Chris Miller - US-China Chip War: What Could Go Wrong? | Endgame
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Chris Miller and Gita Wirjawan discuss the technological competition between the US and China, with a focus on the chip industry. The conversation highlights Europe's approach to tech, the impact of the US uniting its allies for military and technological containment of China, and the potential risks of China's response. Finally, they also touch on the importance of creating global stability and security in advancing chip technology as the backbone of modern society.
About the Guest:
Professor Christopher Miller is an associate professor at the Fletcher School at Tufts University and a nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He is the author the bestselling book, "Chip War: The Fight for the World’s Most Critical Technology” (2022) and serves on the Geopolitics Advisory Council at McKinsey & Company.
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Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022-2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.
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Content:
00:00 - Intro
02:51 - Miller's Academic Background
04:05 - 'Chip War'
09:39 - China & Taiwan vs US
29:58 - India & Southeast Asia
35:15 - Europe
40:06 - Energy Efficiency
43:11 - Risk
These are some of my opinions on the dialogue which was quite prominent regarding Chris Miller's statement which seemed to be trying to build a strong image of the USA over the tension of the "chip war" between America and China.
1. At minute 11:32, Chris Miller said that China and the US are not single players in terms of global chip production and that is true because in reality chip production and distribution involves several countries involved in terms of the global supply chain.
2. At minute 13:45, Chris Miller argues that China is too confident in controlling chip production globally because it seems as if he is still "standing firm" that America remains the market leader in terms of semiconductor innovation and production. What cannot be denied is that China has been rapidly advancing its capabilities in recent years. This has led to concerns in the U.S. about intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers, and the potential for China to surpass the U.S. in semiconductor manufacturing and design.
Indeed, it's unlikely that the United States would readily accept China controlling the scale of semiconductor manufacturing, especially given the strategic importance of this technology. The semiconductor industry is not just about producing consumer electronics; it underpins critical infrastructure, defense systems, and emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and autonomous vehicles.
If China were to dominate semiconductor manufacturing, it could potentially wield significant influence over global supply chains, technology standards, and innovation, which would have implications for national security and economic competitiveness.
This is just part of my opinion on the dialogue between the two of them because I haven't finished watching it until the end of the video. Maybe I'll update it later.🙏🙏
i don't see china dominating anything.. that's not china.. china will always move at its own pace.. they don't wanna control but they also don't want to be controlled..
to comment on your second point, "Miller argues that China is too confident in controlling chip production globally.." well, the largest chip market in the world is in china.. it doesn't matter who produces more, if no one buys it.. if the US don't sell in china then they will lose in china.. janet yellen and blinken threaten china for their "overcapacity", while in reality, china is just supplying their own market.. what the US wanted is to control chinese chip market.. they can't.. they won't be able too.. there's a reason why china is the only ancient civilization left standing.. they wont yield..
And it's also out of US hands. Since US has pretty much sanctioned close to whatever they can, the path is already decided. Writing is already on the wall.
@@henli-rw5dw Exactly. America thought that China would beg like a donkey when they launched a barrage of trade sanctions but in reality Xi was like saying "Hold my chopsticks".
Chris Miller seems to defend for the US's hegemony, skipping questions that the US has flaws in. I changed my mind of buying his book after this interview.
The same thought after I heard the statement regarding the dialogue between the two of them.
That is an inherent limitation of a scholar with bigotry and bias, no matter how seasoned or young it is.
Correct, another clueless pundit !
Nowadays, who is that interested in buying a thick book? Being honest, I'm even not interested in having a book for free from the writer because I don't have that much time and interest to read it.
The timely publication of his books suggests that he is merely a fraudulent academic, creating content based on hype. He cited the dollar value as one of the reasons for not conducting chip manufacturing on the mainland. I follow the Asianometry channel, where an engineer comprehends the process and its economics. I can confidently assert that this Chris individual never studied any genuine subjects; instead, he focused on what has the highest hype value.
Yes US sale man.
Curious that your expert guest speaker is uninformed that he believes “both sides” want a stable competitive relationship. Our US pivot against China has been articulated an explicitly offensive goal of preventing fair competition and limiting China’s per capita GDP to a fraction of our per capita GDP.
Given a U.S. president declaring China’s GDP will not surpass our US GDP the math is clear. China has a population more than 4 times our population. This is an explicit goal of preventing China’s population reaching the same standard of living we enjoy.
