DRV does almost everything right! ❤ Every time I see one I am very impressed. I haven’t finished the video, but others I’ve seen had a completely covered underside, not just with cheap plastic wrap, but a fiberglass bottom! These are MEANT to be used!
I agree with you on both points. However, several major manufacturers have moved away from Schwintek slides because they are notoriously difficult to repair when they get out of alignment which is becoming all to frequent. Personally I like the looks of Schwintek but I don’t need the headaches they cause.
I guess the kitchen island would have to perform that function or adding a table next to the island could work as well. Then, you'd need some stools or chairs...
Finally a "bunkhouse" I like! Not a fan of the interior trim colors, but is still like and have honey oak in my house. I am also not a fan of graphics on my house. If I could get an rv without any graphics would be great!
I saw a video of a 2023 DRV last year and it’s pretty much the same thing this year. I love it! Love the single beds/office space. The beds have an actual mattress and not just a mat with a bear 🐻 on it lol. Very nice, thanks for sharing it!
Seen one of these last year , but had white cabinetry throughout which brightened it up ,,, and had bunks in the office . ... think i liked that one better
Interesting floor plan, but I noticed some stuff that I would critique for what I assume is a very high price. 1) Interior cabinet construction seems the same as every other mass produced RV on the road. Cabinet doors seem well built. Great comment about those trays not extending the entire depth. 2) Still have RV appliances. Yes, upgraded, but not higher end like GE Profile that we're seeing on other high end RVs. 3) Did I miss the washer/dryer or hookups? 4) Copper manifold is great, but the rest of the plumbing has plastic pex fittings. 5) I would have expected slim rack in lieu of the cable slides. I mean, I have cable on my run of the mill Keystone Cougar...
I dont 100% agree. I have crawled around these as well as lots of others when we were in our search for an RV. We also went to Elkhart and toured a few factories to see whats under the covers too. DRV is for sure well ahead of the mass produced units and its the stuff you don't see where the differences are. After those tours i have a very different opinion. There are some brands( and one that get a LOT of attention here on RUclips) that i would not buy period. 1)RE: Cabinets Those cabinets are not constructed like mass produced units. They don't use any MDF or Lumbercore anywhere in their construction. Face frames are assembled with pocket screws, not staples like a lot of them. You wont find any laminate products either anywhere. Also the materials on the drawers and shelves are thicker. for instance the drawer bottoms are 1/2" VS most others 1/4" luan bottoms, drawer sides are also 1/2" vs 3/8" and as i mentioned no MDF(aka fallaparticle board) or chipboard. The thing i think they could do better is on drawer construction. They really should dovetail them, that would be so much better. The only 5th wheel manufacturers i have seen that do it are Luxe, New Horizons and Spacecraft, all of which cost a LOT more, in some cases like a SC over double. I do agree on the trays, dumb that they don't go all the way back and they seem narrower than they should be too. As a person that has been a woodworker for all of my adult life, these cabinets while not perfect are better than most and will last which is the most important part. 2) How are these "RV appliances"? Insignia is a residential appliance brand found in many homes. I have some in my current house right now and believe it or not the insignia refrigerator we have replaced a very problematic GE Profile. It been better then the GE and way better then the Samsung i had in my old house. 3) You missed it, the prep is in the half bath, he showed it and pointed it out. 4) I agree they should use copper on all of the fittings but im sure weight is a factor here too. 5) I think they all junk when they are broken. The Slimrack and Schwintek have plenty of reported and repeated issues as well, just go read any RV forum. I also feel like the term "high price" is relative. Compared to a Luxe or NH a DRV is a lot cheaper and not that far behind in quality. To me there are the low end mass produced units like a Cougar, higher end mass produced like a Grand Design. Semi mass produced units like DRV and Riverstone and then the super high end custom units like Luxe, NH and SC. Quality and cost goes up with each tier.
Cable slides are lightweight and reliable. Its why you see them everywhere, you can use it over and over again until the wires stretch or break. Slim rack mechanisms are awful, hateful things with rails that bend, deform and break, with a weak drive system that will just eat its self when it wants to.
