Box which is working pretty good for our setup at the moment. Nice to know there’s another exterior step option to consider if we ever decided to switch things up down the road! Thanks for checking out the video! 🙏
Thanks for making the decision easy! Where can we get the SpaceX model in background? 😎
Glad you found the video helpful! As for the Starship model, it’s sort of a hybrid of two things I put together. The ship is actually a 3D printed salt and pepper shaker set my wife bought me on Etsy. I glued it together permanently and then mounted it onto a 3D printed smoke cloud I had from a previous Saturn V rocket lamp. Haha. You can search “Starship SNP” on Etsy and the seller is “ExtrudedRarities”. And then search “Saturn V Rocket Lamp” if you want the exact smoke cloud.
Bro you did great keep up the good work!!
Thanks Joe! Maybe we can make a video together one day!
I like the idea of the wider top step from lippert but I've seen the steel mount and back plate rusting on new just delivered trailers.
Yes, ideally there would be less steel and more aluminum, not only minimizing any rust issues but also reducing the overall weight.
Thank you! I’m looking at both wondering which to go with. You hit all the points I had questions.
You’re very welcome Joe! Thanks for watching :)
Great job on the video. As it happens I have been looking at a step upgrade. Looks like Lippert is the winner. The only problem I have is in my older Montana there is a step well at the inside of the door. Not sure of how that will effect installation and operation.
Thanks man! Yeah, I know I’ve read a few positive reviews from others who have installed these on rigs with step wells but I’m not familiar myself with that sort of setup/install. I’d recommend emailing Lippert at customerservice@lci1.com and they should get back with you pretty quickly!
Thanks for showing removal steps
You got it! Hope it was helpful :)
The latest morryde steps have squeeze triggers to release the feet. You set the steps where you want them, squeeze, then the legs drop into place. Very quick and easy in most cases. Our 21' flagstaff has them. So they whip the lipperts.
Nice! Yeah, I believe the new Lippert version has some sort of push button adjustment as well. I’d love to do a Lippert vs MORryde Part 2 if I can get my hands on both versions of the new steps!
New RVer here and this is exactly what I was looking for. Would love to chat about the industry one day.
Welcome to the lifestyle Alex! Glad the video is what you were looking for :) Feel free to email me anytime at atswego@gmail.com and I’ll respond anytime I get a chance. See ya around!
Looks like the steps are designed for a trailer. Do they make something for a Class A motorhome with a single door?
@@jerryshrum18 Yes these are for trailers. I’ve never had a Class A so I’m not familiar with those options. But I did quickly Google “class a rv steps” and saw a few options.
Great video, very helpful! thank you for sharing.
You got it! Glad you enjoyed :)
Currently we have the MORryde Step we like it but rather have the "Solid Step" basically one reason. The upper edge of the step gives you more clearance for the door to close when the ground is to elevated and you have to find a way to close the door. Which has presented itself on more then one occassion with our MORryde steps. We take delivery of our new trailer end of month but comes with large Aluminum Fold Outs; eventaully will replace with Solid Step.
I didn’t pay any attention to the door clearance differences when I swapped out our steps but good to know! Thanks for sharing Jesse.
On the non strut side, how did you remove that box? The screw/bolts on our side aren't actual screws, they look like rivets.
Hey Julie! 1. Are you removing a set of MORryde steps from your RV? 2. When you mention box, are you referring to the rectangle mounting plate that is secured with 4 screws in my video? 3. If everything looks the same, but yours is secured with rivets rather than screws, I’d think you could possibly drill them out with a bit that is a size or two smaller than the rivet?
Great video! Thanks for sharing
Of course Marcos! Thanks for checking it out :)
Great video, nice job on your part.
Thank you Randy! Appreciate you watching!
Nice Job in comparison. I'm replacing my MORryde also with Lippert. My reason is manufacturer only put 3 steps in my rig when 4 steps should have been installed based upon 35" height of my door threshold.
