James MacDonald Charged With Felony Assault
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Curious? Have you spoken to ANYONE who actually was on staff at Harvest Bible Chapel to really get both sides of the story? Or have you only spoken to James and read Julie's articles?
If you haven't, you are missing the whole story. Both of them have an axe to grind and only tell the story from their perspective.
And for what it's worth, Julie's story is drastically closer to the truth than what James says.
I’m happy to speak to anyone. I think the church may be reluctant to speak on the matter and, oddly enough, when I asked Julie to dialogue about her findings she was completely closed off to any kind of interaction. James was more than willing to tell his side. Make of that what you will.
Julie largely reported on what MacDonald put on his own Twitter Feed. His own words, the evil that came from his own heart out of his own mouth, was what she gave light and a larger platform to. Truth.
Because he's a smooth talker ,
Discernment?
As a medical professional who has treated many facial trauma victims as well as one quite familiar with PTSD and anxiety disorders, this may be the most implausible story/explanation that I have ever heard.
I smell a community college PTSD expert. FYI, most experts aren’t dishing out their medical opinions in the comment section on RUclips for a reason.
I would have to agree. Most professionals would not comment on particular motives. It’s disingenuous to share credentials juxtaposing credibility. The facts need to come forth.
@@IndieThinker A veiled ad hominem attack.
I used to watch pastor james all the time as a teenager and really, all through my younger adult life.. i watch his videos constantly even today.. ive always appreciated that his sermons taught out of God's Word, not just what he thought or felt about the topic.. he was always reading scripture and citing scripture throughout the messages.. something alot of churches arent doing today.. im not here to defend his character.. John 2:24 "But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men".. men are flawed.. all of us are! Im only here because God's mercy is new everyday.. because Christ's blood atoned for my sin.. i try to show grace and mercy to others because God has shown it to me..
Um… so PTSD made him black out and fall on her … after his truck hit her car… with a gun in his vehicle that had previously been reported as stolen… and the “fall” was so severe she had to be hospitalized… and the police wrongly determined it to be felony assault? Dude…
Just sharing my anonymous source, dude. That’s what honest brokers do. They try to give information that’s available to them rather than just tell one side. More importantly I find it hard to believe too, but that’s not the point. The point is you don’t know what happened, only the people present do. That means a little humility is in order as we sort through what we know and think we know. Thankfully we have a Justice system that helps people go beyond conjecture and accusation. When facts are presented then judgement becomes permissible.
@@IndieThinker we live in a country where someone is innocent until proven guilty.
As an independent thinker, I would hope that you would want to tell both sides of the story.
I am wondering why you removed my post of what was stated on Facebook by the city of Coronado Police Department?
@@marianneshovan5867 RUclips does it automatically and for some reason they flagged your post. I saw it and actually thought it was very thoughtful. You had good questions and you had very little judgment on what you couldn’t possibly know. Well done. But i have to add, it is a little silly to think that even if I did delete your comment that i would be censoring free access to the internet. Anyone can see the police report, it’s online. Few offered the info I did to truly tell the other side.
@@IndieThinker THANK YOU for that clarification! With God as my witness, I pray for James often.
BTW I never said you were censoring free access to the Internet. I agree - That would be silly! But comments are removed all the time - perhaps not by you, but others.
The post from the PD is not easy to find, unless you know where to look and it is not from an anonymous source. Perhaps few offered the other side because they were not contacted by an anonymous source.
@@marianneshovan5867 could be. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Oh, jokes about kiddie porn are ok? That’s just weird!
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Omg! This guy is the personification of gaslighting!!!
“Before being judgmental you have to know what happened…” There are police reports about this incident that are public record!
I truly admired James MacDonald and listened him on the radio every day for years. But his behavior is despicable!!!
I left my full time job at a major Christian ministry after 13 years disgusted with the amount of wolves in sheep skin that misuse their position of authority.
James’ fruits are showing the world that he’s not walking the walk.
How about caring for the lady that was sent to the hospital bu this BULLY?! NO ONE has even cared about her well being because it’s more important to protect the testimony of this lame, pathetic individual! URGH!
Well said / I 2 was a big listener , but I started to see things that were not of the Holy / he got to big for him to stay humble
I was one who took my family to this church when it was so small . Now ? I’m back to catholic. These men really are corrupt ! I’m so sorry for him . But I should’ve never left my true faith . May he find peace . Protestants come back to your home . The catholic faith is waiting for you . I’m so happy I got back . These guys are all clowns taking your money 😮
You are following religion. Follow JESUS. With respect and blessings
The catholic church teaches works based salvation. That's not the gospel. The pope doesn't even know what he is talking about. Your lost if you went back
Julie is not heretical whatsoever & was only doing her job ! The truth hurts, read what the church elders had to say & if they were wrong, James could have brought a wrongful termination lawsuit & won ! You don't resign anything because your doing everything right !!!