This is now my favorite “bunk room” rv! I have two teens & this is the first two bedroom I’ve seen that I don’t need to redesign in some way to accommodate my family! Love the washer/dryer closet in the half bath. Doesn’t take up room in either wardrobe spaces which means more storage!
Hey, JD out of all the DRVS you recently shown. I like this one the best, but for that kind of money, I'm still a big fan of the LUXE That would be my choice in that price range.
Only problem is Luxe is not in this price range. A Luxe is significantly more probably 100k or more retail, and you would need a truck bigger than a standard 1 ton dually to pull it. Luxe is commercial truck territory due to the extreme pin weights. We priced a Luxe 45FB toy hauler last year and it came in 110k higher than a similar DRV and we could have easily made that price gap even higher. We also would have needed a 5500 sized truck or bigger to pull it too, the pin weight would have been right around 5k according to Luxe with the features we wanted. They suggested a Freightliner Sportchassis which would have been another 250k+.
Mobile Suites. If you dont want to go full custom and just buy the best full time fifth wheel off a lot, Mobile Suites. Also god yes cloth covered furniture. Quiet and comfortable, never too hot or too cold.
The build quality is top notch, but the living room seemed cramped to me, and the cloth interior while probably really nice material, looked a bit cheap to me. Given that this is a DRV, I was surprised they put an Insignia TV and Refrigerator in it. I also didn’t care that it has floor vents. The master bathroom shower surround seemed cheap for a DRV. At this price point, I’d expect to see a nice tile/Granite/Marble surround. The bunk room area was very unique. I could see the desk area really being nice for kids with homework, computer gaming, etc, or even an office workspace. It would be really nice if they gave the customers a few options to configure that space. I was also surprised to see cable slides at this price. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a DRV interior that I really liked. Everything about the brand is quality, I just don’t care for their floor plans and color schemes. Perhaps I just expect to be blown away given the price. Based on this model, it looks to me like they’re trying to cut costs in certain areas. It’s a very nice rig, it’s just not for me. For the money, I’d rather buy a Forest River unit.
I never cared for DRVs because they just seem too high of a price point for what you get. Other manufacturers offer a greater value for higher quality and appearance.
@@johndoran3274 And if you crawl around under and inside all of them sorry they are not at all in the same quality class, not even close. Let’s see, chipboard floors, slide floors and roof, MDF cabinets, paper wrapped MDF everywhere, Laminated MDF counters, single pane windows, a less heavy duties frame, leaf springs, drum brakes etc etc, those are the things you will find in those brands, none of those things will be present in a DRV. The only brand on your list that comes close is Forrest river in the Riverstone Legacy line. They are built very similar and retail for similar money. I have owned a Jayce, it’s not even remotely in the same class. They start falling apart after year one and are not up to the task of full time living for sure.
JD, The bottom of the slide boxes appear to white. In the future is it possible for you to comment on the material used for the slide box floors? No more press/chip board we hope!Thanks for the great videos!
DRV told me Azdel laminated plywood on the slide floors when i asked that exact question when i toured the factory. they do not use chipboard anywhere including the floors. All real wood.
It’s so upsetting that parent companies start to make themselves known in these legendary boutique brands. They show themselves in the form of this mass produced type of quality and vibe. I’m sure DRV even so has a lot of solid dna and engineering to combat it, but still.
I think it would have been better to have double bunk beds in the bunk room, so 4 children could sleep there. Since there is quite a lot of storage in the wall surrounding the tv, as well as under the beds. The middle desk table is good but seems a bit like wasted space (empty beneath or above). I think this is in the right direction though, having functional spaces. That is for full time living. The master bedroom has tons of storage in that wall, but then no windows to see the outside (in front of the bed I mean). Everything has its price.. (speaking of which I wonder what the price of this unit is). Cheers
I am an original owner 2014 Lexington model. My cables on the upper bedroom slide are all breaking. Only one original left. Horrific to service! What really blows my mind on this new one is the decision to move the auto level controls from behind a little lockable door to outside for anybody to access and exposed to the elements. Horrible penny pinching decision....
DRV makes a great rig but this is not nice to me because the kitchen/ living room are too cramped. I go to a lot of rv parks probably at least three months a year for sure and very seldom ever do I see DRV rigs with children. It is usually couples only and usually over the age of 55. Not sure how this will sell.