Thanks man! Yeah, I had a similar situation. Grand Design installed the 19.5” wide MORryde steps in our unit from the factory, which should have been 24” wide based on our door width. Their official position when I contacted them about it is, “it helps cut costs...” 🤷♂️
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Glad Lippert hooked you up & your review shows good info. to educate folks. Our manufacturer would not address my comment about why only 3 steps. But now they are putting the 4 step systems in place because people complained.
Great video. There is only one issue with bit if misinformation. The lipert solid step width depends on the width of the door in your rig. All steps are not 24" wide. This is specific to your door frame there are 2 or 3 different widths in the 2,3 and 4 step units.
Hey there David! I understand exactly where you’re coming from and yes, after doing some further research, it does appear that for some reason Grand Design used the 19.5” step (meant for 24” doors) instead of the 24” step (meant for 30” doors) on our 30” door! Why they would use the narrower step on a larger unit is beyond me! I just looked up the part number that should have been installed on my rig and it doesn’t match what we have. Looks like there may have been a mixup at the factory and I’m just now discovering this because of comments like yours! Thank you!
At the time of making this video, I was under the impression that I was comparing the two correlating versions of the Lippert and MORryde system both meant for my specific door size of 30” wide. But instead I’ve now discovered the wrong part was installed from the factory. Ouch. I’ll be giving Grand Design a call to see if they have any further input on this.
So to clarify for anyone reading this comment, everything in the video still applies EXCEPT for the width. Looks like the correct comparison would be only about a 0.5” advantage in width for Lippert vs MORryde.
whit your new steps installed, does the door still open and close, and seal in the same way ?
Hey there. Yes it does. No change there :)
How much does the moride weigh? Not capacity but the steps themselves. You said the lippert package as you got it weighed 165 lbs.
Hey Jonathan. Having carried both, I’d say they are of pretty similar weight. I don’t have an exact weight for the MORryde though.
Great job, how much space inside do they both take up when stowed. I also have a toy hauler and concerned about the garage area
Hey Mark. That’s a good question and I didn’t think to grab those measurements on the MorRyde before I did the swap. But I just measured the Solid Step and it “sticks in” about 11” from the wall. Also, at the very bottom, the Lift Assist strut “sticks in” a little more at just under 14”.
Our Keystone travel trailer came with the Lippert Solid Steps installed. I love the steps but the pins used for adjusting the height are hard to work since my hand strength is not the best. Do you or any other viewers have a better solution for these pins? I've tried finding different pins for this but I can only find the same clevis pin that I'm trying to replace. Any ideas?
Hey Nicole. I’ve thought about changing the original pins out for quick release cotterless pins with a ring on them to grab and hold on to but I haven’t actually taken the time to try finding a replacement. If I do, I’ll try Lowe’s or Home Depot first to see if I have any luck finding the right size.
Great job bro!!! I have the MorRyde StepAvobe steps without the lift assist... would the SolidStep work with the MorRyde StepAbove?
Hey Juan! Great question. So Lippert’s Lift Assist kit will NOT work with MORryde’s step. If you wanted an assist feature with a StepAbove step, you’d need to upgrade to the MORyde StepAbove WITH Strut Assist.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo thanks for getting back to me. Keep up the good content!!! 👍
@@juancarlos1015 You got it man! And will do! New vids dropping soon :)
Go Chris !!! Awesome dude
Finally right!? Haha. Only took me about a year to get around to the first one!
Nice review, been thinking of upgrading ,the install doesn't seem like a big deal.
Hey Joseph. Thanks for checking out the video! Yeah, the install was actually pretty simple and straightforward! Enjoy 👍
Great video. My question is: How difficult is it to lower them from the inside? I have a motorhome not a trailer, and that is the only door. Thanks!
Hey Douglas! Do you mean lowering them from the inside after the lift assist is installed? If so, that shouldn’t be very hard at all. You could simply push them outward, the strut will catch the weight, and then just push them the rest of the way down with barely any effort. Bringing them up from inside would be a little harder as you need some decent leverage to get it started. But once you’re up a few degrees the strut will kick in and it’d be easy at that point.