Our government is trying to strangle China’s economy and prevent their technological advancement. This is the opposite of a stable competitive relationship.
Does really think our government is so stupid they don’t realize they are pursuing a strategic agenda hostile to China’s sovereignty?
Either your guest is disingenuous or they are not competent in their application of basic logic in their analysis.
This young academic seems more intelligent than that.
GDP is just one method of measuring wealth, but not the best. China's GDP(PPP) has already surpassed the US's since 2013 ! A more simple method is which people are more happy and content and hope for the future and I can tell you that it's not the American people ! ...LoL
Wait and see is all I can say. Never underestimate anyone.
Did Chris forgot that the rare earths used for advance chips, tech and military weaponry also 65% is produced, 85% processed in China?
China with BRI projects funds and teach workers to not just produce raw material but process it, for example: Morowali Industrial Park
He forgets a lot of things, honestly. He's also got the same old racist western imperialist mindset that thinks scholarship = lived experience. Academics in the US know that they will only sell books, get on media, and make money if they churn out little neo-liberal clones of themselves.
More like 95% !
The West knows how to mine. It was mining rare earths long before China. Doing what was done before is easy. By comparison, doing what has never been done before, like ASML, is hard. China faces the hard task.
@@kreek22 Mining and processing is 2 different thing.
most rare earth metals need to be processed before being able to be used for advanced tech manufacturing. China dominates the processing on global output.
Last time i heard when Huawei was banned to use advanced chips, lots of China Watchers said the company is dead.
Now Gina Raimondo is coping and became a meme when Huawei released new smartphone with home made own made chip. Granted its still using the old lithography method and chip size is still big. But thats happened in 3 years time, so SMIC has potential to develop smaller chips in the next few years. Take it 3-5 years to catch up to current TSMC tech, 10 years probably already surpass it.
I'm not sure Chris. Has Miller ever traveled to China? When? And if so, how seriously has he studied China? Or just read the newspaper or listen to the news on television. I have been following technological developments for a long time. and travel to many countries frequently including China I can tell you that In many areas of technology, China is already ahead of Western countries. In terms of semiconductor production, China should take a few years to catch up with the West. By that time, people around the world will be able to use cheap, good-quality products.
I wonder how much a scholar about the Soviet union know about chips and high tech.... He talks about India , China, Taiwan, Southeast Asia,.. has he been there? I heard he went for the first time to Taiwan when he went to promote his book!
This guy is clueless. Both on semiconductors and Asia. He claims India is the next destination for semiconductors. For anyone who has been to India and the other Asia counties: really? 😂
The chip making industry especially in fabrication is notoriously cyclical with US and European manufacturers going out of business in past decades because of repeated overproduction and loss making. What will all these new chip plants in the US, Europe, Japan and China inevitably produce? Obviously overproduction, falling chip prices and bankruptcies. This will be worst in the US where costs are highest versus the falling chip prices.
Meanwhile, China will be best placed to weather the storm given that it is the largest chip market and has the most interventionist government support and the deepest pockets.
One other thing, Chris Miller gave highly inaccurate global GDP figures. The Western economies do not account for 70% of global GDP. This is especially true in terms of chip demand. China alone accounts for around 40% of world demand and if you include the non western world you are probably talking about 60% of global chip demand and rising.
Last but not least, given that legacy foundational chips account for 80% of chilp demand and that China now has the capacity for producing such chips we are beginning to see China emerge as a key producer of such chips. China will take this world market by the end of this decade with all the economic and technological implications this entails. Its competitors will not be able to withstand such an onslaught unless they become increasingly smaller protectionist tech backwaters.
Just to add, all the other foundaries will go bankrupt (hence why the industry outsourced production to TSMC in the first place). But with Chiba’s 80% production of legacy chips…there wont be anymore cashflow or profit margins for TSMC to maintain R&D….hence long term, China will be the last man standing. America can just kiss goodbye to us$50B. taiwan are chinese…the people arent dumb, they wont be showing America how to make anything properly in those foundaries -- otherwise Taiwan loses it’s edge and existence. ROFL
The issue is that there is no return path. Once trust is broken you can only double down as china will not rely on US supply chain.