Way too big to be towing it around. It needs to be parked somewhere. But at this price you can buy a modest rancher somewhere. Can you imagine the fuel to move this thing? And the anxiety trying to maneuver this?
Not a fan of people having to go into my bedroom to take a shower. Would rather see a super nice big bathroom instead of 2 or just swap the shower out of the master bedroom.
I like the front bunk room with desk but almost wish they could have done something like a Murphy desk with the capability of a 3rd bed
The hideaway table is a great idea!
DRV does almost everything right! ❤ Every time I see one I am very impressed. I haven’t finished the video, but others I’ve seen had a completely covered underside, not just with cheap plastic wrap, but a fiberglass bottom! These are MEANT to be used!
I would have loved that huge desk to be removable, so kids have a great space for playing or... yoga?
Very nice, but I am not a fan of cable slides and would expect the drawers to be dove tailed.
I agree with you on both points. However, several major manufacturers have moved away from Schwintek slides because they are notoriously difficult to repair when they get out of alignment which is becoming all to frequent. Personally I like the looks of Schwintek but I don’t need the headaches they cause.
With all the the issues I have had with cable slides I will never owner another unit with them. I know some have been lucky but never again!
Especially for the price
@@thatguy7085 you could buy a house for that price.🫢
@@loganchilcote2733 The lippert slimrack and Schwintek systems have plenty of issues too. Pick one and your probably going to have problems with it...
😮🔥what a beauty!! Desk iffers so much. Looks more like a home
Where is dining table or even dining bar?
I guess the kitchen island would have to perform that function or adding a table next to the island could work as well. Then, you'd need some stools or chairs...
I wish you would include the length and the size of the fresh, gray, and black tanks in your reviews.
I can't believe there was no dining table!
Finally a "bunkhouse" I like! Not a fan of the interior trim colors, but is still like and have honey oak in my house. I am also not a fan of graphics on my house. If I could get an rv without any graphics would be great!
I saw a video of a 2023 DRV last year and it’s pretty much the same thing this year. I love it! Love the single beds/office space. The beds have an actual mattress and not just a mat with a bear 🐻 on it lol. Very nice, thanks for sharing it!
where the heck is the table???????????
It's outside. It's called a picnic table. Lol
The wheels remind me of what you see on huge jet aircraft
What's the length?
OMG WOW AMAZING
Those wheels are sweet.
Seen one of these last year , but had white cabinetry throughout which brightened it up ,,, and had bunks in the office . ... think i liked that one better
Interesting floor plan, but I noticed some stuff that I would critique for what I assume is a very high price.
1) Interior cabinet construction seems the same as every other mass produced RV on the road. Cabinet doors seem well built. Great comment about those trays not extending the entire depth.
2) Still have RV appliances. Yes, upgraded, but not higher end like GE Profile that we're seeing on other high end RVs.
3) Did I miss the washer/dryer or hookups?
4) Copper manifold is great, but the rest of the plumbing has plastic pex fittings.
5) I would have expected slim rack in lieu of the cable slides. I mean, I have cable on my run of the mill Keystone Cougar...
I agree with everything you stated other than the appliances. GE profile appliances are simply rebranded graystone.
I dont 100% agree. I have crawled around these as well as lots of others when we were in our search for an RV. We also went to Elkhart and toured a few factories to see whats under the covers too. DRV is for sure well ahead of the mass produced units and its the stuff you don't see where the differences are. After those tours i have a very different opinion. There are some brands( and one that get a LOT of attention here on RUclips) that i would not buy period.
1)RE: Cabinets Those cabinets are not constructed like mass produced units. They don't use any MDF or Lumbercore anywhere in their construction. Face frames are assembled with pocket screws, not staples like a lot of them. You wont find any laminate products either anywhere. Also the materials on the drawers and shelves are thicker. for instance the drawer bottoms are 1/2" VS most others 1/4" luan bottoms, drawer sides are also 1/2" vs 3/8" and as i mentioned no MDF(aka fallaparticle board) or chipboard. The thing i think they could do better is on drawer construction. They really should dovetail them, that would be so much better. The only 5th wheel manufacturers i have seen that do it are Luxe, New Horizons and Spacecraft, all of which cost a LOT more, in some cases like a SC over double. I do agree on the trays, dumb that they don't go all the way back and they seem narrower than they should be too. As a person that has been a woodworker for all of my adult life, these cabinets while not perfect are better than most and will last which is the most important part.