I mean, there was a number of videos of former members of his church attesting to his anger issues and unchristian behavior. He is a phenomenal Bible teacher, but it sure seems like he struggles at being a good human being. You might say "don't we all" but "let not many of you become teachers" according to scripture. As a pastor, i understand that my actions will be under a higher scrutiny than others and i know that the same judgment i have for James will be measured back to me. But i am not a victim in this life, and i don't believe James is either.
Your channel would be more honestly portrayed if you changed its name from Indie Thinker to James MacDonald Apologist.
I was a follower of James MacDonald. I can honestly say that his teachings helped grow my faith and understanding of God’s Word immensely. When he was fired(?) by the elders, plus everything else that came out, I was confused. I felt let down. However, through all of this I learned a very valuable lesson: He is a man - very capable of buckling under pressure, of sinning, of being as pathetically human and imperfect as I am. David dared NOT lay a finger on God’s anointed. And David, a man after God’s own heart… how great was his fall! There is a better chance at healing all around if the truth is spoken, whatever that may be. If he messed-up, he should own it. Those who want to protect him shouldn’t make videos about whatever happened . It only fuels the flames. I had NO idea about “this” incident ‘til just now. We follow Christ. God bless.
I totally agree! Humility puts others above ourselves. Especially applicable to James. Putting him above our natural inclination!
True.
The question I would ask is, does James have other Pastors that are proven according to the Scriptures that he is accountable to or is he a Rogue not willing to submit First to The Scriptures and then to the Body of Christ leaders ie Pastors.
Stop covering for him….
So, a year plus later and this case has gone no-where mainly because of the “mental health” claims of JM’s side (which can be hard, if not impossible to prove or disprove.
With that being said, biblical teachers are supposed to be “above reproach” and MacDonald has managed to find himself in the middle of a bunch of scandals for someone who is supposed to be “above reproach”. The fact there are Christian AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM who find the claims to be trustworthy should speak volumes about the entire situation and about JM’s character
I am troubled trying to understand just why James is trying so hard to clear his name. Is it that he cares too much about what people think of him and not enough of what our Lord thinks? It will matter only at the bema seat.
As Christians we are to exercise John 7 judgment, not Matthew 7 judgment.
I wouldn't call that a joke, I would call that a poor character. I hope James takes what The Spirit said in Revelstion 20 seriously about God having Books. God takes deception Very Seriously and so should we because that is the nature of Satan. These things that keep coming up are evidence of his poor character.
Why do you need Nuance when we have Gods Word and The Holy Spirit. You need to read Revelation 22;18-19
Your exactly right 💯 % but guess what, by God's Amazing Grace, the Lord led me away from the seeker sensative movement & all the crazy nonsense cultural movements after I raised holy cain about women as preachers & over men in church ! ( 1st Timothy 2:12 ) I wasn't kicked out but I was dismissed from my usher position of 7 years, I took a year off & never went back to church except for prayer on Saturday mornings so I fully understand the PTSD & trauma with having lost my parents, marriage & kids 😢😢😢😢😢 & the church
How much PTSD do you think James MacDonald's victims suffer from after accepting years of abuse from him in his position of authority over them?
This is called fruit inspection, Jesus said you'll know a tree by the fruit it bares
One should forgive him and help him get back to the gospel
Do you realize you yourself will give an account to Christ for not rightly dividing the word of God? Do you really think God is going to say oh its OK that you taught a different gospel and had character problems, come on in to my kingdom. If you think that when you take your last breath your going to be like the guy in Matthew 7,21...
LOL. That’s silly
I’ve met James and interviewed him several times. I went to his Bible study by Judson College about 1.5 years ago. His deportment was one who had been through hell. I don’t think (nor would he say this) that he would deny he is a sinner and flawed. I can not imagine the pressure of running a huge ministry. I want to hear all the facts and the video evidence. It prevents me from my sinful inclination. Julie Roys is heretical and when you show her duplicity as I have (not attacking her, but her substance). She just blocks you or refuses to post your comments.
How is she a heretic.?
@@PB_324 She's not an apologist for white male privilege and patriarchy in the evangelical church, and she points out how the yawning gulf between the public facade and public preaching of these so-called pastor / hypocrites and their actual behavior. Over and over and over. And, she won't be silenced. There is the heresy.
You want all the facts and evidence first (apparently just when it comes to people you admire); yet, you say, “Julie Roys is heretical…” without having said facts or evidence
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