The US is interventionist when necessary. They had the highest tariffs in the world in the nineteenth century--and entered the twentieth with the world's most powerful economy. In the chips business, intervention has become necessary. The basic plan is obviously to take the current lead in cutting edge chips, apply them to AI, and use AI to extend the lead. They've finally realized that they don't want a country as angry as China to become the world leader. India will be the next major growth story as China is slowly isolated to take out its anger on itself, as it has so many times in history.
Chris Miller is very clear US spokesman
You're the second copy and pasted comment saying the same thing. Tell your other VPN hopping Chinese wuamos not to repeat the same comments. We can clearly see the flooding of CCP talking point comments in the section more so when you all don't bother to be different.
@@GoGoPooerRangers nope.... I am real person. and I am not China mainland spokesman. So I am not being subjective
China imports more chips because China assembles most of the world's consumer electronics, which require billions of chips. If China was not the factory, China would not import so many chips at all!
You seem to forget the needs of 1.3 billion people 😂
It was more cost-effective for China to purchase reliable Western chips, benefiting both sides. China spends more on chip imports than on oil. The US sanctions forced China to develop its domestic supply chain. When self-sufficient, China can provide the world with more affordable chips.
The US and its allies are developing their own supply chain, but it cannot be competitive without access to a large market. The US is sparing no effort in its Tonya Harding competition strategy. The Chinese are very grateful to the US for pushing them towards self-sufficiency. Thanks to the US, China now has its own GPS system and space program. The US chips sanction is converting its biggest chips customer to be its biggest competitor. More sanctions, please.
China just wants to benefit the world, not itself. This is why China produces more pollution than any other nation on earth--so much pollution that Chinese women don't want to have children anymore. Maybe all the poison prevents them from having children.
ASML is 12 years ahead of China. Unless they steal ASML technology, China will take a long time just to reach where ASML is today. But, by that time ASML will have moved to the next level. Without theft, China will take at least 20-30 years to catch ASML. What will American AI, built with chips from ASML-supplied factories, look like by then? China is far behind in the great techno revolution of our time: AI.
Sorry, but Chris did not add anything new, when the topic is China. He just regurgitates the same tired US talking points. Japan is militarizing, blame 🇨🇳. Tensions in South China Sea, blame 🇨🇳. Chris like most American’s refuse to acknowledge US negative rolls. 😂🤣
This is why he gets toured around in the media. He toes the same racist western exceptionalism narrative that the state departments wants to amplify.
you can fill in all the shit talking about the US on your own, now is the time to choose camp. Seems like China is in a stage where they are about to be the next Japan when the US shorting JP yen era.
Chris Miller is clearly US spokesman
Great interview and discussion as always, thanks for sharing with us!
Miller, an associate professor of international history at TU University, emphasizes the uncertainty surrounding technological development and the risks of miscalculation on both sides. Taiwan's pivotal role in semiconductor production and its susceptibility to geopolitical crises underscore the fragility of global supply chains.
The conversation delves into the intricacies of chip manufacturing, talent development, and the evolving dynamics of global trade and investment, with particular attention to China's aspirations and the challenges it faces. Miller suggests that while China is catching up, the US still holds a significant advantage in chip technology, but the stakes are high for global prosperity and stability amidst these geopolitical tensions.
主持人一直給他機會，他卻一再暴露他的偏狹無知，他毀了他自己 !!
他不過是個zhongZuQiShi的白人。自以爲是。假裝是中立的學者，其實跟個蘇格蘭人叫做Niall Ferguson的，是同類的生物。他們兩隻都是裝模做樣，擺著架勢，其實就是穿西裝的四脚獸。
先做出他想要的結論，然後再瞎掰理由，設法去圓它。先射箭，然後再在箭落之處，畫出靶圖。好似射箭射得很準，正中紅心。
Over production of chips is very likely the undesirable outcome of chip technology restriction in a few years if not in the coming decade.
…same Chris Miller who turned out totally wrong abt predicting China’s chip production ability…Hauwei latest 5nm….Chris said it woyld take 10yrs for China to produce. American experts….Sounds smart…but not much there hence why America is in a tangle in every place and policy. .
Besides the technology, i think who owns the raw material for chip production is quite important
No, because raw material to make this chip is easy to got, it just silicon and it come from silica sand as same as raw material to make some glass, i think every country have silica sand on their place, CMIIW
@@maulanamahdi7677Easy to get, but difficult to process.