2) How are these "RV appliances"? Insignia is a residential appliance brand found in many homes. I have some in my current house right now and believe it or not the insignia refrigerator we have replaced a very problematic GE Profile. It been better then the GE and way better then the Samsung i had in my old house.
3) You missed it, the prep is in the half bath, he showed it and pointed it out.
4) I agree they should use copper on all of the fittings but im sure weight is a factor here too.
5) I think they all junk when they are broken. The Slimrack and Schwintek have plenty of reported and repeated issues as well, just go read any RV forum.
I also feel like the term "high price" is relative. Compared to a Luxe or NH a DRV is a lot cheaper and not that far behind in quality. To me there are the low end mass produced units like a Cougar, higher end mass produced like a Grand Design. Semi mass produced units like DRV and Riverstone and then the super high end custom units like Luxe, NH and SC. Quality and cost goes up with each tier.
Cable slides are lightweight and reliable. Its why you see them everywhere, you can use it over and over again until the wires stretch or break. Slim rack mechanisms are awful, hateful things with rails that bend, deform and break, with a weak drive system that will just eat its self when it wants to.
The washer/dryer connections & closet were in the half bath!
This is now my favorite “bunk room” rv! I have two teens & this is the first two bedroom I’ve seen that I don’t need to redesign in some way to accommodate my family! Love the washer/dryer closet in the half bath. Doesn’t take up room in either wardrobe spaces which means more storage!
Hey, JD out of all the DRVS you recently shown. I like this one the best, but for that kind of money, I'm still a big fan of the LUXE That would be my choice in that price range.
Only problem is Luxe is not in this price range. A Luxe is significantly more probably 100k or more retail, and you would need a truck bigger than a standard 1 ton dually to pull it. Luxe is commercial truck territory due to the extreme pin weights.
We priced a Luxe 45FB toy hauler last year and it came in 110k higher than a similar DRV and we could have easily made that price gap even higher. We also would have needed a 5500 sized truck or bigger to pull it too, the pin weight would have been right around 5k according to Luxe with the features we wanted. They suggested a Freightliner Sportchassis which would have been another 250k+.
Mobile Suites. If you dont want to go full custom and just buy the best full time fifth wheel off a lot, Mobile Suites.
Also god yes cloth covered furniture. Quiet and comfortable, never too hot or too cold.
I've seen this one before in a higher trim level and it was 😍
Very nice. I'm not a fan of kilivingroom but forgivable because of the second bedroom.
The build quality is top notch, but the living room seemed cramped to me, and the cloth interior while probably really nice material, looked a bit cheap to me. Given that this is a DRV, I was surprised they put an Insignia TV and Refrigerator in it. I also didn’t care that it has floor vents. The master bathroom shower surround seemed cheap for a DRV. At this price point, I’d expect to see a nice tile/Granite/Marble surround.
The bunk room area was very unique. I could see the desk area really being nice for kids with homework, computer gaming, etc, or even an office workspace. It would be really nice if they gave the customers a few options to configure that space. I was also surprised to see cable slides at this price. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a DRV interior that I really liked. Everything about the brand is quality, I just don’t care for their floor plans and color schemes. Perhaps I just expect to be blown away given the price. Based on this model, it looks to me like they’re trying to cut costs in certain areas. It’s a very nice rig, it’s just not for me. For the money, I’d rather buy a Forest River unit.
I wouldn't mind a DRV Full House TH.
Fancy schmancy
We require the out door kitchen area. otherwise it is great
I never cared for DRVs because they just seem too high of a price point for what you get. Other manufacturers offer a greater value for higher quality and appearance.
Name one manufacturer that offers higher quality and appearance for less money.....
@@cheetahman859 have you actually priced one or looked at what is standard and what isnt? Something tells me you have not.
@@TDub_ADV Forest River,Keystone, Jayco,,,,,, I’m sorry, you just wanted one example, my bad.