GREAT VIDEO!
Thank you very much! Hope it was helpful!
I want to upgrade my steps, but you don't mention here is distance from the side of the vehicle when it is parked. In the lot where my rig is stored, there is not a lot of room between rigs. With my stock steps, I can open the door and climb in without deploying steps, looks like with these if there is a building or another rig parked close, my only door is now blocked by undeployed steps.
Hey there Alan. I just measured our 4-step model and it looks like we’d need a minimum of 50” of clearance between our rig and the next in order to deploy the steps. I’d assume the 3-step and 2-step models would require less. For reference, we’d need about 33” to fully open the door. Hope that helps!
If i couldn't deploy my steps because there's another rv that close, I'd be moving asap..
@@jredd801 Due to hoa rules at my house there is barely 40" on each side of my rv. Unless I want to pay $145 a month for offsite parking. Which BTW, also packs them in tight. $200 a month for covered with electric and room around the rv.
Good job on first video
Thanks a lot Louie!
Enjoyed, you did a great job
Thanks Ron! Hope it was helpful!
Lippert , why dont you build that step with a 14 inch floor height platform and then steps that will fold up ? The steps dont have to fold up into the door . They can connect to the threshold and with rollers on the step can unhook and simply roll into the RV and close the door.a hand rail can also be attached .
OLd people like camping and those steps can be dangerous . Im one of those old people that really needs a floor level platform. To take a step fown right out of the door is at best unsettling .
Excellent job!
Appreciate that Keith! Thanks for checking it out.
Do the lippert steps give any increased stability for the camper itself?
For our 43ft, 20k lb rig, I’d say no, not at all. I suppose it may provide some additional stabilization for a much smaller camper but I have no experience there. Good thought though 🤔
@@AroundTheSunWeGo cool! I am about install a set on our 28 foot camper.
Nice! They’re definitely a sweet upgrade 👍
Great video!
Thanks James! Appreciate you checking it out :)
Can the be used on a motorhome? My parents are getting older and need this upgrade.
Hey Kelly. I know I’ve read a few positive reviews from those who have installed these on rigs with step wells (which is what I assume the motorhome may have?) but I’m not familiar myself with that sort of setup/install. I’d recommend emailing Lippert at customerservice@lci1.com and they should get back with you pretty quickly!
Really well done video. Nice job! Subscribed!
Thanks so much Steve! I really appreciate it :)
In either case, if you have a limited storage situation that does not allow for a few feel of side clearance you will not be able to get into your trailer because the stair will not be able to rotate out and down to the ground. Side clearance needs to be at least as wide as the stringer length is, + a few inches.
Definitely something to keep in mind Chupacabra!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo
We bought our first ever RV back in August. Found out real fast like that my spot at the side of my house was not wide enough for our Solid Step to come out.
Cheers!
Did you have any issues with your door closing because of the transportation latch on the Lippert? If so what was your solution.
Hey Darren. No problems on my end with that. Are you having those issues?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Yes, I’ve moved the transport latch to the top bracket and the bottom bracket. Door will not close. Considering taking off screen door.
@@darrenwarren1730 The transport latch should be completely beyond (inside) the threshold of your door once the steps are folded up. Does your latch completely clear the door threshold?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo installed per directions and watched several install videos from Lippert.
@@darrenwarren1730 Feel free to shoot me images through email if you’d like another set of eyes on it. Happy to help - atswego@gmail.com
Impressive for a first video
I appreciate that Steve!
Can we talk about why the steps are 9 ins. apart ? The rise is not standard why?
Haven’t heard about this aspect before. What’s standard?
Good information, I guess I'll be gluing a piece of rubber to the bottom of mine.