If it's really that easy, Indonesia would have been rich from decades ago.
@@cungcung5042 Bruh I know it, I just reply to this comment and I have as same as your thought, I think you got misunderstanding what I am said. Yes of course its difficult, so as mentioned on video and all videos related on semiconductor the main challenge is in process or manufacturing (the machine) not the materials, I think everyone have aware about this
Silicone wafers ?🤣🤣🤣
End of the day, people need to understand, He, Mr Miller, No1, is a book seller; No 2, is a PhD in history, not science or technology, which means, he might have read a lot, but with little systematic training over science and technology; No3, is created as the mouthpiece, for whom?, you figure it out. Therefore his talks or speeches are always insinuating something tilting toward American superiority and exceptionalism.
Tiongkok sudah selalu menegaskan bahwa tiongkok ingin hidup damai dengan semua negara untuk bersama menuju kemakmuran tetapi usa selau ingin menjatuhkan negara yang tidak menurut perintah dan mencari kemakmuran bagi diri nya sendiri dan inilah pandangan dan politik strategis jangka pendek dan jangka panjang yang pada hakekat nya sangat berbeda dan bertentangan karena dimana ada usa disitu ada perang tetapi dimana tiongkok berada disitu ada damai dan kerja sama ekonomi menuju kemakmuran bersama jadi pilih yang mana terserah negara pengikut dua raksasa ekonomi tersebut
Jangan lah selalu membaca dan mendengar berita dari barat saja karena bisa membuat pengambil keputusan dan pandangan yang sepihak melihat kejadian di dunia baca juga berita dari pihak yang tidak dikelola oleh media barat
Thank you sir, for the knowledge 🙏
Knowledge what? Basically just usual Bullsh*t from western narrative, awful source.
Pak gita, saya baru selesai nonton video tentang jalan panjang dan sunyi saintis dan saya makin tergerak untuk ikut ambil andil dalam memajukan pendidikan bahkan indonesia secara umum. Saya kagum bagaimana pak gita membangun narasi dan terjun bebas untuk fokus tentang pendidikan Indonesia, dari sini saya memiliki pandangan besar bahwa sistem pendidikan di Indonesia sudah tidak lagi relevan jika mengacu pada kemajuan dan peradaban teknologi sains hari ini. Dengan cara yang paling sederhana, teknologi memungkinkan manusia belajar melampaui pengetahuan dan pemahaman guru dalam pendidikan. Selain masalah minat dan etika, saya tidak menemukan relevansi yang serius dalam tenaga pendidik kita hari ini. Sehingga diskusinya kemudian pada tataran emosi individu, sayapunya pandangan personal tentang masalah ini.
Mungkin saya mau memulai dari daerah saya di NTB yang masih membuat pernikahan sebagai tujuan akhir perjalanan kehidupan mereka, ini membuat minat mereka terhadap pengetahuan lemah
Karena emosi mereka tarpaut pada orientasu pernikahan, kemudian pertanyaannya adalah kenapa pemuda NTB berorientasi kepada pernikahan, simpelnya bisa dijawab dengan kultur dan budaya yang melekat di masyarakat. Tapi saya memiliki pandangan yang berbeda bahwa pemerintah tidak hadir memenuhi hasrat kebutuhan hormon kebahagiaan mereka sehingga masyarakat cendrung betorientasi mencari alternatif kebahagiaan melalui pernikahan.
Asumsi saya adalah jika kebutuhan dasar dalam kebahagiaan semisal banyak fasilitas pendukung yang diberikan, tingkat ekonomi yang memadai, maka banyak komunitas yang lahir untuk melakukan dialektika tentang apa yang mereka sukai.
Kita tau bahwa minat dan bakat adalah kunci dasar yang paling penting dalam pendidikan, dan pendidikan formal tidak memberikan hal demikian. Maka, perubahan mesti mulai dari kegiatan-kegiatan kelompok masyarakat yang dilandasi oleh minat dan bakat mereka.
Saya punya asumsi besar tentang pendidikan dan saya tidak terfasilitasi untuk ikut serta dalam membangun pendidikan.