@@johndoran3274 And if you crawl around under and inside all of them sorry they are not at all in the same quality class, not even close. Let’s see, chipboard floors, slide floors and roof, MDF cabinets, paper wrapped MDF everywhere, Laminated MDF counters, single pane windows, a less heavy duties frame, leaf springs, drum brakes etc etc, those are the things you will find in those brands, none of those things will be present in a DRV.
The only brand on your list that comes close is Forrest river in the Riverstone Legacy line. They are built very similar and retail for similar money.
I have owned a Jayce, it’s not even remotely in the same class. They start falling apart after year one and are not up to the task of full time living for sure.
JD,
The bottom of the slide boxes appear to white. In the future is it possible for you to comment on the material used for the slide box floors? No more press/chip board we hope!Thanks for the great videos!
DRV told me Azdel laminated plywood on the slide floors when i asked that exact question when i toured the factory. they do not use chipboard anywhere including the floors. All real wood.
A true heavyweight with many great features -- but I was turned off immediately by the carpet and floor vents. 😞 Lou from Georgia
How in the sam hill do you get a stackable washer/dryer in that little hole with the potty in the way!!!
No dining.
Wat model exactly is this, u can easily use the 2 bed desk as extra bed
It’s so upsetting that parent companies start to make themselves known in these legendary boutique brands. They show themselves in the form of this mass produced type of quality and vibe. I’m sure DRV even so has a lot of solid dna and engineering to combat it, but still.
You went about 100 mph on that video. I was trying to get a good look but it was too quick.
It's a 40 minute video,after editing himself out,ya get 10 minites of high speed spinnin
I think it would have been better to have double bunk beds in the bunk room, so 4 children could sleep there. Since there is quite a lot of storage in the wall surrounding the tv, as well as under the beds. The middle desk table is good but seems a bit like wasted space (empty beneath or above).
I think this is in the right direction though, having functional spaces. That is for full time living.
The master bedroom has tons of storage in that wall, but then no windows to see the outside (in front of the bed I mean). Everything has its price.. (speaking of which I wonder what the price of this unit is). Cheers
Dual ducted may mean two runs of vents
I love it. Did they let you sticker it?
No dining area other than the desk up front?
Did they let you give it a best in show? I'm interested in this RV. Was looking at the riverstone 442mc but this layout is a bit better.
Are you trying to find a riverstone 421fk???
10:30 whats the deal with the clear plastic center part on the wheel?
Outside is beautiful, the interior floor plan is a disappointment!
Like bunk house
I am an original owner 2014 Lexington model. My cables on the upper bedroom slide are all breaking. Only one original left. Horrific to service! What really blows my mind on this new one is the decision to move the auto level controls from behind a little lockable door to outside for anybody to access and exposed to the elements. Horrible penny pinching decision....
How much is it?
For such a expensive and well branded rv manufacturer I feel they always fall short with interior style
Floor vents and cable slides? Get outta here
DRV makes a great rig but this is not nice to me because the kitchen/ living room are too cramped. I go to a lot of rv parks probably at least three months a year for sure and very seldom ever do I see DRV rigs with children. It is usually couples only and usually over the age of 55. Not sure how this will sell.
In my opinion the living area is too small and cramped
I thought the same thing! The whole living and kitchen area seemed cramped to me!
My ford ranger can pull that.
Game changing? Yeah no.
I don’t know how anyone would think this is a good lay out.
Not a fan. How many young families can afford a DRV?
Its hard to get excited about a nice floor plan when you have absolutely no idea what it costs.
I keep waiting for you to post a vid proclaiming THIS IS CRAP!! And put a turd sticker on it.
Way too big to be towing it around. It needs to be parked somewhere. But at this price you can buy a modest rancher somewhere. Can you imagine the fuel to move this thing? And the anxiety trying to maneuver this?
Floor plan 8/10. Construction 5/10. Value 6/10. I would not consider this to be a luxury trailer. Size is nice, but construction is very poor.
Not a fan of people having to go into my bedroom to take a shower. Would rather see a super nice big bathroom instead of 2 or just swap the shower out of the master bedroom.
Ugly furniture in front. You never mentioned how big it is. No headboard in master.