Good idea!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo My wife and I are getting a new camper next week. I can't remember what system is on the main entrance, I'll have my rubber and glue ready when we pick it up. We'll be staying 2 nights at the dealership while we transfer our stuff over since we live full time also.
Safe travels to you and your family.
From Charlie.
@@windrider65 Congrats on the new rig! We stayed at Lazy Days in Tampa a few days when we picked up our unit as well.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo we're gaining 4 feet a slide and double the insulation. Plus a 50 amp system instead of 30 amps. It should make life easier.
Can you get something like this for class a rv ?
These are more suitable for a trailer.
So how do you feel about the steps now?
Just dropped an updated version of this video here: ruclips.net/video/lhY3v1S6lAI/видео.html
@@AroundTheSunWeGo lol that's same video, I'll check your other videos.
@@BullDonkey Whoops! Here you go: ruclips.net/video/pvK8yzm9bhw/видео.html
We have the step above and it dents the rv ,, what do you suggest?
Where is it denting it? And what type of RV do you have?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo we have a grand design 2250 RK and we have two doors. The back door is the step above unit and when you bring it down it pushes into the side of the camper. I would like to send a photo if I can figure out how to do it.
@@michillekrantz5154 shoot me an email at atswego@gmail.com
Very good review !
Thanks for watching Craig!
Love our mor ride.
I hear ya! They’re definitely a quality product!
Great help, thank you!
Absolutely! Glad to be of service :)
Very good and informative video Chris. My Grand Design Solitude 5th wheel came with the MORyde steps. I was pretty excited as all my previous RV’s had the folding type. This is an awesome upgrade and great concept. I’ve had a problem though with these steps, which leads me to a question for you as you’ve now experienced both the MORyde and Lippert steps. I have to store my 5th wheel at an RV storage place during the winter and the space between the rigs is quite limited. Unless the guy beside me leaves me enough room, I can’t lower the steps as they will fall down against the side wall of his trailer, which means I can’t get inside my rig. Do you know if the overall length or height (whichever way you look at it) is the same for the MORyde and Lippert steps? I hope you understand what I mean by that specific measurement. Thanks.
Hey Mike! I did measure our 4-step Lippert model and it looks like we’d need a minimum of 50” of clearance between our rig and the next in order to deploy the steps. I’d assume the 3-step and 2-step models would require less. For reference, we’d need about 33” between rigs for us to fully open the door. Unfortunately I do not have the measurements for the MORryde step as they’re currently in storage. But hopefully this helps a little!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo Thanks Chris! No worries, I’ll measure my steps tomorrow and see if there’s a difference. I have 4 steps as well. 👍🏻
Why didn’t you just install the lippert step on your back entrance with the old folding steps ?
Hey Kris. Good question and definitely something I considered. But we rarely use our back door for going in and out, plus our car takes up a good chunk of space in the garage on travel days so I wanted to leave that area as open as possible. And then dropping a little weight was also a bonus.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo and great videos by the way. You seem like a pro already . I just stumbled across them and now subscribed
@@WalkerTexasplumber Haha. Thanks so much! Trust me. I get nervous AF making a video. Learning as I go :)
Not sure if you realize this but moryde offers a 24” wide step above with lift assist, I just think that Grand design used the 19.5” steps in their place.
And their new style step eliminates the need for that pin, it’s self adjusting
Hey man! I did not realize that. Looking on their website, all I see is the step that looks exactly like our old ones (narrow with the old pin). Are you able to purchase the 24” step from them directly? Or do they only come installed on new rigs?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo let me clarify a couple of things, I got the 4 step above with lift assist over a year ago so it’s the wider one but not with their latest self adjusting legs, let me see if I can find the part number for that, as far as the self adjusting legs being installed on the wider step above I have to see if they have that available since those self adjusting is fairly new. Stand by
@@AroundTheSunWeGo ok so it’s the step for the 30” door. Part numbers is STP-4-30-09H, I would contact morryde to make sure it comes with the self adjusting but from what I’ve seen it does already
You were exactly right! I called Grand Design and asked them why they installed the narrow 19.5” MORryde steps (meant for 24” doors) on our larger 30” door (which should have had 24” steps). Their official position was that it helps them cut costs. Their specific reasoning was they have a few models (with 30” doors) that have clearance issues with the 24” steps when folding them into the door, so instead of stocking both 19.5” steps (for those specific units) and 24” steps (for the ones without clearance issues), they only stock 19.5” ones and put them on all units, regardless of whether a 24” wide step would work or not.