Karnena saya menemukan masalah yang kompleks pada manusia dan tidak bisa di generalisasi, terutama untuk SDM di pedesaan yang jauh dari akses teknologi. Ada banyak SDM potensial yang tidak emiliki fasilitas dan jauh dari jangkauan kemajuan yang mesti di rangkul terlebih dahulu
kalau orang seperati chris miller yang member nasihat kepada pemimpin usa, ia hanya akan mengukuhkan sikap keyakinan berlebihan dan puas hati di sana. keyakinan yang berlebihan, kepuasan diri atau kesombongan yang timbul daripada kejayaan akan membuatkan tidak menyedari ancaman di masa hadapan kerana terikat pada sejarah lama. negara lain sebaliknya mengetahui batasan semasa dan ketidaktentuan struktur perdaganagan semasa akan berusaha merancang berinovasi dan mencipta
@44:20 Need for infrastructure on a massive scale… you mean like China’s BRI which is already building energy infrastructure?
Energy infrastructure is just as important as renewable energy in managing the climate change crisis.
As a Harvard alumnus I’m disappointed at the lack of contextual fact for this discussion. Omitting data can invalidate an analysis just as well as false data.
One assumes an honorarium for the guest speaker: Misfeasance or Malfeasance?
There is one unknown factor and that is new technology to replace classical chips，such as quantum technology.
Manusia benar² membingungkan, mereka bisa membuat kedamaian abadi tapi sebagian lebih memilih merenggut segalanya 😂.
"Belajar lah sampai ke negri china" is clearly a thing now
So if not the engineering talent is required to have the advanced manufacturing, then does the history degree like yours is more beneficial?
he hegemonic thinking of the United States has caused the current international situation, and the United States has formed a clique in Asia to build a large number of military bases with the purpose of containing China and creating tension in Asia. The US conducts a lot of military exercises near China. Asia would be better off if the US withdrew from the region. The chip war was started by the US, not a Sino-US competition.
Didn’t hear anything new in this interview other than the usual western MSM talking points. Prof. Wong was clearly more knowledgeable and had better insights. Don’t think I’ll be buying his book.
at least his book has quite many histories and stories. As well as the current status of the semiconductor industry. Recommend to read for layman if you are not in that industry.
@@josephzhang1797 er.. er.. better to buy book from Intel CEO or ASML or TSMC or Huawei. .. thoes elites know much better, I do not read chip supply chain books written by lawyers or artists.
@@josephzhang1797 這人的書，唯一價值就是把舊有資料收集一起。
The fact that you resort to calling at talking points instead of facts which they were says more about you and your bias. Also ironically in this western app. 🤡
definitely
Luar biasa 🔥
Does Chris Miller know anything about technology industry and chip? Has he ever been to China? Did he know any Asian engineering students when he was in the university? Could he see China is exporting more chips and importing less? Could he see Huawei has overcome most of the technology sanctions? Perhaps we will never see the TSMC fabs in Arizona operates in the near future.
At us$20B in foundry upgrade of investment a year….rofl…now you know why so many foundries closed down abt 10yrs ago and left the manufacturing market to TSMC. As for america’s chip attempts…notice Chris kept saying years down the track we will have trained up the talent to the point of IRRELEVANCY. And the point he missed was…..the only workers they will be able to find are CHINESE STEM graduates to run the American foundries….but with the MacArthyism going on in America (euphamism for racism) I guess those foundries will be a bit empty for a while….this Chip Act thing is not making much sense…Taiwan is laughing financially and politically all the way to the bank.
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Thanks for your support🙏🏼
Apakah endgame sudah nggak mengundang narasumber dalam negeri lagi???
China will have better chips, and it will be graphene and quantum chips.
What Chris misses is that China let Taiwan produce chips for China…when Taiwan decided to hand over confidential company chip demand and production orders to America Congress….China said we need to make our own chips. So China actually has put strategic effort into the chip production process…so China will make leaps and bounds in this area. China puts shoulder to the stone and WILL DELIVER.
Miller's book about chip war is starting to be obsolete. His timeline prediction proven not to be accurate.
Kok tidak ada terjemahan Indonesia Pak?
It's just translated Indonesian Bahasa to English
The main problem is the value of the currency, you outsource to Taiwan and China because of cheap wages. you can produce but who will buy it?
to compete you must import cheap labour from asian country to work in the US 😂
13:50 So explain to the world Mr. Miller what your time frame is? The gap is 100mi. When the shooting starts, if China somehow fails at expelling the US from the Republic Of China, what next? The mainland just gives up, oh well. Its 100mi, with a country 5 times the size of the US, the #1 manufacturer in the world, with its own GPS constellation and space station. Oh well, great try boys, you gave it your best. Please.... if they fail once, twice, three times... what is your time frame Mr. Miller? Just how much staying power does a country $50 trillion in debt really have?