So for anyone reading this comment, everything in the video still applies EXCEPT for the width. Looks like the correct comparison would be only about a 0.5” advantage in width for Lippert vs MORryde. Also, please note this video only compares the two models available on the market at the time of filming. There are apparently new models out now and looks like a Lippert vs MORryde 2.0 video may need to be produced soon!
I'll be changing out the MORryde for the lippart.
Nice. What are your main reasons for doing so?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo wider and deeper stepping. We weigh less than 200 and we are young so not worried about capacity or minor shock issue you mentioned. Would still keep the MORryde and replace the folding steps in the toy hauler room with it. Safety first.
@@PunisherOfDeath101 Cool. I was going to add our MORryde steps to the garage as well but I realized they’d be in the way when loading and unloading our Fiat, so we have them in storage for now.
awesome video, thank you
You got it! Glad it was helpful!
Will these work on truck campers?
I haven’t personally noticed any truck campers with either one of these installed but it is a great question. I’ll look into it!
Hey there. So after doing some digging, the consensus seems to be that, because truck campers have such a varying distance from bottom of door frame to ground (up to 2-3 feet of difference when the camper is loaded on the truck vs off the truck vs at a campsite), these may not be the best fit. Something more telescopic would be better. Maybe a scissor design like the Torklift Stow N’ Go?
@@AroundTheSunWeGo That was very kind of you to research and respond! Thank you! I was hopeful but also realistic that these might not be a TC option. Keep up the great content. 🌅
@@Umi-imU-We-Are-One You’re very welcome! And will do :)
Great job
Thanks Danny! Hope it was helpful.
Well designed
Agreed. Definitely pros and cons to each!
Great video
Appreciate it Terry! Glad you enjoyed it :)
What model # was the one installed?
Hey Bud! The 30” step is SKU: 791575 and the Wide Lift Assist Kit is SKU: 733939
very informative video
Glad you found it helpful Ray!
I would love to see the removal and install of the steps
@@jc8862 that starts around the 7 minute mark.
@@AroundTheSunWeGo ok thank you very much for making the videos
You’re very welcome!
Nutz, of Course I bought the wrong one. That Solid Step WINS hands down in every category but $$$, Dang!
Just to be clear Michael, the MORryde, especially the newest version, is a very high quality product as well, and you can’t really go wrong with either one!
@@AroundTheSunWeGo We already have the Moreryde and I hate the narrower top step....
Nice job bro
Appreciate it Brent!
What is the cost
Hey Terry. It really depends on the model and brand. Prices range from the mid $200s for the smallest units up to $500+ for the biggest with the most features.
well done, why not more subscribers?!
I appreciate that G! More videos to come soon :)
Newer moryde has triggers to adjust the steps
I’ve heard about that!
nice video great job
I appreciate that Manny! Thanks for watching :)
The MORyde people must have watched your video because they have modified the leg adjustment mechanism on their product. You just squeeze a lever and the steps drop to where you need them and you let go the lever to lock them. You can also remove them by pulling the inside hinge pins.
I meant the adjustable legs drop when squeezing the lever.
Hey Steve. I’ve heard of this feature being added but haven’t had the opportunity to experience it myself. Sounds like an awesome upgrade to the units though!
I wish these manufactures would adhere to the ADA standards in all step designs.
Morryde top quality
Yes, the MORryde steps are definitely a well made product and held up great throughout our months of using them!
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Much love MisterClear! Much love!
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