You don't know how difficult it is to reinvent the EUV. I'd say it's probably easier to invade Taiwan than building an EUV from scratch.
@@mesavorIf you watch Mr. Gita Wirjawan's previous podcast with Prof. Wong, he'll tell you that the key to success in tech development is pool of talents. Today, China has vast pool of talents in STEM & has been most productive in releasing research papers. China also have been biggest spender in R&D and they have the high tech industrial infrastructure.
If they can build spacestation, what's the odd for them to finally have ASML's EUV machine reverse-engineered in the next few years ?
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SE Asia has 2000 years of peace and stability? Lololol!! Wth man?? 😂
Chris Miller says India is THE next destination for semiconductors? Haha…OK, this guy knows nothing 😂
Us Spoke Man, make Us always No.1 for the tecnology , fact today china no 1 production more innovation, simple and cheap
18:30
old story.
china will dominate old tech chip in 3 years. locsl chip production up 40% in Q1 2024.
70% chip are old tech.
AI akan merajalela di masa depan dan komponen utamanya adalah Chip
A lot of the chips goes into western companies products that china makes for them
Pengamat barat tidak akan sama sekali memahami Tiongkok jika mereka tidak mengerti dasar dari sifat , filosofi , budaya , sejarah panjang , ajaran yang berakar dari sifat dasar baik hubungan antara keluarga dan pimpinan. Ini inti sari untuk memahami kebijaksanaan Tiongkok..
Mereka telah di sjarkan lebih dari 5000 tahun lalu oleh sejarah dan nenek moyang mereka.
maaf,diluar topik.
apakah para cendikiawan INDONESIA tidak tercoreng mukanya berkali kali. 271 trilliun. cukup untuk menjadi orang terkaya se korea selatan no.1
para cendikiawan terus bicara dan bicara tentang masalah yg bs selesai dlm 1 bulan JIKA IDN TANPA KORUPSI, KALAU MALING KORUPTOR DIHUKUM MATI
stop that Chris Miller crap!
sangat jelas org ini ngomongnya trllu membela kpentingan pemerintahan amerika, dan omingannya trkadang tdk nyambung, saya meragukan kemampuan analisanya,😂
Tex i
Di kasih bhsa indonesia teks coach,biar orang yg bodoh seperti saya sedikit bisa memehami apa artinya dan kemana arahnya❤
well, i don't think he likes the "overcapacity" that much.. ahahahahahahahahahhaha..
If goods are plentiful, they cannot sell at high prices
My two cents after finished viewing this interview: another over-hyped so-called expert by the mainstream medias.
Asia sees it is america as the common factor that has militarised the disputes in asia…not China. Asean better protest publicly against america’s war mongering. Asean needs to start educating americans.
SE Asia has not been peaceful for 2,000 years. Islam never takes an area peacefully, and Islam took a large part of SE Asia. Also, I seem to recall wars in Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia in recent generations.
It’s so easy to blame China for everything !! bla bla bla bla , so tired 😂😂😂
This guest is a mega nerd.
Americans aren’t that competent either in manufacturing rudimentary items like automotive glass as has been proven by Fuyao glass venture in Ohio. Go figure, their chance of success in manufacuring microchips 😂.
Ngapain menginterview pengarang tidak bermutu ini
What waste of time watching this man
This professor seemed to gloss over the complex history between China and Vietnam. The questions asked appeared to have a biased perspective, but I appreciate the attempt at impartiality. I find it interesting that many Southeast Asians who downplay the idea of a threat from China nevertheless prefer to use Western apps over Chinese ones, which speaks volumes in itself. 🤑
Edit: ah from Indonesia, it all makes sense. China state media has a hold in that country.
It's a waste of time listening to this guy talking bullshit. He doesn't seem to know how significantly improved China's technology of semiconductor development in recent years.
Be grateful that “experts” like these are the ones advising American Congress. hence Raimondo got a nice Hauwei surprise.
@@user-ok6re8gv1q ， He could be the lost blood kin of Gordon Chang.